FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9604A Part 7
April 2, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604A" Part 7
TOPICS:
LC, The Whammy, and Stuff...
Liking vampires (was:Re: That Other Show...) (3)
Missing part
Screed (was Re: Continuity, etc) (4)
(Fwd) A.Word.A.Day--farouche
Has this happened to anyone else? (4)
Baseball and FK
That Other Show...
Carouches and Nick (5)
Go vote*****
off-topic
SYSTEM FAILURE
YKYB...
Quid Pro Quo & SyndiCon
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!
People poll
Ummmm...Hand? (2)
Quid Pro Quo & SyndiCon
World Horror Con
FK role playing game
A Frightening Prospect
Writing letters at the Raven story...
Liking Vampires
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:23:55 -0500
From: knust lisa m <lmknus@m.......>
Subject: LC, The Whammy, and Stuff...
I've finally finished all my digests(10 in one day)...and I still have
my sanity...sort of, I think... :)
While all this discussion about SoB and BMV and LC's general whammy
aptitude (announcing the WAT-Whammy Aptitude Test, the vampire equivalent
of the SAT!) was going on, I couldn't help but remembering that in SoB
and Fever (no spoiler here!), when LC was "exerting his influence" so to
speak, he held his hand up in the shape of an "L". Is this "L" as in
Lacroix? Sleep-deprived minds want to know... :)
Also, as I was walking around Colonial Williamsburg this weekend,
besides smirking at all the tourists with their confused, where-am-I-
looks (a tough job, but someone has to do it), I was wondering what a
vamp like Nick would do in a place like this. I mean, our beloved brick
seems to have flashbacks all the time, brought on by minimal connections
to the past. What would happen if he were to wander around a town where
everything (except the tourists of course) looked like it came out of the
18th century? Not that I'm saying Nick ever spent any time in VA, but it
is an interesting picture... Nick driving manuvering the Caddie around
the confusing Williamsburg traffic patterns, catching a glimpse of
someone in colonial garb...(dazed flashback look here)...coming back to
the real world only to find he has hit an unassuming lost tourist (or an
over-stressed college student on a bike if you prefer)! Oh the Horror! :)
Excuse me...I think my brain just rolled out the door...I better
go catch it...
Lisa K.
lmknus@m.......
"For the Blood is the Life..."
"C'est bien simple. Il faut tuer." -LC
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:31:53 -0500
From: Matthew F Funke <mff@h.......>
Subject: Re: Liking vampires (was:Re: That Other Show...)
> I don't mean to nit-pick, but I did NOT get into the show because I liked
> vampires; actually, I got into it despite NOT liking vampires.
Actually, my roommate is the same way; he likes Forever Knight, but
intensely dislikes vampires. He just thinks it's excellent television;
who am I to contradict him?
-- Lost in the Shadows,
Dr Funke (mff@h.......)
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:40:14 -0800
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Liking vampires (was:Re: That Other Show...)
> vampires; actually, I got into it DESPITE NOT liking vampires.
I don't really want to be a "me too" (sorry) but, uh, me too.
Prior to Nick, *Bunnicula* was the last vampire I had any fondness for. :)
I generally avoid R-rated movies, because the pointless violence turns my
stomach, so I still have no intention of seeing IWTV. I don't have anything
against the genre, I just want to make the point that FK *transcends* the
genre. Depending on your pov, FK can be about redemption or
self-knowledge or just being different. And so much more! Either way
you evaluate Nick, his existence has been a profound tragedy from the
moment he rejected vampirism.
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... ***
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:45:58 -0500
From: "Sarah A. Houghton" <sahought@m.......>
Subject: Re: Missing part
On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Pat Witham wrote:
> I have to join the club of people who are missing story
> parts. I need Part 3b (posted to the adult list) of The
> Serpent's Kiss by Marg Baskin. Can anyone help?
> Thanks. Pat Witham <catspaw@c.......>
>
I sent this.
--Sarah
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:53:25 -0800
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Screed (was Re: Continuity, etc)
> carouche that brought Perry across in all this mystery? Are there levels
> of carouche, depending on the animal on which one chooses to feed?
That is an interesting question. Excepting Screed, all the
carouches we've ever seen were in BF, right? And the other two, as
Wicked Cousin Tippi observed, were behaving as no completely
sentient/healthy beings would -- sleeping in the dirt, cowering in a
bush. But the one that brought Ralegh across at least understood LC's
instructions to him.
