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FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Apr 2002 to 5 Apr 2002 - Special issue (#2002-101)

Fri, 5 Apr 2002

There are 33 messages totalling 1061 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Funny scenes (2)
  2. KtK script auction update - final (thanks everyone) (3)
  3. Admin: Sony probably has a mole here
  4. Cutting scenes (2)
  5. Buffy and FK (was Sony moles) (8)
  6. Buffy and FK
  7. FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Apr 2002 to 4 Apr 2002 (#2002-100)
  8. On DVD
  9. "Last Act"
 10. FK Cons (3)
 11. Entertainment value
 12. Fav Ep? (5)
 13. Memories of the Knight
 14. FK videos (2)
 15. memories in flash--Part 1

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:07:02 -0800
From:    "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: Re: Funny scenes

Hi Everyone:

Two scenes that come to mind...(and I might add
rather recently seen on SCIFI)

1.) Dark Knight II:  Seeing Nick stuck in the
trunk (the initial shot of Ger with his eyes
clenched shut, hands over his ears) with the
"Schanke polka" playing.  And then, there is
Schanke's expression when he finds out about the
brakes..... :)

2.)"For I Have Sinned":(2 scenes)  Schanke's
confession and Nick's reaction is good for a few
chuckles (not to mention the fake accent).  After
his confession, Schanke realizes that it was Nick
in the confessional.

Sorry, but seeing those scenes makes me laugh so
hard that I'm in tears....:)

Thanks

David


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:09:52 -0800
From:    Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: KtK script auction update - final (thanks everyone)

> Megan said:
>>WAAAAA!!!! :'(  Why do you always have to end
>auctions on Sundays?  I don't have computer access on
>Sunday and I always get outbid!!

# Me too!  I do not have computer access on Sunday and
Monday, which are my days off from work.

Knight Ranger

=====
e-mail:  KnightRanger1228@y.......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life!  (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light  ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:13:17 -0800
From:    Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: KtK script auction update - final (thanks everyone)

You will never find a time for everyone to agree on.

I don't have a computer at home, so I use the one at
work and Sunday and MONDAY are my days off.

Knight Ranger

--- SField8067@a....... wrote:
> I promise to end any future KtK auctions on a monday
> night, okay? <G>
> SField8067@a.......


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e-mail:  KnightRanger1228@y.......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life!  (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light  ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
"We Are The Lemmings And We're Proud!"
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:21:57 -0500
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: Sony probably has a mole here

Honestly, Buffy hasn't been any good since she left high school.

I will watch the H.S. eps, but I seriously hate the university eps,
and I especially hate what they did to Willow.  How shameless
on their parts.

Brian


----- Original Message -----
From: <Libratsie@a.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Sony probably has a mole here


> In a message dated Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:21:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bwaichu@c....... writes:
>
> > I mean, they did it for Buffy, and that show isn't that great.>>
> Excuse me, that must be in your opinion as I think Buffy is a *wonderful* show
> and is quickly becoming equal to FK as one of my favorites. It is well written
> for the most part, and well acted. True, it is NOT FK, but FK isn't Buffy
> either. I love both series.
>
> SHAMELESS PLUG:
>
> In fact, for those who like both shows, I have a mailing list on yahoogroups
> called "FKSpiked." It is for those 18 years and over ONLY, please, as I allow
> adult postings. Don't join if you aren't 18 yet, please.
>
>
> Libs (always pluggin' something!)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:22:45 -0800
From:    Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Cutting scenes

> My only question now is - are they cutting anything
> on this run? I know FX has chopped the Buffy eps a lot
> in their rerun....

# Yes, they are shaving off a few seconds, escpecially
around the commericals.  The biggest cut I noticed was
in "Dark Knight", after Schanke totalled the Caddy.
The garage guy tries to open the trunk (with Nick
inside), but this time around, that scene was cut.
But, they kept the part about looking for another
Caddy in the junkyard.

Knight Ranger

=====
e-mail:  KnightRanger1228@y.......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life!  (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light  ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
"We Are The Lemmings And We're Proud!"
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:28:53 -0500
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

Brian... What do you mean "what they did to Willow?" That's she's gay. I hope
that is not what you meant. Please explain.

