FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 8 Apr 2002 to 9 Apr 2002 - Special issue (#2002-106)
Tue, 9 Apr 2002
There are 40 messages totalling 1014 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Sci-fi's Broadcast- Lines
2. DVD IDEA
3. Replacement for Janette, etc. (4)
4. Why w'ere not going to Yahoo
5. ReTV execs
6. Why w'ere not going to Yahoo (slightly OT)
7. How do I access the FTP site? (7)
8. Question (2)
9. Funny scenes
10. need an e-mail addy - Did this!
11. Nick Knight dvd update (5)
12. KtK auction (2)
13. FORKNI-L Digest - 6 Apr 2002 to 7 Apr 2002 (#2002-104) (2)
14. Carpe Noctem (4)
15. Schanke on X-Files!
16. Favorite T.V. Shows <was Re: Buffy and FK>
17. How I found FK (2)
18. Full Season of Tapes available (2)
19. False Witness
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:04:50 -0500
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Sci-fi's Broadcast- Lines
Hi,
I noticed in another recording I made today ("Dying to Know You") that there
were some diagonal lines going through it for a few minutes, close to before
a commercial break (then they went away). "Fever" had these as well,
briefly. Was it just my satellite feed or is something strange going on with
Sci-fi's broadcast?? It doesn't make sense to me that it would be my dish,
since this hasn't occurred before. I normally see a clear picture, no lines.
Anyone else notice this?
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:12:31 -0400
From: Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: DVD IDEA
Disclaimer: This is not an advertisement!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/546274/ref=mrd_dh_3_h/102-7637328-2160135
I found the above by accident, and I didn't see FK on their list. This got me
to thinking.
How can we get FK DVD Season 1, 2, and 3 on this list? And if we did get FK on
this list, would that make it any more likely to be put on DVD? I think that
if it were on the list we might have a better chance.
What do the folks here think?
Brian
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:24:38 -0400
From: Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Replacement for Janette, etc.
>\Did they
>think the viewer's brains would shut down if they gave
>them a thicker, more involving plot and characters that
>were different from the rest of the shows?
Yes, they do..This gets slightly off FK, but hopefully you will all see the
relevaence to FK in it...
Talking in the past with JMS of Babylon 5, from before he had the show (we
were in a small elite e mail group on GEnie many years ago when it was known
as THAT WHICH CANNOT BE NAMED) to all the time the show was in production
and he was a bit more rounded on the web, he explained how a lot of this TV
stuff works, about all the executive problems, about the control veiwing
groups/... I know we still have all these neat messages archived SOMEWHERE
on our evil computers!
Basically they want all shows to conform and be of interest to Joe Plumber
in Albequerque and Suzy Welfare girl... Why they are marketing to non income
groups (well not Joe plumber as they do good but why Suzy welfare??) I
havent figured out yet.
Sci fi throws them for loops. The average watcher tends to be more
affluent, more intelligent, and more demanding for thought, and more
marketable...
But they cant break their mold.. and they foster this with Neilsons (who
only poll 5-6000 people a year) and the focus groups, rather then realistic
means of tracking who is actually watching the show.
In one of Babylon 5's test groups (called focus groups) to see how people
"liked" the show, JMS said he almost leapt through the glass when a middle
aged guy said in the interview that THIS wasnt real science fiction... Power
Rangers was real science fiction...
I have so many stories about the literal STUPIDITY of many TV exucatives its
not funny.
But lets say if even HALF of the JMS stories about getting Babylong 5 to TV
is true, Im surprised FK made it at all the way it was, and Im not surprised
we ended up with season three and the rush to get rid of thought.
Heck, just this past year with Andromdea, Kevin Sorbo who took over the
show, stated that he wanted to make the show "more Accesible to viewers",
and when questioned he felt that the scripts were too complicated and that
people couldnt handle arcs (which he got rid of from the story), or
characters that required in depth secrets or personas...And basically said
that people needed show reset buttons, that they werent smart enough to
remember form one week to the next...
