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FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Sep 2001 - Special issue (#2001-275)

Tue, 11 Sep 2001

There are 31 messages totalling 1009 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Reporting in from Toronto (3)
  2. Nat a vampire?!  (Not Nick's fledgling!!!)
  3. Tragedy (3)
  4. Checking in from DC Metro area
  5. Holding On (2)
  6. Checking in... (2)
  7. OT? - I Feel Sick (9)
  8. DC reporting in
  9. Number to Call for report
 10. Passing on the News
 11. FK reactions (was Re: Checking in...) (2)
 12. Condolences from Canada (2)
 13. A Bit of Humor
 14. Giving blood, was Re:      Checking in...
 15. Giving blood

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:56:47 -0400
From:    Marg <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Reporting in from Toronto

The CN Tower has been closed to the public. Most of the office buildings
downtown have closed and the occupants sent home.  All the airports in
Canada are attempting to deal with the sudden influx of planes that had
American destinations but were diverted to Canada. The Mayor of Toronto
has asked Torontonians to open their homes to billet the Americans and
others who are now stranded here.

Even the Toronto hospitals have been put on alert in case aid is needed
and the Blood Donation centres are swamped with people who want to
donate blood.

My heart goes out to my friends in the US today, especially those in NYC
and DC. Please, please check in when you are able to.

--
Marg Yamanaka  <mytoronto@h.......>
heartbroken
in Toronto, the City of the Knight

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:12:23 -0400
From:    Valerie Kessler <valerie@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nat a vampire?!  (Not Nick's fledgling!!!)

> Does anyone know the name and/or author of the story where Natalie
> becomes a vampire as an old argument between Nick and his vampiric
> sibling, Paul?  (With Paul as Nat's master.)

*raises hand*  Mea culpa.  "Further to Fall".

You can find it on my fic page at:

http://www.wiliqueen.com/fanfic.html

Wow, I haven't even really thought about that story in so long...   *g*

(Mind you, today I'm not doing much thinking in general...just being
shocky.  Glad to hear from all the listsibs who've checked in to say
they're okay.)

--
~:O  Valerie Meachum Kessler
valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
"I've determined that he needs to go on a field trip
to Apophis' home planet.  Spray painted pink and with a
'kick me' sign on his back.  Along with Kennedy, Maybourne,
Simmons, and Samuels." -- Tina re: Kinsey

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:41:46 -0400
From:    knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: Tragedy

Bonnie (Rutledge):

Hi.  Glad to hear that you and your step father are safe.  Again (as I already
relayed to Jeanine aka jhornby@h....... from the NNPack list), it's good to
know that another friend is okay and is physically unscathed by this tragedy.

Grace
aka Knightfangs
Survivor War XI ** Wolfville 2001

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:49:03 -0400
From:    Arletta Asbury <g4akl@c.......>
Subject: Checking in from DC Metro area

I'm fine.  I'm a US Federal Employee (NASA) who works in a Maryland
suburb of DC.  I went to work late today and I had just arrived
when we were sent home as a precaution.  I drove home via the
"back way" because traffic in the whole DC metro area was supposed
to be horrendous with all the governement agencies sending all
of their non-emergency people home simultaneously. Also some roads
and bridges were said to be closed to everyone except emergency
personnel.

Earlier the TV news said we were to keep the phone lines clear
but at this point I think it's ok to be online.

Arletta Asbury

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:09:11 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Holding On

I've watched the news all day, talked with my kids at school, cried and
read the messages to the list.  I can't thank everyone enough for the
virtual hand holding that we've been doing today.   I'm in San Angelo,
Texas.  I live about 3 miles from an Air Force Training Base and only 100
miles from the B1 base in Abilene.  Scary?  Unquestionably, but right now
we're all trying to keep our lives going in as normal a fashion as
possible.

Every person (which is every person on this earth) who is or will be
affected by this unspeakable tragedy are in my thoughts and prayers.

I know in the days and months to come we'll all need to hold on to each
other and it's so comforting to know that my list family will be there.

Terri
eowyn3@j.......

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:15:04 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Checking in...

Checking in from Minnesota.  The Twin Cities airport, the IDS
building and the Mall of America were shut down.  So were some
schools, but not the one where I take night classes.  Most people
here are just in shock, which I imagine is the same all over.
I don't have web access at work, but co-workers have radios and there
is a TV in the hallway that always has the news channel on, which
most people gathered around on their breaks to watch.  Seeing the
pictures is just incredible.