I didn't start watching Buffy until this year, and I really haven't found a
season I don't like.

I think of all the episodes of Buffy vs. FK, FEVER is still my favorite and the
best episode of television I've ever seen. I even did a a few papers on the
episode when I was taking a script writing course. There's a lot of power there.
One of my favorite FK lines is Natalie saying, "Who am I to judge?" concerning
the vampires.

Libs

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:38:25 -0500
From:    Janine Fozzard <jfozzard@h.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK

Hi everyone!

Back from Europe, hehehe. Actually, I had some bad information, that the
list was not working anymore, and only recently found out -- it IS! Yay!

Anyway, what's this about Buffy vs. FK?? Is this fiction for the crossover
loop?

Oh, and what happened to the LC's??

As ever

Cousin Janine
DK, DT, LC


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:47:40 -0500
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

Yep.  Turning Willow gay really made the show cheap.  There was really no
development for this to happen.  They just did it, and I felt this would have
been treated a lot better if it actually appeared to be planned.

Also, the writing and acting slowly declined since the h.s. eps.  I started
watching Buffy when it first aired.  And I gave up on it after all the cheap
gimmicks started.  The whole Angel and Buffy ending was far more tragic than
what I had expected from this show.

Thus, the h.s eps equal quality; the university eps equal bad writing like Saved
By the Bell.

Brian


----- Original Message -----
From: <Libratsie@a.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)


> Brian... What do you mean "what they did to Willow?" That's she's gay. I hope
> that is not what you meant. Please explain.
>
> I didn't start watching Buffy until this year, and I really haven't found a
> season I don't like.
>
> I think of all the episodes of Buffy vs. FK, FEVER is still my favorite and
> the best episode of television I've ever seen. I even did a a few papers on
> the episode when I was taking a script writing course. There's a lot of power
> there. One of my favorite FK lines is Natalie saying, "Who am I to judge?"
> concerning the vampires.
>
> Libs
>

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:00:20 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

Oy.  Brian, Brian, Brian, trying to dig to China are you?

Laurie of the Isles

 From: "Brian" <bwaichu@c.......>

> Yep.  Turning Willow gay really made the show cheap.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:59:37 -0500
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

Nah.  I'm just saying it how I see it.  No one has to agree.

Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laudon1965" <Laudon1965@c.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)


> Oy.  Brian, Brian, Brian, trying to dig to China are you?
>
> Laurie of the Isles
>
>  From: "Brian" <bwaichu@c.......>
>
> > Yep.  Turning Willow gay really made the show cheap.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:59:56 -0500
From:    Valerie Kessler <valerie@w.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Apr 2002 to 4 Apr 2002 (#2002-100)

> From: BJDFKFan@a.......

> attack dogs!  As ridiculous as it sounds, my understanding is that even if
> just cost of media (tapes or DVDs) and postage is charged, it's still
> illegal.  Personally I think this should be changed in the case of things

Technically it is, and it's not as ridiculous as it sounds for a lot of
reasons.  The nature of the law forces them to be paranoid if they want
to have any claim to their property in the future.

As bad as I feel for the author of the book in question (and I missed
all that entirely, so thanks, guys, for filling me in), it means they're
actually paying *some* attention.  Which -- considering that just 4
years ago poor Ginjer Buchanan was talking to was talking to what seemed
like different people every week about getting the tie-in novel license
renewed, some of whom apparently weren't even aware that Sony *owned*
the property, let alone that it was currently running on SciFi -- is
actually encouraging.  (And could I *have* a more labyrinthine sentence
there?  Sheesh.  Sorry, guys.)


> From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
>
> Guys, I can't prove it, but I have always suspected that Sony has a mole on

Also encouraging.  If so, let me say I will be the first in line to
pre-order DVDs the second I can do so.  In the meantime, I want to be
able to watch something that isn't literally (physical age of my
original-airing tapes) or figuratively (SciFi cuts) in tatters.  I know
I'm not the only one, and I know that I for one will scrap whatever
homemade stopgap I might come up with in favor of licensed commercial
DVDs should they be made available.