This seems to be a general consensus unfortuantley....and shows up clearly
not only in Forever Knight and the hubdoo about that, and other shows of the
Sci Fi venue. Many shows that have depth are few and far between and have
taken a lot of fighting to get on.
We are NOT stupid. We like to think. We CAN remember things from day to
day. We arent all teen aged hormoned boys who needs T&A to be able to
watcha show (although the thought of Nick..... Family list remember family
list...)
We want real advertisers not adult phone lists and Madame Cleo. We arent
moronic geeks who live in their parents cellars, living on compuadult sites,
and only come out to eat bologna wearing our Mr. Spock ears (apologies to
any fans here who do...)
End of rant...
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:23:25 EDT
From: Lynne Ackerman <Lynnea212@a.......>
Subject: Re: Why w'ere not going to Yahoo
Thank you!! I don't completely trust Yahoo to begin with. And I also agree
with all of Ali's points.
PSU has been very good to the FK lists, and as the saying goes, 'if it ain't
broke, don't fix it'!
Maybe it's time for another round of appreciation (M&M's or Smarties) for the
guy at PSU?
A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"). Via e-mail: lynnea212@a.......
** Help support Forever Knight. Ask me how. **
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:02:50 -0500
From: Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Replacement for Janette, etc.
<<I guess the real question is,
did USA think FK, in its unique, complex and curiously
inventive format was too much for its audience? Did they
think the viewer's brains would shut down if they gave
them a thicker, more involving plot and characters that
were different from the rest of the shows?>>
It wouldn't surprise me a bit. Any number of shows have suffered the same
fate for much the same reason. "Star Trek" was considered by studio execs
to be "too cerebral," and, as we can see from the discussions that go on
around here, FK is certainly thought provoking material.
I believe another part of the problem is that, not only execs, but a large
portion of people involved in the entertainment industry seem to simply
refuse to take any show/film involving science fiction, horror or fantasy
seriously. How many TV shows or movies of that genre do you see winning
awards for anything other than special effects or makeup? As far as I know
(and I'm sure someone out there will correct me if I'm wrong <G>), the only
award won for FK was Mr. Bennett's Gemini for his portrayal of LaCroix.
Guess that goes to show that the Canadian entertainment community is either
more tolerant of the genre or just plain has better taste than their
American counterpart. <G>
Of course, WE can argue that FK wasn't simply a "vampire show," but drama.
Unfortunately, it had that taste of the supernatural which made it one of
the bastard children of TV-Land...tolerated as long as the ratings were up
and the advertisers bought airtime, but dumped the second either showed a
sign of flagging. Said dumping probably involved a great rolling of eyes
and heaving of sighs amongst the execs who, having killed the show with
their own lack of insight, said, "See, I told you a series about a vampire
cop would never cut it out there. People want REAL stuff--like sitcoms!"
Christy
cstillma@u.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:22:45 EDT
From: Rhynnah Bayne <BaybeBansheesMom@a.......>
Subject: ReTV execs
In a message dated 4/8/2002 5:59:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cstillma@u....... writes:
> People want REAL stuff--like sitcoms!"
ROTFLMAO!!
Tough solutions to real life problems, without loose ends, in 30 minutes! Man
I wish my life was as tidy.
<sigh> I envy all of you being able to see the show again. I don't have
tapes, I don't have cable or satellite... I NEED some fanfic. Anyone have any
good Valentine stuff?
The Banshee's mom
Kat
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:41:54 -0700
From: "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: Re: Why w'ere not going to Yahoo (slightly OT)
Hi Everyone:
>
> PSU has been very good to the FK lists, and as
> the saying goes, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'!
Hmmm...I guess I'm in the minority here, but I
have problems sending messages to the fic list.
From time to time, the PSU server inserts extra
returns into my text, sometimes driving me over
the 300 lines per part limit and giving me the
dreaded error message/bounced post. Even when I
have reformatted my messages, this still happens.
Maybe it's just me, but the server seems really
finicky....
