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FORKNI-L Digest - 1 May 2001 to 2 May 2001 (#2001-142)

Wed, 2 May 2001

There are 28 messages totalling 711 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. A word about FK....
  2. Vachon's Identity (7)
  3. Vachon and planes
  4. Belated Music Video praise
  5. music video (8)
  6. Tuesday Night KtK update
  7. FK Poetry Machine (2)
  8. Vachon's name (3)
  9. addy correction
 10. FK alumni
 11. music video; Suggestions on E-Mailing it to Someone Else
 12. Woo-hoo!

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 19:38:31 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: A word about FK....

> Kit:> How does everyone else pronounce the word "LaCroixian?"
>
La-cwah-zian

Barb

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 19:47:14 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Vachon's Identity

For some reason, I just started to wonder why Vachon was listed on the
passenger list in BB as "J D Valdez".  Was that the name he was using in his
current incarnation?  Or was he moving on, leaving the crew under a new name
so they couldn't trace him easily?  Why did he give his real name to Tracy?
Or is it his real name?  Why was he on the plane in the first place?
Couldn't he have just flown by himself?

Guess that's enough of the name game for now :-)

Barb

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 16:40:13 -0800
From:    Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon and planes

Tracy asked him that question--Vachon likes the engines' sounds and the
feel of takeoff.

Barbara Maitsuru Baka

Imagine a world where all the women are comfortable.
                                                   Maya Angelou

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 02:17:32 +0000
From:    "A." <fictionbyA@p.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

maybe he is a fan of colombian coffee :p

A.

Barbara Vainio wrote:
> For some reason, I just started to wonder why Vachon was listed on the
> passenger list in BB as "J D Valdez".  Was that the name he was using in his
> current incarnation?  Or was he moving on, leaving the crew under a new name
> so they couldn't trace him easily?  Why did he give his real name to Tracy?
> Or is it his real name

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 21:13:56 EDT
From:    Meliss9900@a.......
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

In a message dated 5/1/01 6:49:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
bevainio@w....... writes:

<< Why was he on the plane in the first place?
 Couldn't he have just flown by himself?>>

Urs answered that one.  He loved the sound of the engines.

 Barb >>


Melissa

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 19:43:15 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Belated Music Video praise

All right folks, I'm out of my natural habitat where I used to live in for
the past 4 months (that's right I'm back in Vancouver) and therefore I
don't have all my addresses. This should go to Eve but because of the
above mentioned reason I'm posting it on the list.

Eve, what a piece of art!!!!!! And I mean it times the number of
exclamation points Iíve put in front of it. Your video is extravagant,
especially that LK portion of it. You've done it better than the producers
of the show themselves. Makes me wonder how they would feel if they saw
this. I myself break into tears (for no explicable reason other than
perhaps loving those people so much) every time I see it. <:)

I have a few technical questions too: What software did you use for
editing? How did you get to overlap audio at some points (both the music
and the dialogues could be heard)? Did you capture the clips yourself or
did you get help from someone(I think I heard that Kristin was involved in
this too)?

All in all, GREEEEEEAT job!
Sunny


=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 20:49:26 -0700
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: music video

 I can not get the music video to work!
 First, it opened as a bunch of symbols and numbers, so I saved it to my
computer as a .wmv file... but when I tried to play it, it said the file
was incomplete or corrupted~ I tried downloading it and doing it over,
six times! (And yes, I did make sure I have the latest version of Windows
Media Player.)
 Now, I click on the link and a Lycos page opens and says the page I'm
searching for no longer exists!!
 Can someone just *email* me the video??  Please??

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
"Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell."

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 00:03:06 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

Barbara Vainio wrote:
<snip> For some reason, I just started to wonder why Vachon was listed on the
> > passenger list in BB as "J D Valdez".  Was that the name he was using in
> his current incarnation? <snip>

I assumed he was using a different name to lose The Inka. Also, the info Tracy
dug up on 'J.D. Valdez' was that he worked on an oil rig. The 'Valdez' seemed
a purposefully ironic choice.

