There are 23 messages totalling 744 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. [Re: [FORKNI-L] Nick and Wrigley Field] (3) 2. authors 3. Nick in Chicago 4. YKYB 5. Scifi Chat (4) 6. Nick Still Best Angst-Ridden Vampire (Re: A Movie I Just Watched) Kinda Long 7. GWD Sighting in My Highlander Bloopers 8. [[FORKNI-L] GWD Sighting in My Highlander Bloopers] (2) 9. Update on Andromeda (Lisa Ryder) (3) 10. re-vamped story 11. Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2 12. Nick Still Best Angst-Ridden Vampire (Re: A Movie I Just Watched) Kinda L... 13. FK fans in UK 14. Spelling Issue :) 15. Blitz for the Knight Day 12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:24:57 EDT From: Dolpfin220@a....... Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Nick and Wrigley Field] In a message dated 06/22/2000 11:14:25 AM Central Daylight Time, emily.m.hanson@u....... writes: > Nick sure gets around, doesn't he? > Would like to use the info in a fanfic, does anyone know > the name of Nick's old cop partner and if he got killed off? > According to the transcripts, the partner's name was Czajkowski. He managed to survive and Nick was offered a citation but insisted that he should really go through the academy.... Janet - <A HREF="Dolpfin220@a.......">Dolpfin220@a.......</A> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:27:05 -0500 From: Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......> Subject: authors Sending out a request, a second request in some cases, for authors' addresses. These are who I'm looking for: Cousin Caile; last known addy: gielskcl@b.......; wrote "a wee tale" Catherine Boone; catheboo@c.......; wrote "white knight, black pawn," "unexpected circumstance," "one man's freedom" Janette Buchanan; wabbit@j.......; wrote: "just think happy thoughts" Liz ??; e.j.andrew@sheffield.ac.uk; wrote: "halloween hell" and "king's pawn" thanks a lot! monica luscious lucius lover "When you have a friend in the Nightcrawler, who needs enemies?" LaCroix ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:55:19 EDT From: Laudon1965@a....... Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Nick and Wrigley Field] In a message dated 06/22/2000 3:26:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Dolpfin220@a....... writes: << According to the transcripts, the partner's name was Czajkowski. >> Hmm... as close as I can figure the pronunciation, this would be the Polish equivalent of the Russian Tchaikovsky. IIRC Cz in Polish is a "ch" sound. Can anybody confirm this? Laurie of the Isles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:10:07 -0500 From: "Janet Dornhoff, DVM" <dornhoff@p.......> Subject: Re: Nick in Chicago > So it does seem that our crusader has a thing for Chicago. Hey, any time he wants to come back again, he's welcome to crash at my place! ;-) > he was back in ten years. > [at a minimum] 1964-68 Chicago (Amateur Night, Beyond the Law) <snip> > By '71 he was in Vietnam, but does that mean he was > possibly in Chicago until 71? And it looks like we don't know his > whereabouts until he showed up in Toronto in '89. I think he probably *was* in Chicago, with a few sabaticals, from '64 to '89. When he and Janette talked during the pilot, "Wasn't it Chicago before?" "It was time." (Looking a little uncomfortable/unhappy about it) (with recognition) "Ah, the Dorian Grey syndrome." That refers to the story in which Dorian Grey's picture aged but he did not, and eventually those who knew him caught on to the fact that he didn't. So apparently Nick had been in Chicago long enough that people were starting to catch on that he wasn't aging. That many years, there could be some people who he met halfway through who would believe he was still him, and some from the sixties who thought he was his own son. What happens when they get together? And if anyone from the sixties had known him all along, there'd be no possible excuse they could buy anymore by '89. The matter is especially complicated if we assume that Nick was involved in law enforcement throughout this period. Even if he was in different precincts and popped into the suburban forces occasionally, he'd still be having run-ins with cops he knew earlier. And cops are the people most likely to investigate something odd like that! Anyway, if he was in Chicago until '89, then maybe he slipped down to Champaign during the '80s when our bar bands were at their peak, or was around during one of my occasional weekend trips up north to the museums. ;-) -Janet <dornhoff@p.......> The Forever Vet: NatPacker, Watcher, Lurker, X-Phile, and so much more.... "Sir, the truth is I talk to God all the time and, no offense, but he never mentioned you." -Phillipe, _LadyHawke_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:48:52 -0500 From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......> Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Nick and Wrigley Field] > Laudon1965@a....... > Hmm... as close as I can figure the pronunciation, this would > be the Polish equivalent of the Russian Tchaikovsky. IIRC Cz in Polish is > a "ch" sound. Can anybody confirm this? Yup, you're right. I asked my mom, who speaks Polish, and that's what she said. (my mother has been know to grumble, "Why can't people pronounce Polish names? You say them exactly as they're written," usually after a newscaster has slaughtered Lech Walesa's name. Incidentally, that's pronounced "Fow-wewn-sa.") Nancy Kaminski, whose mom's maiden name is Dobrowolski. nancykam@m....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:26:50 -0500 From: niteluvr <niteluvr@s.......> Subject: YKYB Had a thought-- maybe Dick Clark ( American Band Stand) and Nick had talks about how to grow old gracefully, while he lived in Chicago! Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:33:16 +1200 From: Knightraven <knightraven@c.......> Subject: Scifi Chat Hi chatters! Who went to the chat with Bonnie Hammer? Sorry I couldn't make it I was at work.<sigh> How did it go? Learn anything exciting or interesting? Ky. knightraven@c....... http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven FK Merchandise avaliable here! T-shirts, Hats etc! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:12:30 EDT From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......> Subject: Nick Still Best Angst-Ridden Vampire (Re: A Movie I Just Watched) Kinda Long Greetings Listfamily! Yes indeed, I am still alvie and kicking <hears a few (maybe more than a few <g>) people groan...hehe> ......<waves enthusiastically at FK/HL buddies answering my posts over on the Highlander List>..... I just watched this movie called "To Sleep With a Vampire." Brain-Freezing on the actor who played the Vampire (he was Mallory's boyfriend towards the end of "Family Ties....character in FT's was named **Nick**). So, I'm watching away---and at first it starts looking like we have a good-guy, non-human killing, angst-ridden Vampire, and I start to wonder "gee how much are they going to have 'borrowed' from Forever Knight?" Ala Nick, Vampire (only Vampire in the film, BTW) winces and backs away before he puts the bite on someone--then does not follow through. Ala Nick real angsty facial expression and body language when he is real hungry or distressed in some way. Ala Nick, suddenly appears vast distances from just a moment ago. Ala Nick can throw humans through the air as easily as cutting melted butter with a sharp knife; incredible strength and speed. Ala Nick, able to whammie someone bugging him in a bar to go away and leave him alone (but does not say a word, did it with just a look....kinda reminded me of LaCroix there for a minute <g>). Ala Nick, "floats," when observing something from above ground. Doesn't really look like he can fly ala Nick, but *almost.* Ala Nick, drives a cool vehicle <right fast, too!> but it's a Hog, not a car <g>. Most of all, ala Nick, has an angst-ridden demeanor, but can smile, laugh and be charming when he wants to, fangs only when vamping out. Then he (we finally find out his name at the end of the movie---but I won't tell in case someone wants to watch it; running on Cinemax every so often) reveals his true nature---he starves himself until he cannot stand it anymore and takes someone he has "sensed" has given up on life and says he will set them free. Uh-Huh <smirk>. Yup, they kinda lost me there. Reasonably decent movie (already taped over it, not *that* decent) but certainly **not** up to FK standards, IMHO, by a long shot. Then we have "Angel." Of course I still love it :::::ducking and running in case Angel is a sore topic here nowadays::::::, and many moons ago I opined that he was the winner of the Most-Angst-Ridden-Vampire Contest here on the List. He is still danged moody all right. But since Buffy is out of the picture *most* of the time, IMHO, Angel's angst-factor has fallen far below Nick's. So, I hereby nominate Detective Nicholas Knight of FK for the all-time-best and most angsty good-guy Vampire for all Eternity. <g>. Any news on further FK stuff (movie, etc)? Probably not, but can't hurt to wonder, and I have been "nomail" here for a long time. (She has? We didn't notice! <eg>). I ask because the trailer for the Highlander 4 Film "Endgame" is out in places, and though I am delighted at the prospect of seeing both "Macs" in a movie, it irks me that **they** made a movie using *their* TV character Immortal and *we* get no such thing......wahhhhhhhh......I want an FK reunion movie (me and 1,000 others, eh?). Also, no VS-4 has dropped into my box.....any news on that front? Anything exciting <ggg> going on on the FK List here? <asks tentatively because the last time someone asked that question when I was getting List Mail, the answer was *ever* so complicated!>. Let's see now.....speaking of angsty good guys <g> my VCR decided it did not want to tape the Season/Series Finale of Pretender.........<ala Nick, black jacket, much angst, out to save the world and find himself, poor, dear Jarod is, eh? <ok, so it's a stretch, but it works for me> Willing to trade FK (Season One I have Canadian), FK Boopers, FK Alumni, Highlander, Highlander Bloopers and other HL shorts, Buffy, Angel (but I don't have Buffy/Angel tapes exactly labelled since they don't bother to *show the episode titles* <sheesh!