In an attempt to try and keep this on topic, what do you think the
reactions of Nick & company would be?  I think Nick would angst a
great deal and LaCroix would mock the terrorists in a monologue as
the Nightcrawler.  That would be a show to listen to.

Emily

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:10:11 +0100
From:    Kezia Hepden <keziahepden@h.......>
Subject: OT? - I Feel Sick

.... I've been at home today, and turned the tv mid-afternoon to be greeted
by scenes of absolute horror from New York and Washington.  Last time I felt
anything like such a sick feeling of 'This isn't real, I'm just imagining
it', I had a maniac slashing at my throat with a knife!  Nothing else in my
life comes close in comparison.

I'm definitely not a religious person, but my hopes and prayers are that all
list members and your loved ones in those cities are safe and well.

Kezia

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:40:10 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Re: Checking in...

LaCroix would rant, then he would try to get even. I don't think even he
could be so hard-hearted to ignore the deaths of thousands of innocents. He
would see it as something only vampires could do, bring the sob's to
justice.

Anita

"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Emily
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:15 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Checking in...


Checking in from Minnesota.  The Twin Cities airport, the IDS
building and the Mall of America were shut down.  So were some
schools, but not the one where I take night classes.  Most people
here are just in shock, which I imagine is the same all over.
I don't have web access at work, but co-workers have radios and there
is a TV in the hallway that always has the news channel on, which
most people gathered around on their breaks to watch.  Seeing the
pictures is just incredible.

In an attempt to try and keep this on topic, what do you think the
reactions of Nick & company would be?  I think Nick would angst a
great deal and LaCroix would mock the terrorists in a monologue as
the Nightcrawler.  That would be a show to listen to.

Emily

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:42:49 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Re: Holding On

I know how you feel, I'm about 20 miles away from Oak Ridge in Tennessee,
the home for the Manhattan Project and quite a few nuclear reactors, then
there's TVA which uses nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. If they
blew Oak Ridge, then we'd be a glowing bulls-eye for other kamikaze idiots!

Anita

"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
eowyn3@j.......
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:09 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Holding On


I've watched the news all day, talked with my kids at school, cried and
read the messages to the list.  I can't thank everyone enough for the
virtual hand holding that we've been doing today.   I'm in San Angelo,
Texas.  I live about 3 miles from an Air Force Training Base and only 100
miles from the B1 base in Abilene.  Scary?  Unquestionably, but right now
we're all trying to keep our lives going in as normal a fashion as
possible.

Every person (which is every person on this earth) who is or will be
affected by this unspeakable tragedy are in my thoughts and prayers.

I know in the days and months to come we'll all need to hold on to each
other and it's so comforting to know that my list family will be there.

Terri
eowyn3@j.......

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:50:16 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

It was so surreal! Like a movie...

I called my mum at work this morning a little before 9 and when I
transferred the call, instead of music was a report about finding a tail
section. She picked up the line and I made the comment that we had another
plane crash (thinking regular crash) and we both ignored it after that. Then
I got in my car about 90 minutes later and then learned that the WTC towers
were hit, as well as the Pentagon. All I could think of was- please God, let
this be someone's sick idea of a joke!

Why innocent people, we never did that to them! I could see them taking out
a military installation, but the toll of *innocent* people killed... I don't
know whether to cry or vomit :\

Anita

"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Kezia Hepden
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:10 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: OT? - I Feel Sick


.... I've been at home today, and turned the tv mid-afternoon to be greeted
by scenes of absolute horror from New York and Washington.  Last time I felt
anything like such a sick feeling of 'This isn't real, I'm just imagining
it', I had a maniac slashing at my throat with a knife!  Nothing else in my
life comes close in comparison.

I'm definitely not a religious person, but my hopes and prayers are that all
list members and your loved ones in those cities are safe and well.

Kezia

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:07:59 -0400
From:    Anne Terrien <aterrien@g.......>
Subject: Re: DC reporting in

I'm in downtown DC, and it was absolute chaos at about 10:30 when
they let us out of class and evacuated all of the federal buildings.
Giving credit to the Metro Police Department, things had cleared up
completely in about two hours (I know that seems like a long time,
but we were thinking that the gridlock could continue for most of the
evening).  Right now things are spookily calm downtown, obviously
Bush just got back, but there is a huge perimiter around the White
House and we've heard that there are National Guard members
mobilizing all around the city (VA and MD federalized their National
Guard earlier this afternoon).

