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Digest - 18 Mar 2000 to 19 Mar 2000 - Special issue (#2000-81)

Sun, 19 Mar 2000

There are 25 messages totalling 1016 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Searching for story parts (2)
  2. Who's Cross now?
  3. Your Daily Vote & FK's Position (6)
  4. Raffle #26 - Abarat Page
  5. handling announcements/mail loops
  6. Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City (4)
  7. Second printing of FK charity fanzine
  8. "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions (7)
  9. Yky...
 10. Faction Challenge

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:56:57 CET
From:    Simone Nicole Dornecker <moonwing@h.......>
Subject: Searching for story parts

Simone searches her harddrive and scratched her head..... hmmm
seems like I have lost some parts of KC Smiths current story
"Quest for Mortality". If anybody could please, please sent me the parts
1-12 and part 18 I would be eternally greatful (or at least as long as I
don't crumble into a pile of dust).

Please...anybody... help..

Simone

Simone Nicole Dornecker     Zwei Seelen wohnen ach! in meiner Brust,
Simone_Dornecker@y.......   Die eine will sich von der andern trennen;
Moonwing@h.......           Die eine haelt, in derber Liebeslust,
                            Sich an die Welt mit klammernden Organen;
                            Die andre hebt gewaltsam sich vom Dust
                            Zu den Gefilden hoher Ahnen.   (Faust)

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:14:35 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Who's Cross now?

Or whose cross is it?

Whichever you prefer, I've got a bumch of crosses that appeared on FK
during one season or another that I need to get identified.  I'm betting
most of them are from SOB of Games Vampire Play (the church scene), but
they could be scattered just about anywhere throughout the three seasons.

Joan's cross isn't one of them pictured (sorry), nor is the cross worn by
the first murder victim from "For I have Sinned."

The pictures are large to give you a bit more detail.

If you recognize any, please email me the information - and don't
guess.  Go check a tape if you have a klew, then contact me at
susang@v........

http://www.geocities.com/susanmgarrett/cross.htm

I like to have these things as documented as possible before I donate them
to charity auctions.

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
EVER Faithful Ravenette. http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/fiction.htm
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:46:23 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

I'd like to thank Kristin for her daily reminder to vote.  She's got me
doing it.

I think anything that can be done to promote FK that doesn't cost anything
or hurt anyone should be lauded.  And I don't mind her messages taking up
digest space.  It's not like we've been doing anything else worthwhile lately.

Although, actually, in the past couple of weeks discussions are getting
interesting, especially with people going back to the source material
(i.e., the series) and reinvestigating what's there.

I know we all get up with the 'whose gonna see this' thing, but you never
know who is where anymore.  Stranger things have happened, most of them
earlier this morning.

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
EVER Faithful Ravenette. http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/fiction.htm
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:51:40 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Raffle #26 - Abarat Page

The last raffle only had 37 entries.

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/raffle.htm

CURRENT RAFFLE # 26

Begins: March 20th, 2000
Ends: April 14th, 2000
Item: A page from the Abarat (from "1966")

This is it, kids, an honest-to-gosh page from the Abarat, as it appeared in
the Forever Knight episode "1966." This is a prop and it's not signed, but
I figured people would be interested anyway. A couple of these are being
donated to charity auctions, but here's your chance to own a piece of the
book Nick was certain would lead to his cure.

                      Due to the unique nature of this item
                                  EVERYONE
                          is eligible to enter this raffle.

Please note that ALL raffle items are accompanied by a certificate of
authenticity which tells you where the item came from, who signed it, who
witnessed the signature, and when and where the item was signed. All
signatures are original and genuine.

There is no purchase of a raffle ticket or any monetary donation required.
We do, however, ask that you write ONE letter to one of the many addresses
we have listed at the website to support a Forever Knight television movie,
release of more Forever Knight soundtrack cassette tapes and CDs, and
licensing and production of more Forever Knight video tapes, novels and
other tie-in books.

