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FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Aug 2000 to 14 Aug 2000 - Special issue (#2000-248)

Mon, 14 Aug 2000

There are 31 messages totalling 1007 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. "Come to me" (10)
  2. McLisa Waves Back
  3. FK/GER Tapes. (5)
  4. Admin: I'm back (3)
  5. I have a question... (7)
  6. Interesting bit of trivia...
  7. List MIA's
  8. YKYBWTMFKW
  9. Admin: Religion
 10. Fangs Project Update

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:15:43 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

I have a movie clip of the "Come to me" scene on my site, if you want that
too or instead (not sure about where to get a wave though).

Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight

----- Original Message -----
From: <Sss44@a.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 8:10 PM
Subject: "Come to me"


> Does anybody know if there's a .wav of Nick saying "Come to me" ) from The
> Hunted out there anywhere? I've been looking and haven't found one on the web
> yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scottie
> sss44@a.......
> "Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:00:22 -0700
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

At 04:10 PM 8/13/00 EDT, Sss44@a....... wrote:
>Does anybody know if there's a .wav of Nick saying "Come to me" ) from The
>Hunted out there anywhere?

I sent it to her. <g>

Nancy  :)

Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
"The first hundred years are the hardest."
    --Wilson Mizner

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:32:56 -0400
From:    mclisa@m.......
Subject: McLisa Waves Back

h'all the lil' ratsies wave in-no-sin loik h'at the McLisa>

--Libs

McLisa waves back and decides that while the pretty shiny car explains the
notice, she wonders whether she wants to know about the thong. :)

McL

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:47:00 EDT
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

In a message dated 8/13/00 1:29:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
lauren1228@m....... writes:

<< Hi! I've found a wav. where Nick says "Come to me" It is at this URL:
 http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/dolls/867/fksounds/fksounds.html   >>

ROTFL  I just went and listened to it.  I wonder how many takes it took GWD
to be able to say it with a straight face. <g>

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:53:46 -0500
From:    Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

 LOL! :) I dunno. <G> Well, hmm proabably not that long since he's been
acting as a vamp for a while by Season 2. ;)
 Lauren :)

----- Original Message -----
From: <Laudon1965@a.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: "Come to me"


> In a message dated 8/13/00 1:29:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> lauren1228@m....... writes:
>
> << Hi! I've found a wav. where Nick says "Come to me" It is at this URL:
>  http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/dolls/867/fksounds/fksounds.html   >>
>
> ROTFL  I just went and listened to it.  I wonder how many takes it took GWD
> to be able to say it with a straight face. <g>
>
> Laurie of the Isles
>

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:14:20 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

In a message dated 8/13/00 4:01:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nat1228@h.......
writes:

<<
 I sent it to her. <g>
  >>

And made me a very happy Knightie, btw. :-)

Speaking of Knighties, did anybody ever make up a Knightie t-shirt? If so, I
don't have one. :-)

Welcome back, Lisa!
Scottie
sss44@a.......
"Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death

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Date:    Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:21:49 -0400
From:    g4akl@c.......
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.

At 02:02 PM 8/13/2000 -0500, Lauren wrote:
1st:  In "Human Factor" is there a version that actually shows Nick biting
Janette?

     Nope. That's probably why there was always some confusion about that.

2nd:  The FK Dailies sound very interesting, does anyone know where to get
copies dubbed from people?  I know Marg Yamanka has one set but, is there
anyone else who has another set?

   Wasn't that a fund raising project?   If so, then you should only
   try to get copies from Marg Yamanka.

 3rd:  Is there ONLY a FK Season 2 Blooper reel?
   That's the only Blooper that fans have ever seen.

Lastly:
  Is there anyone who has copies of Ger's Theater Perfromances? Or maybe
movies and TV Series.

  Some people have copies of Ger's series, Black Harbour.  I don't
  know about the Airwolf series.  Anyone else know about other
  TV and theatre performances on tape?

Arletta
http://www.charm.net/~g4akl

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:36:05 EDT
From:    Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: I'm back

In a message dated 8/13/00 3:06:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
mclisa@m....... writes:

> I'm back early from Indianapolis, having bought my house. So, why is there
> a purple thong behind the couch, and what is this Official Metropolitan
> Toronto Warning on the door? :)
> Uhr....

