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FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Sep 2001 to 14 Sep 2001 (#2001-278)

Fri, 14 Sep 2001

There are 23 messages totalling 956 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. WTC- I am one of the lucky ones
  2. Admin: Scam warning
  3. FTP site (2)
  4. Some stories...
  5. Tales from Neverending Story (2)
  6. Fwd: America (5)
  7. The Ladder by Which We Rise
  8. OT: Dear Terrorists (3)
  9. Has anyone heard from Laurie <mercbard>? (2)
 10. Friday night Vigil
 11. Other ways to help
 12. A Call to Arms!! or Cars!!
 13. This says it all....
 14. Checking in from Wales

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:50:56 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: WTC- I am one of the lucky ones

Sue wrote:
>>Well, I  just want to say thank God my husband who was one of the first on
the scene in a rescue capacity was not hurt. <snip><<

That is great news indeed!  In such a dark time, news of survivors are
bright lights in our hearts.

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:48:24 -0500
From:    mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Scam warning

I'm passing this on, just in case. Yes, I know usually this would be way
off-topic, but then, things are very unusual at the moment.

Consumer protection advocates are warning Internet users that scam
artists are trying to take advantage of Tuesday's terrorist attacks.
Spam solicitations have been sent out urging Netizens to donate money to
the Red Cross or other relief organizations. But the e-mails direct
potential donors to private Web sites apparently designed to steal
credit card numbers.

ONE SUCH E-MAIL discovered by the non-profit consumer group "SpamCom
F victims of our Nations
tragedy." But instead of linking to a Red Cross site, the e-mail sends
visitors to a privately-held Web site. While the site mentioned in the
"expressrelieffund2001" is no longer operational, an expert warns that
there are already several variations of the scam.

"It's shocking to anyone. But this kind of thing is not new in the spam
world," said Tom Geller, executive director of the SpamCom Foundation. "
'WTC spams' appeared within an hour of the World Trade Center disaster."
Another scam mail urges consumers to buy phone cards with images of the
New York City, promising to donate "donate 10% of the proceeds of the
sale of this commemorative card" to victims.

The Internet Scambusters agency reports finding similar scam attempts.
"We've received reports of spammers sending out calls for assistance for
"emergency relief funds, and directing the recipients to contribute
money to the Red Cross - through the spammers' Web sites. Many of these
spammers are trying to steal money and credit card numbers," the group
said in its newsletter today. "Do NOT respond to these emails!"

Web users who feel the urge to contribute financially to the relief
efforts should be suspicious of any e-mail solicitation, Geller said.
His organization offers these tips:

If you don't know the organization or person who sent the request, it's
probably fraudulent. Virtually no bona-fide relief agencies request
funds by sending email to people who are not already involved in that
agency. Solicitations made in this way may also violate laws in the
United States and Europe.

If you click on a link to donate, examine the URL shown in your browser.
If the domain name of the URL is hidden, unfamiliar, or doesn't match
the link's text, the request is probably fraudulent.

Verify the solicitor's identity through another medium (such as phone)
before giving money. Spammers frequently forge the identity and style of
well-known entities to gain credibility. Geller said he had not yet
heard of any victims falling for the scam. Those wishing to donate to
the Red Cross can visit the agency's official Web site at visit their
official Web site at http://www.redcross.org . Paypal.com and Amazon.com
are also accepting Red Cross donations. >>


McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:44 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: FTP site

Here is the ftp site.

ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/

--
Steph
stephke@i.......
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."  Katherine Hepburn

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:33:17 -0400
From:    Phoenix <phoenix@s.......>
Subject: Some stories...

Ladies, gentlemen.  Hi.  Some of you may remember me from the dim days of
FORKNI-L.  My name is Jean, I go by Jaye.  I founded the list back in 92.

