FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 31 May 2002 to 1 Jun 2002 (#2002-163)
Sat, 1 Jun 2002
There are 14 messages totalling 662 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June (3)
2. :Washington DC-area Fanfiction Writers and friends get-together (long)
3. Queen of Harps - Nick's haircut
4. queen of Harps historical problems (4)
5. Vampires and total recall (3)
6. Author (2)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:41:20 -0500
From: Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
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From: Cheryl Hoffman[SMTP:dayabaygal@y.......]
Sent: Friday, 31 May, 2002 1:19 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: [FORKNI-L] FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
Well, here it is June already, summer's starting, and here's a
full month of things to watch - something by all the main
cast, and lots of other goodies.
Picks of the Month:
Forever Knight SciFi - M-F at 11am Eastern
Cube SciFi 24th -- lots of FK alumni &
interesting movie
both Ger's movies
Nero Wolfe Mysteries -- lots of FK Alumni in this show
As always, please check your local listings for exact dates & times,
I have been known to make typos (and so have the sources I've pulled
from)
NIGEL BENNETT (LaCroix)
All I Wanna Do (Strike!) - (Harvey Sawyer) Encore 19,23,27
The Crossing (Maj.Gen. Gates) A&E 27
Murder at 1600 (Burton Cash-Secret Service) TBS 3,4,28,29
Narrow Margin (Jack Wooton) TBS 5,29
GERAINT WYN DAVIES (Nick Knight)
Dancing in the Dark (Dr. Lambert) LifetimeM 20,21
Other Women's Children (Matt Stewart) LifetimeM 11,12
JOHN KAPELOS (Schanke)
The Boost (Joel) Showtime 6,14
Class WE 1
The Craft (Nancy's Father) MMax 5,20
Deep Red (Det. Mark Waters) SciFi 18
Defenseless (Jack Hammer) TNT 7
For the Love of Aaron (Dr. Teplitsky) LifetimeM 5,6
Highway Heartbreaker (Det. Baker) Lifetime 8
Nothing in Common Family 1
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
"Lucky Leon" TNT 4
The Sports Pages --various eps Show3 5,6,8,9,16,21,22,25
DEBORAH DUCHENE (Janette Ducharme)
The Broken Chord (Allison Chapman) LifetimeM 12,13
GARY FARMER (Capt Stonetree)
Blown Away (Anderson) USA 1
NATSUKO OHAMA (Capt Cohen)
Speed (Mrs. Kamino - woman on bus) Fox 30
BLU MANKUMA (Capt Reese)
Family of Cops Court 16
For the Love of Aaron (Mark Perkins) LifetimeM 5,6
Mermaid (Caretaker) Showtime2 1,5,11,20
BEN BASS (Javier Vachon)
The 6th Day (Bodyguard) Showtime 1,9,22,28,29
KRISTIN LEHMAN (Urs)
Alaska - (Florence) Showtime 1,2,10,21,26,30
Showtime2 6,9,12,13,17,18,22,25
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN (Andre - Fallen Idol)
All I Wanna Do (Strike!) - (Tinka's Date) Encore 19,23,27
The Virgin Suicides (Jake Conley) TNC 1,4,7,9,23,28
NICOLE DeBOER (Jeannie - Dark Knight)
Counterfeit Contessa (Helena Everett) WE 1
Cube (Leaven) SciFi 24
Family of Cops III (Jackie Fein) Court 16
JFK: Reckless Youth (Olive Cawley) True 3,8,14,18,26,27
My Date w/the President's Daughter Disney 7
MARIA DEL MAR (Magda - For I Have Sinned)
Price of Glory Encore 3,9,14,22,26
COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
Critical Care (Wilson) Oxygen 3
Night Sins (Deacon Fletcher) TNT 29
Striking Poses (Linus) Lifetime 10
VON FLORES (Tran - Can't Run Can't Hide)
Blood on Her Hands (Mike Lee) Lifetime 19
Car 54, Where are You? (Mr. Kim) Flix 4,15,20,23,24,26
GEORDIE JOHNSON (Jerry - My Boyfriend is a Vampire)
A Change of Place (Jacques) WE 23
KARI MATCHETT (Alyssa - Dead of Night)
Family of Cops II (Marina) Court 16
Nero Wolfe Mystery (various) A&E Sunday Nites
CLAIRE RANKIN (Fleur - Be My Valentine)
Brother's Promise: Dan Jansen Story (Robin