The letter you wrote last week, last month, or even yesterday does NOT
count. PLEASE honor the spirit in which these raffles are held - write your
qualifying letter and drop an email note to Rae Plachecki
(Javiette@a.......), telling her who you wrote to and when, and what
affiliation you are, if any. The future of these raffles is in your hands.

Use the raffle website entry form to enter
http://members.aol.com/fkshirt/fkshirt.htm

or

send an e-mail to fkshirt@a....... and include

1.Your real name
2.Your snail address
3.Your e-mail address

                       ONLY ONE ENTRY PER PERSON!

In addition to writing a letter, if you haven't done so already, please
take the time to visit
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/casablanca/433/index.html
to e-sign a petition to have FK released on professional tapes and or DVD!

At 11:59 PM, on Friday, April 14th, all e-mail entries will be dumped into
a bag, shuffled, and one name will be drawn. The winner will be notified on
Saturday, April 15th and will be asked if their name and city/state may be
posted. The prize will be mailed priority rate within 2 -3 days.

After the winners have been drawn, the contest entries are destroyed. None
of these names or addresses will be kept or compiled for any sort of
listing. Names and snail-mail addresses are asked as a security measure
(and to assist me in quickly mailing out the raffle prize). THEY ARE NOT
GIVEN TO ANYONE. EVER.

This raffle will be advertised on the ForKni-L list, the Forever Knight
newsgroup, the AOL Forever Knight Board, and the SciFi Channel Dominion
Forever Knight bulletin board.
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
EVER Faithful Ravenette. http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/fiction.htm
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:47:49 EST
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

In a message dated 03/18/2000 11:51:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
nat1228@h....... writes:

<< Must we be reminded of this almost daily? I know I have a delete key, but
 I'm wearing the darn thing out! Wouldn't once a week be more than enough?

 Frustrated, >>

Frankly I like the reminders, I read it, I copy and paste the addy to my
browser, and I go vote.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:13:16 -0500
From:    Quinn <quinn@g.......>
Subject: Re: handling announcements/mail loops

Kyer suggested:

>Take all the addys of those who request updates and put them in the To: and
>CC: lines of a new letter.  Then just resend that letter everyday.

That works fine for small loops but bouncing addresses can be a real headache
if you have a few hundred names to send to. I just switched the GWD update list
to an announcement list at ONELIST.  Anyone can subscribe, unsub or set their
subscriptions as needed. With an announcement list only designated people can
post so there is very, very light traffic.

BTW, a suggestion to those who don't like the daily reminders: If you use a
mailer with filters - set a filter for a telltale phrase  or word such as
"vote".
Have the post filter to either a special folder or right into the trash.

Quinn
GWDFC officer              quinn@g.......
GWD Fan Club page--> http://www.gwdfc.org/ , http://www.gwdfc.com/
Want updates on GWD?  e-mail    GWDupdates-subscribe@o.......
Like Robson Green?   e-mail   RobsonGreenFans-subscribe@o.......

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:21:58 -0500
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Searching for story parts

>Simone searches her harddrive and scratched her head..... hmmm
>seems like I have lost some parts of KC Smiths current story
>"Quest for Mortality". If anybody could please, please sent me the parts
>1-12 and part 18 I would be eternally greatful (or at least as long as I
>don't crumble into a pile of dust).
>
>Please...anybody... help..

I am doing this...

Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:24:47 -0800
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

At 06:47 PM 3/18/00 EST, Laudon1965@a....... wrote:
>Frankly I like the reminders, I read it, I copy and paste the addy to my
>browser, and I go vote.

I really hate to sound like a wet blanket. I'm one of FK's biggest
supporters. People who have been around a while and know me, know that.
Back in 1995/96 when we were having the big push to save FK and get the
last half of the third season, I must have written around 200 letters to
TPTB. I folded 500 origami wishing cranes for a project to be sent to TPTB.
I sent holiday cards and postcards. I still do, occasionally. I have
created and maintained an extensive website devoted to the love of Forever
Knight. I write fan fiction. I *LOVE* the show.