I had to express my feelings on the recent events, and I thought I would
share something hopeful.  It's part of an internal company email I wrote
for Friday, when my company will be having an American Pride day.  Now, I
work on a telesales project for a national wireless company.  We sell
phones to customers via phone and internet.  A coworker of mine had spoken
to a very nice gentleman last week.  He'd requested that his phone be
shipped to 7 World Trade Center.  On Tuesday, she and I feared the worst
and kept monitoring the man's account for any signs of usage.  There was
nothing.

On Wednesday, another coworker calls me over to ask a question about an
order she'd received to process.  It'd been input that very day, and my
second coworker was suddenly upset, because the shipping address on the
customer's existing account was 7 World Trade Center.  I suddenly realized
that it was the unknown man that my other coworker had been concerned
about.  After giving my second coworker instructions on how to handle the
order, I raced over to where my first coworker was and gave her the good
news.  Her customer was alive and well.  We nearly bawled our eyes out.
It didn't matter that we didn't know this guy at all, other than as a
voice on the other end of a 10-minute phone call.  We were glad that he
was all right, and hoped that other strangers were all right as well.

While there may be dissenting voices around the world, the overwhelming
chorus is that the world is standing with the United States in our time of
need.  In Colorado, a simple prayer meeting involved people like
Christians, Muslims, pagans, atheists, all gathering to express,
peacerfully, their feelings and wishes for hope, for people to work
through their pain and their grief.  It brought tears to my eyes when I
heard that the Muslims present, despite some Americans threatening their
culture and way of life, stood up, denounced the events of Tuesday... and
were applauded.  America has come together like never before, and our
allies and even some old enemies were standing with us.  Hundreds,
thousands of people stopped by US Embassies around the world, some
Americans stranded by the grounding of air traffic, but mostly foreign
nationals, offering wreaths, prayers, candles, or any sort of momento they
could find to express their sorrow and solidarity.

Perhaps most striking in my mind are the events in London.  At 11.30 am
British STandard Time on Thursday, the tradition of the changing of the
guard at Buckingham Palace was altered for the first time in history.
Normally, the British play their national anthem.  Today, they played
ours.

For those who delight in historical irony, it was the British themselves
who caused the authoring of 'The Star-Spangled Banner' in the War of 1812.
Francis Scott Key wrote the beginnings of the song on the back of an
envelope while observing events at Fort McHenry.  On September 13th, 1814,
the British were hurling artillery at the American-held fort which
protected Baltimore Maryland from sea-borne attacks.  Through the night, a
few more rounds from the British guns were heard.  As dawn broke over the
burning fort, on September 14th, Key put a telescoope to his eye, hoping
to see evidence of who held the fort.  To his joy, fluttering in a morning
breeze, he saw the flag which had been specially-made for the fort's
American commander to display.  He then started writing the words which
now share the same name as the flag itself, The Star-Spangled Banner.

That our one-time mortal enemy had become our closest ally, that they
would choose to alter one of their own time-immemorial traditions to honor
the fallen at a uniquely British event, these things tell me that we do
not stand alone, not anymore.

I thank each and every one of you on the list for your support,
assistance, volunteering, blood donations, prayers, good thoughts, pagan
circles, or whatever you did to help.  Whether you knew it or not, you
were helping me, a list member.  I have a relative still missing at the
Pentagon, one of my coworkers is missing her only brother.  So when you
think of The Star-Spangled Banner, think of the fallen or missing, and
think of our friends worldwide who have come together to support us in our
time of need.  Thank them, as I do.  Your support has made it so much
easier to bear.

*hugs*

***

Jean Prior
aka Jayekitty
or Phoenix

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:52:41 -0500
From:    Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Re: Tales from Neverending Story

gregkramer fanklub wrote:

>No, I still haven't gotten to see any episodes as no one has stepped forward
>to tape the series for me *sob* But it looks good! He plays the recurring
>character "Rip Rowdy."

Has the series actually started airing?  I just did a search on excite.tv
and all I find is the 2 hour movie, which I've already taped for you.