I have to say that this afternoon was one of the scariest in my life,
and this is absolutely nothing compared to what is comming out of New
York right now.  I'd like to back up what other list members have
said, blood donation centers here are overwhealmed (and the medical
personal are obviously busy elsewhere), I street had a backup of 7
hours because they only had two stations, so if you're in an area
where you can readily give blood (or have a car) please give blood.

My roomates and I are off to church, and you are in all of our
prayers (this is one situation that defies denomination).

Love and Prayers,
Anne


>I'm across the freeway from the Pentagon, and so far,
>all right.  The fire is still burning, but they
>haven't evacuated other buildings yet.  The military
>is all over the place above us, fighters and choppers,
>but no one's given any evacuation orders yet.  I don't
>think there'd be any place to go.
>
>I'd like to echo the plea--if anyone can give blood,
>please!  I can't, I'm a transfusion recipient, and
>i've never regretted it so much.  They're going to
>need it in NY.

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:23:32 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

My first impression was that the attack was right out of a Tom Clancy
novel.  IIRC, he had used something similar -- but with only one
airplane -- as a plot device.  They interviewed him this afternoon as
I was driving to school (I take night classes).  It struck me as
ironic that his comment was that no author could have dreamed up an
event of this magnitude as a plot.   It feels surreal, though.  One
person at my workplace remarked that he thought it was a War of the
Worlds joke for a few minutes.  You know how some radio stations do
morning shows and have crazy stuff.

I'm in Minnesota, and the major targets here -- the IDS tower and the
Mall of America -- were shut down.

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Home page - http://www.starbase-eprime.com
Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.com

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:33:16 -0500
From:    CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

I'm in Houston, TX and work for a major oil company.  We were  sent home
just after 10 am CDT as a precaution.  The thinking was that having hit
major financial and military centers, one of the major centers in the
energy field could be next.   Thankfully, this has not been the case.

My thoughts and prayer for all the families that have been so tragically
touched by these events.

Marci C.

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:34:21 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Number to Call for report

If you have family/relatives/close friends you know were in the WTC/Pentagon,
here's a toll-free # to call to find out if they're ok:

1-800-331-0075

That was the # quoted by the Attorney General on tv.

Anita
"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com

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Date:    Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:49:08 +0100
From:    Kezia Hepden <keziahepden@h.......>
Subject: Passing on the News

With over 600 list members, I'm betting some of you are also B5 fans...  And
I know communications in and out of NY are spotty at best, so I'm asking you
to help spread the news if you're also on a B5 list.

Just finished checking my day's emails, and there was one with news of B5
actor Michael O'Hare - his wife, Ruth, who is English has phoned her
London-based former housemate (and a mutual close friend) to say they're
both fine, but shocked by today's events.

If anyone wants a copy of Sarah's email to pass onto relevant lists, please
feel free to contact me on either keziahepden@h....... or
kezia.hepden@b.......

It's well after midnight my time, so I'll be replying to any requests in
about six-eight hours' time.  (Yawn!  and you can tell how late it is - this
is the second attempt, as I posted from the wrong email address the first
time....)

Kezia

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:16:16 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Tragedy

I heard about a plane crash on the radio and turned on the tv.
Ohmygodohmygodohmygod--Mom! Dad! Come quick!  Then all day at work wishing I
had access to the news---what a time to be stuck at new store support!
I'm still shaking inside.  An aunt and uncle sometimes go to Boston and I
can only pray that they weren't on that flight because due to a silly fight
with my parents they haven't spoken to us for over a year. God, I hope they
are okay.

Thank you, Canadians for helping out during this crisis, and God help all of
us.  Javier might survive such an cowardly act of mass murder, but we humans
don't and I hope the culprits are caught soon.
Lacroix's worst punishment are too good for the creeps behind this!

:'(
Kyer

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:28:53 -0400
From:    knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

> Why innocent people, we never did that to them! I could see them taking out
> a military installation, but the toll of *innocent* people killed... I don't
> know whether to cry or vomit :\
>
> Anita

I'm getting so sick of so many people on TV, mostly newscasters and government
officials, comparing this tragedy to Pearl Harbor.  The WTC was not a military
installation, and though the Pentagon is a government agency, once again it's
not military.  These were innocents, not military personnel who signed up
knowing the risks.  I'm not trying to make less of the tragedy of Pearl Harbor,
but to me, this situation is even sicker/worse.  Comparing it to Hiroshima and
Nagasaka is a much more accurate description.  What a shame!  So many human
lives (and animals, too) thrown away just to make a point!