I also have nothing against the people who want to vote at these polls and
booths. It can be fun, whether or not you believe it's any real help. All I
question is do we have to be subjected to it on a daily basis? Can't the
people who want to vote *bookmark* the site? Isn't a reminder once or twice
a week sufficient? I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. Private
mail I've received has confirmed this.

Think about these sites. How often can an individual vote? Hourly? Daily? I
can't see where these popularity polls show anything more than that a
particular show has more *persistent* fans than another. It doesn't show
the true number of the fan base involved.

Maybe all this voting *will* help to bring back FK eventually. I don't
personally believe that, but I'd be more than willing to be pleasantly
surprised. By all means, if you enjoy doing so, go vote. It can't hurt. But
*please* recognize the fact that there are a good number of us who, while
we still love the show dearly, get tired of being pestered by the same
reminder posts every day.

Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
"The first hundred years are the hardest."
    --Wilson Mizner

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:17:47 -0600
From:    Kristin Harris <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

So what do I do?? There is WAY too many on this list to post individually on
a loop. I seem to be helping quite a few vote too.

And guess what?? It's #4 now! :) It wasn't this morning, but after everyone
votes "daily" it helps.

I also don't post the same thing everyday. The reminder also tells you what
position it is in. And this isn't permanent, just for a while till FK climbs
back again.

It's up to Mclisa and the people if I post these or not. Many are being
helped by this while a few maybe seem annoyed by one message. It's just
"one" reminder daily to help those in need of it to remember to vote and
even go directly. And it isn't doing harm from what I can tell, rather good.
Those who dislike this just delete then.

So if Mclisa doesn't mind may I continue to help those who like these
reminders?

Kristin

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:06:20 -0800
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

Kristin Harris wrote:
> So if Mclisa doesn't mind may I continue to help those who like these
> reminders?

Please do!! I've got the site bookmarked, but I always forget about it.
I get ALOT of mail and I spend my on line time going through and
answering. Having the reminder come every day sends me right in to vote
and then I delete the message.

--
Cloud

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:04:31 -0800
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City

Well, I must have accumulated some bad karma from my earlier complaint
posts. <sigh> At the moment, it seems as though absolutely EVERY page I
have up on Fortune City (99% of which are FK-related) have disappeared from
that server.

For those of you who have been enjoying surfing through my new episodes
archive pages, this means it's temporarily out of order. I'm checking with
Fortune City, and will re-upload everything if I have to. Meanwhile, check
back occasionally. I'll try to have the problem fixed ASAP.

Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
"The first hundred years are the hardest."
    --Wilson Mizner

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:21:10 EST
From:    BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Re: Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City

Nancy said:  <<<<  it seems as though absolutely EVERY page I
have up on Fortune City (99% of which are FK-related) have disappeared from
that server.  >>>>

Oh dear.  Nancy's not the only one.  I also have...er...had a bunch of pics
etc. on Fortunecity at my personal FK page and at the Kickstart the Knight
page.  So I guess until I can get this straightened out, the backissues of
The Crusader on the KtK page as well as most of my pics on my FK page will be
down.  :::::sigh:::::

Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating.  I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love.  (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
 (paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:27:49 -0500
From:    Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: Second printing of FK charity fanzine

This message is posted with listmommy McLisa's kind permission!

We just did a second printing of "A Taste of Forever," a Forever Knight
charity fanzine benefiting Children's Hospital Foundation through the
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan Club. After filling existing orders, we have a few
copies left over. They'll be sold on a first-come, first-served basis.

About the zine: It features a large assortment of authors from the FK
fandom, writing about your favorite characters from many different
perspectives. There are 324 pages, with 25 all-new stories, complemented by
the stunning illustrations of Dorothy Elggren.

Contributing authors are: Sue Clark, Mary Combs, Dorothy Elggren, Fenris,
Nyx Fixx, Susan Garrett, Jean Graham, Leslie GrantSmith, Chris Hunt, Cindy
Ingram, Nancy Kaminski, Mei Wa Kwong, Calliope Monsoon, Ophelia Paradise,
Libby Singleton, Jules Stafford, Vampwrtr, Kathy Whelton, and Erika Wilson.

