File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605B" Part 12 TOPICS: Nigel Bennett at Syndi-Con: East The Hair Thang (3) (07/14)The Thin LIne Between Dark and Dawn Nick's hair (4) The Hair Thing (2) Hair, Long Beautiful Hair, Curling, Waxen, Flaxen... fiction request AOL FK Chat Logs! Starlog Yearbook Vice Versa--the unnamed faction I don't get it (2) Explanation re: Toronto List Party - Nothing has been finalised yet. FK Ad in Entertainment Weekly a plea for help Dear PTB... (2) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 13:36:31 -0500 From: williamsSubject: Re: Nigel Bennett at Syndi-Con: East Jeannie Moody wrote: > > I had to delurk tonight to add my voice to others I have read here who > have said that if given the opportunity by all means go to a con attended > by Nigel. He is very funny, very charming and very friendly. I saw him > at his later appearance on Saturday. My opportunity was taken away from me...I had to work! : ( > And since I'm "out" so to speak, I have a question that's been nagging me > for quite a while now. Does one have to apply for membership into a > faction or does one just announce that one is a Cousin? Congratulations on your Cousinhood! Welcome! -- Michelle, The Consummate Cousin williams@m....... http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~williams/home.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 10:09:49 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf Subject: The Hair Thang I have been following this whole hair thing and I just want to put in my two cents worth. My favorite hair on Nick was in two episodes: Hunters and Human Factor. The look of wild, pressed into the corner look. A hunted look! I shuttered at his look at the beginning of the season, just too short! The hair of the last few episodes have been ghastly. Total Frizz! BTW has anyone mentioned the difference of GWD's hair in FK and in his HL ep, Hush Little Baby and Dracula, the Series. That hair looks like the real, touchable stuff, not the sprayed-within-an-inch-of-it's-life hair of FK. Yes I am a Knightie. Robbi Knightie Long Live the Knight! egersdor@m....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:00:58 -0400 From: Dotti Rhodes Subject: Re: The Hair Thang At 10:09 AM 5/12/96 -0500, Robbi wrote: >GWD's hair in FK and in his HL ep, Hush Little Baby and Dracula, the >Series. That hair looks like the real,touchable stuff. > What? That slick backed yukkie of Dracula the Series looked touchable? No way, it looked like if you tried to touch it you'd slide right off!!! Take a look at Ger's Deadly Harvest hair...there is so much of it...I haven't seen Hush Little Baby yet, but yes I did like his Highlander hair. I do agree it was far too short before.... Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever dottir@w....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 11:39:28 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf Subject: Re: The Hair Thang Date: Sunday, 12-May-96 03:00 PM Dotti Rhodes wrote: At 10:09 AM 5/12/96 -0500, Robbi wrote: >What? That slick backed yukkie of Dracula the Series looked >touchable? No way, it looked like if you tried to touch it you'd slide >right off!!! I was refering to the scenes when he was human and there was scene they showed him in the light talking to the boys' mother. I certainly wasn't talking about the slicked back stuff. Yuk!! >Take a look at Ger's Deadly Harvest hair... Sorry, I don't have access to this. Robbi Knightie Long Live the Knight egersdor@m....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 11:33:40 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf Subject: (07/14)The Thin LIne Between Dark and Dawn Disclaimers: These characters and the FK concept are not mine. They were created by James Parriott and Barney Cohen. I have just borrowed them. The other characters and situations are mine and I take full responsibility. The Thin Line Between Dark and Dawn Part 7 by Robbi Egersdorf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick entered the station with a smile on his face and a spring in his step. Joe Reese watched from his office as the detective walked over and took his place at his desk. "Nick, in my office." The Captain called, standing in his doorway. Nick walked in and took a seat opposite Reese, who had seated himself behind his desk. "You look more rested than I think I've seen you in a long time. What happened? The last time I saw you, you were coming apart at the seams. I honestly didn't know if you would be back." "Well, Cap I have