Grace

Knightfangs
Survivor War XI ** Wolfville 2001
----- Original Message -----

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:35:04 -0700
From:    Lady hawke <darkknightie@y.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

--- Emily <emilymhanson@y.......> wrote:
> My first impression was that the attack was right out of a Tom Clancy
> novel.  IIRC, he had used something similar -- but with only one
> airplane -- as a plot device.  They interviewed him this afternoon as
> I was driving to school (I take night classes).  It struck me as
> ironic that his comment was that no author could have dreamed up an
> event of this magnitude as a plot.   It feels surreal, though.  One
> person at my workplace remarked that he thought it was a War of the
> Worlds joke for a few minutes.  You know how some radio stations do
> morning shows and have crazy stuff.
>
> I'm in Minnesota, and the major targets here -- the IDS tower and the
> Mall of America -- were shut down.

***I live in San Antonio with four military bases.  I
felt(and still feel) like a sitting duck.  they are on
highest alert.  They just showed F16s sitting fully
armed and waiting in case they are needed.

Maria

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:23:50 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: FK reactions (was Re: Checking in...)

LaCroix would have nothing but scorn for terrorism, I think.  He would see
it as inefficient and above all, cowardly.

Janette would have sympathy for the victims above all else.

Nick would not angst, I feel, but be very very angry and perhaps try to
track down those responsible.

Screed would shake his head and tsk-tsk; Vachon would reflect upon other
massacres, and Urs would weep.

Natalie would mobilize a blood drive and Schanke would be quite vocal in his
disgust.

Not so different from us, are they?

I forgot who started this topic, but I want to thank you for giving me
something to occupy my mind.

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:46:42 -0400
From:    knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK reactions (was Re: Checking in...)

> Nick would not angst, I feel, but be very very angry and perhaps try to
> track down those responsible.

I think Nick would help with the work of trying to search and rescue the
victims and then track down the responsible party

Knightfangs
Survivor War XI ** Wolfville 2001

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:02:08 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Condolences from Canada

To all list members in NY and DC, and all people who were
affected by the tragedies today, our thoughts and prayers
are with you. I still canít believe this has happened and I
hope the people responsible pay for it dearly.

@>--Ď--,--

Sunny


=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
"What time is it, what day is it, what century is it?"

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:56:47 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

At 08:28 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, Grace wrote:

>These were innocents, not military personnel who signed up
>knowing the risks.

Grace, there were many civilians who did NOT live on the base who were
killed in the Pearl Harbor attack (family history).

>  What a shame!  So many human lives (and animals,
>too) thrown away just to make a point!

(1) And what of all of the lives Our Favorite Vamps have thrown away????

(2) While most of us here believe that these attacks were a shame and a
waste of precious lives, not every culture has the same values we do. Some
believe that the only lives with inherent value are those of male adult
believers; others believe that the value of life is to die well. In dying
for their cause, the terrorists died well (by their standards). I hope most
of us here don't think of judging others only by our own standards.


Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:29:26 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: A Bit of Humor

I just saw on the weather news that there is a tropical storm 'Felix', wouldn't
that mean it's a Felix Twist? lol Just though we could all use a short emotional
break, remember that laughter is the universal cure-all, even if you can't
laugh, try to grin!

Anita
"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com  ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com  ~  http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:43:24 -0400
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Tragedy

The list probably won't let this through 'till tomorrow, but I had to
re-subscribe to the list b/c in a time like this, I needed the FK
communittee.  All I can think to toss in the teeth of those who did this to
us is "the Phoenix rises from the ashes."  America will not be knocked down.

In grief,
Portia

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:36:14 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

Brenda wrote:
>> Grace, there were many civilians who did NOT live on the base who were
killed in the Pearl Harbor attack (family history).<<

Not only that, but neither civilian not military personnel at Pearl Harbor
had any more reason to expect an attack than did those today.  We were not
at war with Japan, we had committed no aggressive action toward them, in
fact the Japanese ambassador had just been visiting with President
Roosevelt.

>>While most of us here believe that these attacks were a shame and a waste
of precious lives, not every culture has the same values we do. <snip><<

I also don't think we can turn a blind eye to the policies of our government
which have caused so many people to hate Americans so much.  Check out this
URL:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1538000/1538861.stm
and scroll down the page to the second picture.