Anyone interested may send an e-mail to kwhelton@c....... for
ordering information. Cost is $20, plus $3.50 for shipping and handling
(US/Canada). S&H costs for other countries quoted on request. Payment by
check or money order, please.

Also, check out the zine website at
http://people.mn.mediaone.net/nancykam/zine.html

Again, many thanks to those who helped make the zine a success! More than
$2,300 has been raised for Children's Hospital thus far. Way to go, guys!

Cindy Ingram (cgi271@a.......)
************
"A taste of your blood will be enough, just the barest drop of it, and I'll
be able to understand what you taste, what you feel." -- an excerpt from
"Good Taste" by Ophelia Paradise in the FK charity zine "A Taste of
Forever."

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:42:10 +0100
From:    Llarian <manulanger@t.......>
Subject: Re: Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City

My pages are gone, too...
yech!

Llarian
mailto:manulanger@t.......
Join the SciFi-Crossover-Webring at:
http://home.tronet.de/manulanger/index.html

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Nancy A. Taylor <nat1228@h.......>
An: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. März 2000 04:04
Betreff: Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City

> Well, I must have accumulated some bad karma from my earlier complaint
> posts. <sigh> At the moment, it seems as though absolutely EVERY page I
> have up on Fortune City (99% of which are FK-related) have disappeared from
> that server.
>
> For those of you who have been enjoying surfing through my new episodes
> archive pages, this means it's temporarily out of order. I'm checking with
> Fortune City, and will re-upload everything if I have to. Meanwhile, check
> back occasionally. I'll try to have the problem fixed ASAP.
>
> Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
> Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
> http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
> "The first hundred years are the hardest."
>     --Wilson Mizner
>

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:29:27 EST
From:    "Doņa Angel D.S." <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

Greetings!

I have a question to be used for possible FanFic regarding the Church in
season 1 ep "For I Have Sinned" and a few related things:

#1--I know that in season 3 GVP ep the church was named St. John's
Church/The Church of St. John, but do not recall that the name of the Church
was ever mentioned in FIHS--but they were definitely 2 separate churches.
    I'm assuming--from how things looked in FIHS, that the church was a REAL
church, not a "set" built for FK filming purposes--so can anyone who is
familiar with TO tell me what the name of the church is that was used, and
it looked as if it was "in the city"--is it in RL? {{{This is asking a lot,
but does anyone know the RL street name, too?}}}

#2--at some Catholic Churches here in the US, some of them may be permitted
to have the Mass said in Latin--for instance, in Philadelphia, PA, our
Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul has Mass in Latin--either once
every Sunday or one Sunday each month--not sure which it is, in addition to
Masses on weekends and daily during the week in English. Is this the case in
some Canadian churches?--[I'm assuming, for FK, that Nick and Vachon would
have both been Catholic and, in their mortal lives, the Mass would have been
celebrated in Latin, whereas, in present times--generally the Catholic Mass
is celebrated in the language of the people of the area, but there are some
Masses that are celebrated in Latin.]
  a)--in some US Catholic Churches, if there are a lot of parishioners who
speak a language other than and/or in addition to English, their parish
church may have some Masses in English and some Masses in the other
language, e.g. Spanish, Polish, Vietnamese. In Canada, is the generally
accepted practice--and in TO in particular--to have some Masses in the same
church to be some regularly celebrated in English and some in French?
   b)--in Canada, like in the US, do you have a "Vigil Mass" on Saturday
nights and the evening before a Holy Day that will "fulfill your
obligation",i.e. 'count' for your Sunday Mass and Holy Day Mass?