{{{{{{{{{{Welcome Back}}}}}}}}}} oh wonderful ListMOM <g>

Forever Yours,
Billie-Lee

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 1980 19:05:36 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: I have a question...

Why wasn't Nick bothered by the metre-tall gold-colored Buddha statue in
the San Francisco acupuncturist's room? And what about the Black Buddha
itself, which he handled repeatedly without any discomfort? My theory is
that Buddha is a symbol of Enlightenment, not of Light, and so there's no
problem.

Maybe Nick should've become a Buddhist, and searched for a Middle Way
between his vampiric urges and his longing for unreclaimable mortality...

Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:57:06 -0400
From:    Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

I would like a Knightie nightie, myself.  (And, no, I'm not talking about
*that* nightie -- chemis -- undershirt -- whatever..... "g")

Oh, and ditto the welcome back, Lisa!

Portia

>
>Speaking of Knighties, did anybody ever make up a Knightie t-shirt? If so, I
>don't have one. :-)
>
>Welcome back, Lisa!
>Scottie
>sss44@a.......
>"Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death
>

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:04:01 -0400
From:    Amand-r <deparsons@e.......>
Subject: Re: I have a question...

<Angela>
> Why wasn't Nick bothered by the metre-tall gold-colored Buddha statue in
> the San Francisco acupuncturist's room? And what about the Black Buddha
> itself, which he handled repeatedly without any discomfort? My theory is
> that Buddha is a symbol of Enlightenment, not of Light, and so there's no
> problem.

<Amand-r>
That works.  Buddhism isn';t reallt a religion.  It was made one about
600 CE by a king who nmeeded a national religion.  Although it is a
religion now, a great deal of people would argue since there isn't
really a god.  Buddha attained enlightenment, but he's not a god.  The
Neither statue was in a holy temple.  If MNick was visiting all the
bhuddist and shinto temples on oph, say, the Japanese island of
Shikoku, he might have a problem.  But neither statue was in a holy
place, and not used as such.

<Angela>
 > Maybe Nick should've become a Buddhist, and searched for a Middle Way
> between his vampiric urges and his longing for unreclaimable mortality...

<Amand-r>
Ooooh!  I can see it...Nick chanting "the jewel is in the eye of the
lotus.....ommmm"

Heh

Amand-r, factionless wonder of the seven seas...arrrr...!

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:06:31 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.

> 2nd:  The FK Dailies sound very interesting, does anyone know where to get
> copies dubbed from people?  I know Marg Yamanka has one set but, is there
> anyone else who has another set?
>
>    Wasn't that a fund raising project?   If so, then you should only
>    try to get copies from Marg Yamanka.
>
Based on the information we got at LCA 2 last year, the dailies cannot be
used as fund raisers.  I believe it violates copyright laws.  I bought a
tape and had to sign an agreement that I wouldn't copy it illegally.  So,
even if Marg has the tapes she cannot copy them for charity.  I believe they
can be sold for "fair market value" though.  I don't know if they can be
given away.

Barb

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:15:20 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: I have a question...

In a message dated 8/13/00 9:05:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
deparsons@e....... writes:

> Although it is a
>  religion now, a great deal of people would argue since there isn't
>  really a god.
FYOI - a religion does NOT require a god or goddess. I took a class in
comparative religion in college. Most religious do have dieties, though. In
fact, I had to do a term paper and talked the professer into letting me prove
"Star Trek" fandom can be a religion under the definition of what a religion
is as set forth in the class. To be truthful, I don't remember the
definitions (though I still have the paper and the notes somewhere), but I
got an A plus on the paper! LOL! <g> I do recall the professor pointing out
that we should be very careful before labeling something a non-religion,
because if someone sees it as his or her "religion," then it IS a religion.

Perhaps the FK vampires themselves are not true what it is about objects that
causes them to react.  Now, in truth it is just inconsistancies in the
fictional series, but if the FK universe was real, maybe none of the vampires
really knows why, except that some religious items HURT.

Maybe, though, the "no god in that religion" is a good theoritical point.  Or
perhaps it is only religious objects belonging to religions that believes in
some form of spirits or holiness that might ... I don't know how to say this
exactly, but might attach itself or itselves to the object.

When it comes to cheese, I'm in the mood for some sharp cheddar toasted on
rye bread, please.

--Libs

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:45:28 -0400
From:    Amand-r <deparsons@e.......>
Subject: Re: I have a question...

