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FORKNI-L Digest - 17 Feb 2001 to 18 Feb 2001 (#2001-56)

Sun, 18 Feb 2001

There are 22 messages totalling 755 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Looking for another email addy
  2. War:  Where, oh where, is the GSS?
  3. Does anybody have...
  4. I'm looking for a good time... <not really, just a person.> ;) (2)
  5. WAR: Re: Rules aren't ready yet (2)
  6. WAR: Re  Rules aren't ready yet
  7. Who was that woman in the cow costume? (3)
  8. YKYBWTMFKW.... (2)
  9. Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick (7)
 10. War: Re: Who was that woman in the cow costume?
 11. ADMIN:  DIVORCE IS OFF TOPIC

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Date:    Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:21:08 -0800
From:    Gross <10648@t.......>
Subject: Looking for another email addy

I received a request from someone asking for some of my stories.  I've
written After Last Knight and others.The person writing wanted to read some
more of them. Not all made it to Mel's site. My computer crashed last week
and I lost the email address. All I remember of it was something like
risreal.  If you are out there, please email me back so I can send you those
stories! I haven't forgotten you, but can't reach you. Thanks a lot.

Karen G
10648@t.......

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:18:15 -0600
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: War:  Where, oh where, is the GSS?

Any of you guys from the GSS still out there?  Bob?  Anybody?  It wouldn't
feel like a proper War without you guys.



Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:13:44 -0800
From:    Sunny <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Does anybody have...

...a copy of the story "Hunger" by Cyndi Bayless
Overstreet? I saw an add for a fanzine called "Touch
of Forever" that had it but I don't think that fanzine
is available anymore. If you have a copy, would you
please send it to me?

Thanks a lot

Countess

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:29:11 EST
From:    Sing to Angels <Sng2angels@a.......>
Subject: I'm looking for a good time... <not really, just a person.> ;)

  I am looking for Nancy Kam. or her email addy which I lost. I was wondering
if she had my stories up on her site for this years awards or not cause I
don't have the URL. Please write me back if you see this Nancy. Thanks!

         Sing To Angels (Her Nunkiness)
 ****** A. Decidedly Gray Cousin, Vaquero, Detester of Perkiness wherever it
may lay, FoSiL, N&NPacker and Faithful (and just in case neither work out, a
secret Valentine) ******* "Isn't that strange, Your Nunkiness?" --Night Angel
   "Look for more than the naked eye can see, and sing the grief you find to
the angels above."

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:39:00 -0600
From:    "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: I'm looking for a good time... <not really, just a person.> ;)

I'm here. Please contact me offlist about your stories. I can't find the email
you sent me with their titles and URLs to put on the site.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forever Knight TV show
> [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
> Sing to Angels
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:29 PM
> To: FORKNI-L@l.......
> Subject: I'm looking for a good time... <not really, just a
> person.> ;)
>
>
>   I am looking for Nancy Kam. or her email addy which I lost. I was wondering
> if she had my stories up on her site for this years awards or not cause I
> don't have the URL. Please write me back if you see this Nancy. Thanks!
>
>          Sing To Angels (Her Nunkiness)
>  ****** A. Decidedly Gray Cousin, Vaquero, Detester of Perkiness wherever it
> may lay, FoSiL, N&NPacker and Faithful (and just in case neither work out, a
> secret Valentine) ******* "Isn't that strange, Your Nunkiness?" --Night Angel
>    "Look for more than the naked eye can see, and sing the grief you find to
> the angels above."

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:50:54 -0600
From:    Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: WAR: Re: Rules aren't ready yet

At 03:41 PM 2/17/01 -0500, mclisa wrote:

>...if you sign up to play ... you agree to be attacked and not to complain
>about it. There will be a PRIME DIRECTIVE which says no nastiness. That
>is, you can dump Cheez-Whiz all over people ... but you can't dump, say,
>the contents of Sydney's badly in need of changing cat box all over them.

I'm a little leery of casting a discouraging word here, but while I
appreciate the idea of trying to have no nastiness, I see a big problem
with deciding what constitutes nastiness.  One person's nastiness may just
be another person's friendly practical joke.  Granted, the cat box thing
would probably be seen as nastiness by most people, but there's a lot of
room between Cheez-Whiz and the contents of a cat box.

Case in point - Fan-fic fairy snot.  I would have been extremely
uncomfortable being attacked by that, but as far as I know, the people
involved had no problem with it at all.



Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:05:15 +1000
From:    "Alexander J. Braun" <TALIESYN@c.......>
Subject: WAR: Re  Rules aren't ready yet

    This is where faction leaders coordinate and work out what sort
    of practical jokes are done, though I remember one faction(who will
    remain nameless) did a very questionable make over to Janette which
    was against what Janette's faction agreed to in War10.
    We was allowed to get sweet revenge over that one by the Warmistress.


> I'm a little leery of casting a discouraging word here, but while I
> appreciate the idea of trying to have no nastiness, I see a big problem
> with deciding what constitutes nastiness.  One person's nastiness may just
> be another person's friendly practical joke.  Granted, the cat box thing
> would probably be seen as nastiness by most people, but there's a lot of
> room between Cheez-Whiz and the contents of a cat box.
>
> Bring 'em back alive!
> Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
> Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
> CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:23:42 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: WAR: Re: Rules aren't ready yet

Margie wrote:
<snip> Case in point - Fan-fic fairy snot.  I would have been extremely
> uncomfortable being attacked by that, but as far as I know, the people
> involved had no problem with it at all.<snip>

There's a good reason there wasn't a problem. The victim of the Fanfic
Fairies (The Merc Grand High Poobah) and the attackers (NunkAnon)
wrote the scenes together. There was plenty of communication, rather
than fervently planning each other's humiliation in our own corners.

It's like playground rules. It's one thing to dare other kids to jump
off the jungle gym. It's quite another to push them.

War's not really about getting the better of everyone else. It's
about being creative and having fun *together.*

And if that fails, pass out the Personal Tranquility Devices!

<waves>

*****************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
  "They're special vegetarian piranahs from Ecuador. I want to feed them
                          banana chips." - War 8

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:09:42 EST
From:    Julia Kocich <JKocich@a.......>
Subject: Who was that woman in the cow costume?

Lap:

> That was an extremely well written post, but wasn't it Cousin Cherri in the
>  cow costume?  I only ask because part of her retaliation at one point put me
>  in a beanie baby costume.

<blush> I may have once again exhibited the extent of my being
nominatively challenged. I honestly don't know if it was Jules
or Cherri, but I know it was a post that held up and was wonderful
to read, even though I wasn't on the lists yet during that War.

Best,
Julia
jkocich@a.......
UF list cobra

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Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:23:07 -0800
From:    Les GS <LoosCanN@s.......>
Subject: Re: Who was that woman in the cow costume?

At 12:09 AM 2/18/01 EST, Julia Kocich wrote:
>Lap:
>
>>That was an extremely well written post, but wasn't it Cousin Cherri in the
>>cow costume?  I only ask because part of her retaliation at one point put
>>me in a beanie baby costume.
>
><blush> I may have once again exhibited the extent of my being
>nominatively challenged. I honestly don't know if it was Jules
>or Cherri, but I know it was a post that held up and was wonderful
>to read, even though I wasn't on the lists yet during that War.

Jules in a cow costume..?  Great Ghu, no.  That was Cherri, of course.  I
know, 'cuz I handed Lacroix the honey to act as a lubricant to get the cow
head off hers.

Les
 Unnamed
  LoosCanN@s.......  ~ http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/looscann/ ~
UF UnFAQ - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1228/
     "The truth is rarely pure, and never simple." ~ Oscar Wilde

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:53:36 +0000
From:    "A." <fictionbyA@p.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

DanaKnight@a....... wrote:

> YKYBWTMFKW.... you're watching a show on the History Channel called "The
> Most" and they are doing something about a shrine in India where the sacred
> animal are rats. Thousands, tens of thousands rats hang around where they are
> cared for and worshipped. And you think about Screed, and how he'd love it
> there. But would he respect the religion? Would he sneak a few here and there
> figuring no one would miss them?
>
> Judy

You'd think if they were sacred rats then his tongue would get a bit
singed if he were to take a sip.

I am thinking about this too hard, aren't I?

Andrea

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:43:25 +0000
From:    "A." <fictionbyA@p.......>
Subject: Re: Who was that woman in the cow costume?

I thought it was Cherri Munoz (Moonuz! hehehe)

I seem to be scraping this off the memories in the back of my brain
though.  Could be wrong.