The consensus seems to be that a carouche lacks a master, that
whomever drained them didn't stick around and open up their wrist <g>.
The level of sentience shouldn't be related to the animals fed
on, because Screed is the most sophisticated carouche we've seen, and he
feeds on rats (which I know are smart, BUT...). Besides which, we know
he *can* feed on humans.
I hypothesize (Vaquera alert) that Vachon's friendship is
responsible for Screed's sophistication, that at some point Vachon acted
as a sort of surrogate master. (No, I still haven't seen MBIAV...)
Thoughts?
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... ***
"You have a choice between life and death;
you will get whichever you choose." -- Sirach 15:17
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:55:57 +6
From: Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: (Fwd) A.Word.A.Day--farouche
I wonder if this is where TPTB came up with "carouche"?
Don Fasig ---,-<@
phase3@g.......
Whadda ya mean "fan" is short for fanatic?!
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--farouche
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:23:22 -0500
fa.rouche \f*-'ru:sh\ aj [F, wild, shy, fr. LL forasticus belonging
outside, fr. L foras out]doors; akin to L fores door - more at DOOR :
marked by shyness and lack of polish; also : WILD
1880 OUIDA, Moths I. 298 "She is a little farouche."
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:05:23 -0800
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Has this happened to anyone else?
> FK and these lists are taking over my life.
Mine as well, though I believe Jamie won the "no life beyond FK"
competition... :) I sat down this morning planning to go nomail on the
main list for a few weeks, until I choose a grad program and redeem a
few classes, but I just can't bring myself to do it...
> Does this get better? > Help.
"Better" is such an ambiguous term... :)
I'm barely out of newbiehood -- I'm sure I'm still trailing strings of it
behind me as I go -- but I have noticed that once I'm satisfied with my
interpretation of something, I'm less likely to care how it gets worked
out each time the question comes up. I believe I have noticed, as a
general rule, that people post less often the longer they've been here,
perhaps for that very reason. If I may humbly offer a piece of advice to
all of my fellow newbies? USE the delete button. SKIP things that seem
redundant, or that don't interest you. If you don't like Nick (my hero!)
then feel fully justified to move on to things about LC or Nat or whomever.
Of course, the only really viable alternative is to convert the entire
world to FK so that all of society can be like forkni-l... :)
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... ***
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:34:37 -0500
From: Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......>
Subject: Re: Has this happened to anyone else?
Linda
From someone who know - it only gets worse.
Here I am a CPA , in the middle of tax season, who is far behind because I
spend to much time on FK.
In fact, yesterday, I forget to go onto the CHAT- I was doing corporate
returns and I lost track of time. Now I am mad at myself that I didn't stop
in time.
I am going to the Gerthering, I am going to the Shrew - talk about obsession.
All I can think about is that "D" last episode.
So again, we all spend to much time and no one else wants to hear us talk
constantly about the show. That is why you have 900 other list members to
talk to.
Sue
Susankenn@a.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:43:45 -0600
From: Kimberley <$LOWKD@b.......>
Subject: Baseball and FK
No this is not concerning the day-like lights they put into the Chicago
baseball park. (Was that in Nick Knight or Dark Knight or both?) It has to
do with CJOH's policy of taking FK off the air once baseball starts. Does
anyone in that area know if they are planning on changing that policy for
"Last Knight"? Or, does anyone know if they will have the rights to the end
of this season and be able to show them at the beginning of next year?
Many questions for someone who has no clue where she'll be come the middle
of May.
Kimberley *NatPacker* ($lowkd@m.......)
"Canada needs ghosts, as a dietary supplement, a
vitamin taken to stave off that most dreadful of modern
ailments, the Rational Rickets." Robertson Davies
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:51:22 EST
From: Ian Curtis <102425.1537@c.......>
Subject: Re: That Other Show...
>My logic to this: I figure, while Kindred is on, the list'll be pretty dead
>for about half an hour, after which it'll explode (or at least trickle) with
>discussion (the angels with trumpets, anyone?). Remember, this would be the
>last sign of the Apocalypse. Now, if we can just figure out the other six...
something tells me that the other six will be the show itself!
Great! now I'll be on the lookout for raving Catholics screaming
"THE END IS NEAR!!!" I always new tha FOX would do us all in...
- Ian Curtis
"Oh, you'll never see my shade,
or hear the sound of my feet,
while there's a moon over
Bourbon Street" - Sting
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:18:57 -0500
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: Carouches and Nick
Gang:
This is probably such an obvious question that I'm stupid for asking,
but here goes: since Nicky-boy dines exclusively on bovine blood, doesn't
that make *him* a carouche?