Lindy

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:11:57 -0400
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant@h.......>
Subject: Fwd: America

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Grady, James
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:33 AM
>To: @COR All-Convergent
>Subject: FW: America
>Importance: High
>
>In light of yesterday's events, I wanted to share the perspective of a
>Canadian broadcaster on America's responsiveness and kindness!!! As he
>so aptly states, "Stand proud, America!"
>
>Subject: America
>
>This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
>America: The Good Neighbor.
>
>Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
>recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
>Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
>commentator. What follows is the full text of his
>trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
>Record:
>"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
>Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
>appreciated people on all the earth.
>
>Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
>Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
>Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
>forgave other billions in debts.  None of these
>countries is today paying even the interest on its
>remaining debts to the United States.
>
>When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it
>was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward
>was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of
>Paris. I was there. I saw it.
>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United
>States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
>American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
>Nobody helped.
>
>The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
>billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
>newspapers in those countries are writing about  the
>decadent, warmongering Americans.
>
>I'd like to see just one of those countries that is
>gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar
>build its own airplane.  Does any other country in the
>world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet,  the
>Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?  If so, why
>don't they fly them?  Why do all the International
>lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no
>other land on earth even consider putting a man or
>woman on the moon?
>
>You talk about  Japanese technocracy, and you get
>radios.
>
>You talk about German  technocracy, and you get
>automobiles.
>
>You talk about  American technocracy, and you find men
>on the  moon -  not once, but several times - and
>safely home again.
>
>You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
>right in the store window for everybody to look at.
>Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
>They are here on our streets, and most of them,
>unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
>American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
>
>When the railways of France, Germany and India were
>breaking down through age, it was the Americans who
>rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the
>New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old
>caboose.  Both are still broke.
>
>I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to
>the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me
>even one time when someone else raced to the Americans
>in trouble?  I don't think there was outside help even
>during the San Francisco earthquake.
>
>Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
>Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
>kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
>their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
>to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
>over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one
>of those."
>
>"Stand proud, America!"
>
>
>This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
>read regarding the United States. It is nice that one
>man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the
>world would realize it. We are always blamed for
>everything, and never even get a thank you for the
>things we do.
>
>I would hope that each of you would send this to as
>many people as you can and emphasize that they  should
>send it to as many of their friends until this
>letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just a
>single American that has read this.
>
>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
>"Enjolras alone was untouched."
>              -Victor Hugo
>               Les Miserables
>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
>

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:39:37 -0700
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: The Ladder by Which We Rise

Well, folks, Part 2 of this story, as posted to FKFIC-L this evening was
rejected as being over the 300 line limit, so I'm posting Part 2a tonight.
Unfortunately, I've already posted parts 1 and 3, so you'll have to wait
until tomorrow to get Part 2b.

Apologies.

Nancy

Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
"The first hundred years are the hardest."
    --Wilson Mizner

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:56:00 -0400
From:    "Sellers, Robert" <sellersjr@c.......>
Subject: OT: Dear Terrorists

Sorry for the Off Topic Post, but I found the following put
into words that which many of us in the U.S. feel about what
transpired earlier this week.

May many find peace in this time and going forward...
Bob

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Great, Powerful Piece by L. Pitts addressed to
terrorists
Wed Sep 12 08:40:41 2001

They pay me to tease shades of meaning from social and
cultural issues, to provide words that help make sense
of that which troubles the American soul.

But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears
sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to
say, the only words that seem to fit, must be
addressed to the unknown author of this suffering.

You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.

What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's
attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us?
What was it you hoped we would learn?

Whatever it was, know that you failed.

Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned
it.

Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our
resolve.

Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us
together.

Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and
quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, cultural,
political and class division, but a Family nonetheless.
We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous
emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's
revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse.

We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability
of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of
that, we walk through life with a certain sense of
blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent,
though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle
to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the
overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a
just and loving God.

Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all
of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not
weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be
measured by arsenals.

Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning, and we are
in shock. We're
Still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing
you did, still working to make ourselves understand
that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood
blockbuster, isn't the plot from a Tom Clancy novel.

