FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 12 Feb 2001 to 13 Feb 2001 (#2001-51)
Tue, 13 Feb 2001
There are 27 messages totalling 937 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. WAR: Coordination Suggestion (4)
2. war: puzzled question
3. [WAR: Coordination Suggestion] (2)
4. Raffle #30 - Book signed by Nick Knight - 2/16!
5. Looking for Carla
6. Pray for KC
7. Looking for website (2)
8. fk on ebay (2)
9. Farenheit 151 oh no! Burning fanfic Donate; Don't incinerate!
10. WAR: Which list? (was: Re: Admin: War and peace)
11. War: War talk and ICQ
12. WAR: FAQ for Fanfic wars (2)
13. What do you think?
14. Admin: What's a war, Mommy? :) (3)
15. FK Alumni Alert
16. A change over at USA
17. Catherine Disher on TV?
18. Farenheit 151 oh no! Burning fanfic Donate; Don't
incinerate!
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:06:48 -0500
From: Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Coordination Suggestion
No! Not YOU libs.... There IS nothing outside of FK.....;-)
Hinto for the AIM, if its anything like ICQ, you could use invisible except
for certain people. Does it have that capability?
--
Cecilia
Lady Ariadne--webmistress
http://www.wildbadgers.net
ICQ# 10820105
--
I haven't had that much problems with FK fans (so don't worry that I'm
talking about any of you), but some people just don't understand "I DON'T
HAVE TIME TO CHAT RIGHT NOW" and insist on IMing me every time I log on for
the entire time I'm on! I've had to block people. I have a life outside of
FK and Wars, believe it or not<g>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:07:37 -0500
From: Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Coordination Suggestion
Sorry, meant to send that private. Beat me with a blond vampire detective!
Or is that frisk me? ;-)
Anyway. Sorry about that.
--
Cecilia
Lady Ariadne--webmistress
http://www.wildbadgers.net
ICQ# 10820105
--
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:14:08 -0800
From: Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......>
Subject: war: puzzled question
What's a war?
K
--
Klytaimnestra lbowman@c.......
Fanfiction at http://members.home.net/lbowman
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:42:56 CST
From: Emily <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: Re: [WAR: Coordination Suggestion]
I have ICQ and AIM, although I never use AIM.
And how do you go about joining a faction? What if you are undecided but
still want to participate?
Emily
"Mildred G. Cady" <mgcady@h.......> wrote:
Saying we do have a war at some point, I would suggest that factions share
their icq/aim/yahoo messanger ids...
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:37:33 -0500
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susanmgarrett@e.......>
Subject: Raffle #30 - Book signed by Nick Knight - 2/16!
Don't forget, the deadline is Friday evening!
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/raffle.htm
Forever Knight Geographically-Challenged Raffle
Congratulations to the Winner of Raffle #29
Adrian Wilhite of Vincennes, Indiana
CURRENT RAFFLE # 30
Begins: January 27th, 2001
Ends: February 16th, 2001
Item: Forever Knight novel signed by Geraint Wyn Davies as Nick Knight
This copy of "Forever Knight: Intimations of Mortality" was signed by
Geraint Wyn Davies in December, 1998, at the Weekend with Ger #4. But
there's a twist - Ger signed the book "Love, Nick Knight." So this copy of
the book is well and truly signed by Nick himself.
You are eligible to enter to win this item if you did
NOT
attend the following cons or events:
* Weekend With Ger IV (December 1998)
* Weekend With Ger V (December 1999)
Please note that ALL raffle items are accompanied by a certificate of
authenticity which tells you where the item came from, who signed it, who
witnessed the signature, and when and where the item was signed. All
signatures are original and genuine.
There is no purchase of a raffle ticket or any monetary donation required.
We do, however, ask that you write ONE letter to one of the many addresses
we have listed at our webpage, to support a Forever Knight television
movie, release of more Forever Knight soundtrack cassette tapes and CDs,
and licensing and production of more Forever Knight video tapes, novels and
other tie-in books.
The letter you wrote last week, last month, or even yesterday does NOT
count. PLEASE honor the spirit in which these raffles are held - write your
qualifying letter and drop an email note to Rae Plachecki
(Javiette@a.......), telling her who you wrote to and when, and what
affiliation you are, if any. The future of these raffles is in your hands.