had a burden lifted from my shoulders that has been weighing me down for a long time and I feel great." "Great. Then I think it's safe to say we can get back to work. If you find Sanchez, he can update you. He kind of stepped into your place while you were gone." "Thanks, I will." Knight rose and left. Reese sat in his chair, his hands on his desk, fingers interlaced, shaking his head. "I wish I could feel that good again." Opened the papers on his desk and started reading. Henry Sanchez, who usually filled in here and there wasn't hard to find. A very outgoing young man of about 28, seemed to always be the center of attention when he was around. He always had a story or a humorous quip. Tonight was no exception. "Hey, Sanchez. Cap said you could bring me up to speed on what's been going on while I was gone." "Sure, Knight. Just a minute," to his enraptured audience, "I'll finish the story later." Henry pushed some papers around his desk, found the set he wanted then threw them down in front of Nick. "Day before yesterday we found another house just like the first. Everything covered with blood. Here are the reports. No clues, no leads, no suspects as of yet. Natalie can brief you on her end . Tonight is Tracy's night off so there you are. Anything else?" "That will do just fine. Thanks." After sitting down and going over the reports, he made his way over to the morgue. Natalie was bending over her latest case when Nick arrived. "What's up?" "Oh, hi Nick. Jane Doe suicide I'd say. Witness watched her jump off the bridge. It's pretty cut and dried." She pulled the sheet back up over the face. "Sanchez said you could fill me in on the blood houses." "Yeah, just a minute, let me get my info." She removed her gloves then washing up. Walking over to her desk, she punched a few keys on her computer. "The blood from both houses were mostly mixed types with preservatives added . The same type they use in blood banks. A shipment of blood had been hijacked as it was being delivered to the hospital and ten units were taken the day before we found the first house. The only witness, the driver is still in a coma and not talking. There was another hijacking of blood shipment the day before we found the second house. This time outside the blood bank. Same situation. The driver was found unconscious, but not expected to live. Last I heard, he's still hanging in there." "How about the victims?" "Both elderly ladies, retired, no family locally. No connections yet. Both died of blood loss after multiple slashing with a very sharp object. No weapon as of yet." "Thanks." He turned to leave then turned back, "How about we grab something to eat later, say about two?" Natalie hesitated, her face blank. Nick couldn't read her. "Sure. I can work it so I'll be free." "See you later then?" "Yeah, see you." He left and she stared at the door after him. "Boy, that's going to take some getting used to." ******************** Nick thought to himself. He couldn't hear as well, his power's of persuasion were gone and flying and getting shot were out of the question. There would be no bouncing back from that anymore. He was going to have to be very careful or this hard won mortality could end with a bullet. How many times had that vampiric constitution of his save him? He had lost count a long time ago. What if he forget and got in front of a bullet? There would be no second chances. Dead is dead. The enormity of the possibility of death rattled around in his head as he drove back to the station. It continued to plague him as he poured over the papers Sanchez had given him. He was unused to fear and failed to recognize the signs as they grew - the shaking, the sweaty palms and the increase in heart rate. "Nick, you all right?" It was Natalie and Nick had been so startled, he had knocked his papers on the floor. She had been able tosneak up on him just like that. He hadn't sensed her or heard her coming. She laughed as she bent to help him recover his papers. "Nick, you got too wrapped up in those reports and you forgot our lunch date. Two o-clock. Remember?." Quickly, he glanced at his watch. Sure enough, it was two-thirty. "I thought for sure I had been stood up." and she laughed again. "I'm going to have to do something or I'll go stark raving mad. How do you do it, Nat?" "Do what?" "Live like this. Normal I mean." "Well, Nick you need to take it one step at a time. You can't run until you've learned to walk. If you take it slowly, you'll be all right." The papers were placed back on the desk in some semblance