Don't get me wrong. I think Don's going a great
job keeping the proverbial garden in order. I
just wish that the server wouldn't try to
reformat my messages. <sigh>
And, on the Yahoo Groups thing, you can turn that
stuff off. They don't advertise it very well,
but you can do so. If there's a (re: free) place
to host my two groups other than Yahoo, I would
like to know about it. (Offlist please...) I like
using Yahoo personally, but that's my opinion
which in combination with about $5 will buy you a
cup of coffee. :)
Oh well, that's all for now. Back to writing my
next piece....
Thanks for listening.
Sincerely,
David
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:11:58 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
I have no idea what they are doing to this server. Anyone that has an FTP site
on this server is having problems and they must be playing around because
earlier I could get to it in IE but not Netscape. At home, I can get to it in
Netscape but not IE.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:17:45 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
OK. Now I can see the directory listing, but can't get into the directories.
Oh, well.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:25:01 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Question
As I was watching Dying to Know You this morning (it's so *good* to be able
to say that, once again) I noticed that one of the thugs who returned
Hedge's daughter looked an awful lot like Nicholas Gray. I looked at the
credits , but didn't see his name listed. Does anyone know if it was him?
Barb
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:39:04 -0700
From: Megan Hull <mistryder@h.......>
Subject: Re: Funny scenes
The one that always kills me laughing is the last scene in Dark Knight II
where Nick and Natalie are trying to convince Schanke that the blood
'evaporated'.
"He's not going to buy it."
"He'll buy it."
-Megan
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:12:55 +0200
From: Cloudrider Siri <cloudrider@a.......>
Subject: Re: need an e-mail addy - Did this!
Ooops... I'm here, but two of my providers have disappeared with
my former addies, sorry. This one should keep working for awhile,
hopefully!
----- Original Message -----
From: Tracey Rayner <trayner@p.......>
> I'm trying to contact Cloudrider, the email address I have is bouncing. Can
> anyone help?
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:13:58 -0700
From: Sherri C <sherric@e.......>
Subject: Nick Knight dvd update
In case anyone is wondering about the official release of Nick Knight on
Anchor Bay dvd... I got this response from the annual email I send them:
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Actually we are still planning it for late 2003 at this point. It will
come out!
-
Michael R. Felsher
Webmaster
Anchor Bay Entertainment
> I was wondering if the Nick Knight dvd has fallen thru... It
> has been a year since I last asked... (I'm being patient...)
>
Sherri C
sherric@e.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:29:27 -0400
From: janette 1228 <janette1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: KtK auction
Why not just simplify it and have proxy bidding on the items? That way
people can tell KtK what they wanna spend and automatically have their bids
raised when more bids come in.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:42:03 -0400
From: janette 1228 <janette1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 6 Apr 2002 to 7 Apr 2002 (#2002-104)
I was at that mediafans.com site and was wondering what does Carpe Noctem
mean? i only know a couple latin phrases and haven't a clue what noctem
means, any thoughts? I know this is off topic but didn't know who else to
ask that might know. Sorry.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:50:04 -0500
From: Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Carpe Noctem
> I was at that mediafans.com site and was wondering what does Carpe Noctem
> mean?
Doesn't it mean "Seize the Night" or "Seize the Darkness"?
Eve.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:53:19 -0500
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 6 Apr 2002 to 7 Apr 2002 (#2002-104)
It means Sieze the Night. It's a take off on Carpe Diem which means Seize
the Day.
Marci C
cstar@a.......
At 09:42 PM 4/8/2002 -0400, janette 1228 wrote:
>I was at that mediafans.com site and was wondering what does Carpe Noctem
>mean?
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:20:58 +0930
From: jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
I am having trouble accessing it also,
it tells me I need permission to access,
also that the number of clients is now 60 ,
that's up from 30 yesterday lol
Dot
Dark Knightie and UFer
jennii35@i.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:26:42 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Schanke on X-Files!
In a message dated 4/8/2002 2:40:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jfozzard@h....... writes:
<<
I have to say, John Kapelos is a wonderful actor! I don't think I've ever
seen him and thought, "That was just not believable." >>
I agree with you as to John's acting. He's great. But if you ever meet him
in person, you'll look at him differently. It's hard to keep a straight face
when he's seriously acting. He's such a cut up in real life.