#3--I understand that in some countries, churches used to be unlocked, but
here in the US it is no longer--generally, I assume--the case--church doors
are locked.--I knew a lady some years ago from Brazil, and she had told me
that there the churches were --at least I think when she lived there--
unlocked, but she noted that in the US they would be locked. What's the
situation in Canada? [I assume that here there is the fear of vandalism
and/or theft and/or desecration of the Church, holy items, and particularly
the Blessed Sacrament.--It may be different in other parts of the US, but
I'm from Philly and live in a nearby middle class suburb, and that's the
case here, except for maybe chapels, within or near the main church, which
MAY be unlocked during the day and possibly during part or all of the
evening--sometimes on special occasions, like Holy Thursday and Good
Friday--whereas the 'main church' would be locked when Masses and special
ceremonies, prayer meetings, etc. are not taking place.]

#4--finally *g*--how do you spell the name of that kind young priest in FIHS
ep?

Thank you!
--{{{and, to our Canadian listmembers, please forgive my ignorance of your
customs--and please take it as acompliment that I wish to "get it right" and
am willing to ask so I'm accurate.}}}

~~Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/Immortal Beloveds/Ravenette/Faithfuls/
Urchin/DH/The Crew/CW/BBFC

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:53:11 EST
From:    PF820@a.......
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

Hi,
    I usually just lurk, but I find I actually can answer one of the
questions asked about why churches are locked in the US.  I have been a
police officer in a major urban area for over 13 years.  In that time,
unfortunately, I have seen the desecration of more than one church.  Not
necessairly all Catholic.  Churches commonly keep articles that if they are
not actually gold or jeweled, look like they are.  It is mostly kids that
break in and graffitti up churches and schools however, once in a while a
thief will go in looking for gold crucafixes, chalices and whatever else of
value might be inside.  In only one incident of many, were the offenders
bona-fide devil worshippers.  Right down to the inverted crosses tattooed on
their chests.  They broke into one of the larger churches and were only
interested in religeous articles and statuary.  Maybe it was all that
Catholic education I survived, but these guys actually gave me the willies
cause they were totally serious about what they were doing.  They confessed
that they had taken the items in order to set up an altar for their black
mass!!!!  More than a few of us were VERY uncomfortable with the whole thing.
 Hope that answers your question.
Patty

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:02:00 EST
From:    MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Yky...

You knw you've been working too hard when...

I've got a job at a local video store, and the other day, I was shelving
some..."older people" films, when I came across a little dandy called
"Forever Night". Very gothic looking, but it had absolutely nothing to do
with our show, outside of its name :)

However, we just got in a new movie called "Titanic 2000", which features,
you guessed it, vampires on the Titanic. No, I won't see it, because it's
just a pseudo "older people" film for people who are too chicken to go into
the backfilm :)

And one last thing, this guy came into today, and his name was.... Darryl
Schanke  (I asked him about it, and it's pronounced  "Shankie")

Just a cute anecdote. :)

MadiHolmes
Cousine Formidable/GSS

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:05:15 -0500
From:    Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

Well, I'm not sure if I can answer all your questions, but here
goes:

"Doņa Angel D.S." wrote:
> #1--I know that in season 3 GVP ep the church was named St. John's
> Church/The Church of St. John, but do not recall that the name of the Church
> was ever mentioned in FIHS--but they were definitely 2 separate churches.

Yes, they are 2 different churches. The church in FIHS is St James
Anglican Cathedral, 65 Church St at King St East.

The church in GVP is St Annes Anglican church on Gladstone Ave.

>   a) In Canada, is the generally
> accepted practice--and in TO in particular--to have some Masses in the same
> church to be some regularly celebrated in English and some in French?

Toronto is one of the most multicultural cities in the world. Masses
are certainly said in English, French, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean,
Tagalog, Italian, Portuguese and I suspect in many other languages
as well.

> #3--I understand that in some countries, churches used to be unlocked, but
> here in the US it is no longer <snip> What's the
> situation in Canada?

I don't know about churches in general, but when I take people on
the FK Tour of Toronto, St James Cathedral is usually open until
4pm, unless services are in progress. It's quite a lovely church.
There are no confessionals, of course, since its an Anglican church.