Both in terms of the awful scope of its ambition and
the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely
to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the
history of the United States and, indeed, the history
of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been
bloodied before.

But there's a gulf of difference between making us
bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan
was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone
hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such
abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are
righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When
provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any
suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of
justice.

I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know
my people, as you do not. What I know reassures me. It
also causes me to tremble with dread of the future.

In days to come, there will be recrimination and
accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose
failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to
prevent it from happening again. There will be
heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic
freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered,
chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably
determined.

There is steel beneath this velvet. That aspect of our
character is seldom understood by those who don't know us
well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As
Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as
Americans we will rise in defense of all that we cherish.

Still, I keep wondering what it was you hoped to teach
us. It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to
know the depths of your hatred.

If that's the case, consider the message received. And
take this message in exchange: You don't know my
people. You don't know what we're about. You don't
know what you just started.

But you're about to learn.

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:34:59 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Re: FTP site

You can go to the fkfanfic2 site, the interim archive until Mel updates
again:

http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com

Anita

"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Portia Eins
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:59 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: FTP site


Would someone kindly provide me with the addy for the FTP site?  Also, does
anyone have a good idea how I might catch up on fic I've missed over the
past few months?  Since Mel's isn't updated anymore, I'm not sure where to
go.

Also, anyone heard anything from Knightraven/Kylie in a while?

Portia

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:20:56 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Tales from Neverending Story

In a message dated 9/13/01 6:53:08 PM Central Daylight Time, lindy@w.......
writes:

<< Has the series actually started airing?  I just did a search on excite.tv
 and all I find is the 2 hour movie, which I've already taped for you. >>
That I don't know, but Marg tells me it is airing in Canada on Saturdays so
hopefully I will finally get to see it!

Contact me off-list about the two hour movie and as soon as mail is flowing
normally, I'll make arrangements to re-imburse you.

FK fans are the greatest! ;-)

Libs
LibRatsie@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:30:16 -0700
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: OT: Dear Terrorists

--- "Sellers, Robert" <sellersjr@c.......> wrote:
> Sorry for the Off Topic Post, but I found the following put
> into words that which many of us in the U.S. feel about what
> transpired earlier this week.

Thank you, Bob.  You are right it does.  Phylis

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 02:12:34 -0300
From:    T Floyd <tfloyd@n.......>
Subject: Has anyone heard from Laurie <mercbard>?

Has anyone heard from Laurie mercbard?  I've been watching the list but
haven't heard from her yet.  Laurie, if you're out there speak up.

Lap
tfloyd@n.......

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:29:57 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Fwd: America

Well, gosh...I don't think we're all *that* wonderful, although we try, but
it sure is nice to read such complimentary things.

So, thanks, Canada.  We like you, too. :)

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:05:10 -0400
From:    "Mildred G. Cady" <cmildre1@n.......>
Subject: Re: Friday night Vigil

It is interesting that the call for a vigil has gone out for tonight.

Starting Wednesday, I've been working in my area to get together a vigil for
7:30 tonight in one of the city parks.  It started with an e-mail to some
friends.  I'm now not supprised if I'll have over 100 people.  It spread
from the e-mail to telling people at work, and there are even some flyers in
downtown and around the park.  I live in Albany, New York, and work happens
to be in a State building, right in the middle of a
financial/business/government area.

Mildred G. Cady
Merc Mommy General

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:23:31 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Laurie <mercbard>?

In a message dated 9/13/01 11:53:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
tfloyd@n....... writes:

<< Has anyone heard from Laurie mercbard?  I've been watching the list but
 haven't heard from her yet.  Laurie, if you're out there speak up. >>
Yes, she's living in Wales right now, so wasn't even in the USA at the time.

Libs

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:53:28 -0700
From:    Eric McCann <egmccann@t.......>
Subject: Other ways to help

The Red Cross, from what I'd heard, is almost swamped with blood (a
vampire's dream.) So if you can't give blood, you may be able to help.