KnightWitch;-]=
CaddyWhacker [first and foremost], Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html
"It's the little things in life you treasure" Fred Kwan, Galaxy Quest
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:33:03 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick Knight dvd update
In a message dated 4/8/2002 9:15:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sherric@e....... writes:
<< In case anyone is wondering about the official release of Nick Knight on
Anchor Bay dvd... I got this response from the annual email I send them:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually we are still planning it for late 2003 at this point. It will
come out!
>>
Are you talking about the Nick Knight with Rick Springfield [which some of us
already perchased on DVD from Odd Lots store] or the TV series?
KnightWitch ;-]=
CaddyWhacker [first and foremost], Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html
"It's the little things in life you treasure" Fred Kwan, Galaxy Quest
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:37:34 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: KtK auction
In a message dated 4/8/2002 9:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
janette1228@h....... writes:
<< Why not just simplify it and have proxy bidding on the items? That way
people can tell KtK what they wanna spend and automatically have their bids
raised when more bids come in.
>>
In defense of KtK:
It's a nice idea but try to remember the increase amount of work and burden
it puts on the people who are running the auction. They put in a lot of
their personal time and I personally would hate to burden them some more.
Proxy updating would take a lot more of their time.
Thanks Susan and gang for all wonderful joband time you spend working on the
auction.
KnightWitch ;-]=
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:35:21 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Favorite T.V. Shows <was Re: Buffy and FK>
>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:51:56 EST
>From: Libratsie@a.......
>
>Of course I don't expect everyone to like BtVS, nor do I expect everyone to
>like FK. They are too very different shows but are both favorites of mine,
>though I fully expect others to have other favorite shows.
One of my favorite shows, other than FK, is Everybody Loves Raymond. It's
got great writing and wonderful visual humor. I also love the character of
Marie, another very controlling and possessive, yet very loving, parent.
Come to think of it, Everybody Loves Raymond is sort of the comedy version
of FK!
Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:05:01 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Question
Barbara Vainio wrote:
> to say that, once again) I noticed that one of the thugs who returned
> Hedge's daughter looked an awful lot like Nicholas Gray. I
> looked at the credits , but didn't see his name listed. Does anyone know
> if it was him?
I just watched my Canadian version of this ep (I really enjoyed it, even the
cheesy flying scene!) and yes, it *is* Nick Gray! A little thinner, a lot less
gray than the Nick Gray I've met at LCA, but yep, it's him.
In the credits he's listed as a stunt man. You'll notice he didn't have any
lines, and he got tackled by Flying Nick at the end.
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:04:30 -0700
From: Sherri C <sherric@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight dvd update
>
>Are you talking about the Nick Knight with Rick Springfield [which some of us
>already perchased on DVD from Odd Lots store] or the TV series?
>KnightWitch ;-]=
Nick Knight with Springfield - the authorized US release....
Sherri C
sherric@e.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 23:29:51 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick Knight dvd update
In a message dated 4/8/02 10:08:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
sherric@e....... writes:
<< Nick Knight with Springfield - the authorized US release... >>
But it is out on DVD. I can't speak up for the quality as I haven't watched
it yet, but I found mine in a Big Lots store and they've been spotted (and
purchased) from "bargain bins" in Walmart.
Libs
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:47:28 -0700
From: Helena Handbag <momra1@l.......>
Subject: Re: Carpe Noctem
janette 1228 wrote:
>I was at that mediafans.com site and was wondering
>what does Carpe Noctem mean?
I *think* it means 'sieze the night'
Mom-Ra
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:41:40 +0800
From: Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
I am having trouble accessing it also,
> it tells me I need permission to access,
> also that the number of clients is now 60 ,
> that's up from 30 yesterday lol
Could it be that all these access problems are because so many newcomers to
FK tuned into the SciFi marathon and are flooding the servers because
they're really curious?
Ell
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:22:22 -0700
From: StormBorn <thestormborn@m.......>
Subject: Re: Replacement for Janette, etc.
