FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Feb 2001 to 16 Feb 2001 (#2001-54)
Fri, 16 Feb 2001
There are 24 messages totalling 708 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. More Additions to the Faction List (3)
2. Blood Money flashback (4)
3. Blood Money
4. fk alumni or YYBWTMFK (3)
5. Admin: What's a War, Mommy? :) (4)
6. Hello, I'm new! (4)
7. Perugina!
8. Admin: temporary hold-off on war (2)
9. YKYB...
10. Knighties at War?
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:35:08 -0000
From: "Mildred G. Cady" <mgcady@h.......>
Subject: Re: More Additions to the Faction List
Some additions to Brenda's additions to McLisa's list (** are my additions):
Knighties, Dark Knighties, Cousins, Light Cousins,
Nunkies Anonymous, Perks, Dark Perks, FoSiLs (Friends of Sidney Lambert),
Incarnates, Urchins, Stonetree-ites, Cohen-heads, Reese's Pieces, Woof Pack,
Mikkies, CaddyWhacks, Nick and Natpackers, Unnamed Faction, CerkPerks,
Immortal Beloveds, Unholy Trinity, Valentines, Dark Trinity, Unholy
Alliance, Les Miserables, RoGues, Pit of Condemned Bimbos Survivalists,
Rainbow Knights, Virtual Knights, Knights of the Cross, Pagan Knights,
Celtic Glow Worms, Tequila Friends
**Ravens/ettes-- Jeanette
**Vanquers/as-- Vachon
**Die-Hards-- Basically, Independants- they like all the characters and
don't wish to chose one over the others.
**Mercs- like Die-Hards, but realized that they could profit from War,
usually in chocolate
**Ratpack- Screed. However, for Wars they team up with the Mercs- an
appropriate and sensible combination
**Lurkers- those people who lurk around the list and stay in the shadows
**Mortal Siblings- Nick and Fleur (his mortal sister)
**Fleurettes- Fleur
**I know there's a Fleur + Lacroix relationship faction, but I don't know
the name off-hand
**GGS (General's Secret Service) Lacroix as Roman General, military type
faction
**Nick's Harem
**Nothers- Believe that Nat should have a great relationship, with anyone
but Nick!
**FoDs- Friends of Don (Schanke)- Great Cooks, and own the Happy Slovaki
(spelling?), the best caterers and place to eat in the FK fanfic universe
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:09:21 -0800
From: Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......>
Subject: Blood Money flashback
on 2/15/01 2:00 PM, Kyer wrote:
> According to Amy R.'s Flashback Timeline, that would be 1790 France.
From the clothes, that's 150 years too late, but I can see why she thinks
that - the only Dauphin that did actually go missing was during the French
revolution, the poor little guy (only a child at the time) was imprisoned
after his parents were killed, and was said to have died in prison. For the
last couple of centuries people have claimed that he was spirited out of
prison by loyalists, and some other poor innocent child died in hideous
conditions in his place. However, recent DNA tests on the remains of the
one that died in prison seem to indicate that he was indeed the Dauphin, and
died around the age of 12.
However, this is a known missing Dauphin around the time of the revolution
or not long after, hence Amy R.'s date (I bet - I haven't asked her).
But it still doesn't work, because the Dauphin in the story was set up as a
parallel to Sean duChamp - he wanted money from his father (the king), and
when his father wouldn't give him any, he tried to extort it by having
himself 'kidnapped', with the intention of keeping most of the ransom money
for himself. But then Nick and the other baddie killed him and kept it for
themselves, etc etc.
Presumably the "blood money" isn't weighing Nick down yet because he just
got it that instant.
That flashback was weird all round, though. LaCroix warning Nick that
"material wealth is a curse" - this is LaCroix? Whom I've never thought
short of a few dollars... And then it begins with LaCroix & Janette dropping
a ragged corpse into a grave (or something) and complaining about 'the
quality of the prey around here lately' and what they've been reduced to,
and that it's time to move on. But I thought a) vampires routinely prey on
the poor and homeless, so there would be nothing exceptional in the ragged
corpse they'd just murdered, and b) vampires try to avoid exposure, and
therefore generally avoid killing people who would be missed, i.e. rich
people, members of the ruling class?
K
--
Klytaimnestra lbowman@c.......
Fanfiction at http://members.home.net/lbowman
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:33:15 -0600
From: "B. Stone" <STONEB@g.......>
Subject: Blood Money
Klytaimnestra asked who played the bad guy in Blood Money.