of a stack. "Let's forget about that for now and go get some lunch." Nick was glad for the distraction, and such a pretty one to. He hadn't been able to concentrate on what he was reading anyway. He had read the same paragraph over and over again and still was no closer to making any sense of it. Natalie handed Nick his coat then half pulled half drug Knight to the door and her waiting car. ******************** The crowd of vampires were thinning. All mortals had left long ago. Soon it would be closing time. Lacroix was just finishing the last of his monologue on CERK radio, preparing to sign off for the day. Nicholas still sat at the bar drinking what he had spent so many years swearing off. It thrilled him to see his son return to his true nature. There was still a part of Nicholas that was hidden from him. All seemed good, yet Lacroix had reservations. Seeing his son act more *naturally* gave him a hope that he hadn't had for centuries. Lucien had been patient with the reasons Nicholas had given for his behavior through the years. Lately Nick had had several serious setbacks. Each time had given the master vampire more hope that his creation would come back to the vampire community and accept the gift he had been given. That was all Lacroix had ever really wanted from him. "Hey, Knight," came a voice as he felt a pat on the back. I heard you were back. Anything going on?" He took the stool beside Nick at the bar and ordered the usual. Nick turned and scowled at the newcomer, Vachon. He had probably stopped off for a little refreshment before going back to the abandoned church he called home. "Don't call me that anymore." he growled at the younger vampire, "I'm Nicholas DeBrabant." "A little touchy aren't we?" "Just don't call me Knight anymore." "Okay, Okay. I got it." After a long interval of silence, Nick volunteered, "I met a friend of your's the other day. An old American Indian named Raincloud." Vachon looked over to DeBrabant. "I seem to remember him. I brought him across maybe 200 years ago as Screed and I were traveling along the Oregon coast. We came across his band. They were dying of Small Pox. He begged me to bring him across so he could continue to heal his people. Sad lot. Proud people though. The diseases the whites brought with them nearly wiped them out." Nick continued to stare ahead, "He says all his people are dead since early this century." He took another sip of his drink. Vachon grunted, "Sorry to hear that. Where did you run into him anyway?" "He's living in a cave in the middle of sagebrush country." His face nor his voice gave any hint of emotion. "Small world, huh." Then Javier picked up his glass and made his way over to talk to Urs before he had to leave. She had been sitting at the other end of the bar watching the exchange. "What's with Knight...Excuse me - DeBrabant over there? So glum." He gave a look over his shoulder at the other vampire who hadn't changed positions or expression. "Oh, him. He's been sitting there all night like that. Not a whole lot of use for anyone. He seems kind of strange tonight." "Your telling me." He slammed down the rest of his drink, wiped his mouth with his sleeve, "Got to run. See you tonight." She acknowledged his departure with a nod in his direction, then looked back to Nick as she sipped her own drink. end of part 7 Robbi Knightie With Dark Tendencies Loving the Angst egersdor@m....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:39:00 -0400 From: Nathanial Cook Subject: Re: Nick's hair On the hair thing you wrote: >Well Nat, now you'll get some support. I've posted before that I like Nick's >hair longer. The difference in the third season as compared to the second >(he had hair approximately the same length in the second season) I believe >is the way it is styled. In the second season the sides were swept back and >the back of his hair was curlier (is that a word?). This season his hair >seems to have received less attention from the set stylist. Whether that is >due to time constraints is anyones guess. Or budgetary constraints -- which, I know, is what caused the time constraints. Still, it just surprises me that it would affect only Nick and not the other characters. I mean, if the time/budget were a problem, wouldn't the other actors be stuck with mussy hair as well? Sigh, after seeing some of the recent episode, I kept on wondering just *how* good the season coulda been if the show hadn't been cancelled half way through. Sigh. Well, off to find a comb (I have one?). NAT!!! (Touseled Feathers -- Raven) NatRobin@a....