I don't think *all* TV shows except FK are terrible. LEXX is a wonderful
mindstorm, combining comedy, satire, pathos, myth and sensuality in one wild
ride. China Beach was an awesome show, and on the comedy side, I too am a
fan of Everybody Loves Raymond (you go, Marie! <g>), as well as Frasier and
Just Shoot Me.
Molly/StormBorn
thestormborn@m.......
"It's not fair!" "You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for
comparison is?" -Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 03:34:11 -0400
From: Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Replacement for Janette, etc.
Im sorry I didnt mean to imply all if I did... I have shows I really like
besides FK like SG1, Buffy, Smallville and so on.
Just a majority tend to be, well, lacking... And I like Nigel and all, but I
have to say that I personally did not like LEXX, and personally think it did
not do his acting talents justice in the least. But then again there are
probably shows I like that others dont as well! ;-)
Ah well, too much drift off topic.
>I don't think *all* TV shows except FK are terrible. LEXX is a wonderful
>mindstorm, combining comedy, satire, pathos, myth and sensuality in one wild
>ride. China Beach was an awesome show, and on the comedy side, I too am a
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 06:40:21 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
None of the other FTP sites on this server can be accessed either. There are
probably about 100 different FTP sites on this server and the anonymous user
can't access any of them. Now as I said last night, it seems it is working in
Netscape, ( at least on my PC) but not with IE.
If this is still a problem tonight I will see if I can't copy them to a
directory on my website. The website is just fine.
Elliza Rahim wrote:
> Could it be that all these access problems are because so many newcomers to
> FK tuned into the SciFi marathon and are flooding the servers because
> they're really curious?
>
> Ell
>
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 08:34:51 -0400
From: Gladys Bears <rockiebears@n.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
I have just tried to access to ftp site with Netscape, Internet Explorer and
Opera and it worked fine with all of them.
Gladys
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:17:02 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Carpe Noctem
Yep, it does.
McLisa
mclisa@m.......
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:47:28 -0700 Helena Handbag <momra1@l.......> wrote:
>>what does Carpe Noctem mean?
>I *think* it means 'sieze the night'
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:20:55 EDT
From: DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: How I found FK
I first saw Forever Knight as Nick Knight. I'm a Rick Springfield fan. After
watching the movie I thought it would make a good series and was a little
disappointed when nothing showed up. Then at some point I was flipping
channels and stumbled across the second half of a first seaon episode. Not
sure which one it was. I didn't always remember to watch it, and often when I
did it was halfway through and I kicked myself for missing the first half.
It took me until the third run of Dark Knight to get it on tape. After a
while I remembered to watch it from the start.
I loved it because it had real characters with real lives, problems etc. And
they looked like real people. The stories were good to, as was the acting. I
was drawn to Nick and Natalie from the start because of the chemistry between
them. It's what kept me watching again and again. It wasn't until Schanke
mellowed a little that I really began to like him too.
it was later I learned that it was done on a shoestring budget. I think they
did two eps for every X-Files ep budget. And their third season budget was
even smaller than it was first season.
I wasn't online yet so I didn't know about all of this stuff. I was part of
the first bring back the Knight letter writing campaign back at the end of
first season. I was thrilled to see it back, and even got it at a civilized
time. I helped with the next campaign to save the show. And I think I
helped with the one for third season, having no idea what they'd do to the
show. When third season started, I was perfectly willing to give it a fair
shot, even if I was a little annoyed over the trying to get rid of CD because
"she's too old", which has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
I was willing to watch the new season and see what they had to offer. I
liked Vachon, but never really got that interested in the other characters.
They were too much like all the other characters on tv, and were lacking that
special FK spark.
After Tracy killed her first perp, I started liking her a little better. She
started developing a little more. The locker room scene after she killed that
time was one of my favorite Tracy scenes, the others are Natalie telling her
to take another hit of the oxygen because it seems to be helping (Jane Doe)
and Vachon asking if she needs him to draw her a picture (organ theft ring)
(Let No Man Tear Asunder).