It was Colm Feore, who also played Nick's cohort in the flashback whom Nick
later betrayed. Feore asked not to be credited --it had something to do
with the ridiculousness of the circumstance of his appearing on poor,
low-budget FK (correct me if I have some of this wrong): 1) GWD
picked him up at the airport and put him up at his own home 2) CF
brought along his Cyrano de Bergerac costume, wig, and facial hair to
wear in the flashback. How much of this was actually due to budget & how much
had to do with the fact that GWD & CF are good friends who have often appeared
on stage together, I do not know.
B. Stone
stoneb@g.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:27:30 -0500
From: Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: fk alumni or YYBWTMFK
Lucia Nicolau wrote:
<snip> Sorry to bring it up after a week or so, but i didn t remember seeing this
> series, called "Rag and Bone" mentioned anywhere on the list. Who knows,
> maybe someone does get the m6 channel.<snip>
IIRC, 'Rag and Bone' was a series pilot that CBS considered, but didn't
pick up around 1998. This is the first I've heard of anyone actually getting
to see it broadcast - Kewl!
In terms of other work, there's 'Voyagers!' a JP series that lasted for one
season on NBC in 1982. Yes, this predates FK, but I've seen several mentions
of it on TV in the past year because the lead actor, Jon-Erik Hexum, died in
1984 in a some-say-mysterious prop accident. In some ways, the series was
FK-With-Training-Wheels.
I was only 11 when I watched it (still have my Scholastic Reader copy of
the pilot!), but I'd have been on a mailing list for the show lickety split
if PCs and the Internet had been in wide use back then.
The show didn't have vampires, but there's...
- The Blond haired, blue eyed lead was played by an actor with three names
- A lost boy character with long, dark curly hair
- A Battle of Hastings fiasco
- An Ancient Roman episode
- The main guy who torments the hero winds up responsible for Jack the Ripper
- bimbos of the week
- Phineas Bogg (lead character) was on the Titanic.
- Phineas Bogg was a brick.
- The show was all flashbacks.
- One episode features a DaVinci painting
- In one epsiode, the dark-haired lost boy catches a virus and the blond-haired,
blue-eyed hero gets the cure just in time!
What's sad is that *this* has a video you can purchase, albeit a poorly
edited version of the pilot meshed in with other episode material,
but you can BUY it. I paid $40 for the thing through Amazon.com
and the show's been gone almost 20 years! Hello?! The market for
FK videos swamps this! There are probably more fans on this one
list than even remember 'Voyagers!' existed, but those fans have a video!
<waves>
*****************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
"History's going to change because you couldn't control your lousy dog!"
"Bat's breath!" - Phineas Bogg, 'Voyagers!'
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:35:01 -0800
From: Cousin Tser <horridcow@h.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a War, Mommy? :)
> Lisa Luksus spoke thusly:
> I think one of my favorites was from War 8. One of the AU Nick's showed up
> in a superhero outfit (IIRC) and announced "'Tis I -- Brickman!" (Or
> something to that effect.) Had me mopping Diet Coke off my monitor. I
> believe War 8 had more than its fair share of soda-spewing moments.
*giggles insanely*... that was by Berg, I think he was a Merc?...
"Come, Boy Wonder, I, Brickman, must leave for Toronto this very night, and
I need your help!"
*scours the archive for it* Ah ha!
http://www.fkfanfic.com/war/war8/posts/0068.txt
I learned early never to drink around my poor computer when reading Wars (or
other similar fics, like the NA offerings). Too many keyboards ruined, not
enough thirsts quenched.... And War 8 certainly had it's larger than
average collection of War insanity... vampires appearing in bathtubs and
fridges and everywhere else, carouches going after pet guinea pigs, Alice in
Wonderland, Screeds in tutus, Schanke ala Wild West, penguins and long
haired Vachon-fishes.... (And this I cut my teeth on. Of course, I didn't
have too much to offer in the way of *humor*....)
Favorite War moment? Could never ever decide. :>
It's correct that Wars 9 and 10 aren't archived? Or have I just yet to find
the links?
Cousin Tserisa and the Cousinly Critters
horridcow@h....... ** AIM: CousinTserisa
Cousin, Ratpacker 8:>X and CaddyWhack
FK Stuff: http://geocities.com/tserisa/
CaddyWhacks: http://velvetdragon.com/caddy/
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:48:30 +1100
From: Cebalo Jason <jason_andrew_cebalo@y.......>
Subject: Re: More Additions to the Faction List
--- "Mildred G. Cady" <mgcady@h.......> wrote:
> > **I know there's a Fleur + Lacroix relationship
> faction, but I don't know
> the name off-hand
>
I believe it's "Faithfuls"
Jason Cebalo
Ravanette, Dark Knighty, Immortal Beloved
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:11:34 -0800
From: Sunny Maghs <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Hello, I'm new!