<Libby>
> FYOI - a religion does NOT require a god or goddess. I took a class in
> comparative religion in college. Most religious do have dieties, though. In
> fact, I had to do a term paper and talked the professer into letting me prove
> "Star Trek" fandom can be a religion under the definition of what a religion
> is as set forth in the class.

<Amand-r>
Very good point.  Here they teach a class called The Religions of Star
Trek. It was most informative.  And what I was trying to imply is that
the power raising structure of Buddhism is different.  Buddhism was
started as a philosophy, and not really ever declared a religion until
later.  Even though you can have a religion w/o a God or goddess, I
wasn't specific enough.

<Libby>
> Perhaps the FK vampires themselves are not true what it is about objects that
> causes them to react.  Now, in truth it is just inconsistancies in the
> fictional series, but if the FK universe was real, maybe none of the vampires
> really knows why, except that some religious items HURT.

<Amand-r>
True.  Once again, I am wondering what it feels like to get "beamed
up".  Oh crap.  But really, you're right.  I still think it has to do
with how the item in question has been "charged" with energy.  The best
way to stockpile said energy (at least in Christianity and Witchcraft)
is to charge weapons or other items with ritual (consecration).  Some
Native American rituals work that way too, which might explain the
ritual daggers.  If said item were "charged" then it might be hard to
touch.  The Buddhists generally don't consecrate statues (I said
*generally*), so perhaps that would be it.

<Libby>
> Maybe, though, the "no god in that religion" is a good theoritical point.  Or
> perhaps it is only religious objects belonging to religions that believes in
> some form of spirits or holiness that might ... I don't know how to say this
> exactly, but might attach itself or itselves to the object.

<Amand-r>
You got it!  I grok what you're sayin'!

<Libby>
> When it comes to cheese, I'm in the mood for some sharp cheddar toasted on
> rye bread, please.

<Amand-r>
::snerk::

Amand-r, princess of cheese whiz.

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:45:39 -0500
From:    Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.

----- Original Message -----
From: <g4akl@c.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.


> At 02:02 PM 8/13/2000 -0500, Lauren wrote:
> 1st:  In "Human Factor" is there a version that actually shows Nick biting
> Janette?
>
>      Nope. That's probably why there was always some confusion about that.

 Okay, I just wanted to make sure. :)))
>
> 2nd:  The FK Dailies sound very interesting, does anyone know where to get
> copies dubbed from people?  I know Marg Yamanka has one set but, is there
> anyone else who has another set?
>
>    Wasn't that a fund raising project?   If so, then you should only
>    try to get copies from Marg Yamanka.
>
 Okay, I'll do that soon. :)

>  3rd:  Is there ONLY a FK Season 2 Blooper reel?
>    That's the only Blooper that fans have ever seen.

Ohh, I guess there was never  realese on the 1st and 3rd Season Blooper
Reel?
>
> Lastly:
>   Is there anyone who has copies of Ger's Theater Perfromances? Or maybe
> movies and TV Series.
>
>   Some people have copies of Ger's series, Black Harbour.  I don't
>   know about the Airwolf series.  Anyone else know about other
>   TV and theatre performances on tape?

I'll proably get Black Harbour From Marg. <G> Airwolf still comes on TV in
US, on TVLand and CH 51, I'll record that myself. :)

 Thanks for answering my questions!! :))
 Lauren :))
>
> Arletta
> http://www.charm.net/~g4akl
>

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:54:30 EDT
From:    SFryar@a.......
Subject: Re: Admin: I'm back

In a message dated 00-08-13 16:22:11 EDT, McLisa writes:

> > I'm back early from Indianapolis, having bought my house. So, why is there
> > a purple thong behind the couch, and what is this Official Metropolitan
> > Toronto Warning on the door? :)

<looking at the purple thong...>

Hmmmmmmm.... Oh, yes!  Now, I remember!   The List Hampsters got into the
Ribena last night, and they started partying all night long. A few of the
Ratpackers joined in and it got really wild.  Yes, that's it!  <giggle>
Sorry about the mess, ListMommy!  <gets mop and bucket and gets busy cleaning
up...>

Now, about that that purple thong... I could tell you how it got behind the
couch, but this is a family list, though... <weg>

Welcome back, McLisa!  :)

StephiLyn
(that's her story and she's sticking to it <giggle>)

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:21:42 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

At 09:57 PM 8/13/00 -0400, you wrote:

>I would like a Knightie nightie, myself.  (And, no, I'm not talking about
>*that* nightie -- chemis -- undershirt -- whatever..... "g")

A Knightie nighty of Knight in his nighties.... Hmmmmm....... in which you
go knighty-knight, right?