<waves>

*****************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
  "Inside the cave. Outside the cave. Same world, different perspective."

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 00:40:04 EDT
From:    Knightwave@a.......
Subject: Tuesday Night KtK update

Here's Tuesday night's update.  Several fandoms are included this time around.
 Hopefully you'll find something that interests you.  The web sites with the
items listed are http://members.aol.com/ktkpage,
http://members.fortunecity.com/ktknight/auction.html, or you can link from
our main page http://www.ktk.op.nu/

Tuesday, midnight, April 30, 2001

new # 1    $ 35.00    Karen      Dance by the Light of the Moon script
    # 2    $ 10.00    Lorin      False Witness script

new # 4    $ 10.00    Karen      Dying For Fame script
new # 6    $ 30.00    Kathy      I Will Repay script
    # 7    $ 10.00    Lorin      Curiouser & Curiouser script
    # 8    $ 30.00    Lucifra    The Fix script

    #10    $ 20.00    Susan      Sentinel script "Blind Man's Bluff"
    #11    $ 20.00    Susan      Sentinel script "Cypher"
new #12    $110.00    Sunny      Prop -- Raven matchbook

    #14    $ 40.00    Cloud      Vachon T-shirt
    #15    $ 10.00    Desiree    FK music CD

new #20    $100.00    Lucifya    Prop - SoB cross
    #21    $  5.00    Desiree    Autographed Program book from play 'Art'

new #25    $ 70.00    Mary       Prop - Abarat Page

    #28    $ 25.00    Barb       Poster, Nigel's play 'Art'

new #30    $ 30.00    Lucifyra   Autographed Playbill on 'Art'
    #31    $ 10.00    Liz        Kung Fu book
    #32    $ 10.00    Liz        Dark Shadows book

new #36    $ 10.00    Lucifyra   KtK grab bag

If you see any mistakes, please let me know.  I'm sure I'll make at least one
before this auction is over.  <g>  We appreciate everyone participating in
our little auction.  You determine if we are able to meet our goal.  Thanks.
<g>

Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
knightwave@j.......

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Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 23:01:26 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: music video

> "K. C. Smith" wrote:
>  I can not get the music video to work!  <snip>

Having the current version of Windows Media Player didn't help me
either. I finally discovered that I had to download it while in Internet
Explorer. I normally use Netscape, but the video wouldn't work for me
using that browser to download.

--
Cloud         <clouddancer@h.......>
Vaquera, Incarnate, Lonely Heart & closet Night Haven
http://www.geocities.com/cloudworley/Clouddancer.html

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 00:48:39 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

> Bonnie Rutledge wrote:
> ...the info Tracy dug up on 'J.D. Valdez' was that he worked on an
> oil rig.

I know that Peter Martin, the father of the baby who survived the plane
crash, was an Alberta oil worker. Was the info Tracy dug up in the
Canadian version of Black Buddha?

--
Cloud         <clouddancer@h.......>
Vaquera, Incarnate, Lonely Heart & closet Night Haven
http://www.geocities.com/cloudworley/Clouddancer.html

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 00:56:13 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

> Barb V. wrote:
> Why did he give his real name to Tracy? Or is it his real name?

According to the Inca in Black Buddha 2, he met his death in 1531 at the
hands of a Spaniard named Javier Vachon. Whether that's the name Vachon
had in 1531 or if that's the name the Inca knew he was last using, is
open to speculation.

--
Cloud         <clouddancer@h.......>
Vaquera, Incarnate, Lonely Heart & closet Night Haven
http://www.geocities.com/cloudworley/Clouddancer.html

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 09:37:50 -0400
From:    Emma <elighton@b.......>
Subject: Re: FK Poetry Machine

Emily Hanson wrote:
>I was bored and wrote a short little program, to randomize 100
>FK-related words that could be used
>in a poem.  They're not moveable, but the concept is similar to
>Magnetic Poetry.
>Let me know if you like it.

