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FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Mar 2001 to 25 Mar 2001 (#2001-96)

Sun, 25 Mar 2001

There are 23 messages totalling 703 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Rasputin
  2. FK Wear (was Does it bother anyone else?)
  3. Animal Languages
  4. Possible book about FK
  5. Top Ten "There Oughta Be a Faction"
  6. New list member intro (4)
  7. WOW!
  8. Welcome, Eve! (6)
  9. Admin: Rules for the list (2)
 10. Admin: There are no stupid questions
 11. Klew-By-Four was (WOW!) (3)
 12. LaCroix and rotted fish sauce

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:10:07 -0800
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Rasputin

--- Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......> wrote:

> This is true.  My bro visited Russia for a while and came back singing parts
> of a popular song that went "Rah rah Rasputin, lover of the Russian Queen!"
> He explained that the song said that no matter how slimy or terrible
> Rasputin was made out to be, he somehow ended up in the arms of every lady
> in the court. <G>

Isn't that more evidence to indicate he was a Vampire?

<giggle> I realy like the idea.


=====
Countess -- Devoted Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:28:26 EST
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Wear (was Does it bother anyone else?)

In a message dated 3/24/01 1:03:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
portia1@m....... writes:

<< Any possibility of a FK Nightie?  (And, no -- I don't mean *that* nightie!
 "g")

 Portia, who loves her "Buffy" nightie....
  >>
Sure....why not.  Since I'm a designer/seamstress, there is too much pout of
my ability to make it.  Notify me off list and I'll see what I can do.

KnightWitch ;-]=


CaddyWhacker{first and foremost}, Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:30:58 -0600
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Animal Languages

Hi Y'all!

This is posted with McLisa's permission (Thanks Lisa!).

I've recently gone back to school to get my master's degree in Education.
 I'm taking a Linguistics course this semester and I'm doing a research
paper for my final.  The topic I'm researching is animal languages.  In
Blind Faith, Perry 's owner (argh, forgot her name) talks to him like any
of us talk to our animals but after Perry becomes a vamp, he appears to
comprehend human speech more.  I'd like to know if any of you animal
lovers/pet owners have had experiences *talking* to your animals or your
animals talking to you.  Would you send your experiences to me PRIVATELY
at eowyn3@j.......?  I'd really appreciate it.  I won't use names, just
the anecdotes if anyone is worried about being quoted in my paper.

BTW, I've learned that there is huge controversy between linguistic
"purists" and others about whether or not animals do in fact possess
"language."

McLisa has already sent me an experience which was exactly what I was
looking for. Thanks again Lisa!!!

Terri
eowyn3@j.......

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:24:40 -0500
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: Possible book about FK

Hi Desiree and FK list,

     I know that when you asked about a FK book that you may have meant
something else, but there was to be a book put out about FK and nothing has
come about from that.  I recently contacted Pat McGrew who was going to
print an unofficial book called "Secrets of the Knight."  I asked if I had
missed it, since I have not heard anything in months.  This was the reply I
just received a day ago.



>What you missed was the disappearance of the authors.  I'm sitting here
>with half a manuscript, a bunch of photos and permissions, and nothing
>else. I did ask several folks if they knew of anyone else who wanted to
>do a similar project. No takers.

>Pat
>e: mcgrew@mcgrewmcdaniel.com


Does anyone else know anything about this Forever Knight book and what the
hold up is?

Gwenn Musicante
https://www.angelfire.com/pa4/GwennM

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:33:16 -0800
From:    Tserisa <horridcow@h.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten "There Oughta Be a Faction"

From: <DanaKnight@a.......>

> Here's my favorite from the list.
>
> <<2.  Morgue Maniacs - akin to the CaddyWhacks, but devoted to Natalie's toys
> (including the caterpillar!)>>
>
> My being a Natpacker, Dark NatPacker, NNPacker, and Dark NNPacker might have
> a little something to do with it ;)
>
> Just think of all the cool toys in the morgue.

Hehe, well, the NickKnacks part of the CaddyWhack faction sort of covers all
the *stuff*.  Some of us are prop nuts. ;)  Like Schanke's duck lamp, or
LaCroix's sword pin.  And surely this covers all of Nat's doohickeys too.
*grins*

On the other hand, is there a faction for Grace and Nat?  Seems like a darn
good name for that. ;)  I must admit I have a fascination with forensic
pathology, coroners, and so on. :>  Discovery channel has some great shows
on it now.  :>

Cousin Tserisa and the Cousinly Critters
horridcow@h....... ** AIM: CousinTserisa
Cousin,  Ratpacker 8:>X  and  CaddyWhack
FK Stuff: http://geocities.com/tserisa/
CaddyWhacks: http://velvetdragon.com/caddy/

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Date:    Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:40:23 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: New list member intro

Ahem.

