FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 24 May 2001 to 25 May 2001 (#2001-166)
Fri, 25 May 2001
There are 9 messages totalling 507 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Divia and Asperger's syndrome (2)
2. Checking
3. Forever Knight in San Diego (2)
4. Letters to TPTB! (2)
5. VCR ALERT -- May Movies (2)
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:49:27 -0700
From: Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......>
Subject: Divia and Asperger's syndrome
on 5/24/01 2:00 PM, Kezia wrote:
> Hmm... can anyone honestly say this doesn't sound like a pretty good
> description of our 'dear' (sic - very!) little Divia?
I'm not sure. I think we're supposed to see Divia as genuinely evil, not
simply emotionally detached. I have (at least) one friend with a moderate
form of Asperger's syndrome, and he's not evil, he's just a bit geeky - kind
of a textbook computer nerd (not, I hasten to add, that all computer nerds
have Asperger's). If he had a serious form it would, I guess, make him more
nerdlish, but it still wouldn't make him want to get out there and destroy
people, which is what Divia does. She seems to WANT a connection - but of a
negative kind.
I am not up on this at all and am not a psych professional of any kind, so
please take everything I say with a grain of salt! But from what little
I've run across on autism, I haven't seen it connected with 'evil' behaviour
- just unsociable behaviour. But I'm more than willing to be corrected if
I've got it wrong.
L
--
Klytaimnestra lbowman@c.......
Fanfiction at http://members.home.net/lbowman
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:27:13 -0700
From: Steve Hood <nexus_dragon@y.......>
Subject: Checking
Hey guys-
I was looking to get in contact with Mel and Steph (or
whoever's corresponding for Mel), but don't have their
email addies. Drop me a line?
Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:45:28 -0700
From: Lady Ariake <lady_ariake@y.......>
Subject: Re: Divia and Asperger's syndrome
--- Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......> wrote:
> But from what little
> I've run across on autism, I haven't seen it
> connected with 'evil' behaviour
> - just unsociable behaviour
Well, I'm not a psych professional either, but my best
friend is and puts up with a lot weird questions from
me. Now, her specialty is development/research, not
clinical or abnormal, but from what I understand from
her, that's right--autism doesn't generally lead to
antisocial behavior. I've worked with severly
autistic children in theraputic riding program, and I
didn't observe particularly violent
behavior--disconnected, yes, but there wasn't a real
focus to any outbursts. Divia, frankly, sounds like a
sociopath--incapable of empathy with others. They're
functional in society in that they can interact, but
they are also the kind of people who can torture small
animals (or people, for that matter) without
recognizing that they are inflicting pain. They will,
however, react violently when subjected to pain
(physical or emotional) themselves, but they don't
seem to recognize or sympathize with it in others.
They're the kind of people who become serial killers.
To them what they're doing makes perfect sense, but
they're not criminally insane--they recognize that
they're breaking laws and moral codes, but don't care
because in their minds it doesn't apply to them.
Divia seems to fit that profile a little more than
autism, at least from what I can determine by
pestering my friend. (Who's very nice about
questions, all things considered, though she sometimes
gets frustrated when I ask questions about brain
anatomy and want explanations over the phone!)
Jennifer (slipping back into lurk mode)
=====
"If you're going to have delusions of grandeur, go for the really satisfying
ones." (Marcus Cole, Anla'shok, or my life motto.)
Gold Anareth, firelizards browns Dral and Broz, green Lyta, and bronze Tamet.
(See what I mean?)
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:20:56 -0700
From: Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Forever Knight in San Diego
Announcing The 1st Annual FOREVER KNIGHT IN SAN DIEGO Fan Get Together
August 10, 11 and 12, 2001 in sunny San Diego, California
Activities are still in the planning stage... come join us and toss in
your ideas at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FKinSD
Possible Activities: Beach party, FK Video-thon, Boardwalk amusement
park, 'Ravenesque' goth clubbing, dining in the Gaslamp Quarter, Old
Town & the haunted Whaley House, Indian Gaming, the possibilities are
endless...
http://www.playsandiego.com/visitors_guide/index.html
http://www.vivasd.com/map/index.html
http://www.sandiego.cc/sandiego/
For those of you not in this area, it's a great place to vacation!
--
Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
http://www.geocities.com/cloudworley/Clouddancer.html
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:26:58 -0700
From: Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight in San Diego
What a wonderful idea! Unfortunately, I can't make it this year, but
if it's going to be an annual event, there's always next year.
--- Cloud <clouddancer@h.......> wrote:
> Announcing The 1st Annual FOREVER KNIGHT IN SAN DIEGO Fan Get Together
> August 10, 11 and 12, 2001 in sunny San Diego, California
=====
Emily Hanson
Main website - http://www.starbase-eprime.com
Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.com
ICQ# 73113057
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:14:49 -0500
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Letters to TPTB!
Greetings everyone!
Just to let you know, as already a part of KtK, I am now the new official
KtK letter counter! I'm taking over where Rae left off and I am ready to
start couting "fresh" letters to TPTB! :)
Forget what's it about?! Read on...
You guys write actual snail mail letters to the powers that be, and then you
tell me by e-mail "how many were written/to whom/and who wrote them." I'll
be making monthly announcements on how many have been written. My e-mail
addy is kris1228@s........
Addresses to write to are both on my site (http://knightvision.4ever.cc) and
the official KtK site (http://members.aol.com/ktkpage/index.htm). I've also
attached them at the bottom of this message.
Please note there is NEW BLOOD to write to!! They are in the middle of a
hostile takeover of USA Networks. V/U currently owns 40% of USA and are now
trying to gain complete control of the Network from Barry Diller. This is a
great time to write a letters to Mr. Messier of V/U asking for more FK.