Hello everyone!
I'm new to this list (But I believe Kyer already knows
me :) I can’t believe I never joined this list before
since I'm a huge fan and now I'm here just as a war is
starting to brew. I so much wanted to see one, I
thought nobody played those anymore.
Anyway glad to be with you. I don't think I'll join
this time since I'm currently hosting my own mini war
on SciFi channels bboard, plus writing my first FK
novel, but I'll keep a close watch to see how it's
done and join the next one.
Love you all
Countess—Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark
Trinity, with a sprinkle of unnamed
=====
"It takes a minute to have a crush on someone,
an hour to like someone
and a day to love someone-
but it takes a lifetime to forget someone."
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:36:21 -0500
From: Bean <tinabean@t.......>
Subject: Re: More Additions to the Faction List
Are the Diviants still around? Ive been away for a bit.
CousinBean
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Randal: Which did you like better? "Jedi" or "The Empire Strikes Back"?
Dante Hicks: "Empire".
Randal: Blasphemy!
Dante Hicks: "Empire" had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut
off, findsout Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett.
It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down
endings. All "Jedi" had was a bunch of Muppets.
---Clerks
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:14:15 -0500
From: Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money flashback
Portia trying to rationalize the "dauphin" reference (and believe me -- I'm
willing to strain pretty far to find a rationalization! "g"): whichever era
it was, Nick *did* kill the dauphin of the time and poor LaCroix had to work
*pretty* hard to cover up his boy's mess! Let's see...hmmm.....He whammied
everyone into thinking the guy was still alive, but "just in the other room"
or "taking a 'powder break'" or "not yet back from vacation" -- a perpetual
"out of sight" person! "g" Or they worked it out to make everyone think it
was a "natural" death, and the kidnapping was "forgotten" and so left out of
history. Or some poor (lucky?) schmuck (along with the other releveant
people) was induced into believing himself the dauphin and had a long and
lustrious(? "g") reign.
Okay, that's enough -- my rationalizer is getting sore! LOL
Portia
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:26:52 -0500
From: Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: fk alumni or YYBWTMFK
! Hello?! The market for
> FK videos swamps this! There are probably more fans on this one
> list than even remember 'Voyagers!' existed, but those fans have a video!
> Bonnie Rutledge
Hello, back at ya, Bonnie! I remember this show, and I totally agree with
everything you said! BTW, read your SandTC crossover with FK and LOVED it!
Anything else new going on at your site? I need to visit -- I'm eagerly
awaiting the next in the "Claire" series. Gotta find out what's gonna
happen with Ivy and Vachon, and Nick and Nat. Loved where you left LaCroix
and Nick -- rather uncomfortable, but intriguing point in their
relationship!
Portia
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:02:53 -0800
From: Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a War, Mommy? :)
> Cousin Tser wrote:
> It's correct that Wars 9 and 10 aren't archived? Or have I just yet
> to find the links?
The following are the War links that I've found:
Wars 1-4 are at the fkfanfic site
http://www.fkfanfic.com/fanfic/wars.htm
War 5
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~weyrbrat/war5/
War 6 was a letter writing campaign to TPTB
War 7 (the Vaq part) used to be on the Church site, but the link is
dead. (Callalily?)
http://users.lanminds.com/~callalily/forever_knight/fkwar7.html
War 8 is in a different section of fkfanfic
http://www.fkfanfic.com/war/war8/index.htm
War 9 courtesy of the List Gardener
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/war9ldrs.htm#war9_archives
War 10 is in one big 5MB chunk at the ftp site
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/war_10/
If anyone knows where I can find a live link for War 7, please let me
know.
--
Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Vaquera, Incarnate, Lonely Heart & closet Night Haven
http://www.geocities.com/cloudworley/Clouddancer.html
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 12:39:06 +0000
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm new!
Welcome Sunny
Jeannie
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:29:19 +0200
From: Lucia Nicolau <lnicolau@p.......>
Subject: Re: fk alumni or YYBWTMFK
I know not everybody agrees, but at this stage i' d probably take even
Fk -With - Cane. As long as it is the same series. And mostly the same
actors.
I m still hoping that maybe 20 years from now i can get my - yet
non-existant -kids to watch FK on tape, DVD or whatever the new medium for
movies and series. But i don't "want" to wait that long....