Jansen) True 3,13,18,19,22,26
Two if By Sea (Reporter ) MMax 14,22
JULIAN RICHINGS (Dr. Paul Dana - A More Permanent Hell)
Cube (Alderson) SciFi 24
SANDI ROSS (Grace Balthazar, Nat's assistant)
Family of Cops (Judge Williams) Court 16
Ms. Scrooge (Bank Teller) Max 24
On Hostile Ground (Voodoo Lady) TBS 7
Two if By Sea (Conductor) MMax 14,22
Valentine's Day (Lena) MMax 1,10
ANDREA ROTH (Lucy Sylvaine - Faithful Followers)
A Change of Place WE 23
CEDRIC SMITH (Liam O'Neal - Bad Blood)
JFK: Reckless Youth (Professor Hopper ) True 3,8,14,18,26,27
RICK SPRINGFIELD (Nick Knight - original pilot)
A Change of Place WE 23
AMANDA TAPPING (Dr. Naomi Ross -Near Death)
Stargate SG-1 check local listings on Showtime, Fox & SciFi
MAURICE DEAN WINT (Frank - Francesca)
Cube (Quintin) SciFi 24
OTHER FUN STUFF:
Bram Stoker's Dracula TNT 30
Doctor Who - the Movie SciFi 30
The Last Days of Pompeii TCM 15,16
(1913 Historical Drama - Silent Movie)
The Little Vampire Encore 1,5,6,10,28
The Messenger: Joan of Arc Bravo 25
Shadow of the Vampire Max 20
Trials of Oscar Wilde Showtime 25
Show-2 3,7,8,11,12,26,29
Vampire in Brooklyn HBO-2 21,30
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, G4, Bridging
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y....... Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, Val,
NBN, G4, Bridging, Indecency,
"My, my.. we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y....... Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:49:22 -0500
From: Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
And those of us in central Indiana, WTTV (Ch 4) is airing The Arrow at noon
tomorrow with Nigel and probably some other FK episode alum that I don't
remember off hand.
Lindy :)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:16:56 -0700
From: muselaw <muselaw@e.......>
Subject: :Washington DC-area Fanfiction Writers and friends get-together (long)
(Posted with McLisa's kind permission)
Hi all. I belong to a great group called DC Webwomen, for women in the
Washington DC metro area who work in various aspects of the online information
technology industry (it has a business 'help-me-code-this' side and a
networking/fun side). I have permission to invite listmembers to an informal
get-together about Fanfiction in DC this coming Wednesday (details below). It's
free, and all the sponsor asks is that people who intend to come register by the
means provided in advance so she will know how many to expect. I might not be
able to attend because of rehearsals, but if I do I'll look for fellow FK
fans--you're the best!
Cheers,
Laila HaNassi
"Fan Fiction - Amateur Hour on the Web"
Wednesday, June 12, 2002
6:30 - 7:00: networking
7:00 - 8:00: conversation
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OC? Angst? Mary Sue?
Have a clue what I'm talking about?
Then you know what fan fiction is. Maybe you're a writer yourself.
Fan fiction is when people who like a certain show, book, movie, (whatever)
use those characters, settings, elements (etc.) as a springboard from which
to write stories, parodies, pass-the-pens. You might have seen it at cons
(conventions like Star Trek). In the past (Dark Ages), these were the
productions of ditto machines.
Now the Internet has caused fan fiction to explode: websites, email groups,
face-to-face conferences.
Even if you don't write fan fiction yourself (aka you're a lurker), come to
Teaism on June 12, 2002, get something to eat from their fabulous menu, and
join Karen and Katherine downstairs, to talk about all things fan fic:
* fan fiction defined
* its evolution
* the problem of crossovers
* how the Internet facilitates it
* the fanfic, email, and community
* etc.