When I first onliine there weren't so many lists or so many factions. I found
the FK message board and the MacGyver message board first. Back then AOL
charged per hour. I found the monthly FK chat, which I attended when I
remembered, or was around then. My very first list was FKFIC as the sheer
volume of Forkni was a little scary. I joined FKFIC and was loving the
stories I read, and then learned it was the middle of War 4. It was a riot.
Everyone had such great imaginations and sense of fun (and playful mischief).
I asked someone what was happening offlist and they told me. I joined in and
had a blast. I was a member of the NNPack back when it was a hand done list.
I remember when the only factions were one per character and the Die Hards
for those that couldn't or wouldn't chose one faction. I guess this makes me
one of the list Elders.
I think that's enough rambling for one post.
Judy
Picture in a picture - one of the best inventions there is!
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:38:29 -0700
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight dvd update
Several copies available on ebay for under $4 (not
incl. shipping)
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=Nick+Knight
-Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:42:24 -0700
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Full Season of Tapes available
You can find anything on ebay...
a full season of tapes is available, claiming
excellent quality.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1529031132
-Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:42:44 -0400
From: Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: How I found FK
I came to FK by sheer serendipity. I caught "Nick Knight" while flipping
through the channels one evening. I also caught "DK" while channel surfing
late, late one night during a summer break from college. Both were caught
mid-show. I can't remember what made me stop flipping that second time (first
time -- "hey, that's the guy from the videos!" "g"). Maybe it was that Ger was
so cute, or the morgue scene looked interesting, or that guy with the sideburns
looked familiar.... "g" Anyway, the more I watched, the stronger became my sense
of "deja vu," until I realized I actually *had* seen that pilot before! "Hey,
this is kinda neat! And how cool to have a blond vampire! And I like that
Schanke guy, and look at the chick's cool hair, and how neat that *she* is the
doctor! And what a CAR!" LOL! I immediately liked the show, and I guess my
stubborn streak was lit by the sheer cussedness I had to display to find the
blasted show. Seemed like it was constantly changing channels and airtimes --
all of them at obscure times (3am??? gimme a break! I DON'T have a VCR!).
Needless to say, it wasn't until Sci Fi started showing the eps that I saw them
consecutively. I am proud to say that there where only a few of them that I
hadn't seen by that time! <smugness> LOL! There are still a few that I have
only seen 2 or so times; "Last Act" for instance.
Portia, so excited to have the show on again, and amazed at herself for the
welling of nostalgia she feels evertime she sees the sun set over Toronto (which
I've never visited!) in the opening credits!
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:01:16 -0700
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: Carpe Noctem
Anyone have any idea who the first one to use "Carpe
Noctem" was?
Was is FK, or another vampire-related group?
I'm *do* know that FK is the origin of "I am what I
am, and I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires!"
(and of course, the famous Welsh translation:
"Rydw i'n pa beth rydw i'n, a dydw i'n credu mae'r
Betty Ford yn derbyn sungwyr gwaed.")
-Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:03:58 -0400
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Full Season of Tapes available
But this is HIGHLY against copyright laws and is *illegal* The Powers That Be
have been very nice about letting us supply each other with tapes for just the
cost of tape and posting, but what is on eBay is *illegal* and against the law.
If things like that are allowed to continue, they could crack down on all
exchanging of tapes, unfortunately.
So please do NOT bid on them! There's plenty of fans willing to supply tapes for
just the cost of tape and postage.
Public Service Announcement over ;-)
Libs
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:53:47 -0400
From: Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: Re: How do I access the FTP site?
I've been able to get to the ftp page without any trouble.
Dont know why or how. i get there from fkfanfic awards link.
JudyL
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:43:15 -0700
From: Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: False Witness
I'm watching this now and just notice something I'd never
head before: in one the flashbacks, LaCroix calls him
"Nick", when talking *to* him, not about him, as in the
scene with Schanke in "Close Call". A truly rare
occurance.
Generally speaking, I don't like this episode, probably
for the same reasons it's likely a very good episode:
Nick's lie. I'm sure it's very important, and I wonder
whether it was the corner-cutting vampire in him, or
the fallible human in him, but I don't like the episode.
I realize this is a purely emotional reaction on my
part. <g>
Laurie of the Isles
Laurie of the Isles
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