> #4--finally *g*--how do you spell the name of that kind young priest in FIHS
> ep?

Rochefort <g>

--
Marg, in Toronto, the City of the Knight  <mytoronto@h.......>
Please visit the Upper Canada Connection -
A Canadian Tribute to Geraint Wyn Davies:
http://members.home.net/gwducc/index.htm

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:08:34 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

In a message dated 3/18/00 11:30:27 PM Central Standard Time,
donaangel@h....... writes:

>    I'm assuming--from how things looked in FIHS, that the church was a REAL
>  church, not a "set" built for FK filming purposes--so can anyone who is
>  familiar with TO tell me what the name of the church is that was used, and
>  it looked as if it was "in the city"--is it in RL? {{{This is asking a lot,
>  but does anyone know the RL street name, too?}}}
>
I don't recall if I was told the actual name of the church used, but while
visiting Toronto a few years ago, after hunting for the church, we asked Greg
Kramer if he knew which was used. He said he *thought* it was a church that
had been converted into a theater (stage) but had unfortunately burned at
some time after the episode was filmed. I want to stress I'm stating this
from memory, and he wasn't positive himself.

A couple of friends and I think we found the location - and it was on a lot
on which some sort of construction was going on.

--Libby

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:27:24 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

In a message dated 3/19/00 12:11:06 AM Central Standard Time,
mytoronto@h....... writes:

> Yes, they are 2 different churches.
Well, this certainly explains some of the confusion my friends and I had
while trying to find the location! My guess is that we did find one of them
as we kept thinking it looked "right."  Hahahah

For those of you who have never been to Toronto, it is funny to be simply
walking around and then realize a place you've never set on is somehow VERY
familiar! Sort of a YKYBWTMFK moment ;-) We didn't get to take one of the FK
Tours due to scheduling problems, but Marg kindly called us at the hotel to
make sure we felt at homr and were having a good time!

The highlight for me was Screed's Grave. Yes, armed with nothing more than a
poorly done map with a red circle indicating the location, we trekked out WAY
down the beach. To our surprise, some of the pebbles were arranged in such a
way that it really did resemble something of a grave. Wot wuz a poor
Ratpacker type o' droog ta do but ta bow down 'umbly and 'onor the Screed.
'Course we know 'e's jest takin' a bit o' a snooze.

--Libs

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:31:32 -0500
From:    Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

Libratsie@a....... wrote:
> visiting Toronto a few years ago, after hunting for the church, we asked Greg
> Kramer if he knew which was used. He said he *thought* it was a church that
> had been converted into a theater (stage) but had unfortunately burned at
> some time after the episode was filmed.

The church you're thinking of here is the one that was used as
Vachon's church, on Webster Ave and Yonge. It burned down and is now
a construction site of yet another condo, if any Vaqueros out there
are considering taking up residence here. <g>

--
Marg, in Toronto, the City of the Knight  <mytoronto@h.......>
Please visit the Upper Canada Connection -
A Canadian Tribute to Geraint Wyn Davies:
http://members.home.net/gwducc/index.htm

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:07:07 +0100
From:    Llarian <manulanger@t.......>
Subject: Re: Episodes Archives Pages and Fortune City

First of all: Oopss! Sorry,  I forgot to delete the text Nancy
wrote in my earlier post.

Well,  it seems FortuneCity has a major problem. It's not
only Nancy's, Becky's and my pages that have disappeared.

Whole districts seem to be down. Right now, upload is impossible.

If any of you have sites at FortuneCity, better go check if they
are still there.

And to keep this on topic (winking at McLisa): What would the
FK-vamps do if their websites disappeared?

LaCroix: Drain the admin
Nick: Angst over the content - maybe he did upload something
that was not acceptable?
Vachon: Nothing - he's too much of a slacker to maintain one.

Anyone else?

Hugs,

Llarian
mailto:manulanger@t.......
Join the SciFi-Crossover-Webring at:
http://home.tronet.de/manulanger/index.html

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:30:24 -0800
From:    Rayne <rayne_koest@y.......>
Subject: Re: "For I Have Sinned" Ep-Related Questions

To the list:

I accidentally erased the person's addy, so here is my
answer ( posted here).