Warning: No PowerPoints will be harmed during this conversation.
CONVERSATION LEADERS
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:15:12 EDT
From: Jean Graham <JeanG477@a.......>
Subject: Queen of Harps - Nick's haircut
Portia Eins <portia1@m.......> said:
>Oh yes! "sigh" He also came across as somehow "young and innocent" (how
>strange) in the flashbacks in "Curiouser and Cursiouser," IMO. I love that
>haircut on him with the bangs and the ruffly curls.
I especially like the fact that in the present-day QOH story line, Nick's
hair can't decide whether to be falling down over his forehead (a la the
flashback), or combed back.
Take a close look at the scene where Nick and Schanke are "grilling" Johanna
at the Precinct. Observe Nick's nice, curly, falling-over-the-forehead hair.
Now freeze-frame the very next scene in which Nick and Schanke walk out of
the interrogation room and Schanke says, "You're going to say she didn't do
it!" Observe Nick's hair again. Was there a hairdresser we couldn't see
hiding in there somewhere???? Or is Nick just *real* quick with his comb?
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:08:03 -0400
From: Marg <mytoronto@r.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
Cheryl Hoffman wrote:
> COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
You should also note that Colm Feore is currently appearing live at the
Stratford Festival of Canada, playing Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady. The
play opened officially last Tuesday to rave reviews. He will be replaced
in that role by Geraint Wyn Davies on July 14. Dates and times of
performances are available at www.stratfordfestival.ca
--
Marg <mytoronto@r.......>
In Toronto, the City of the Knight
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 10:10:43 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: queen of Harps historical problems
Fascinating. It almost makes me wish I had seen the plot as it was
originally invisioned or at the least read the original draft version. I
never noticed the presence of GWD brother. I'll have to watch my tape
again.
All quibbles aside this episode has always been one of my favourites. the
only problem I ever had with it was wondering why after the dealer was
killed no one thought to mention to the police that Nick's interest in the
harp and the fact that he had been bidding on it in ernest. I know
Schanke thought Nick's bid was a misunderstanding but when the harp
went missing you would think the police would have asked questions about
the bidding at the auction. Since Nick was the one who first upped
the bid surely someone would have mentioned this fact to the police.
I think the reason Nick didn't react to the dealers death was that he was so
wrapped up in his memories of the past that he couldn't really react to
the dealer's murder.
Which brings me to the next question. When do you suppose Nick learned
Lord Delabarre had been the one responsible for killing Gwyenth?
Could Nick the vampire be responsible for the original Lord Delabarre's
dying at age 55?
Debbie
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 11:49:42 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: queen of Harps historical problems
> Debbie Clarke wrote:
>
> Which brings me to the next question. When do you suppose Nick learned
> Lord Delabarre had been the one responsible for killing Gwyenth?
> Could Nick the vampire be responsible for the original Lord Delabarre's
> dying at age 55?
Interesting concept, but aside from the fact aht Nick would still have been
a very, very young vampire...
Imagine him trying to persuade Janette, much less LaCroix to take a trip to
Wales...<gr>
Mary
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 11:31:49 -0500
From: Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: queen of Harps historical problems
Debbie wrote:
> > Which brings me to the next question. When do you suppose Nick learned
> > Lord Delabarre had been the one responsible for killing Gwyenth?
> > Could Nick the vampire be responsible for the original Lord Delabarre's
> > dying at age 55?
Then, Mary wrote:
> Interesting concept, but aside from the fact aht Nick would still have been
> a very, very young vampire...
> Imagine him trying to persuade Janette, much less LaCroix to take a trip to
> Wales...<gr>
Yes, but what if Delabarre *happened* to be in France, and Nick *happened*
to run into him one night... fair enough, that's quite a string of
coincidences, but still, I smell a fanfic. :)
Eve.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 10:22:19 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Vampires and total recall
Was it ever mentioned in FOREVER KNIGHT canon that
vampires have perfect memories (total
recall/photographic memory)? I've read a lot of fan
fic using this concept. Are the authors getting it
from general vampire lore or are they assuming the
flashbacks in the series mean vampires have total
recall? I seem to remember a few episodes where Nick
couldn't remember things clearly (and I don't mean
"Night in Question", I'm not counting that episode).