Outtasight.



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
        UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:23:54 +1200
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

> >Speaking of Knighties, did anybody ever make up a Knightie t-shirt? If so, I
> >don't have one. :-)

I can get one made...a big size Tshirt. You can write whatever you want on
it.

There are about 12 fonts you can chose from. and the FK logo. whatever
colour you like.
If anyone else is interested I can make and sell them at cost + postage.:)

Price can depend on how much and how big the writing is.
Oh and that goes for hats too.;)

Cheerie,
Kylie
knightraven@c.......  ICQ# 79163147,  AOL & Yahoo - Knightravenz
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven
FK Merchandise available here! T-shirts, Hats etc!

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:39:29 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Interesting bit of trivia...

At 04:36 AM 8/12/00 -0400, Laurie Donaldson wrote:

>This brings up a interesting issue.  It is very difficult for an adult to
>change his or her pronunciation and usage after a having grown up hearing his
>or her language a certain way.  Would this have been a problem for Nick,
>LaCroix and Janette, as French and English changed?

Lessee...

(1) Considering that they spoke modern French even back in 1228 (at least
according to the flashbacks they did)... nope.

(2) Considering that Ger, Nigel, and Deb are all actors, presumably trained
in imitating accents -- at least to a certain degree... probably not.

(3) Considering that the shifts were gradual... Well, most people who move
from one English-speaking area to another pick up the accent of their
adopted area after some time living there, so they probably didn't even
notice their speech patterns and pronunciations were changing.

(4) Anyone who does a lot of traveling within a supposedly monolinguistic
region quickly finds the need to be able to assimilate and parrot back the
accent of the region s/he is visiting as a survival tactic (to wit: Not
three months after enrolling at MIT, I learned to say "pck the ch in
Hvid yd" and ask for "tawnic" and "frppes" instead of "soda" and "thick
shakes"***). Vamps, being utterly adaptable, are masters at this.

>Or would the fact that they can
>assimilate knowledge through feeding been what enabled them to keep up with
>the changes in language?

(5) In one of his experimental attempts at subduing the entire known world,
Lacroix forced Nick and Janette to implement "the Great Vowel Shift" across
the segment of the population they had chosen to allow to breed in order to
obtain a better quality of... dinner. Those who resisted the shift became
*tonight's* dinner instead of *next decade's* dinner.


***if the nonstandard characters didn't translate properly on your system,
they're "ashes" -- that crunched together "ae" that's pronounced something
like the "a" in "ash".



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
        UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:40:31 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: I have a question...

At 10:15 PM 8/13/00 -0400, Libratsie wrote:

>When it comes to cheese, I'm in the mood for some sharp cheddar toasted on
>rye bread, please.

In the mood for some Welsh rarebit, eh?


Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
        UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:53:00 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

In a message dated 8/13/00 8:32:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
knightraven@c....... writes:

<< I can get one made...a big size Tshirt. You can write whatever you want on
 it.

 There are about 12 fonts you can chose from. and the FK logo. whatever
 colour you like.
 If anyone else is interested I can make and sell them at cost + postage.:)
  >>

How about a normal-sized t-shirt (one that you could wear in public <g>) that
says "Forever Knightie" or  "Forever Nick" or "Forever Nicholah"? Maybe in
the FK font. Maybe in a color to match Nick's eyes.  Or the color of the
caddy.  Or black with red lettering, just to stay in the vampire mode.  How
say the rest of you who are in the Nick faction?

It would be neat if we could recognize one another across crowded airports
(or malls, or bookstores, or lofts, or morgues, or wherever Knighties might
congregate). <g>

Scottie
sss44@a.......
"Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:55:18 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.