I have no idea. Could people advertising their programs/videos/and
such please include a mention of platform limitations in the future?
Some of us out here don't do Windows. And it's kinda annoying to not
find out 'til after you've heard how great and wonderful something
is, that you're gonna be missing out. :(
Thanks,
--
elighton@b.......
Vaquera * DPheretic * T+Vpack * FKMac-er Head mouse clicker
Survivor of Wars 9+10
"Christianity is brought to you in part by Chevrolet"-A&E
http://members.tripod.com/~lostshadows/main.html

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 09:48:05 EDT
From:    Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: music video

In a message dated 5/2/01 3:52:41 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tigrlady2u@j.......
writes:

> Can someone just *email* me the video??  Please??

I am trying to do this for KC, it is taking Forever and a Knight to upload,
so I am hopeful that it will work!!

Forever Yours,

Billie-Lee

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 06:54:21 -0700
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: music video

 >I normally use Netscape, but the video wouldn't work for me
 >using that browser to download.

 Aha!  I'll try that... I use Netscape, as a general rule, so maybe that
is the problem.
 Thanks, Cloud!

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
"Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell."

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 07:09:55 -0700
From:    Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......>
Subject: Vachon's name

"Vachon" is a French name. Of course it's possible
that an ancestor came from a border region or moved to
Spain.

However, "Javier" is impossible as Vachon's original
first name. It's a Portuguese form, taken back into
Spanish, of the _surname_ of St. Francis Xavier. St.
Francis Xavier died in 1552 and was not canonized
until 1622. That means that his name was not available
as a saint's name for baptism of Catholic children
until 1622. Note that "Xavier" is a Basque surname
from a place name. Surnames as given names are unique
to the English-speaking countries. The only time you'd
find a surname used as a baptismal name in a
non-English-speaking country would be cases like
"Xavier," where the surname is part of a saint's name.

Probably he just likes the name Javier. Yes, yes, I
know this is a heavy layer of cheese and the reality
is that the producers didn't know or care, but hey,
serving cheese is fun. :)

Now, if we could explain why Tracy insisted on using
the Spanish h-sound for the J, but pronouncing the
second syllable as if "Javier" was a French name ...

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 07:12:22 -0700
From:    Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Poetry Machine

The information is right on the web page.  It is for PCs running Windows 98 or
higher.  Sorry if that wasn't clear.

http://www.geocities.com/hansone.geo/newfkfic.html

--- Emma <elighton@b.......> wrote:

> I have no idea. ...


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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 07:17:20 -0700
From:    Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: addy correction

Whoops.  Mis-typed that page addy.  Sorry!  It should be

http://www.geocities.com/hansone.geo/newfanfic.html

(My other fiction page is nonfkfic.html, I occasionally get them mixed up.)

Emily

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 10:03:27 -0500
From:    Barbara Aszman Stone <StoneB@g.......>
Subject: FK alumni

Last Sunday's _Nero Wolfe_ on A&E included Kari Machett (Nick's wife) and
Robert Bockstael (the guy Nick hung out the window) in the cast.  Since this
was a two-part episode, with the second half to be shown this coming Sunday,
there is a good chance that they will be on then, too. (Also, it is possible
that the Nero Wolfe program is re-broadcast during the week--I don't know.)
Be forwarned:
in this program, you are looking for a blond Bockstael and a brunette Machett.
        B. Stone
        stoneb@g.......

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 11:25:47 EDT
From:    Marel Darby <Frostsaint2@a.......>
Subject: Re: music video

 tigrlady2u@j....... writes:

>   Now, I click on the link and a Lycos page opens and says the page I'm
>  searching for no longer exists!!

Same here! Is it worth my while persevering, as I only have Media Player
6.4 -- the most-up-date that the update page will let me download ?

Marel

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 11:49:10 EDT
From:    Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: music video; Suggestions on E-Mailing it to Someone Else

WHEW!!!!!!

I just finished uploading the music video to KC......and if anyone is
thinking about sending it through e-mail, let me just tell you what I had to
go through <g> (of course, it could just be an AOL thing <argh!>).