Sony can take that to the bank, and I can only hope they understand how
literally true that is.


> From: Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
>
> I just finished watching my fav ep of FK -- Last Act.

On my short list too.  I was pleasantly reminded today (a) how much I
love this ep, (b) how many "classic" lines come from it, (c) how cool
Erica was, (d) how much I still adore the Nick & Nat scene by the window
(my all-time favorite), and (e) why I was so excited when I found out
Brad Wright was joining the SG-1 production staff.  :-)

> I'm curious what yours are, and if they impact your
> writing your fan fiction.

I've written much less fic than a lot of people, but as long as we're on
the topic, "Last Act" had a *huge* impact on my first one in the fandom,
"Further to Fall".  Erica in particular loomed larger than one would
expect from a one-shot character who didn't even live past the opening credits.

I'm sure there are more examples, but I haven't read any of my own FK
fic in too long to tell you what they are.


Gosh, this ol' lurking dinosaur has had a lot to say the last couple
days...  ;-)

--
Valerie Meachum Kessler     ~:O
valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
"It's a lot more surreal this time around. I was in the
lobby having pictures taken with Halle, and she didn't
even know where she was." -- Denzel Washington

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:07:46 -0500
From:    Janine Fozzard <jfozzard@h.......>
Subject: On DVD

>>>If so, let me say I will be the first in line to
pre-order DVDs the second I can do so.  In the meantime, I want to be
able to watch something that isn't literally (physical age of my
original-airing tapes) or figuratively (SciFi cuts) in tatters.  I know
I'm not the only one, and I know that I for one will scrap whatever
homemade stopgap I might come up with in favor of licensed commercial
DVDs should they be made available.

I totally agree. My poor tapes are so bad now *sigh, I hardly watch them
anymore. I really hope they do come out on DVD! And I would certainly buy
them!


As ever

Cousin Janine
DK, DT, LC

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:10:27 -0600
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Cutting scenes

That scene was never in the Sci-fi version. Nothing has been cut (since the
1999 version), but the commercials are in different locations than before
and sometimes fade into the next scene instead of the next commercial break.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> # Yes, they are shaving off a few seconds, escpecially
> around the commericals.  The biggest cut I noticed was
> in "Dark Knight", after Schanke totalled the Caddy.
> The garage guy tries to open the trunk (with Nick
> inside),

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:17:39 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: "Last Act"

I've always wondered something about this episode,
and seeing it today brought it up again.  Those who
were with the list when the show was in first run, and
Mr. Bennett was on list, do you recall any mention
of what they were going for in the very intimate
scene in the beginning between the soon to be
murdered woman and her female superior?
Was the intimacy/sexuality of this scene purposeful?
Was it just a red herring to make us wonder later
if the female doc hadn't done it?

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:44:47 -0700
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK Cons

>we've
>had Kathryn Long (Divia, now all grown up!),

Hmmm, I've often wondered what she looks like grown up.  Is there a picture
of her hiding somewhere out there in netland? <G>
                       'Rose

Rome was not built by holding committe meetings.  It was done by killing all
those who opposed them.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:36:46 -0500
From:    "portia1@m......." <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

I also haven't liked any of the directions in which they have taken Willow's
character, nor have I found the last few seasons to be as delightful as I found
the first few.  Maybe there is something to be said for a show to slip away
while doing well....Of course, I suspect this is blasphemy in light of losing
our FK! "g"

Portia

Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)


Nah.  I'm just saying it how I see it.  No one has to agree.

Brian


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:02:57 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Entertainment value

FORKNI-L never fails to deliver.  Where else can you
see someone shoot their foot and swallow it at the same
time?

<eg>
Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:27:38 -0800
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Fav Ep?

My favorite episodes are Close Call, The Fix, Fever, and the Valentine's Day one.
Close Call has definitely impacted my writing, LOL!  Ever since I read the episode
summary on a site I had been waiting to see it.  When I finally did see it for
the first time, I had gotten the idea to do a story where Schanke knew Nick's
secret, except the idea ended up becoming much more than that.