In a message dated 8/13/00 9:54:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
lauren1228@m....... writes:

> Ohh, I guess there was never  realese on the 1st and 3rd Season Blooper
>  Reel?
There was never a "release" on the SECOND season even, at least not
officially - it is The Thing We Do ***NOT*** Have. So see, we really don't
have the second season bloopers. Oh, no we don't <insert all FK fans doing
the Ratpacker "I'm in-no-sin" expression> Oh, this tape? This one? There's no
video tape here... Oh THIS tape? Uhr... would you believe we got it from this
bald headed Cockney talkin' guy down at the all night swap meet? hmmmm?

But we really don't have the 1st and 3rd.

--Libs

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Date:    Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:57:58 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Admin: I'm back

In a message dated 8/13/00 9:55:43 PM Central Daylight Time, SFryar@a.......
writes:

> Now, about that that purple thong... I could tell you how it got behind the
>  couch, but this is a family list, though... <weg>
 I do seem wot ta re-call tha' Screed h'ad h'it h'on 'iz noggin an' wuz
pa-radin' about with h'it h'after LaCrow dis-appeared from view fer a bit.

Wot Oi wanna know 'iz 'ow Screed's once-white-boxers with the FK logo cross
stitched across the be-'ind o' them got h'on the ceilin' fan wit' Nat's
leather n' lace....

oh, this 'IZ a family  list.

dang.

--Libs

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:03:46 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: FK/GER Tapes.

In a message dated 8/13/00 8:56:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Libratsie@a....... writes:

<< officially - it is The Thing We Do ***NOT*** Have. So see, we really don't
 have the second season bloopers. >>

I've heard that there was a Thing We Do Not Have for the first season, too,
but I don't think any of the FK fen have ever seen it. Of course, if anybody
ever did have it, we would NEVER think of copying it like mad and
distributing it widely to FK fans everywhere in the known universe. Never.
Ever.

Which may be why nobody ever let us see The First Thing We Do Not Have. :-)

Wouldn't it be nice if somebody would issue first season Canadian eps
professionally, and include the 1st season bloopers on it as a bonus? <sigh>
I'd buy it.

Scottie
sss44@a.......
"Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:07:49 +1200
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: "Come to me"

> Scottie
> sss44@a.......
> "Oh, I want him." -- Janette, Near Death

Unfortunately only the logo comes in te FK font...I had to have that
made...but I shall get a copy of the fonts avaliable and get it to you
asap!(I have to go to the workshop to get it)

> How about a normal-sized t-shirt (one that you could wear in public <g>) that
> says "Forever Knightie" or  "Forever Nick" or "Forever Nicholah"?

Can do!  sizes are S M L XL & XXL.

 Maybe in
> the FK font. Maybe in a color to match Nick's eyes.  Or the color of the
> caddy.

Yes I think either and or both is avaliable...<g> + about 40 other colours.

knightraven@c.......  ICQ# 79163147,  AOL & Yahoo - Knightravenz
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven
FK Merchandise available here! T-shirts, Hats etc!

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:22:12 EDT
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: I have a question...

In a message dated 8/13/00 7:05:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
deparsons@e....... writes:

<< That works.  Buddhism isn';t reallt a religion.  It was made one about
 600 CE by a king who nmeeded a national religion. >>

Okay...::doing calming exercises::  Buddhism is very much a religion.  There
may not be a "god" in it, but that is not a requirement for something to be
considered a faith.  Striving to purify one's soul, a belief that all things
are interconnected, governing one's behavior by the certain knowledge that
what one does will come back to one, sounds like a religion to me.  If object
of this religion has been consecrated by a cleric of that religion, someone
who has dedicated his or her life to the above precepts, I would think that
object would be just as "holy" as a sacred object of any other religion, and
just as repellent of the FK vamps.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:29:06 EDT
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: I have a question...

In a message dated 8/13/00 1:56:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
KnghtWtch@a....... writes:

<< So I think since Vachon thinks the church is deconsecrated, then all the
 statues and artifacts in the church are also deconsecrated. >>

I would think that part of the process of deconsecration is the removal of
*all* saced objects,  which I believ statues of saints are considered.
Although we saw some of those nifty floor candalabrum at Vachon's church, I
don't recall every seeing any statuary.  So if there isn't anything left
behind that retains a sacred "charge", I don't imagine the place would be
harmful to a vamp.  I love Vachon's audacity in choosing it as his home.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:59:17 EDT
From:    Phoenix348@a.......
Subject: List MIA's

Greetings all,

Looking over the posts regarding "old listees," I couldn't help but wonder
about whatever happened to Rosebud.  I think her name was actually Jerri, and
she was president of the Fred Mollin Fan Club.  Has she dropped out of the
fandom?  I ask because I don't recall seeing any posts from her
in...(thinking)...at least a year, and she used to post fairly regularly.
And speaking of "List MIA's," has anyone ever come across the whereabouts of
Vampwrtr, or the circumstances for his or her departure?  I've had computer
troubles in recent times and have been nomail on more than one occasion, so
it's likely that I could have missed any posts in regard to either Rosebud or
Vampwrtr.  My apologies in advance, if this is the case.