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:39:25 -0400 From: Nathanial Cook Subject: Re: Nick's hair About hairy hair, you wrote: >Well, I for one like guys with long disheveled hair. It's more fun to run your hands through. :-) Cool!!! Someone who likes it long *and* messy! You're a rare find. NAT!!! (Long and Mess Raven) NatRobin@a....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:40:22 -0400 From: Nathanial Cook Subject: Re: The Hair Thing Happy happy, joy joy!!! >And when a dear friend of mine went back into the military reserve and cut >his shoulder-length hair and shaved his beard, I honestly cried. Yeah, that's another pet peeve of mine -- so many women these days are down on beards, etc, unless it's the "hip" goatee thing. And chest hair too! Man, after all the women I've heard gripe about having to shave their legs and armpits ('scuse the graphics here!), you'd think they'd be more understanding about men's body hair. But no -- now we've got men shaving their chests, etc. Puh-leeze. >I *do* wish they'd been able to do LaCroix with long hair in several >flashbacks -- quite frankly, his buzz cut *doesn't* work in several time >periods (Fever, as a prime example). Wow. you're right about that. They played around with Nick's look a lot in flashbacks, but hardly ever touched their other characters. >The way I understand it, Hair got consistantly shorter in the earlier part >of last century, for both men and women, as a sort of revolt against the >monstrous wigs and hair styles of the late 1700s. It probably had something to do with industrialization too. Long hair might be some what impractical for working with all those dangerous machines. Also, we had the good old 1980s recently, where everything had to be neat and perfect. That's when power was in and "greed" was "good." (see "Wall Street"). Men had long hair, but it had to be styled, i.e., like him, highly in control. >Ah, for the good old days, when *men* took two hours to get their cravets >right, and *nice* girls didn't *wear* makeup! Well, I don't know if I want to have to spend all that time and effort to get style, but I definitely agree with you about the makeup. They've got most women believing that they *must* wear makeup to look good. My wife rarely wears the stuff, and I personally like it better that way!!! "Variety is the spice of life." NAT!!! (No Curlers, No Lufa Pads, Raven) NatRobin@a....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:33:17 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf Subject: Re: Nick's hair Nataniel Cook wrote: >Or budgetary constraints -- which, I know, is what caused the time >constraints. Still, it just >surprises me that it would affect only Nick >and not the other characters. I mean, if the time/budget >were a problem, >wouldn't the other actors be stuck with mussy hair as well? It seems to me that in Fancesca, Tracy's hair was wild. Not the every-hair- in-place-no-matter-what that we have been used to. Robbi Knightie Long Live the Knight egersdor@m....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:51:50 -0400 From: "\"Staci Hirsch\" Any information on The Fight to keep this" Subject: Re: The Hair Thing Thank you NatRobin!! I hate men with short hair and no chest hair (I once dated a guy with hair on his back-I loved it. Too bad he was a jerk). The longer the better. I think that is why I took to Vashon so quickly. The hair and the five o'clock shadow...oops, I am about to become naughty! BShabbat@a....... (Staci Hirsch) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 17:10:28 -0400 From: Apache Subject: Hair, Long Beautiful Hair, Curling, Waxen, Flaxen... Right, flaxen. I like Nick's hair as long as possible. And I like scruffy and windblown, too -- I'm nuts about Vachon's just-flew-in-or-got-off-the motorcycle look -- it was Tracy, not Apache, who had that itch with the hairbrush . Cheers, Apache HELP SAVE REAL LIFE! Visit http://members.aol.com/FuzNatLamb/SaveRealLife.