Here's his address:
Mr. Jean Marie Messier, CEO
Vivendi/Universal Corp.
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152-0192
Well, I'll be posting the first count in July, so let's have some big
numbers! Remember to send me "how many were written/to whom/and who wrote
them."
Long Live the Knight!
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."
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ADDRESSES:
*For getting FK on Air and NEW movies,etc..*
Bonnie Hammer
Executive Vice President and General Manager
Sci-fi Channel
1230 Avenue Of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
..............................................................
Mel Harris
Chief Operating Officer-Television
Sony Pictures Entertainment
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City,CA 90
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Stephen Chao
USA Networks
2049 Century Park E., Ste., 2550
Los Angeles,CA 90067
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Edgar Bronfman Jr.
CEO & President
The Seagram Co. Ltd.
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152-0192
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Mr. Jean Marie Messier, CEO
Vivendi/Universal Corp.
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152-0192
*For more FK merchandise*
Marci Gordon
Sony Product Development
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10102 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232
....................
800-Trekker
P.O. Box 13131
Reading, PA 19612-3131
*For more FK books*
Grace Ressler
Publishing Manager
Sony Signatures
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232
...................
Boulevard Books
The Berkley Publishing Group
200 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10016
*For FK on video*
Columbia House Video Library
1400 Fruitridge Avenue
Terre Haute, IN 47811
*For fans in the U.K.*
Customer Relations Department
British Sky Broadcasting PLC
Subscriber Management Centre
P.O. Box 43
Livingston
West Lothion
EH54 7DD
SCOTLAND
...................
The Sci Fi Channel
77 Charlotte Street
London
W1P 2DD
ENGLAND
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:46:32 +0800
From: Cheryl Hoffman <hoffman@p.......>
Subject: VCR ALERT -- May Movies
Well, here's what's on for the last week of May. The June List will be out
sometime this weekend, still checking out the guide.
As always, check your local listings for exact dates & times.
NIGEL BENNETT:
Darkman 3, Die Darkman, Die HBO-P 26
Cinemax 26
Degree of Guilt Lifetime 27
Shattered Trust:Shari Karney LifeMovies 30,31
The Skulls Starz 25,26
Thanks of a Grateful Nation Show3 26
JOHN KAPELOS:
Man Trouble Encore 31
Vibes HBO-P 31
BEN BASS:
Killer Among Friends TRUE 25
CATHERINE DISHER:
The Vindicator CineMax 27
KRISTEN LEHMAN, EARL PASTKO, MICHAEL MCMANUS:
Dog Park Starz 31
SANDI ROSS:
Down in the Delta Showtime 27
VON FLORES:
Renegades STARZ 29/30
COLM FEORE:
The Red Violin HBO-S 29
The Lesser Evil TMC 27
The Insider Encore 27,31
CYNTHIA BELLIVEAU:
The Hearst & Davies Affair TRUE 27
NICOLE DeBOER:
JFK: Reckless Youth TRUE 29
(w/ CEDRIC SMITH)
BRENDA BAZINET:
White Lies TRIO 27
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, GWDFC, G4
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y.......
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
San Luis Obispo, California -- at least for a while
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:11:01 -0700
From: Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Letters to TPTB!
--- Kristin <kris1228@s.......> wrote:
> Greetings everyone!
>
> Just to let you know, as already a part of KtK, I am now the new official
> KtK letter counter! I'm taking over where Rae left off and I am ready to
> start couting "fresh" letters to TPTB! :)
Big cheers for Kristin for taking over this remarkable task. You go girl!
Sunny
=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:53:11 -0700
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: VCR ALERT -- May Movies
Gee... if you're bored, you can always put them up on
the forkni-l@y....... calendar with reminders
to send out. :-)
And I got all of about 1.5 hours of sleep last
night... I'm a little slap-happy!!!
-Carla
--- Cheryl Hoffman <hoffman@p.......>
wrote:
> Well, here's what's on for the last week of May.
> The June List will be out
> sometime this weekend, still checking out the guide.
>
> As always, check your local listings for exact dates
> & times.
>
>
> NIGEL BENNETT:
> Darkman 3, Die Darkman, Die HBO-P 26
> Cinemax 26
> Degree of Guilt Lifetime 27
> Shattered Trust:Shari Karney LifeMovies 30,31
> The Skulls Starz 25,26
> Thanks of a Grateful Nation Show3 26
>
> JOHN KAPELOS:
> Man Trouble Encore 31
> Vibes HBO-P 31
>
> BEN BASS:
> Killer Among Friends TRUE 25
>
> CATHERINE DISHER:
> The Vindicator CineMax 27
>
> KRISTEN LEHMAN, EARL PASTKO, MICHAEL MCMANUS:
> Dog Park Starz 31
>
> SANDI ROSS:
> Down in the Delta Showtime 27
>
> VON FLORES:
> Renegades STARZ 29/30
>
> COLM FEORE:
> The Red Violin HBO-S 29
> The Lesser Evil TMC 27
> The Insider Encore 27,31
>
> CYNTHIA BELLIVEAU:
> The Hearst & Davies Affair TRUE 27
>
> NICOLE DeBOER:
> JFK: Reckless Youth TRUE 29
> (w/ CEDRIC SMITH)
>
> BRENDA BAZINET:
> White Lies TRIO 27
>
> Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin,
> NBN, GWDFC, G4
> "My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
> dayabaygal@y.......
> AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
> San Luis Obispo, California -- at least for
> a while
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