Use the raffle website entry form to enter
(http://members.aol.com/fkraffle/fkraffle.htm)
or
send an e-mail to fkraffle@a....... and include
1.Your real name
2.Your snail address
3.Your e-mail address
ONLY ONE ENTRY PER PERSON!
In addition to writing a letter, if you haven't done so already, please
take the time to visit
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/casablanca/433/index.html to e-sign a
petition to have FK released on professional tapes and or DVD!
At 11:59 PM, on Friday, February 16th, all e-mail entries will be dumped
into a bag, shuffled, and one name will be drawn. The winner will be
notified on Saturday, February 17th and will be asked if their name and
city/state may be posted. The prize will be mailed priority rate within 2
-3 days.
After the winners have been drawn, the contest entries are destroyed. None
of these names or addresses will be kept or compiled for any sort of
listing. Names and snail-mail addresses are asked as a security measure
(and to assist me in quickly mailing out the raffle prize). THEY ARE NOT
GIVEN TO ANYONE. EVER.
This raffle will be advertised on the ForKni-L list, the Forever Knight
newsgroup, the AOL Forever Knight Board, and the SciFi Channel Dominion
Forever Knight bulletin board.
fkraffle@a....... --
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/raffle.htm
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:07:01 -0800
From: Kryshana Dempsey <wldthngwthfngs@h.......>
Subject: Looking for Carla
Has anyone heard anything from Carla Martinek lately?
I've sent her a couple of e-mails and they haven't been answered. I hope
that everything is okay.
~Shana~
wldthngwthfngs@h.......
wickdgrin@j.......
"Keep smiling. It makes people wonder what you've been up to."
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:19:29 -0800
From: Kryshana Dempsey <wldthngwthfngs@h.......>
Subject: Pray for KC
I just got a disturbing call from KC. It seems that her car broke down and
they want $1900.00 to fix it. They are already struggling financially, so
anytime something major involving money comes up, KC's first reaction is to
panic and second reaction is to contemplate suicide.
I think I've managed to calm her down, but you never really know with her.
I am heading over there ASAP.
Her husband isn't making matters any better, as he keeps implying that it is
somehow her fault.
Please pray for her.
Thanks.
~Shana~
wldthngwthfngs@h.......
wickdgrin@j.......
"Keep smiling. It makes people wonder what you've been up to."
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:49:41 EST
From: LDukie913@a.......
Subject: Looking for website
Hi All,
due to my recent computer problems I lost the addresses to
all my "favorite places" on the Internet. I have been able to
rediscover most of them but there is one I can't find. It was
a web site that had loads and loads of FK photos, including a section
that included all the major and reoccurring characters. I want
to say the site was created by somebody named Nancy.
Does this sound familiar to anybody? If you know where this is
I would love to know the addy.
Thanks.
Lori
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:50:48 EST
From: Iamatchr2@a.......
Subject: Re: fk on ebay
Hi again,
wow, two posts in as many days, I think I far surpassed my quota. Anyway,
thank you for the responses. I think I will not post to ebay-too many ifs and
legalities to mess with. I shall probably just keep my vast stock. Some of
the paper, I have burned in the woodburning stove. It is not a commentary
content, but rather quantity. I had so much it could fill a few cartons.
Switched most of the paper to disk and burned the paper copies.
Take Care to all,
Happy writing-from one appreciative reader who is almost a year behind in
her reading,
Respectfully,
Rosemary
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:12:14 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: fk on ebay
Some of the paper, I have burned in the woodburning stove. It is not a
commentary content, but rather quantity. I had so much it could fill a
few cartons. Switched most of the paper to disk and burned the paper
copies. Rosemary
-----------------------------------------------------------
[Kyer takes in such a huge breath that her lungs just might burst before
she can let out..]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Rosemary! What hath thou done!!!!
Were this pics? Stories, What?!
Arggghhhh!!!!!
Okay, people... let's say you've got a ton of old printed FK fanfic around
that you don't think anyone would want.
For heavens sake! Don't just destroy it!
Use it!
Leave it out where the unknowing and unwary smucks of the world might
stumble across it and go "Hey! I remember that show! I wonder what this is
about? And lookee! It has a CURRENT Forever Knight website addy on it. I
must therefore hike myself to yon computer cafe and check this out."
Okeeday?
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
(and if those were pics you destroyed I might just have to hunt you down
and thwak you alive with a ketchup-dipped french frie.)