I liked the Fix because it portrayed Nick as very human (not unlike the other
episodes, but more so) and there were a few humorous bits throughout that episode.
I like humor, but it has to always take a back seat when drama/action is heavily
involved in the plot.

I thought Fever was one of the best episodes for dramatic quality -- I'm not a
huge Screed fan, but I liked it anyway.

I'm also a romantic at heart, so I enjoyed the Be My Valentine ep a great deal.
That was one of the episodes that really got me interested in FK in the first
place, because it didn't show vampires as just B-movie monsters, but rather as
thinking and feeling intelligent beings who were at least as human as the rest
of us (or perhaps more so).  :)




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Emily M. Hanson
Home page - http://www.starbase-eprime.com
Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.com

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:33:47 -0800
From:    Katherine LaCroix <foxfirewalking@y.......>
Subject: Re: Memories of the Knight

My 'memories' aren't all that old, since I was
introduced to Forever Knight only a few months ago by
my friend and classmate Megan.  My most vivid
impression of the first few eps that I watched is of
LaCroix.  Meg says my eyes were just about popping out
of my skull everytime he walked into a scene, and all
I could think was 'HOW COOL!!!  This guy ROCKS!!!'

Katie LaCroix (Proud to share a last name)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:05:28 EST
From:    Evelyn Duncan <BrandyKitt@a.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

In a message dated 04/04/2002 4:48:47 PM Central Standard Time,
bwaichu@c....... writes:

<<
Thus, the h.s eps equal quality; the university eps equal bad writing like
Saved By the Bell.

>>

I think "Hush" is the best episodes of the whole series, and I love the
Glory episodes.  Buffy needs a villain like Glory, and I was hoping
Willow would be this season's villain (as much as I like her).

But the best part of any season is Giles, and I miss him so much!

Spoilers for "Hush":
a
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a
a
a
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a
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a
a
a
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a
a
There is a group called the Gentlemen; they remind me of the dead
people in Carnival of Souls, except they float along and are always
smiling.  They steal hearts, but are killed by screaming, so they
steal the voices of the people in the town they are invading.

Evelyn Duncan
brandykitt@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:06:47 -0800
From:    CD <clouddancer@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK Cons

> I've often wondered what she (Katheryn Long) looks like grown up.

This is one of my favorites. Nigel & Katheryn with "The Scythe".

http://www.mpica.com/LCA3/nigelkathryn3.jpg

http://www.mpica.com/index2.htm

--
Cloud

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:13:41 -0800
From:    Kelly C Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Funny scenes

The scene with Nick in the confessional using the Irish accent was one of
my faves, as was the scene in 'Fallen Idol' when Nat tells Tracy: "Try
not to O.D. on all the testosterone."
But my all time favorite funny scene, is when Reese (also in Fallen Idol)
tells Nick and Natalie: "Next time you two ask for joint custody~ hire a
babysitter!"  I love the look Nick and Nat exchange.

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......


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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:31:07 -0800
From:    Kelly C Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Fav Ep?

My all time favorite episodes?
In Order:

1. Be My Valentine
2. Night In Question
3. Only the Lonely
4. Let No Man Tear Asunder
5. My Boyfriend Is a Vampire

All ones I consider to be the great Nick/Nat episodes, so yes, they do
affect my writing.  I'm an incurable romantic, especially when it comes
to 'tragic' love affairs.  I like to 'fix' them!

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:51:12 -0500
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: KtK script auction update - final (thanks everyone)

>You will never find a time for everyone to agree on.
>
>I don't have a computer at home, so I use the one at
>work and Sunday and MONDAY are my days off.
>
>Knight Ranger
>
>--- SField8067@a....... wrote:
>>  I promise to end any future KtK auctions on a monday
>>  night, okay? <G>
>  > SField8067@a.......

At midnight? I don't care what day, but midnight is LATE! I fell
asleep before the last one was over when I really wanted a couple of
the scripts.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:51:51 EST
From:    Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK videos

I've been trying to download some of Eve's FK music videos, most of them are
no longer working.  Does anyone know whats up with this? I enjoy them so much.
Jeannie

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:56:57 -0800
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: Fav Ep?