From Vancouver:
> accepted practice--and in TO in particular--to have some
>Masses in the same  church to be some regularly celebrated
> in English and  some in French?

I haven't attended mass in TO so I can't say with 100%
certainty, for the rest of Canada:
Other than Quebec, some of New Brunswick and a few
scattered towns Canada is pretty anglophone. Most parishes
just use English, but a "Language group, ie. Portugues" RC
curch would have masses in both. So it may occur but I'd
think that that would more common in cities of Quebec. TO
is a very anglophone city.  Certainly a French Cdn. Parish
(possibly attached to a school) would likely have mass in
both languages.

>    b)--in Canada, like in the US, do you have a "Vigil
> Mass" on Saturday  nights and the evening before a Holy
> Day that will "fulfill your
> obligation",i.e. 'count' for your Sunday Mass and Holy
> Day Mass?

We have an Easter Vigil but I don't think it counts for
Sunday mass, at least my family always went the next day -
or maybe it was just me becuase I was an altar server.. hmm
maybe you are right my mom won't often go both. RC customs
around the world should be pretty even across the board
tho.

> #3--I understand that in some countries, churches used to
> be unlocked,  What's the
> situation in Canada? [I assume that here there is the
> fear of vandalism

It depends where you live. Small town churches are still
unlocked, the chapels at the University I attend are always
unlocked (3 or 4th largest in Canada). Cathedrals &
cathedral-like churches in downtowns are open (at least for
the daytime). My home parish in the 'burbs is locked tho.

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Date:    Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:57:26 -0600
From:    Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Challenge

"Stephanie S. Babbitt" wrote:

> Is it the "forkni-l" list on Onelist where y'all are keeping track of this?
> I did a search on Onelist for "forever knight" and got no fewer than 68
> lists. <sound of mind boggling>

Yup, it's on the forkni-l@o....... site.    If any of you are just
interested in the Faction Challenge Charity Drive, skip everything else and see
my sig line.

I originally "grabbed" the listname over there just in case THIS list
(@l.......) wanted or needed to move.  McLisa and Don know it's there if
we ever want/need to use it, but for now, it's open to anything. I DO NOT want
people to drop this list and move over there, but you may want to subscribe to
it as a companion to this list, and take advantage of some of onelist's
features, such as:

   * Calendar - post FK alum alerts and member's birthdays  (and be sure to set
     Alum Alerts to send a reminder before the event!!!)  There's already a
     couple of things posted over there... you'll have to stop in and see for
     yourself!
   * Chat Room - an online chat that's always available
   * Links - put your favorite FK links/URLs here for everyone else to see.
     Great way to promote your own page.
   * Database - can be used for lot of things...   Kickstart the Knight
     contact/mail info comes to mind as one thing.

The list -- for now -- can also be used if something needs to be taken offlist
from here, but people still want to discuss it.  Currently, there are no
restrictions or requirements on postings, (anything goes) but if I feel that
someone is abusing the list, I reserve the right to implement whatever is
necessary.

You can set yourself to NO MAIL/Web Only and still take advantage of all the
other features.

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Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:47:39 -0800
From:    Rayne <rayne_koest@y.......>
Subject: Re: Your Daily Vote & FK's Position

Hi guys,

I just have to add that I think Nancy has made a good
point. If you are serious about voting then try and make it
a habit ( like brushing teeth). If you need help reminding
yourself make a list of where you vote and stick it on your
monitor with a piece of tape (works with me).

 I'm sure that bi weekely or weekly reminders would work as
well.

Frankly I think that TPTB will do little on the basis of
internet charts. Be logical folks. They not going to make
the effort unless they get some "____" good NON internet
reason to resurrect it. They know that net results may be
unreliabe or may too easily skewed by religiouisly voting
monopolized by die hards. What I hope for( at best) is more
reruns.

Rayne.

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