It took a total of 5 tries to send it as a .zip file; I got booted off the
net several times.  The file transfer itself took about an hour and 15
minutes (all tolled it took about 2 hours to send what with getting booted
off and all!!).

I finally disabled my screensaver and anti-virus program, and then I was able
to send the file.  It could be just a coincidence that it went through then,
who knows!!

Thing is, I just finished sending it to KC, so I've no idea whether it is
even going to work for her or not.  Hope so!!

Off to work now, hope you all have a **great** day!!

Forever Yours,

Billie-Lee
mccelt2000@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 11:53:23 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon's Identity

Cloud wrote:

<snip>I know that Peter Martin, the father of the baby who survived the plane
> crash, was an Alberta oil worker. Was the info Tracy dug up in the
> Canadian version of Black Buddha?<snip>

Oops. No, there were only Canadian versions of 1st season. This was actually
my mistake, misattributing the background in my memory.

More cheese on the name - We have The Inka referring to him as 'Javier Vachon'
for the 1531 flashback, but it's not like these two characters spent time
introducing themselves and sharing background. It was run, snarl, and more
running.
Vachon spent 450+ years trying to avoid The Inka. I mean, unless he's Atahualpa
or Huscar Inka in disguise, and I don't see how that would work historically, a
certain someone's appropriate name isn't 'The Inka,' either. Vachon either
doesn't know what else to call him or doesn't care. Maybe The Inka was the same
way, calling him 'The Spaniard' for a few centuries before picking up the name
the V-man was using, the better to chase him down. This falls in with McLisa's
idea that Vachon assumed a name that he preferred to a birth name. He wouldn't
have been the first. *I* like the sound of 'Javier Vachon' better than 'J.D.
Valdez.'

<waves>

*****************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
Quechua Lesson #34: 'Millai urpi arequipa' = Filthy pigeon behind the volcano

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 09:56:14 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: music video

KC said:
>  Can someone just *email* me the video??  Please??

Me too!  THe darn thing won't play!
                  'Rose

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 12:01:28 -0400
From:    Brenda <bcammarata@h.......>
Subject: Re: music video

> Me too!  THe darn thing won't play!
>                   'Rose


And me, please.

Carpe Noctem,

Brenda
UCCelebration 2000, Wolfville 2000

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 10:58:35 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Woo-hoo!

I just received notice that my FK site, "A Little Forever Knight Fan
Fiction," (http://stormborn.tripod.com/ ) has been added to The Dark Side of
the Net (www.darklinks.com ).  This is quite an honor, as this site is a
virtual web encyclopedia of gothic/dark sites.  I'm thrilled!

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, FK Pagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 14:20:53 EDT
From:    Meliss9900@a.......
Subject: Re: Vachon's name

In a message dated 5/2/01 9:10:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
cecily1349@y....... writes:

<< Now, if we could explain why Tracy insisted on using
 the Spanish h-sound for the J, but pronouncing the
 second syllable as if "Javier" was a French name ... >>

Was that Tracy? I thought Urs used that particular pronunciation.

Tracy, as I recall, almost invariably called him  "Vachon".  The one time I
can remember her using Javier (Trophy Girl) she used a hard "r".  Ha-vee-are.

Melissa

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 14:24:04 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Vachon's name

In a message dated Wed, 2 May 2001  2:22:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Meliss9900@a....... writes:

<<Was that Tracy? I thought Urs used that particular pronunciation.>>

Pull out the cheese as it could very well be that both Tracy and Urs were
pronouncing his names using variations Screed might use. He'd known Vachon the
longest and probably used several variations depending on his mood just as he
sometimes used "V-man" or "Vachonetti."

Libs
**cheddar toasted on rye, please**

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Date:    Wed, 2 May 2001 14:57:10 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: music video

I know Windows Media 7 may not work on some computers. It takes a lot of
power to run and it is very different than the older versions, but the best
if you can get it.

Billy-Lee, if you can't get it to KC, I can send it to her.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> Same here! Is it worth my while persevering, as I only have Media Player
> 6.4 -- the most-up-date that the update page will let me download ?
>
> Marel
>

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