--- Brian <bwaichu@c.......> wrote:
>
> I'm curious what yours are, and if they impact your
> writing your fan fiction.
>
> Chao,
>
> Brian

I will probably forget some of what I consider my
favorites, but here is a few.
The Fix:  because of the acting.  I think it was one
of the best ones for that reason.
For I Have Sinned:  because of the interaction between
Nick and Schanke.  Also it shows how hard it is to
overcome his fear of the cross and the church.  The
favorite part is in the confessional.  ;}
Be My Valentine:  Because of the interaction and
developement of Nick and Nat's hoped for relationship.
I like a lot of the first season eps, because of the
Nick and Schanke angle and because there is still a
lot of the dark in Nick and you see the struggle he
goes through with the vampire.  I could go on and on,
but I won't.  :}  Phylis


=====
Phylis (Knightfilli) N&NPacker, Knightie, Dark Knightie
"Vampire is not a career choice."  Bart Simpson

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:03:55 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK videos

Jeannie wrote:

> I've been trying to download some of Eve's FK music videos, most of them are
> no longer working.  Does anyone know whats up with this? I enjoy them so much.

What's happened with them is, Geocities took them all down. :( I only found
this out when the prof I research for expressed interest in one of my web
pages and when I gave her the link, it came up blank. I e-mailed to ask them
why they've basically obliterated my entire web page (including a non-FK
page I've had there for 5 years) but haven't gotten a response yet.

I'm more than willing to e-mail any videos people may want, and if anyone
wants to host them, or can tell me how I can get them set up somewhere, feel
free to jump in. Tracey Rayner is very kindly hosting a few of the early
ones for me (*waves to Tracey*).

E-mail me privately for a complete list of all available vids (I've made new
ones since the page was last updated).

Sorry for the inconvenience, Jeannie, but I'm glad to hear you enjoy them.
:)

Eve.

Eve Dutton
umdutto3@c.......
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The opinions contained herein are mine, not those of the University of
Manitoba. It is the opinion of the University of Manitoba that I should be
writing my thesis.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:50:24 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Cons

> Rose Thatcher wrote:

> Hmmm, I've often wondered what she looks like grown up.  Is
> there a picture of her hiding somewhere out there in netland? <G>

Take a look on the LCA site at www.mpica.org. There're photo albums from the
auctions and I'll bet there's a pic of Kathryn there.

She's very pretty--and tall! She's a ballet dancer now with a company in the US
(forget which one---is it in New York or Boston?)

========================================
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
Participate in the 2001 Forever Knight
Fan Fiction Awards: www.nancykam.com
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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:57:33 -0500
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Fav Ep?

I really liked "Father's Day" and think it affected some of my fic re: LC
and Nick's relationship.

Portia

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:25:42 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fav Ep?

My favorites are:

--the pilot (classic Schanke, and Nick's line -- "Will Somebody shoot
me---please?")
--Close Call (more great Schanke, and that last scene between him and LC--wow!
Is that scary or what?)
--Queen of Harps (Mortal Nick, so naive and idealistic; lovely soundtrack; yeah,
it's bad history, but a nice romantic story; and the little in-joke where Nick
keeps correcting people that the harp's from Wales, not Ireland or England <g>;
and oh, yeah, Nick-On-A-Horse)
--Sons of Belial (hey, I *am* in the UF! <g>)
--Father's Day (More UF!)
--Hunted (Nick says, "Come to me..." and I about jump through the TV screen <g>;
and I love that actress who played the whacked-out huntress)

oh, golly, I love a lot more eps. But these are the ones I tend to rewatch when
I need a good FK fix.

How have they affected my fanfic? Well, I think my flashback Nick is the one we
see in QoH. And the relationship between Nick and LC we see in the UFfish eps is
the one I try to write. And I prefer Schanke to Tracy as Nick's partner---so I
really like all the Schanke eps and write him into my fanfics.