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:58:32 EST
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Farenheit 151 oh no! Burning fanfic Donate; Don't incinerate!
In a message dated 2/12/01 8:15:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, kyer@p.......
writes:
<< Some of the paper, I have burned in the woodburning stove. It is not a
commentary content, but rather quantity. I had so much it could fill a few
cartons >>
I dunno, but with permission of the authors, I would think that a printed out
copy of some fanfic might make a delightful addition to some of the auction
packages for KtK and the GWD charities. Dontcha think? You wouldn't be
selling, you'd spare some other person from printing the stories out
themselves. Recycle and spare some trees!
Casting T. F. Stone
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:59:55 -0500
From: g4akl@c.......
Subject: Re: [WAR: Coordination Suggestion]
At 04:42 PM 2/12/01 CST, Emily wrote:
>And how do you go about joining a faction? What if you are undecided but
>still want to participate?
I believe that you join a faction by just declaring that you have
that affiliation. Put it in you .sig file or just below your name
if you don't have a sig file, instead of sending a message to the
list JUST to make that announcement. <g> (The list hampsters will
thank you.)
But joining a faction is NOT the same as saying that you want to
play along with that faction in a war. Some faction members
choose not to play/don't have the time, etc. And some factions
themselves don't play in the war. And some individuals
who do not have any faction affiliations still play in the war.
To play in a war you need to have sent in a permission slip for that war.
Generally this is done THRU the faction leaders. If you do not have
any affiliations or choose to play as an independent, generally you
send your permission slip directly to the war master/mistress.
(They will make an announcement ahead of time specifying how.)
(Btw, war newbies should NOT play as an independent, imo. You need
to play along with an established faction in order to learn how the
game is played.)
Some factions will allow non-members to play along with them in the
war. Their war leaders will send messages to the list, actively trying
to recruit participants.
hope this helps,
Arletta Asbury
leader of the Light Cousins in wars 9 & 10
survivor of wars 7, 8, 9 & 10
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:19:30 -0600
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Coordination Suggestion
At 03:35 PM 2/12/01, Mildred G. Cady wrote:
>Saying we do have a war at some point, I would suggest that factions share
>their icq/aim/yahoo messanger ids. I remember it helped me in the past as
>Merc Mommy General. And Faction Leaders share amongst themselves as well.
>Just to facilitate that supprise attack, you know?
I know we did that last time with the faction leaders. And you're right,
it helped immensely. Probably AIM more than the others ... depends on what
most people have.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:36:47 -0600
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: WAR: Which list? (was: Re: Admin: War and peace)
At 12:49 PM 2/12/01, Lisa McDavid wrote:
>Second, I'm wondering whether it would be a better
>idea to run this war on the Fkfic-l@e....... that
>Carla Martinek and I have been cybersquatting. It's
>going to have to be either that or no non-wars posts
>for the duration of the war. We have to consider
>available disk space at PSU.
Sounds like a good idea to me. (Although, technically, it's
fkfic-l@y....... now.) If the group is set up to archive posts,
then folks can go to the website to read them or see if there's anything
they've missed. There have to be enough egroups/yahoogroups-savvy folks
around this list that could help the list moderator(s) get everyone set
up. (What? Volunteer? Who, me? :-)) Is the list still active over there?
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:22:35 -0600
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Coordination Suggestion
At 04:42 PM 2/12/01, Emily wrote:
>And how do you go about joining a faction? What if you are undecided but
>still want to participate?
If you know that you want to play with a particular faction, you contact
the leader(s) of that faction. When War is close, the leaders announce
themselves and invite folks to contact them. If you are undecided, you can
either play with the Diehards or as an independent.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:08:03 -0600
From: Felicia Olivier <clio3@m.......>
Subject: War: War talk and ICQ
Y'all,
I think an IM device is incredibly helpful to have. I have ICQ,
AIM, MSNMS, and Yahoo!. Obviously, it's not necessary, but beneficial
should things go awry (and they always do, or maybe that's just my faction.
. .) Anyway, someone asked how to join a faction. Well, usually folks are
on the faction mail lists, but not always. I think I can safely say that
once war details (dates and faction leaders) are worked out, leaders will
send invitations to the lists, telling listees who to contact for which
faction they want to play with.
By the way, I can't wait :) I love it!