Greetings to all... let's see, what would be the best way to begin this? How
about:

Hi, my name is Eve, and I'm a Knightaholic. ;)

I've been watching since high school, not so very long ago at that, but I
never knew there was such an interesting and diverse network of fans within
reach. (Everyone I mention the show to looks at me askance and then says
something like, "Oh, right, with the vampires, didn't that used to be on at
like two in the morning?" if they recognize it at all.) Left to my own
devices, I've written fanfic of as-yet-indeterminate quality, since it
hasn't been beta-read by anyone familiar with the show; I also dabble in
watercolours so I've been working up a portrait of my favourite fair-haired
boy, Nicholas, just to pass the time. It's looking pretty impressionistic
right now, but I'm getting there. ;)

I've been lurking on this list for just over a week, long enough to
(over)hear some fun discussions and amass a wide variety of Roman food
trivia. *grin*

I've never been to a convention, I'm still not entirely clear on all the fan
affiliations, and I've barely scratched the surface of the fanfic, so if I
say something that's been said a million times or ask something that's so
preposterously stupid you just want to throw list hamsters at me, please
don't. That's all I ask, really.

I've just realized I start too many paragraphs with "I've". So that's enough
about me. ;)


Looking forward to getting to know you all,

Eve.

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:51:44 -0500
From:    Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: WOW!

I was in my local great big mall in my wonderful FK jacket I got... and I
actually had this teenager/college age kid come up and say, "Hey, isnt that
a show about a vampire cop?  What a great show! "

YAH!  If the PTB woudl only be hit upside the head with a clue stick!  they
have a whole new audience just WAITING for them out there!

--
Cecilia
Lady Ariadne--webmistress
http://www.wildbadgers.net
ICQ# 10820105
--

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:06:07 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Welcome, Eve!

We're always glad to have fresh blood on the list (feel free to groan; it's
a very old pun).

> Hi, my name is Eve, and I'm a Knightaholic. ;)

<visions of Feeding the Beast, one of my fav eps>

>>Left to my own devices, I've written fanfic of as-yet-indeterminate
quality, since it hasn't been beta-read by anyone familiar with the show<<

I've never had any of my stuff beta-read 'cause I'm too insecure.  I just
post it and accept whatever comments come my way--feedback is bliss!

>>so if I say something that's been said a million times or ask something
that's so preposterously stupid you just want to throw list hamsters at me,
please don't. That's all I ask, really.<<

We wouldn't, even if McLisa would let us, which she wouldn't.

I made my entry onto this list by wading into a discussion on the Middle
Ages in my typical loud, opinionated way. <wince>  I think most people have
forgiven me by now...I hope...

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, FK Pagan
NA Forever!
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q.......

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:21:45 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: Welcome, Eve!

Much thanks for the warm welcome, Storm. Glad to be aboard.

> <visions of Feeding the Beast, one of my fav eps>

Mine too. Of course they're all my faves at this point. Hence the "aholic"
part. I can't get enough. My family thinks that school-related stress has
finally caused me to go off the deep end, except for my mum, who finds
"Nicholas" (as she insists on calling him) quite attractive.

> I've never had any of my stuff beta-read 'cause I'm too insecure.  I just
> post it and accept whatever comments come my way--feedback is bliss!

I've posted one of my stories to the fanfic list, so I'm about to experience
the bliss for myself. I'm resisting the urge to make the old "Be gentle,
it's my first time" joke.

Also, if anyone wants to check out a preliminary sketch I did for the
painting I'm working on, you might just find it at

https://www.angelfire.com/mb/malecandra/images/nick_drawing.jpg

If you like it, great. If you don't, it's a first effort. I'll improve. I
hope. ;)

Eve, the as-yet-unaffiliated-but-open-to-recruitment :)

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Date:    Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:40:16 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Welcome, Eve!

>>Also, if anyone wants to check out a preliminary sketch I did for the
painting I'm working on, you might just find it at
https://www.angelfire.com/mb/malecandra/images/nick_drawing.jpg<<

Whoa Nellie!  Very, very good.

> Eve, the as-yet-unaffiliated-but-open-to-recruitment :)

Uh, oh...did you know we have a fanfic War coming up?  Trust me, you'll get
offers!

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, FK Pagan
NA Forever!
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:03:26 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: Welcome, Eve!

> Whoa Nellie!  Very, very good.

Thanks, I'm very, very susceptible to peer approval. ;) I did some celeb
portraits for a charity auction last year, two of my drawings fetched 80
bucks on eBay.

> Uh, oh...did you know we have a fanfic War coming up?  Trust me, you'll get
> offers!

This may be a loaded question, but... *with Tracy Vetter-esque innocence*
what's a fanfic war?

Eve.

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:06:07 EST
From:    Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@c.......>
Subject: Re: New list member intro

welcome Eve.  FK fandom is a wonderful place to keep the Knight alive.