Above all, vengeance is not the answer.  Calm and love are our best
defenses.

Just my .02.

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:44:10 -0700
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: Reporting in from Toronto

--- Marg <mytoronto@h.......> wrote:
> My heart goes out to my friends in the US today,
> especially those in NYC
> and DC. Please, please check in when you are able
> to.
To all our friends in Canada, THANK YOU!  For your
thoughts, prayers and for taking care of our stranded
travelers.  I am in Nebraska and still in shock.  I
can not imagine what any one is going thru that is
there or have loved ones there.  Please continue to
think of us and once again thank you.  Phylis

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:51:06 -0700
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: Giving blood, was Re:      Checking in...

--- T Floyd <tfloyd@n.......> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
If you
> can, this would be a very good time to give blood
> wherever you  are, imho.
>
> LapLor--
> tfloyd@n.......
Good suggestion.  My apt. is tomorrow.  Phylis

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:08:46 -0500
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: Giving blood

I called Canadian Blood Services here, several times, but couldn't get
through. I'll try again tomorrow.

Eve.

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:07:05 -0500
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: Condolences from Canada

>To all list members in NY and DC, and all people who were
>affected by the tragedies today, our thoughts and prayers
>are with you. I still can't believe this has happened and I
>hope the people responsible pay for it dearly.

I'd like to add my condolences to Sunny's. They've diverted several flights
here to Winnipeg, and the hotels downtown are packed--people are having to
double up rooms just to get a place to sleep. The city is providing bus
transportation for everyone, and we're being discouraged from calling the
U.S. I've been online all day making sure my friends are all right, and I'm
glad to hear folks from the list reporting in.

Last night I fell asleep while making an FK tape for a friend--the last
episode I put on it was Black Buddha. When my mother woke me up this morning
I thought I was still dreaming.

My deepest sympathies to all. I knew someone (well, a friend of a friend)
who was on Flight 11, along with his wife, and just knowing that is making
me physically ill.

What a terrifying thing to have happen.

Eve.

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:34:29 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick

As I recall, it was the Palestinians who started trying to mass murder
(drive into the Medditeranean Sea) the Isrealites.  They stated as much then
put actions to words in such things as the 6 Day War.  Do Israel soldiers
kill Palestineans? Yup.  But usually because the Palestinians are throwing
rocks (which can be quite deadly as history shows and that is why the
kids/ect throw them.)

I support Israel in their fight to exist despite so many enemies and I will
continue to support them and any other group under such straights.  If the
Arabs lost land---well, they shouldn't have started the war.  I think it's
too bad Israel didn't get more.  They need the buffer.

Are the people of Israel and the US saints?  Heck no.  But I like us and our
morals a sight better than people who do victory dances when thousands of
people die.

Kyer
----- Original Message -----
From: "StormBorn" <smolly4@q.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FORKNI-L] OT? - I Feel Sick


> Brenda wrote:
> >> Grace, there were many civilians who did NOT live on the base who were
> killed in the Pearl Harbor attack (family history).<<
>
> Not only that, but neither civilian not military personnel at Pearl Harbor
> had any more reason to expect an attack than did those today.  We were not
> at war with Japan, we had committed no aggressive action toward them, in
> fact the Japanese ambassador had just been visiting with President
> Roosevelt.
>
> >>While most of us here believe that these attacks were a shame and a waste
> of precious lives, not every culture has the same values we do. <snip><<
>
> I also don't think we can turn a blind eye to the policies of our government
> which have caused so many people to hate Americans so much.  Check out this
> URL:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1538000/1538861.stm
> and scroll down the page to the second picture.
>
> Above all, vengeance is not the answer.  Calm and love are our best
> defenses.
>
> Just my .02.
>
> Molly/StormBorn
> Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
> Abnormally fond of dead guys
> smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
> http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:18:12 -0700
From:    June Williams <mssivan@y.......>
Subject: Re: Reporting in from Toronto

Hi Marg,

I'm fine, but I do have one friend who worked in TWTC
and we haven't heard from him yet. But that's not
unusual. There are just so many who haven't made it
home yet, and even if they are safe might not have
been able to reach anyone on the phone. Guess I'm just
heartsore like everyone else.
Ad Astra,
June

=====
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Cousin,Valentine,Closet Knightie

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