Andrea

Julia Kocich wrote:

> Lap:
>
>> That was an extremely well written post, but wasn't it Cousin Cherri in the
>>  cow costume?  I only ask because part of her retaliation at one point put me
>>  in a beanie baby costume.
>
> <blush> I may have once again exhibited the extent of my being
> nominatively challenged. I honestly don't know if it was Jules
> or Cherri, but I know it was a post that held up and was wonderful
> to read, even though I wasn't on the lists yet during that War.
>
> Best,
> Julia
> jkocich@a.......
> UF list cobra

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:28:41 -0500
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

At 02:13 PM 2/16/2001 -0700, Kyer wrote:

>KC asked what Nick would have been like as a teenager.
>Probably breaking the hearts of all the pre-Condemned Bimbo village
>brunettes and blondes. <g>

I dunno... he seemed like such an idealist in the QoH flashbacks. I can see
him having a bit of a shy side, might be spending a bit of time studying
with the local priests... Certainly, he would have had to learn weaponry,
horsemanship, defense , mediation, courtly manners, etc... Then again, he
probably wouldn't have had much time to himself with the duties he would
have been likely to have as a squire, and then a knight. He probably would
have been busy running errands for his lord and lady, caring for the
mounts, polishing lances, praying, etc.

I'm not sure, but I think a lot of marriages might have been arranged, and
it was at the earlier end of the period for "courtly love", so
heart-breaking wouldn't necessarily have come into the equation.



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:41:04 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: War: Re: Who was that woman in the cow costume?

Julia wrote:

<snip>> <blush> I may have once again exhibited the extent of my being
> nominatively challenged. I honestly don't know if it was Jules
> or Cherri, but I know it was a post that held up and was wonderful
> to read, even though I wasn't on the lists yet during that War.<snip>

It was Cherri in the suit, but as I recall, Jules did appear in that post.
Cousin Jules and Gehirn Karies wrote some stuff together that war, I believe,
so it's not a *major* short circuit in Julia's neurons <g>

One of my favorite war parts was from War 8, 'Vengeance Yells A Yee-Haw'
by Hunter D, where the alternate reality V-Man ties a bunch of Cousins'
shoelaces together then traps them in the camel hut of the Toronto zoo
while the Vaqs kidnap Cherri. I also really liked the section where they
dressed Cherri up like Minnie Pearl. <teehee>

And, of course, I always like Third Cousin Patt's bar fights.

<waves>

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Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
 "That's right - Eeek, the artist formerly known as Cousin Cherri." - War 8

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:18:57 EST
From:    Tammie Foley <X7xAngelx7x@a.......>
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

In a message dated 2/18/01 9:29:28 AM Mountain Standard Time,
webwarren@e....... writes:

<< I'm not sure, but I think a lot of marriages might have been arranged, and
 it was at the earlier end of the period for "courtly love", so
 heart-breaking wouldn't necessarily have come into the equation. >>


to clarify, ALL marages were arranged back then, espically for Christians.
They had a similar custom as orthadox jews meaning the couple often didn't
even see each other until the wedding.

Funny think about that is, when that happens in todays world, those couples
who dont even see each other until the cerimony (actually its after the
cerimony) hardly ever get divorced. <stands on her soap box> people today
give themselves a way out instead of working out problems. There is, in my
mind, no excuse for divorce. If you jump into marrage and wind up unhappy, I
think you deserve it. Marrige is a holy sacrament and no matter what religion
you are or lack there of, you take vows that are ment to be taken to heart.
if you arnt ready to live up to the "Love, honor, and cherish until death do
us part", you have NO business being married.

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:45:47 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

In a message dated 2/18/01 11:20:31 AM Central Standard Time,
X7xAngelx7x@a....... writes:

> There is, in my
>  mind, no excuse for divorce.
I'm sorry, but as a divorced person I see this as nothing more than a flame.
I do not believe in divorce, but it happens and sometimes for good reason.

Some people marry because they feel forced into it because that is what
society says young women should do - marry men.  Some people get married to
"prove" they are straight to themselves because society is so stuck in the
mud it can't recognized anything other than the love THEY say is right. Other
women and men are severely emotionally and physically abused. Are you saying
they should stay in a marriage until their spouse beats them so severely they
end up in the hospital in emergency surgery (this did not happen to me but it
did a co-worker).... I'm tempted to go on, but I think I've proved my point.
Do NOT flame those of us who are divorced until you have walked a mile in our
shoes.

No, I had no business being married, which is why I got a divorce. Or rather,
HE left ME and we are both much happier for it (and still friends, by the
way). I don't even want to think about how unhappy I'd been if REALLY forced
into it by an arranged marriage.

To put this on topic, that's like saying everyone here should just admit Nick
needs to stay a vampire because he was made a vampire.  He jumped into the
decision that night, so should live with it.

Although I, personally, think he should surrender to his nature, I love
reading fic and opinions otherwise. That's just my personal opinion.

