FORKNI-L

FORKNI-L Digest - 7 Jun 2002 to 8 Jun 2002 (#2002-170)

Sat, 8 Jun 2002

There are 5 messages totalling 212 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. It's 12:28 a.m.... (2)
  2. Nick's Crusade?
  3. A Deal that might have been (was Re: Nick's Crusade?)
  4. Are you compatible?

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Date:    Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:31:38 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: It's 12:28 a.m....

--- Kelly C Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......> wrote:
> ... do you know where *YOUR* vampire is?
>

He is somewhere in this world, fighting to bring peace
and friendship to humans and vampires alike. Last time I
heard, he was accused of terrorism by the American
government. I pray for him every night at this hour.

LaCountess

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LaCountess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
Visit my website at http://www.lacountess.com/Fkmain.html

"Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!"
--Homer Simpson

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Date:    Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:02:18 -0700
From:    JUNE JACKSON <twofun4u@m.......>
Subject: Re: It's 12:28 a.m....

Last time I saw him. He was sealed in a vault to contemplate his sins.

JJ

----- Original Message -----
From: Sunny LaCountess
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:36 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: It's 12:28 a.m....

--- Kelly C Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......> wrote:
> ... do you know where *YOUR* vampire is?
>

He is somewhere in this world, fighting to bring peace
and friendship to humans and vampires alike. Last time I
heard, he was accused of terrorism by the American
government. I pray for him every night at this hour.

LaCountess

=====
LaCountess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
Visit my website at http://www.lacountess.com/Fkmain.html

"Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!"
                     --Homer Simpson

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Date:    Sat, 8 Jun 2002 02:34:54 -0600
From:    Cousin Mary <anteros@j.......>
Subject: Nick's Crusade?

Heya Gang!

        I was playing with search engines, put in 1228 and guess what I
got?

Medieval Sourcebook: Philip de Novare: Les Gestes des Ciprois, The
Crusade of Frederick II, 1228-29, (a rather sorry tale that would leave
any knight disillusioned)

>>>>

After the failure of the Fifth crusade in 1221, hope for Christian
success in the East was centered upon Frederick II, the new Holy Roman
Emperor. This was ironic since Frederick was, in religious terms, closer
to his Muslim enemies than to orthodox Christianity. He was far from
pious and seemed to have an odd understanding of the crusade. He had
vowed to go Crusade as early as 1215, but the Crusader's vow for him
seems to have been principally a method his precarious hold upon Germany
and Sicily papal protection which was extended to Crusaders. Frederick's
concern was primarily to consolidate his own position as Emperor. To this
end, he postponed the fulfillment of his Crusading vow time and time
again. When finally pressed Pope Honorius III in 1225, Frederick solemnly
promised to depart for the East within two years. Meanwhile, he prepared
to use his Crusade to extend his Empire into the East. In 1225 he married
Yolanda, the young heiress of the Latin Kingdom. Shortly thereafter,
Frederick claimed the title of the Latin King for himself. After seducing
one of Yolanda's cousins, Frederick banished his fourteen-year-old bride
to the harem which he kept at Palermo, where she bore the Emperor a son,
Conrad, in 1228. Yolanda died less than week later, but formally the
title to the Latin Kingdom had already passed to her infant son, and
Frederick was forced to be content with the position of regent for his
son ­ if, according to the customs of the Kingdom, the Latin barons could
be persuaded to accept his regency.
A Crusading army, meanwhile, was raised and on September 8, 1227 the
Emperor and his army embarked for East, just before the expiration of the
time limit set by the Pope. Almost immediately after the fleet set sail,
Frederick fell ill. His physician advised him in strong terms that he
must return to Sicily to recover before attempting to make the arduous
voyage to Palestine. Frederick forthwith landed to recuperate.
In view of Frederick's repeated postponements of the Crusade during the
past twelve years, it is not surprising that Pope Gregory IX took this
situation to be another attempt to delay the Crusade. In anger, the
Pontiff solemnly excommunicated Frederick. The Emperor replied with a
manifesto in which be attacked the pretensions of the Papacy and then
proceeded, once he had recovered his health, with his preparations for
the expedition. On June 28, 1228 Frederick sailed once again for the
East.
>>>>>
Now, if Nick had somehow ended up in that first attempted 1227 trip, only
to have it called off and find out all about Fredrick before seeing him
excommunicated... well, that might just leave him drinking in a tavern
half way home in 1228.  Well, anyway, the years would be right  :)
Here's the link for those interested
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1228frederick2.html

mary
anteros@j.......
http://www.geocities.com/cousin_mary1228/

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Date:    Sat, 8 Jun 2002 06:58:37 -0700
From:    "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: A Deal that might have been (was Re: Nick's Crusade?)

Hi Everyone:

Thanks Mary for sharing a great source.  I use it
all the time in my instructional sessions.  (Paul
Halsall's site is great for flashback material
for most of world history and is still
growing...<g>)

As for Nick's recruitment, it was a possibility
as the timeframe fits with the events in Queen of
Harps.

In addition to the details posted by Mary,
there's also the small matter of the deal between
Frederick and the Ayyubids (Egyptian Muslim
ruling house) concerning Jerusalem.  When news
got back to the West, everyone was so annoyed
with Frederick for "bargaining" with the enemy
that the deal was called off.  If it had gone
through, it would have supposedly stopped further
crusades (ha!  yeah right...) in exchange for
Christian control of Jerusalem.

Coincidentally, my next story has a flashback
sequence from Acre in 1291.  Nick gets seriously
depressed needless to say.

Thanks everyone.  Again, thanks to Mary for
sharing.

Sincerely,

David

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Date:    Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:56:19 -0700
From:    Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: Are you compatible?

Hey all --

Here's a new, little toy to play with:

  http://www.ScreedWasHere.com/screed/fk-compatible.html

Find out how compatible you are with each of the FK characters!

Have fun....  *vbwg*


Bonnie
Cousinly-Receptionist-In-Training (still)
callalily@l.......
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