Felicia <clio3@m.......> AIM: thirdclio ICQ: 93264965
Vaquera, DP, dedicated T&V Packer, Val, and Les Mis.
T&V Page: www.geocities.com/Area51/Alien/4196
"You're full of it, Vachon."--Tracy from BB2
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:31:16 -0800
From: Victor Roscetti <dragonslair_08060@y.......>
Subject: Re: Looking for website
Hi,
Nancy Taylor's site addy is:
http://members.home.net/nat1228.fk.htm
Enjoy, Vic Roscetti
=====
Victor A. Roscetti, Dragon's Lair Studios' Business Manager. Visit us on the web
at http://www.dragonsroar.com/index.htm for updates, product info and other
cool stuff! Forever Knight Parodies and Dramas, also Star Trek - all profits go
to Charity!
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:05:20 -0700
From: Laura R <larug@e.......>
Subject: WAR: FAQ for Fanfic wars
WAR: FAQ for Fanfic wars & other info:
From FKFIC-L war ten:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Lot/9686/index.html
especially read the "war 101" page if you are new to wars.
Wars 1 - 4 can be found at:
http://www.fkfanfic.com/fanfic/wars.htm
not sure where any of the other wars are, but if any one has a huge
web site < about 30 MB worth when not compressed>, i have all the
wars, mostly as individual posts, in whatever "text" format the email
program of the time put the things in, and i could compress them and
send them off to such a person.
The List gardener's tips for managing FK list subscriptions,
including how to set topics at:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm
--
Laura Ruggiero <larug@e.......>
"There is no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing."
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:09:05 +0600
From: Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: FAQ for Fanfic wars
On 12 Feb 01, Laura R wrote:
> Wars 1 - 4 can be found at:
> http://www.fkfanfic.com/fanfic/wars.htm
My War 9 page is still up at:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/war9ldrs.htm
I apologize for the lack of sophistication, but the full text of War 9 is
available by day and by faction. There is some general background and
explanatory info too.
Have fun!
Don ---,-<@
Argent@e.......
I smell blood and an era of prominent madmen. - W.H. Auden
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 02:50:39 -0600
From: Michele Alexander <syren@i.......>
Subject: What do you think?
Do you consider Close Call *the* or *a* valid end to second season? - I
don't recall what episode originally ended second season in production
and/or airing order? Does anyone remember and does it matter to you? Or
do we all accept SciFi's use of Close Call as the "Official" end to second
season?
If you do accept it as the end of second season...how do you think things
stand at the end of the ep?
Below is my opinion, I'm very interested in hearing the perspectives of
both newbies and old timers.
*********************
When the second season ended the first time around no one knew what would
happen both behind and in front of the camera. Close Call although never
designed as Schanke's swan song is the closest to a closure ep we have for
him.
Schanke figures it out about Nick and runs the gamut of emotions before
settling on loyalty and friendship. Schanke finally meets LC and has a
rather interesting interaction with him, did LaCroix whammy him or just
persuade, did Schanke really decide Nick is Human or just that it doesn't
matter we never really know especially if this is the end of the
season. It also makes it possible that LC had something to do with
Schanke's death or conversely that the third season changes in LC might be
the natural evolution from that final scene.
IMO Scifi made a good choice both dramatically and financially by moving
that ep in light of how the third season began. What do you think?
Michele
Syren@i.......
AlexaKnight@e.......
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:15:05 -0800
From: Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......>
Subject: Admin: What's a war, Mommy? :)
Yes, I know I said that hereafter we'd use the war
topic. That was before I realized that some things
will need to be explained to everyone so we can decide
if we want to play.
A war is a large-scale online role-playing game of
sorts. The premise is different each time, depending
on what the warmistress (it's usually a warmistress)
has come up with. The FK universe is real in war
time. The characters lead their factions (e.g.,
LaCroix and the Cousins, Nick and the Knighties) as
they all try to accomplish whatever the goal is. This
leads to inter-faction battles, pranks, etc.
The main thing to remember is that wars are supposed
to be fun and _funny._ This is not war as wargamers
understand it. Attacks consist of things like the time
I, playing as an independent instead of a Cousin,
arranged for the Ratpack to introduce a thousand
glow-in-the-dark pink rats into the Cousin
headquarters at CERK.