Libby

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:16:47 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

Tammie wrote:

<snip>There is, in my mind, no excuse for divorce. If you jump into marrage and
wind up unhappy, I think you deserve it.<snip>

I can think of plenty of excuses for divorce: violence, adultery, abuse, addiction,
molestation, other assorted felonies...I could go on and on...
I don't feel anyone deserves to be unhappy, and there are some things that
people just can't foresee when they enter into a marriage. Humans are imperfect,
and they don't always make the wisest decisions. I don't think they should
be punished for that for the rest of their lives.

This idea of breaking a holy sacrament and deserving any suffering you get for
choices naturally makes me think of Nick. Becoming a vampire revoked any holy
vows he'd made as a crusader in the name of his church. By breaking that faith,
who here thinks he deserves his unhappiness later on? By jumping into
his 'bad beer decision' without knowing the full picture, does that mean he's
earned his angst? Is this an argument that Nick should grin and bear being
a vampire, that he should stop looking for his way out, stop his quest for
mortality, and work out his problems with his eternal coil instead?

<waves>

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Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
"I bought Powerpuff Girls cereal at the grocery store today. I feel, somehow,
                               unredeemable."

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:24:41 EST
From:    Tammie Foley <X7xAngelx7x@a.......>
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

I ment no offense. My point being in today's society, people do marry for the
wrong reasons and as a cynic, I have to include love as being a wrong reason.
Certianly its great if you are in love but it cant be the soul factor in a
sucessful marriage.

As for woman who are beaten, in studying psycology, men (and sometimes woman)
dont become beaters after their marriage. I think if woman would stop seeing
themselves as victums and take their time, they'd relize men like that are
scum bags before they go down the isle.

My basic point was people rush into things before they know what their
getting into and they have to face the consequences. There are extreme cases
like with battering husbands and such....but in general, people get a divorce
the first sign of trouble. If you arnt ready for a life long promise before
god, your family and your country (because you are legally married by the
USA..at least here you are) then dont make it!

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:49:00 EST
From:    BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

<<<  There is, in my mind, no excuse for divorce. If you jump into marrage
and wind up unhappy, I think you deserve it.  >>>

My, isn't that an incredibly offensive, unrealistic, and idealistic thing to
say.  As Bons said, humans are imperfect.  Things happen.  I am a legal
assistant to a divorce attorney.  I can honestly say that the huge majority
of our clients, both men and women, had *extremely* good reasons to get
divorced...alcoholism the other spouse refuses to treat; drug addiction the
other spouse refuses to treat; sexual abuse of their own children; geez, one
person was having sex with *animals*, lots of animals like dogs, chickens and
even a turtle (I do *NOT* want to know how this happened).  Tell me, how do
you "work out" that???  Most of these couples were perfectly happy for many
years, and then suddenly one started drinking too much, or doing drugs or
whatever.  That's not jumping into anything.  That's just human
nature...people change.

<<<  As for woman who are beaten, in studying psycology, men (and sometimes
woman) dont become beaters after their marriage.  >>>

Study all you want.  From 12 years of doing divorces every day, I can
absolutely guarantee you that men and women *DO* become beaters after their
marriage.  Very few of our clients were abused or witnessed abusive behavior
by their spouses before they were married.

Back on topic, I agree with Libby that this topic correlates to Nick's quest
to become human again.  He was seduced into a quick decision and now regrets
it.  Just because he was foolish in his decision making doesn't mean he
should have to live with it ("work it out").  When a person or a vampire <G>
makes a mistake, they *try to correct it*.  They don't just go on living with
it and saying, "Well I was dumb once, so I should suffer for it the rest of
my life."  Mistakes don't have to be punishable by eternal damnation, which
is what Nick seems to view vampirism as.  (Personally, I'm a DK, so I think
he should say, "This wasn't a mistake, this is great!" and get on with
enjoying life, but that's another topic. <G>)

Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating.  I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love.  (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
 (paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:39:46 -0500
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Medieval Teeny-Bopper Nick

At 12:18 PM 2/18/2001 -0500, Tammie Foley wrote:

>Funny think about that is, when that happens in todays world, those couples
>who dont even see each other until the cerimony (actually its after the
>cerimony) hardly ever get divorced. <stands on her soap box> people today
>give themselves a way out instead of working out problems.

A couple of things here... Tammie, you don't state whether you are or are
not from a culture and family in which marriages have been arranged into
the mid-20th Century or later.  Some of my not-so-distant family does, and
has had stories to tell about it...

