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FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Feb 2001 to 24 Feb 2001 (#2001-63)

Sat, 24 Feb 2001

There are 5 messages totalling 190 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Piercings + Vampires
  2. What a long, strange trip it's been...
  3. UPDATE: 2000 FK Fanfic Awards: Site Update
  4. Nick and body armor
  5. Piercings, Vampire Appearance, etc.


Date:    Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:39:25 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Piercings + Vampires

I've long felt that part of the vampire "adaptation" is that your
_external_ appearance, previous to conversion, must not change. That way
your new vamp status isn't completely obvious by things like disappearing
tattoos and scars, reappearing hair (Rogaine being a recent invention!), or
disappearing piercings (in ears or elsewhere). Although FK vamps may live
(nearly) forever, they do not grow younger in appearance after conversion
(Don Constantine & LC are prime examples) "Under the hood", so to speak, is
a different matter, with things like increased strength, speed, and healing
not being apparently obvious. If you're foolish enough to try to get
tattooed or pierced _after_ conversion, your body heals these new assaults
to the exterior...

Just my tuppence worth...

Your humble & obedient servant,


Date:    Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:42:13 -0600
From:    Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: Re: What a long, strange trip it's been...

Yeah!  Hooray for Molly's return!  Great to see ya, gal!

luscious lucius lover
"When you have a friend in the Nightcrawler, who needs enemies?"  LaCroix


Date:    Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:13:37 -0600
From:    "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: UPDATE: 2000 FK Fanfic Awards: Site Update

After discovering that MediaOne, my home ISP, doesn't support the web functions
needed to run the Fanfic Awards, I found a host elsewhere. I am pleased to
announce the new home of the 2000 FK Fanfic Awards:


The big advantage of the new site is the support of web forms. It is now easy
for you to register for a voter ID number, and to nominate stories for an award,
using the simple forms on the website. And they'll come in handy when it comes
time for the final ballot.

Voter ID Registration. . . . . .Open Now
Nominations: . . . . . . . . . . .Open now through March 15
Final Ballot Announced. . . . March 31
Final Voting. . . . . . . . . . . . .April 1 through April 30
Winners Announced. . . . . . .No later than May 30

If you haven't already done it, register for your voter ID number at
http://www.nancykam.com/voterid.htm. Then start nominating stories at

Thanks for your patience in getting this site up and running. Hopefully things
will go smoothly now.

Nancy Kaminski
Awards Administrator


Date:    Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:40:18 -0800
From:    Lady Ariake <lady_ariake@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and body armor

--- Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......> wrote:
> Medieval armor wasn't worn next to the skin. The
> wearer's shirt (a longer and looser garment than the
> modern kind) went under it. Someone with more recent
> SCA experience and/or a better memory than mine can
> probably go into more detail.

Under the armor (which, in the SCA, is made of plastic
for serious fighting but still pinches) there would be
heavy padded linen.  It's not comfortable, you sweat a
lot, but it does prevent chafing from the armor and
the straps used to keep it on.  Armor itself,
incidentally, protects from most cuts, but you still
get big-time bruises.

> OTOH, there are period accounts of men who tried to
> wear armor when not actually fighting in the hot
> middle-eastern sun during the Crusades and getting
> burned.
> Considering how blond he was, Nick in his crusader
> days must often have bourn a pronounced resemblance
> to a boilded lobster. :)

I have to wonder if Nick would be wearing "armor" per
se at all?  Which Crusade was he on?  In the first and
second, the average soldier was wearing mail over
padding with a surcoat over that.  Plus side being
it's easier to move in than armor and is actually more
effective in preventing cuts.  (If you've ever seen
the TV series "Crusades" with Terry Jones, which I
think A&E ran.)  In SCA, we make and wear it.  It's
really, really heavy and unpleasant in cool weather.
And no matter what kind of armor you're
wearing...well, let's just say Nick would have had a
certain metallic fragrance.

Jennifer (knowne in these new Middle Ages as Mara von
der Neise of the Kingdom of Atlantia.  I train to
fight, but I don't fight in tourneys because I'm 5'3
and a lot of the male knights are 6'+.  I don't like
those odds.)


Date:    Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:01:58 -0700
From:    Molly Schneider <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Piercings, Vampire Appearance, etc.

Ligeia wrote:

>> I've long felt that part of the vampire "adaptation" is that your _external_
appearance, previous to conversion, must not change.<<

Barbara Hambly posits (in her book, Those Who Hunt the Night), that vampirism
is a virus that mutates its host.  This is my viewpoint, too, and IMO accounts
for the fact that older vampires are stronger and harder to kill.

><snip> they do not grow younger in appearance after conversion

And some of them develop bald spots. <g><j/k>  Of course, neither Nick nor
LaCroix would really be as tall as the actors portraying them, either of them
might have bent or twisted limbs from inadequate diets, marks from disease,
imperfect teeth, etc.  But hey, it's television/fiction.  (And yes, I do
believe that classical and medieval medicine was actually pretty darned good)

Here's an interesting link I found:

ORB is the Online Reference Book for Medieval Studies; this page deals with the
'historical geography' of Brabant.

>>If you're foolish enough to try to get tattooed or pierced _after_ conversion,
your body heals these new assaults to the exterior...<<

Agreed, but I think the body would heal around the metal left in place, as it
does in humans.

> Your humble & obedient servant,

Wanna come over and clean my apartment? <g>

Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, FK Pagan, Forum Fanatic
Abnormally fond of dead guys

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