>), etc. or cover tape replacement and mailing costs as usual......and my dubs are now getting taped as soon as requested, then mailed to their recipients *the day after* they are finished <g>. Someone on the HL List got me my one missing ep of Highlander: The Raven <whew>. I'm trying to find someone who is as silly as me and has "Highlander: The Animated Series" <hey, quit laughing, I can hear you {g}> (approx 40 total 1/2 hour each eps in all and I only got about half of them before they stopped showing it.....). Any Highlander fans here with it? <Hears a bunch of people go *****as if***** <LOL>.....same offer as for Pretender Finale. I hope all is well with the Listfamily here! I have missed you guys. Hope work and such don't necessitate "nomail" for me again, for a *long* time.....even when I lurk I like being amongst you all!, that's for sure! Forever Yours, Billie-Lee "Oh Master grant that I may never seek to be understood so much as to understand" (Saint Francis) mccelt2000@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:11:29 PDT From: Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......> Subject: Re: Scifi Chat knightraven@c....... wrote: Hi chatters! Who went to the chat with Bonnie Hammer? Sorry I couldn't make it I was at work.<sigh> How did it go? Learn anything exciting or interesting? Ky. I was there from the beginning when it started at 9:00 pm. There was only one FK question that was chosen. That question happened to be mine. I asked that since there was such a strong interest in vampires series, and since FK had such a wide audience, then why wasn't Forever Knight being put back on the air? Bonnie Hammer answered that the Scifi channel had received the series after the creative team had already disbanded, but that there was going to be a new vampire series on this summer called Ultraviolet. That was it! That was the only mention of FK during the entire hour and twenty minutes. I tried to respond to Bonnie Hammer's remark on FK, but it is really not a chat, it is a question and answer period with a moderator who limits what is presented. Anyway, most of the time there were between 250-260 scifi fans waiting to ask questions about there favorite series. I recognized about a dozen other FK fans at the chat, but I'm not sure how many were actually there. At the end, the moderator said that a transcript of the chat would be available at www.sci.com/transcripts in a couple of days if anyone is interested. I hope I was able to answer your questions Kylie. By the way, a scifi fan asked how beneficial writing campaigns are, and Bonnie Hammer said something to the effect that the letters really do not help, but it is nice to know what the fans think. Gwenn Musicante ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:37:19 EDT From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......> Subject: GWD Sighting in My Highlander Bloopers Hi again! Forgot to mention earlier that when I was watching one of my Highlander Blooper tapes the other day, GWD *did* appear, though only very breifly. Someone (forget who) asked me about it a long time ago and I said something like "I *think* so." Well....now I know so. Surely a vital piece of information for us all here in FK'dom....no? Yeah, right. Hey, lack of sleep promotes silliness (no worries, just couldn't sleep, nothing "wrong"). Forever Yours Again, Billie-Lee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:03:21 -0400 From: Libratsie@a....... Subject: Re: Scifi Chat In a message dated Fri, 23 Jun 2000 8:15:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......> writes: <<By the way, a scifi fan asked how beneficial writing campaigns are, and Bonnie Hammer said something to the effect that the letters really do not help, but it is nice to know what the fans think.>> Letters DO help. I have studied broadcasting to a small extent and one thing the professor did cover was being receptive to the fans. I'm sure Ms. Hammer meant no disrepect, but this comment comes across to me as, "We don't care what the fans think." Excuse me, but without the fans and what we think, there'd be NO Sci Fi channel. Talk about a public relations blunder. There's NUMEROUS shows that have been saved through the action of fans. STAR TREK pops to mind immediately, and there's scores of more modern shows too. Well, Ms. Hammer has gotten me slightly miffed (not mad, just miffed) and when I get miffed, I move into action. Where's my paper??? Where's the printer??? Where's my stamps??? FK on-line fans love to play in on-line roleplaying "Wars." Well, this fan is going off line and taking her "war" to paper in the way of polite, intelligent letters to Ms. Hammer and the others on our Kickstart the Knight list of addresses! Could someone post the KtK addresses again? That way I can don my battle gear this weekend! Forever Knight MEANS Forever... --Libs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:31:49 CDT From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......> Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] GWD Sighting in My Highlander Bloopers] Yep, GWD played an immortal with multiple personality disorder for one episode. He got killed off by Duncan, I think. Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......> wrote: Hi again! Forgot to mention earlier that when I was watching one of my Highlander Blooper tapes the other day, GWD *did* appear, though only very breifly. Emily M. Hanson http://www.starbase-eprime.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 06:30:07 -0700 From: fkforever <fkforever@y.......> Subject: Re: Scifi Chat --- Knightraven <knightraven@c.......> wrote: > Hi chatters! Who went to the chat with Bonnie Hammer? How did it go? Learn anything exciting or interesting? Hi, i made it to the chat however, only 1 o 2 FK questions got through the moderator. There were over 250 chatters there. A transcript will be available in a few days at the site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:00:17 -0400 From: jmtof@j....... Subject: Update on Andromeda (Lisa Ryder) This was the write up on Lisa Ryder's character for Andromeda: Beka Valentine (played by Lisa Ryder) "Beka Valentine is the captain of the Eureka Maru, which is the freighter which helps rescue the Andromeda...She's a survivor more than anything else. She's someone who's had a very rough life. She was basically born and raised on the Maru and has been scrambling her entire life. She continues to scramble to a certain extent throughout the course of the show." Jean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:17:19 -0700 From: KYER <KYER@p.......> Subject: re-vamped story I've re-vamped the first two parts of my Unforseen Side Affects humor series and placed them at my site. Has anyone run across a Susan Powter gif? Or have good photo closeups Fleur de Brabant's/LaCroix/Vachon's/Nat's faces that I can put with it for added spice? :)= Kyer, kyer@p....... Still having an angstfest and a blast at one and the same time! http://weirdknight2.homestead.com/SideAffects.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:30:30 -0500 From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......> Subject: Re: Update on Andromeda (Lisa Ryder) jmtof@j....... wrote: > "Beka Valentine is the captain of the Eureka Maru, which is the freighter > which helps rescue the Andromeda... what is it with "Maru" and spaceships? I'm referring back to Star Trek, and the "Kobiashi Maru" scenario at Starfleet where Kirk apparently came up with a... unique... solution to an unsolveable problem. Maybe this is just an honorary nod to the Grandaddy of sci-fi TV series. And to keep it on topic... how can I tie FK and Star Trek together? Bill Shatner to GWD - here goes: Bill Shatner played Capt. Kirk in Star Trek. Star Trek was created by Gene Roddenberry who also wrote Earth: Final Conflict. E:FC starred our own FK alum Lisa Howard who starred in the Fk episode "Spin Doctor" Fk of course starred GWD. I'm working on a shorter link... there must be one. Carla copper6500@y....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:26:28 EDT From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......> Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] GWD Sighting in My Highlander Bloopers] In a message dated 6/23/00 6:55:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, emily.m.hanson@u....... writes: << Yep, GWD played an immortal with multiple personality disorder for one episode. He got killed off by Duncan, I think.>> Yuppers.......it was GWD's "bad" personality that Duncan killed (but he sure didn't want to) when GWD's "good" personality was able to break out and beg Duncan to put him out of his misery now that he (GWD's good personality "Michael") knew what had been happening all along. (Yet another of probably-legendary-from-my- past/long-ago-posts Brain Freezes on "bad personality's" name <argh> and <LOL>). Interesting parallel? The *only* way to kill an HL Immortal is to cut off their head. Is it not true in FK Canon (as well as *most* Vampire Canon) that beheading is a means of doing away with an FK Vampire? I could be wrong.....wouldn't be the first time, that's for certain! I always wanted to see an FK/HL television crossover. I've heard rumors both ways (they were going to do it, no they weren't, and Nigel Bennet *was* (reportedly) slated to play an HL Immortal named "Terence Coventry......," wow, Imagine Uncle and that *voice* as the "other" kind of immortal <weg>. But, if Nick and Duncan were in a crossover episode, I wouldn't want either of my heroes to lose..........(GWD as an HL Immortal doesn't count, he wasn't Nick <g>). How would an HL Immortal with Duncan's pretty stringent "Kill only the bad guys even if *There Can Be Only One,*" (that is of course, only from my POV) respond to a Vampire, albeit a good one? They'd both have to be on the same side for it to work for me :>) Thanks, Emily.........and to off-list folks even though I've answered them off-list for making me feel so welcome back after a long absence! Forever Yours, Billie-Lee KoC, "Die Hard" mccelt2000@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:32:03 -0500 From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......