Hey, Sony, please do something for the next generation !
waving
lucie, going on vacation for a few days
lnicolau@p.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:47:45 -0800
From: Cousin Tser <horridcow@h.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a War, Mommy? :)
Cloud (clouddancer@h.......) spoke thusly:
> The following are the War links that I've found:
> *snippers of link list*
So they were just hiding from me! Thanks. :> Although that chunk o' ten is
going to be ponderous to wade through. ;)
Cousin Tserisa and the Cousinly Critters
horridcow@h....... ** AIM: CousinTserisa
Cousin, Ratpacker 8:>X and CaddyWhack
FK Stuff: http://geocities.com/tserisa/
CaddyWhacks: http://velvetdragon.com/caddy/
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:54:01 -0500
From: g4akl@c.......
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a War, Mommy? :)
Several people have added to the list of factions given in
McLisa's original post, but what should be reiterated and
a war newbie should know is that NOT ALL of these factions
participate in the wars. Many of the smaller 'relationship
factions' or 'factions based on personal interests' have too
few members to play or their members have multi-affiliations
and may choose to play with their other, bigger factions.
The list of factions that played in war 10 could provide a first guess
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Lot/9686/index_factions.html
about who might or might not be playing this time.
At 09:02 PM 2/15/01 -0800, Cloud wrote:
>If anyone knows where I can find a live link for War 7, please let me
>know.
War 7 had major timeline problems which would make it a(k)nightmare for
someone to compile into a semblance of order and I've never heard
of it being accomplished (correct me if I'm wrong).
Arletta Asbury
Light Cousin leader who's currently seeking vict... er ...
make it volunteers for the war <g>
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:57:01 EST
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm new!
Hi Sunny,
Welcome to our Forever Knight on-line Family.
KnightWitch ;-]=
CaddyWhacker[first and foremost], Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:38:26 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm new!
I'm new to this list (But I believe Kyer already knows me :) I can't believe
I never joined this list before since I'm a huge fan <snip>
I'd wondered about that myself! <g>
Welcome, Countess! Always a pleasure to have another Twilight Knightie
roaming the castle grounds.
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
All-Around Loveably Angsty Nick-with-Fangs enthusiast.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:42:33 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money flashback
> Portia trying to rationalize the "dauphin" reference (and believe me -- I'm
> willing to strain pretty far to find a rationalization! "g
Is it possible the reference was only a sarcastic joke?
Maybe the kidnapped person just *acted* like he was one?
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:25:03 EST
From: Enid Rodriguez <LadyEnid512@a.......>
Subject: Perugina!
Greetings all:
This past Valentine's Day I was nibbling on Perugina's
chocolate covered hazelnuts, when I noticed some writing on
the tiny foil wrapper....
"Le baiser aime le bleu: il prefere la nuit."
Translation: Kisses are fond of blue -- they prefer the night.
I think Nicky got into my chocolates before I did! <g>
--Enid Rodriguez
ladyenid512@a.......
"Nothing gives a fearful person more control and power than another's fear.
Therefore, fear is one thing you won't get from me."
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:57:57 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: temporary hold-off on war
I'm sick. This is the first time I've felt like logging on in three days.
I'll let you know when I"m back and caught up. In the meantime, I'm not
ignoring you. I'm just sick.
McLisa, whose cold has turned into bronchitis
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:21:08 -0800
From: "Kelly C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: temporary hold-off on war
Feel better listmommy! We love you! @--->----
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:25:31 -0800
From: "Kelly C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: YKYB...
You Know You've Been Too Involved in FK (is that possible?) When...
I told my husband that I had to reply to a special email message on the
list and he said, "I'll reply for you: Vampires suck!"
To which my teenager replied: "Literally!"
Ack! The things a person has to put up with...
What do you think Nick was like as a teenager?
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:29:27 -0500
From: Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money flashback
>>Is it possible the reference was only a sarcastic joke?
Maybe the kidnapped person just *acted* like he was one?
Kyer, kyer@p.......<<
Oooh! Kyer must have the advanced Rationalizer(tm) model! Good thinking and
interesting idea, Splintered One!
Portia
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:13:57 -0700
From: KYER <KYER@p.......>
Subject: Knighties at War?
Will the return of War mean that the Knighties will bring back their
webpage? (Kyer may be CotK, but she's Cot**K** and thinks it obscene that
the main Nicholas faction does not have a webpage.)
KC asked what Nick would have been like as a teenager.
Probably breaking the hearts of all the pre-Condemned Bimbo village
brunettes and blondes. <g>
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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