This is from an email I get regarding the Screen Savers (TV show on TechTV.)

The New York American Red Cross is in dire need of technology equipment and
services. The field workers and sites have little, if any, means of
communication and the central office is processing way too much on
completely paper systems. Your help in acquiring these resources would be
greatly appreciated.
If you can help, please contact:
       Joe Leo, Assistant Director, Business Applications, IT
American Red Cross in Greater New York
phone: 212.875.2409
email:         jleo@a.......
150 Amsterdam Avenue
New York, NY 10023
       PLEASE NOTE: His email is slammed, so don't resend your messages
over and over again.
Following is the list of equipment that the Red Cross needs for its field
workers and expanded Emergency Operations Centers. It also needs certified
Citrix engineers and Microsoft-certified consultants.
       40 IBM computers and laptops (with NICs)
       Monitors (with desktops)
       Any storage solutions
       25 10/100 hubs (8+ Ports)
       100 Cat5 cables (All lengths)
       50 power strips
       Any IBM-compatible memory
       Any 3Com wireless NIC cards and LAN products
       30 desktop-size UPSs
       15 LaserJet printers (HP 1100 or faster) and printer supplies
       20 external Zip drives and disks
       Any diskettes and R/W CDs
       5 external CD burners
       5 duplex document scanners
       25 extension cords
       any colored tie wraps
       any Velcro cable wraps
       50 Citrix client licenses
       12 PCMCIA LAN cards for IBM P20 ThinkPads, preferably 3Com (in
addition to those in the new PCs)
       50 Microsoft Exchange CALs
       35 Microsoft SQL CALs
       50 Microsoft Office Professional licenses
       15 PC Anywhere licenses
       DSL lines
       PDAs with wireless capacity and service
       Nextel cellphones and service
Thanks in advance for your generous assistance. Any donation will help
greatly.

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:20:27 EDT
From:    Javiette@a.......
Subject: A Call to Arms!! or Cars!!

Hi everyone,

My friend Sue has been stranded in New York City since Tuesday.  All she wants
right now is to come home to Minnesota.  Her flight was cancelled yesterday,
Amtrak doesn't have a seat available until Wednesday, and greyhound is full.  I
was wondering if there was a way FK fans could help her get home.  This is what
I need:

A volunteer to either pick her up at her hotel, or meet her outside of New York
City and take her to Pennsylvania
A volunteer to meet the New York driver in Pennsylvania and drive her to Ohio
A volunteer to meet the Pennsylvania driver in Ohio and drive her to Indiana
A volunteer to meet the Ohio driver and drive her to Illinois, where I will meet
up with you and bring her the rest of the way home.

I will gladly reimburse everyone for their gas and anything else, meals, etc...
just to get her home.

Can we do it?  I hope so!!

Please let me know if you are willing to drive some of this, all of this, or any
of this.  People will have to be flexible and if we can't get her as far as
Illinois, I'm willing to drive as far as I can to get her.

Let me know!!

Rae
Javiette@a.......
Rae.Plachecki@m.......
cell:  xxx-xxx-xxxx

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:59:14 -0400
From:    Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: This says it all....

I don't listen to country music, but someone told me that the following song,
sung by Garth Brooks, have been used in a tribute piece.  So I looked up the
lyrics, and I thought they were worth sharing.

The Change - Garth Brooks
Written by: Tony Arata, Wayne Tester

One hand
Reaches out
And pulls a lost soul from harm
While a thousand more go unspoken for
They say what good have you done
By saving just this one
It's like whispering a prayer
In the fury of a storm

And I hear them saying you'll never change things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world will know
That it will not change me

This heart
Still believes
The love and mercy still exist
While all the hatred rage and so many say
That love is all but pointless in madness such as this
It's like trying to stop a fire
With the moisture from a kiss

And I hear them saying you'll never change things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world will know
That it will not change me

As long as one heart still holds on
Then hope is never really gone

I hear them saying you'll never change things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world we know
Never changes me

What I do is so
This world will know
That it will not change me

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:36:44 -0400
From:    siona <siona@s.......>
Subject: Re: Fwd: America

At 04:29 AM 9/14/2001, you wrote:
>Well, gosh...I don't think we're all *that* wonderful, although we try, but
>it sure is nice to read such complimentary things.
>
>So, thanks, Canada.  We like you, too. :)

That was actually written about 30 years ago during the Viet Nam War.  The
author passed away in 1984.

siona@s.......