Jeannie

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:27:09 EST
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: New list member intro

Hi Eve,
Welcome to the FK on line Community.  Glad to have you brought over.
Any questions you have, just jump in and ask.  There's always someone on line
to answer your query.  We done mind questions repeated as sometimes it sparks
a whole other line of thought.
Maybe you'll get to go to Lights, Camera, Auction Take 4 in Oct.  There you
can meet several FK fans along with having a great time.

KnightWitch ;-]=



CaddyWhacker {first and foremost}, Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:07:20 -0500
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Welcome, Eve!

Hey, Eve!  Welcome!  I strongly encourage advertising for a beta-reader --
they are so helpful.  There are some who can get by without, but it never
hurts to have someone (or 2 or more) go over your piece and see if they
catch anything.  Besides, it's so encouraging and takes away some of the
fear of that first "official" post!

Just my way o' thinking,
Portia

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:36:31 -0500
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: Welcome, Eve!

>Hi, my name is Eve, and I'm a Knightaholic. ;)


Welcome to the list Eve!  I am also a Knightaholic, but I don't want the
cure. <g>  Since you are a FK writer, you might want to take a look at the
current fan fiction awards that Nancy Kaminski is hosting at her site.
Voting will start soon, and there is still time to obtain a voter's ID.  The
Forever Knight fan fiction awards site for 2000 is;

http://www.nancykam.com/

Looking forward to your fan fiction, and more of your wonderful artwork.

Gwenn Musicante
https://www.angelfire.com/pa4/GwennM


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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:03:48 -0500
From:    mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Rules for the list

It was brought across in 1992,
Preyed on listers for their posts.
.... Here are the endless, forever rules.

McLisa

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"That will be trouble".
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mclisa@m.......


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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:18:17 -0500
From:    mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: There are no stupid questions

Eve writes:
>>>so if I say something that's been said a million times or ask something
that's so preposterously stupid you just want to throw list hamsters at me,
please don't. That's all I ask, really.<<

As Molly said, we don't throw listhamsters or use flamethrowers etc because
Don Fasig (the other listowner, the one who keeps the listserv software
under obedience <g> and I blow the whistle at that point.

Seriously, there are no stupid questions except the ones that haven't been
asked. Quite often someone -- sometimes me, will ask a question and be
surprised to find out how many other list members were wondering the same
thing. As for things that have been said before, yes, but that doesn't mean
it won't start new ideas and bring on a new discussion.

McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:38:04 +0600
From:    Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: Klew-By-Four was (WOW!)

On 24 Mar 2001,  Cecilia Long wrote:
> YAH!  If the PTB woudl only be hit upside the head with a clue stick!  they
> have a whole new audience just WAITING for them out there!

Where I work we call it a clue-by-four.  But I guess here we should call it a
Klew-By-Four.

L8r

Don  ----,-'<@
Argent@e.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:30:26 -0500
From:    Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: Rules for the list

I wait anxiously for Sundays now to see what you come up with for these... I
just wanted you to know that someone appreciates this!  LOL!

--
Cecilia
Lady Ariadne--webmistress
http://www.wildbadgers.net
ICQ# 10820105
--


It was brought across in 1992,
Preyed on listers for their posts.
.... Here are the endless, forever rules.

McLisa

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:48:30 -0800
From:    "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: Re: New list member intro

Hi Everyone:

I would like to add my welcome as well!  Believe
me, we always like to add new friends! <g>

As for the stories, I can't wait to read the
first one!  (I agree with Portia--having beta
readers look over a story is a good thing.)  And
as for the quality of the tales, I'm sure they'll
be great! :)

Thanks for sharing.  Looking forward to your
posts and stories!

Sincerely,

David

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:46:55 -0500
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix and rotted fish sauce

<snip> >GARUM (Liquamen)
>"Garum is the name of an extremely popular liquid. Garum is made from fish
>intestines and other parts of the fish that are otherwise thrown out.
><snip>

After that, a LC's present diet doesn't sound bad at all.

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:17:03 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: Klew-By-Four was (WOW!)

> Where I work we call it a clue-by-four.  But I guess here we should call
> it a Klew-By-Four.

This would be one of those times I need to ask a question. *grin* Is there
some significance to "klew" I'm missing, or is it just net-speak?

Eve.

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Date:    Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:14:58 -0600
From:    "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Klew-By-Four was (WOW!)

> Eve Dutton wrote:

> This would be one of those times I need to ask a question.
> *grin* Is there
> some significance to "klew" I'm missing, or is it just net-speak?

This is sort of an FK in-joke. Ger pronounces words with "clu" in them with a
sort of Canadian/Welsh sound, a very obvious "euww" sort of thing. Watch "Games
Vampires Play" for an ep that has lots of "clu" words. Ger knows we picked up on
this and sometimes plays it up at fan gatherings by dropping them into
conversation frequently. I know he did it a lot at one of the Gertherings--the
third one?---and got lots of laughs.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......

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