First, culture of arranged marriage gains its acceptability from its
children growing up and *expecting* that their parents, grandparents, or
extended family will choose mates for them, and that they will have to
spend the rest of their lives in that marriage, and make the best of it.
They do not search for, nor do they expect to find, romantic love; the love
between spouses is a love borne of respect for each other, respect for
their common Deity and religion, respect for their families, and a mutual
trust and interdependence that grows deeper over time. It rarely works in a
culture in which eligible people grow up expecting to have free choice of
whom to mate; when it does, it requires a significant psychological shift.

Second, a culture of arranged marriage *cannot* survive without strong
extended-family support and/or extended community support. This isn't
necessarily the psychological support of "yeah, I understand, but there's
no choice to be had in this matter." On the part of the bride, it's more
often the support of "What did you do to provoke him?" or "It's what men
do; think of what would happen if you *didn't* have a husband? Who would
provide for you? Where would you stay?" etc.  (One of my Sephardic
great-great-grandmothers was married at 11, but didn't start having
children until she was 21, because she was afraid of her husband, who beat
her.) On the part of the groom, there is family pressure to keep him from
wandering... even across the globe. (My father's sister notes that some of
her maternal grandparents' older family members came to the U.S. from
abroad because my great-grandfather didn't send for my great-grandmother
and the kids in three months as he'd promised, and there was rumor that he
was shacking up with someone. They made him leave his mistress and return
to my great-grandmother, and kept him in line -- even though he and my
great-grandmother were in the U.S. and most of the rest of the family was
in Europe.)

On the other hand, both the spouses (separately) and their families
frequently have redress if certain of the terms of the contract (and yes,
it is a legal contract) are breached or are unfulfilled -- and sometimes
this redress *does* mean divorce. For example, under Jewish law, a Beth Din
(court of Rabbis) can force a divorce after a period of time if the wife or
her parents can prove that her husband beats her or refuses to give her the
right or opportunity to bear his children. (One of my Scout leaders was
granted a divorce after ten years because her first husband didn't want
children; my great-great-grandparents forced the divorce of one of my
great-grand-aunts because her husband  constantly beat her and endangered
both her life and the lives of her children.) IIRC, one of Mom's Roman
Catholic friends got a church divorce because her husband was abusive, and
because he was adulterous.

Mind you, a family that cares about their children either already knows, or
will research, any family with whom it is considering allying through
matrriage... and if the arrangement is made when the children are of
marriageable age, will research the individual to whom it hopes to betrothe
its child. In this way, a child can have a certain confidence that he or
she is not being thrown completely "to the wolves". On the other hand, if
the arrangement is made before one or both spouses are born (the
arrangement for that philandering great-grandfather of mine to marry my
great-grandmother was made between their mothers while they were pregnant
with these individuals), there is only your faith in your parents and your
Deity that a poor decision has not been made for you...

>There is, in my mind, no excuse for divorce. If you jump into marrage and
>wind up unhappy, I think you deserve it.

What about those people who are married off to people they don't even know,
who don't have a say-so in the matter, and who wind up unhappy? Those who
*don't* have a Beth Din that will hear their arguments (as has happened on
more than one occasion in the various Chassidic communities)? Do they
"deserve it"?

>Marrige is a holy sacrament and no matter what religion
>you are or lack there of, you take vows that are ment to be taken to heart.

You are signing a legal contract, which may or may not have a theological
counterpart.

>if you arnt ready to live up to the "Love, honor, and cherish until death do
>us part", you have NO business being married.

(1) Not all religions and cultures believe in "'til death you do part".
Some believe in trial marriages of a year before they will bind spouses for
life; others believe only "so long as love shall live". You must do for
yourself as your conscience and morals dictate.

(2) In today's world, I would expect it to be legally difficult, at best,
to enforce a "lifelong" contract...



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:39:09 +0600
From:    Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: ADMIN:  DIVORCE IS OFF TOPIC

The ethics, exigencies and events of divorce, along with the
justifications or recriminations of same, are off topic.

If you can find a Forever Knight episode or FanFic where a divorce is a
significant event, then you may discuss the circumstances of that
divorce in that context.

It is not on topic to spend part of a message discussing divorce and
then finish with FK related comments.  Leave out the parts that are not
on topic for this list.

A flame is a personal attack on a person or group of people that are
specifically identified.  This discussion has come perilously close to
flaming.  It needs to stop - NOW.

Don Fasig, FK List Gardener
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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:33:28 -0500
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

> You'd think if they were sacred rats then his tongue would get a bit
> singed if he were to take a sip.
> I am thinking about this too hard, aren't I?
> Andrea

LOL!  Maybe it's a bit like having Tabasco sauce on his rat -- adds a tasty
zing? "g"

Portia

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