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 17:29:55 -0400 From: Lisa Reeves Subject: fiction request A thousand thank you's to the authors who remembered this today....and a small reminder to those who didn't? If your piece contains spoilers for a recently aired episode, please put that in the header/first couple of lines. Nothing like being spoiled by an author's intro.... Thanks! -- Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d....... GDFN Help Staff Co-Administrator | reevesl@p....... Mercenary for Chocolate - Save Forever Knight! Site for details: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 18:59:06 -0400 From: Marcia Tucker Subject: AOL FK Chat Logs! Good news - the TV Chat Archive in the TV Viewers area on AOL has FINALLY been updated after a three-week hold on chat logs! So the last three Knight Watch (Forever Knight Chat) logs are finally there. That would include the Shrewthering Debriefing chat of 4/29 and the Gillian Horvath chat of 5/6. The TV Chat Archive is accessed through keyword: TV GOSSIP. Those of you not on AOL who wish copies of these logs, please e-mail me with SHREW LOG or GILLIAN LOG in the subject header. BTW, I've already sent the latter to 54 people! Tomorrow night we'll be discussing "Ashes to Ashes" of course. NO LK SPOILERS! Fred Mollin assures me he will edit the Raven lyrics as soon as possible. Whatta guy! Marcia Tucker scfimarci@a....... Dark Knightie / Unnamed / Immortal Beloved AOL FK Chat Host (Mondays, 11 pm ET, in The Remote Control) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 19:22:27 -0400 From: Mei Wa Kwong Subject: Re: Starlog Yearbook Has anyone been able to find this, except the original poster who I believe was in San Francisco? I have been to several bookstores (major chains with large magazine sections) and found nothing. Perhaps someone has the address or phone number for Starlog where this issue can be ordered from? Thanks for your help. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 17:34:48 -0700 From: Bonnela Subject: Re: Vice Versa--the unnamed faction At 07:18 PM 5/10/96 -0700, Dianne Therese De Sha wrote: >Now Jamie has just won the award for "Most Perceptive Reader" for being >the only one to spot a ...um... "interesting" set of typos in one of >Vachon's posts that indicates a lifestyle I really hadn't intended... You mean this wasn't intentional? It was *SO* funny! And here everyone has been going on and on about the Unnamed Faction (LC and Nick) and this one was right under our noses all the time! "No one else had weird rat-sucking friends like Vachon!" Speaking of which, I think the RLFIC-L story which needs to be written is _The Torrey Song._ Hey Stephanie, have you recovered from the last one, want to give this one a go? Bonnie (callalily@l.......) The Vaqueros have a New, Ultra Cool, Not-To-Be-Missed Web Page!!! Prepare yourself to be blown away! Lots of drop dead pictures! Check it out at http://users.lanminds.com/~callalily/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:23:48 -0400 From: Staci Hirsch Subject: Re: I don't get it Hey folks. I am new to this list. Could someone explain this "factions" stuff? BShabbat@a....... (Staci) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:43:15 -0400 From: Will Steeves Subject: Explanation re: Toronto List Party - Nothing has been finalised yet. Dear Fellow List Members (especially in the Toronto area): Sometime yesterday (Saturday the 11th), Ian Curtis posted a message with respect to a list party to be possibly held in the near future. The wording of his message suggested that Lynne Ackerman and I were in the process of organising a party at his residence. This statement, unfortunately, is mistaken - not horribly so, but please allow me to explain. (Incidentally, I don't claim to speak for Lynne, but I get the impression that Ian was also mistaken in using her name). Here are the facts of the situation: After the Shrewthering, I had an idea about organising a post-Shrewthering / Last Knight party. At that time, I was merely suggesting the idea, and looking for a place to hold the event. A few days later, a fellow listmember (whom I'll not name in public, as we haven't finalised anything) suggested her residence. A few days later, I heard from Lynne that Ian Curtis had also volunteered his residence. Now, in spite of the fact that I nevertheless preferred the first residence offered, I was willing to consider Ian's residence (in spite of only having met him once, and not actually knowing him altogether too well - however, having said this, fandom _is_ largely about meeting new people, so the idea of a "stranger" hosting a party didn't bother me too much) if the first plan fell through, or if people preferred Ian's residence. Nevertheless, NOTHING HAS BEEN FINALISED YET. Furthermore, Ian probably didn't realise this, but I take a fairly dim view of people giving out my phone number without first asking for my permission. (It's just a polite formality that I insist upon, that is all. For that matter, I usually don't give out other friends' phone numbers without asking