Everyone who is subscribed to whatever venue we use is
eligible to play, provided he or she has filed an
e-permission slip. More on that later. The main thing
is that because real people can't be depicted without
their consent, we have to have permissions on file for
everyone who plans to play. To prevent complete chaos
we don't allow crossovers with other shows in wartime.
A war-time persona is the player's self. You can
enhance yourself somewhat, for instance by giving
yourself a really great laptop or more ability at
programming and hacking than you actually have. But
unless you really are a martial arts expert or really
do own a Cray supercomputer, you can't do that in
wartme. No non-human personas or powers are allowed.
You don't have to affiliate with a faction to play.
I've been asked what a faction is. It's the
fans/followers of a particular character. Some
factions have subdivisions. A list of those I can
remember in my current groggy state:
Knighties: Nick
Cousins: LaCroix (why Cousins is a long story)
Natpack: Nat
F.O.D.S. (inactive): Schanke
Ravenettes: (not very active): Janette
Perks: Tracy
Vaqueras: Vachon
Ratpack: Screed
I'm sure the ones I've forgotten will make themselves
known. :)
The factions attack each other and/or the characters.
The first wars allowed attacks by individuals on
individuals. I want to get back to that kind of
spontaneity.
Several of the early wars are on the net. A search key
of +"Forever Knight" +war should find them.
Above all, this is very preliminary. No war will
start until a date has been chosen and people have had
plenty of warning.
McLisa, about to be out of contact for most of the day
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:50:43 -0500
From: clarkcindy <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: FK Alumni Alert
My server seem to have eaten all my mail sent before 2/6/01, so I apologize
if someone has posted this earlier.
Colm Feore is in "Haven", a Hallmark Hall of Fame miniseries airing on
Sunday and Wednesday nights on CBS. The miniseries was filmed in Toronto as
well.
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:11:53 -0500
From: Mickey <wench@a.......>
Subject: A change over at USA
David Kissinger has been named President, USA Television Production Group,
overseeing the primetime operations of Studios USA and all administrative
and finance for the USA Television Group, reporting to Barry Diller,
Chairman of USA Networks. Before this appointment, David was President of
Programming for Studios USA. Stepping down from the President position is
Robert Fleming who has been with the division for five years. USA
Television Production Group is a division of USA Networks Inc.'s
Entertainment unit. USA Television Distribution Group, another division of
USAi and overseen by President Steve Rosenberg, is responsible for Studios
USA's first run programming and sales.
Annmarie aka Mickey
wench@a.......
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:15:55 -0500
From: Mickey <wench@a.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a war, Mommy? :)
Would you please be kind enough to refresh my memory and possibly anybody
else's that needs it, on how to set your mail to *not* receive WAR posts
and how people should address their subject lines so that it properly
filters? Thanks.
Annmarie aka Mickey
wench@a.......
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:08:08 -0800
From: Kryshana Dempsey <wldthngwthfngs@h.......>
Subject: Catherine Disher on TV?
Didn't I see a post a few days ago that Catherine Disher is supposed to be
on TV sometime this week? I want to watch the program (or at least tape
it), if I haven't already missed it.
Thanks!
~Shana~
wldthngwthfngs@h.......
wickdgrin@j.......
"Keep smiling. It makes people wonder what you've been up to."
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:48:28 -0600
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: What's a war, Mommy? :)
At 07:15 AM 2/13/01, Lisa McDavid wrote:
>I, playing as an independent instead of a Cousin,
>arranged for the Ratpack to introduce a thousand
>glow-in-the-dark pink rats into the Cousin
>headquarters at CERK.
Which lead to one of my cats (who always attend the Wars) dropping a pink
rat corpse on Uncle's head while I was standing in his office. Quite an
interesting experience ...
Was it only a thousand? Seems like those little buggers multiplied
exponentially and were *everywhere* the rest of that War. And pink seemed
to be the signature color, too.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:50:33 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Farenheit 151 oh no! Burning fanfic Donate; Don't
incinerate!
> In a message dated 2/12/01 8:15:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, kyer@p.......
> writes:>
<< Some of the paper, I have burned in the woodburning stove. It is not a
> commentary content, but rather quantity. I had so much it could fill a few
> cartons >>
Just for the record, Kyer was *quoting* that passage, she did NOT burn
anything herself ...she can't even light a darn match.
<sheesh...people trying to decimate my good name> <g>
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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