Of course, not having a perfect memory myself, I can't
say what episodes they were. Any ideas?
Knight Ranger
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Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
"We Are The Lemmings And We're Proud!"
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 14:07:28 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires and total recall
> Knight Ranger wrote:
> Was it ever mentioned in FOREVER KNIGHT canon that
> vampires have perfect memories (total
> recall/photographic memory)?
Nope, it's another one of those fun fanfic concepts.
One piece of canon that argues against it is the fact that the knowledge and
memories from drinking someone's blood fade away. (Nick tells Francesca "it
will be gone in two hours!" when she talks about the knowledge he will get
from the musician's blood.)
However, some really fantastic fiction has been written that uses the idea
that the vampire records every moment with crystal clarity, including
Dorothy Elggren's "Somehow" (sequel to the equally wonderful "Somewhere")
which you can find on www.fkfanfic.com.
Speaking of memory, with all that extra time on their hands, I wonder if any
of the FK vamps have spent much time memorizing poetry, trivia, statistics
or what have you....
For starters, I think Nick knows all of John Donne's poems by heart....
Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 14:22:26 EDT
From: BKBVA@a.......
Subject: Re: queen of Harps historical problems
dittany121@h....... writes:
> you would think the police would have asked questions about
> the bidding at the auction. Since Nick was the one who first upped
> the bid surely someone would have mentioned this fact to the police.
You would think....<g>. Assuming they did, obviously Nick would be using
another name to bid on it, and all anyone would be able to give the police
was a physical description. Since it was daylight, Nick wasn't on the scene,
so there wouldn't be anyone to say, "hey, that's the bidder!"
> When do you suppose Nick learned Lord Delabarre had been the one
> responsible for killing Gwyenth? Could Nick the vampire be responsible
> for the original Lord Delabarre's dying at age 55?
Why I like the concept, I don't find any reason to go for it. There's no
reason Nick would have ever known that Lord Delabarre was Gwyneth's killer,
although current events would likely have him come to that conclusion now.
Delabarre as the killer is disclosed to us as the viewers, but not as the
result of one of Nick's flashbacks. He was long gone from Wales before
Delabarre would have taken over the land and there's nothing in series canon
to indicate that Nick was ever in the area again.
Beth
bkbva@a.......
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 11:41:31 -0700
From: Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires and total recall
Knight Ranger asked:
>Was it ever mentioned in FOREVER KNIGHT canon that
>vampires have perfect memories (total
>recall/photographic memory)?
I'd say it was more canon that the vamps *don't* have perfect memory. Cuz one
of the comments Nick makes in Fallen Idol is that Fleur *didn't* want to become
one. (Or something to the effect, can't remember <G> the exact words.) WHich is
not what we saw happen, nor what LC says happens.
It could be that the flashbacks we see are events significant enough that the
vamps would have remembered them anyway regardless. Or they might not have
remembered them until current events trigger the FB. Or Nick, Janette and LC
could have naturally excellent memories and/or learned memory-strengthening
techniques over the centuries. Or some combination of the three.
Hmmm, fun fanfic idea. Dueling flashbacks. {hums theme to a certain banjo piece}
Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky luckyliz@a.......
http://www.luckyliz.crosswinds.net/ForeverKnight/
Who is Will? And why is everyone firing at him?
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:19:02 -0700
From: Megan Hull <mistryder@h.......>
Subject: Author
I've seen mentioned on the list a favorite author of historical fiction set
in Roman times. Who was it again?
-Megan
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:38:43 EDT
From: Merrie Thomas <Dragoness987@a.......>
Subject: Re: Author
Well, I'm fairly new to the posting, so I may not know the exact person you
may be thinking of, but IMO, author Alice Borchardt is a great sci-fi, Roman
times author.
Cousin Merrie
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