them first). Now, while I have kissed and made up (so to speak) with the person who gave my phone number to Ian without first asking me, I was somewhat irritated to note that Ian posted my phone number publicly. I took a VERY dim view of this, but since another list member has accidentally done the same thing before (mind you, we had been friends for about a year), I'll likely get over it eventually. The long and the short of this is the following: I *may* be organising a party for next Saturday (so might Ian, for that matter ; there's surely no law against it). If a location and other details are finalised, then I'll surely announce them. However, as of this moment, nothing has been finalised. Cousin Will --- Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... - "Neil Hull is GOiD" Publisher & Managing Editor, The New Edition (U of T); Nu '96, Psi Upsilon Ontario Area Co-Coordinator, FREE (http://www.vix.com/free) If possession is 9/10 of the law, what's the other 1/10? - Steeves' Laws Vol. I ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 22:06:42 -0400 From: Lesley DeHaan Subject: Re: FK Ad in Entertainment Weekly >If anyone wants to see the ad, I scanned it as a color JPEG and it's >about 80k. Drop me a message and I'll send it to you (or would someone >like to put it on their page or on the ftp site?????). I subcsribe to EW, but I'd love it if you'd e me the ad. Thank you kindly. Lesley =-=-=-= "You're not anybody...unless you're on TV."--Susanne "To Die For" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 19:11:47 -0700 From: Valery King Subject: a plea for help Yeah, I'm gonna be boring and ask for someone to help me out. I went to the World Horror Con this weekend and got back to find the gremlins had been at my university's mailserver again, and I'm missing a couple of digests from Friday. Could some kind soul send me: FORKNI-L digest dated Thur May 9-Fri May 10 and FKSPOILR digest dated Thur May 9-Fri May 10 Thank you kindly (oops, that's another list--tho it applies). I'll give the (few) FK related details of the WHC in another post, after I've had a little rest. Hasta la bye-bye! Valery kingv@u....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 22:12:29 -0400 From: June Williams Subject: Re: I don't get it At 09:23 PM 5/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hey folks. I am new to this list. Could someone explain this "factions" >stuff? > >BShabbat@a....... (Staci) I've forwarded the factions FAQ to you. Ad Astra-June-cousin@w....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 18:37:14 -0800 From: Muldy Sculler Subject: Re: Nick's hair Nat, I do not pay serious attention to a man unless he has long hair. Enough said. Barbara ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 22:07:59 -0500 From: "Stormsinger/J.S. Levin" Subject: Dear PTB... Dear Powers That Be: I know you're out there. I know you read our messages. I know that over 130 messages *per day* come to my box, from FKSPOILR, FKFIC and FORKNI-L. That's a lot of mail. I'm sitting here, a 30-something professional woman, crying in front of my computer over a TV show. Is that neurotic? Is it stupid? Or does it perhaps show the depths you've touched here? I've felt this way about a TV show before, I confess. Star Trek just celebrated it's 30th anniversary. It's made six big screen pictures. It's probably created more spinoffs than any show in TV history, and it's not over yet. It's made *a lot* of money. I cried when it was cancelled, too. I'm not saying that I'm any kind of a barometer, but surely this means something more than my emotional weakness. Like the strength of the product, perhaps? Is Forever Knight the Star Trek of the Nineties? How should I know? I didn't know Star Trek was *Star Trek* until there it was. It was considered a "critical success and a commercial failure" in 1969. I don't think they'd say that now. I don't think it should be said about Forever Knight. It seems to me that the commercial potential is *definitely* there. The people on the net who send those 130 messages a day are all consumers, as are the much larger number of people who just "lurk" and read and watch. But, I'm not a TV Power That Be. You are. This show is what *you* make it. Please reconsider making it dead. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 23:24:20 -0400 From: Staci Hirsch Subject: Re: Dear PTB... You put it right, Stormsinger!! =========================================================================
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