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Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
Participate in the 2001 Forever Knight
Fan Fiction Awards: www.nancykam.com
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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:51:56 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

In a message dated 4/4/02 4:49:18 PM Central Standard Time,
bwaichu@c....... writes:

<< Yep.  Turning Willow gay really made the show cheap.  There was really no
development for this to happen.  They just did it, >>
Some people really do quite suddenly accept the fact they are gay, believe it
or not, even after having been in relationship with people of the opposite
sex.

So I guess having gay people on a show makes it cheap? I'm really surprised
more of the Rainbow Knights haven't stepped forward on this one.

Actually, FEVER was a great parallel between the gay community and the FK
universe vampire community. I guess the time was just not right to say it too
directly. Though I think to have done it more directly might have made the
episode a little too "in your face." In my opinion, the script is nearly
perfect - tight and with no padding. I agree with another fan on this list
who said BtVS's "Hush" is great. That is also a fantastic piece of writing
and acting. Very creepy and fun!

Of course I don't expect everyone to like BtVS, nor do I expect everyone to
like FK. They are too very different shows but are both favorites of mine,
though I fully expect others to have other favorite shows.

Libs

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Date:    Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:02:04 +0800
From:    Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: Buffy and FK (was Sony moles)

De-lurking to add my $0.02 on BtVS and FK:

The earlier seasons of Buffy - set in the high school- was definitely less
on "skin thrills". Lately all Buffy ever seems to do is well...Spike. I
think this shift to more "adult" stuff is what's making the show somewhat
"devalued"...rather than the introduction of the Willow-Tara relationship.

I miss more of the wisecracking stuff and the Scooby gang working together
as a vamp-fighting machine.

Libs is right to say that FK and BtVS are two very different shows.
I guess I'd like to see more Spike's character than his bod. Not that it's a
bad one <g> but Nick was a heck lot sexier and he never took much off at
all.

I made this remark somewhere previously, the FK vamps seemed more "real"
because they seemed to communicate more of their inner emotions than the
BtVS vamps. In a sense, these days BtVS seem like a bunch of randy teenagers
turned vamp - stuck in perpetual hormone overdrive.


Sigh, I miss FK....

Back to lurkdom.

Ell
Who is still saving $$ to buy the FK DVDs which may or may not materialise.
And Sony, if you see this - please, put FK on your AXN-Asia channel. If AXN
can run the original Charlie's Angels, it can jolly well run FK.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:33:37 -0800
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: memories in flash--Part 1

My memories of becoming a fan are kind of like a story.
They span over a decade and three different continents;
there are some bizarre occasions in them too. I have
turned it into a list, as short as it could get. Bare
with me, you wonít regret it. Here it goes:

-Tehran, Iran, early 90ís: Family rents a pirated VHS
tape (the only thing available to us in that kind of
country) of a movie about a cop who was a vampire and
romanced a blonde museum curator. At the end my mom
exclaims: ďThat didnít look like a movie. That looked
like the first episode of a TV show.Ē

-Dortmund, Germany, mid 90ís: There is this show on TV
with a blond guy who was a vampire and a cop. Only saw
glimpses of it, and never long enough to pay attention. I
assume it must be that TV show mom talked about.

-Vancouver, Canada, late 90ís: Same show, same story, in
English this time. Dad likes it and watches it
occasionally. I do too, as Iím getting increasingly
addicted to vampires and watching Buffy all the time.
Wondering how in the world the blonde museum curator
turned into a brunette.

-Vancouver, Canada, 2000: Have grown a fondness for
vampires. Buffy, in its third season, is not fun anymore
because it has turned into a monster fest and totally
lost the vampire charm. In search of a vampire fix I turn
into literature. Read a great vampire book, search for
more books by the same author but canít find them at the
library. In desperation and total boredom I go to the
Internet and decided to find good vampire fiction online
(this is totally out of a whim). But where to start?
Perhaps there will be something about that vampire/cop TV
show online? Do the search. Get to fkfanfic.com. Find
over 1500 stories, wow, long ones too, wow, GOOD ones
too, WOW.

TBC


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Countess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk

"Trudging through enternity, hauling my homemade horrors, do you think THAT was
my dream when I was young and evil?"

                           -Mommy Fortuna, The last Unicorn


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