> Subject: Re: Update on Andromeda (Lisa Ryder) > what is it with "Maru" and spaceships? As I remember, Maru is Japanese for ship. It is commonly part of a ship's name. Sort of like how most ships with a US registration are U.S.S. If you are basing your ship's name on an existing Japanese vessel, you would copy the name perfectly. This also explains why it is the U.S.S. Enterprise in StarTrek instead of FS (Federation Ship or some such nonsense). Tim Tim Phillips timp@d....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:45:47 -0500 From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......> Subject: Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2 Wm. Shatner & Patrick Stewart together in "ST:Generations" Patrick Stewart with Brad Dourif in "Dune" Brad Dourif with Ben Bass in "Bride of Chucky" Ben Bass with GWD in FK. Carla copper6500@y....... OK, back to work for me. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:01:11 EDT From: Laudon1965@a....... Subject: Re: Nick Still Best Angst-Ridden Vampire (Re: A Movie I Just Watched) Kinda L... In a message dated 06/23/2000 2:13:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time, McCelt2000@a....... writes: << I just watched this movie called "To Sleep With a Vampire." Brain-Freezing on the actor who played the Vampire (he was Mallory's boyfriend towards the end of "Family Ties....character in FT's was named **Nick**). >> ::waving wildly to Billie-Lee:: Welcome back hon!!!!!! The actor was Scott Valentine. Yes, it frightens me too that I remember that. <g> Actually I think that movie predates FK, but I can't swear to it. Laurie of the Isles {{{{{{{{}}}}}}}} to Billie-Lee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:32:45 -0500 From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......> Subject: FK fans in UK Are there any FK fans in the UK on the list? I've got a couple questions. Please respond offlist. -- Carla copper6500@y....... IM me @ copper6500 (Yahoo & Aol) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:08:47 -0700 From: KYER <KYER@p.......> Subject: Spelling Issue :) Last year I goofed and spelled my story 'Unforseen Side Affects' as 'Affects' instead of 'Effects' and didn't realize it until after all was said and posted to Mel's site. Being a tad on the lazy side and to salve my guilty conscience when thinking of my old English teachers, I reasoned that: "hey---it (the plotline)*was* *affecting* the characters in an unforseen way! Yes?" Well, I've just been called on this (thanks alot! <g>) and since I've changed it a bit on the text anyway, I wan't to know if I should fix the title as well. Will this mess anybody up? I can't think how, but... The only places the original is archived (that I know of) is on Mel's and the Cotk sites. Let me know what you think---does the title work as is or not? OFFLIST PLEASE! Kyer, kyer@p....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:29:46 +0000 From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......> Subject: Blitz for the Knight Day 12 It's day 12 of the Feedback Blitz!! Go ahead and e-mail the two powers that be below asking for what you desire in the Knight (you can also re-use your letters for this 2 week blitz)... 1. Sci-fi: feedback@w....... 2. Tristar/Sony: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html .................................................. Forget what the blitz is about? Read below: It looks like these blitzes we have been doing are getting some attention! So we at KtK, are going to turn them into a monthly routine. This month we are focusing on the two main powers, Tristar and Sci-fi. Its going to be a double dose of e-mails from each of you the fans that would love to not only have FK back on Sci-fi's schedule, but want to make sure everyone knows that we are want more FK with the original cast in new episodes and or movies!! So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down, take that few minutes and send off two e-mails? It could make all the difference in the world! Remember, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK happen!!! June 12th, through June 24th, we are asking everyone to blitz both feedbacks!!! For the two weeks, you can re-use the e-mails you did before, or write new ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back Forever Knight." ALSO REMEMBER!! Sci-fi will be changing its schedule around in June, and again in the fall.... lets make sure that we get Forever Knight on!!! Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w....... Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html When e-mailing TriStar,(especially) give as much personal info as you can...rather than just an e-mail name. A bit more personal carries more weight with TPTB. I also made a button/banner for the upcoming blitzing, which you can use to help spread the word, by putting this on your site (you can get off my save fk page). http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 22 Jun 2000 to 23 Jun 2000 (#2000-181) ***************************************************************
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