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:16:30 -0700
From:    Lady Ariake <lady_ariake@y.......>
Subject: Re: Fwd: America

--- siona <siona@s.......> wrote:
> At 04:29 AM 9/14/2001, you wrote:
> >Well, gosh...I don't think we're all *that*
> wonderful, although we try, but
> >it sure is nice to read such complimentary things.
> >
> >So, thanks, Canada.  We like you, too. :)
>
> That was actually written about 30 years ago during the Viet Nam War.  The
> author passed away in 1984.

I do that we're that wonderful most of the time, and
I've been happy to see this spread around.  The US has
been remarkably generous to friend and foe alike--the
Marshall Plan spent millions to rebuild Europe after
World War II, including Germany.  There was even a
movie made ("The Mouse That Roared") whose entire
premise revolved around the fact it's better to lose a
war with the US than to win one.  For a long time, as
the essay indicates, we haven't gotten much thanks for
it.  Which is why I'm not only suprised but overjoyed
at the outpouring of sympathy and support from around
the world.  I hope it lasts.  Some of my greatest
support in the past few days has come from people on
the far side of the world.  If some good is going to
come out of this, I hope that closer, warmer relations
with the rest of the world are part of that good.

The thing that made me cry (I don't cry easily if at
all, even these past few days) was news I got on
another list--yesterday, for the first time in
history, the Changing of the Guard ceremony at
Buckingham Palace was alterted.  Instead of playing
"God Save the Queen' the band played "The
Star-Spangled Banner."  That got me to cry.

=====
"If you're going to have delusions of grandeur, go for the really satisfying
ones."  (Marcus Cole, Anla'shok, or my life motto.)

"...In all things trust the Weyrfolk, for their cause is just and true."

http://www.geocities.com/northrangesweyr

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:39:44 -0700
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Fwd: America

yesterday, for the first time in
history, the Changing of the Guard ceremony at
Buckingham Palace was alterted.  Instead of playing
"God Save the Queen' the band played "The
Star-Spangled Banner."  That got me to cry.

 I cried just reading this!  Thanks.

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:46:23 -0400
From:    Laurie MercBard <lschlag@m.......>
Subject: Checking in from Wales

Hi all, Hey Laplor ....

I am living in a small village in the mountains of Northern Wales, and so am
nowhere near my hometown of NY. So physically I am fine, and luckily so are my
friends and family, including a very close friend who works in the WTC, but as
usual, went to work for 9:30 and was on the bus when trouble started.

I've gotten enormous support from people here, not just in a superficial, Laurie
are you ok, sense,  but in the general sense of grieving and sorrow. There was a
short service at the local church (and there I was, a nice Jewish girl from Long
Island; not a lot of synagogues in North Wales <g>) during the European 3
minutes of silence this morning, and several of the village children who know
I'm from NY came up to ask how I was doing. And I've been able to get calls
through to NY since Wed aft, so have been keeping in touch with friends and
family there.

It has been a great comfort to read the list posts. I am very grateful I am not
in NY right now, but I am a born and bred New Yorker, and it's been important to
me to be able to share what fellow Americans are going through.

Love to all,

Laurie MercBard

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Date:    Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:41:34 -0400
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: OT: Dear Terrorists

Thank you Bob, I couldn't agree more!

Gwenn Musicante


>..... I found the following put into words that which many of us in >the
>U.S. feel about what transpired earlier this week.

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