And one other thing...whatever happened with the FK Fan Fic awards?

Best Wishes,
Stephen Lansing

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:44:25 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW

I was at a car-show on Sunday with my dad.
We were walking down a line of cars and came upon a beautiful
brilliant red 1960 Cadillac convertible.  I was admiring the lines of
the car when my dad stepped to the car's rear to see the fins
better.  The trunk was open and my dad said with middle awe
"Wow, you could put a couple of people in here."

All I could think of was Mel Moser's Tight Spaces and Nat and
Nick's romantic escapade in the Caddy's trunk one fine day.

        Tim


 Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:30:06 -0400
From:    mclisa@m.......
Subject: Admin: Religion

As a matter of fact, Buddhism _is_ a religion. It's generally considered one
of the major world religions, and has been cited by the U.S. Supreme Court
in rulings as evidence that a religion does not have to have a divinity or
divinities as focus.

I am very sure the poster meant no offense. We have had a number of times
over the years when a misunderstanding about a religion or philosophy has
resulted in a problematic post. Forkni-l has always been a model list in
this respect because we've always been able to deal with our diversity
without flames. The many lists which have spun off on various
religion-related topics are proof of this. All resulted from interest groups
and nobody, to the best of my knowledge, went away from us with hurt
feelings. Take a bow, guys -- this is something to be very proud of!

Anyway, on Forkni-l all views are welcome and treated with respect. We've
never needed a rule on this point, and I hope we never will.

Cousin McLisa  (Lisa McDavid)  "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l

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Date:    Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:30:22 EDT
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: Fangs Project Update

Hello everyone, with permission From Lisa, I am updating you all once a week
on the progress of this latest KtK project.
The past few days I have received lots more e-mails in for the project, And
my thanks to all of you :),but there are so many of you out there on the list
I haven't heard from yet.Halloween might seem like the last thing on your
minds right now, but the weeks go by fast,and I would dearly love to have a
huge stack of e-mails in by the deadline.So Anytime your online,please!! Just
an e-mail could make all the difference in the world!
 For those of you unfamiliar with the project, here is the info:

This Halloween, "Kickstart The Knight" will be doing something special to
Encourage *The Powers That Be* to provide us all with not only a return of
the reruns to the Schedule, but renew it as a series with the original cast,
and or return it as a series of made for TV movies, and merchandise.

We have purchased  Vampire Fangs,in an assortment of  neon colors.
From now through October 22nd, we are asking each and every Forever Knight
fan    to please send an e-mail asking for the above.
It can be a simple e-mail asking for FK's return, or filled with as much as
you would  like.I understand that there has been a little confusion as to
what I am asking, so I will try to clarify it.
The e-mails you send me should be like the ones you have been sending
feedback during the blitz's. or snail mail letters, By now, you all know we
want more FK,the original cast, merchandise, etc.and if you like, you can
make it Halloween oriented :)
Thats what to put in, then send to me :0
i will in turn will  print out and attach your mail to a set of fangs, and
send it to Tristar/Columbia and the Sci-fi Channel in coffin shaped boxes!

Remember!! We at  KTK cannot do this without you guys!!
Lets make sure that this Halloween is  the one where we finally get what we
want!

 So come-on and join in on the fun! and Help  the cause! Lets make sure we
let them all know that we want Nick and Company to take another bite out of
crime!!!

Send all E-mails to : SField8067@a.......  (NOT THE ML)
  (put"Fangs Project" into the subject line.)
For those that have friends not online, we are accepting Snail mail for this
project as well. sent that to:
KtK
P.O.Box 1914
Racine,WI 53401-1914

Permission to spread the word of this everywhere!!!
Thanks in advance to everyone!
Susan Ellen Field
SField8067@a.......
Kickstart The Knight

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