<runs, ducking various missiles thrown by Knights, Knighties, and
Dames)
Pat -- Lone Nanette, B-Negative FoD, Web Page Designer-In-Training
"Quid pro quo, Clarice. You tell me things, I tell you things."
-- Hannibal Lecter, "Silence of the Lambs"
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:55:24 -0500
From: Carla Pickering <carlap@e.......>
Subject: Go vote*****
Hey all--Annmarie suggested going to the site below to vote fore PEOPLE
mag's most beautiful people. They did not say they all had to be women. I
voted for 5 from FK and was told my selections were most unique.....Comeon,
lets zap them with our cast!!!!
"http://pathfinder.com/@@7z5Z2yIWOgAAQHmv/people/beauties/beautiespoll.html"
Carla at Crowhawwk in Exeter, RI
going crazy this week with
Joanna the Wolfish Wonderpup --who is trying to maintain my sanity
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:24:14 -0600
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: off-topic
My mail's been screwing up. If anyone private mailed me between 10:30 am
march 30 and 8:30 am april 1, or today after 10am, plese resend it. Danke!
ObFK: Ummm... I like Uncle! (duh)
(what can I say? I just woke up, and remembered a test I have in two hours
which I haven't studided for in three weeks. Please excuse any annoyance or
non-Cousinly angst)
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
A Real Maan.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel
I wanted a steak, not a STAKE.
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:43:35 EST
From: Tanya Smith <BODYBLDR@V\v.......>
Subject: SYSTEM FAILURE
Major system failure today, folks. Please be patient. I am not rude,
rather, I am "muted" by my computer.
Thanks
Tanya
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:03:55 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: YKYB...
...when you're listening to NPR's news show "The World"... during
which they often mention sponsors between stories. One of their
sponsors is apparently a large pharmecutical corp. No biggie...
...until you hear "The World is brought to you by Merc(k)..."
:-)
Dianne
(finally! We get the recognition we deserve! Mercs unite! <bg>)
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <Goddess@m.......>
-*-"We must be powerful, beautiful, and without regret."-*-
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:10:36 -0700
From: Dorothy Elggren <delggren@m.......>
Subject: Re: Has this happened to anyone else?
Are the lists taking over my life? A month ago I had to go nomail for a
week while I was out of the office. I sat here with the mail message ready
to go for ten minutes, my hand poised over the send key, unable to make
myself do it. Finally, I closed my eyes and pressed the key and sent it,
and suddenly I felt all alone in the world without my list fix....
Dorothy
delggren@e.......
I don't like being nomail. It's quite annoying, actually.
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:25:54 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Quid Pro Quo & SyndiCon
On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, Tara Housman wrote:
> --Isn't ANYONE other than Denise Underwood coming to SF for Syndi-Con?
> C'mon, folks! Nigel Bennett is confirmed!
Actually Tara, my sister Kira <AloraKira@a.......> is in the North Bay
(Santa Rosa Area) and she is going to try to make it. If she can
afford it (AOL is torturing her now, or she would have posted that herself).
Unfort. I won't be able to make it because I will still be in NYC.
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker: Yes, I am *both* a Nick&NatPacker & Valentine
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:33:59 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Screed (was Re: Continuity, etc)
Amy writes:
>were behaving as no completely sentient/healthy beings would --
>sleeping in the dirt, cowering in a bush.
But Vachon (who is not a carouche) slept in the dirt after his master
(mistress?) let herself be burned up by the sun in the Black Buddha
flashback. So did the Inca.
>The consensus seems to be that a carouch lacks a master
Is it?
>I hypothesize...that Vachon's friendship is responsible for Screed's
>sophistication, that at some point Vachon acted as a sort of
>surrogate master.
My opinion is that Vachon *is* (was) Screed's master. I think Fever
is off spoiler protection (I hope). In that episode, when Vachon
comes to Nick's to get Nat's help for Screed, he mentions that he
can't take Screed to the hospital for several reasons, one of which
is that he is 450 (or 400 something!) years old. I think what might
have happened is that Vachon boarded a ship Screed worked on
(Screed's comment that he "never felt right on land" and other
things seem to indicate he was a sailor), attacked Screed and thought
he had killed him (but really hadn't). Screed woke up when Vachon
wasn't around and went for a rat or woke up and got a rat before
Vachon realized he had been brought over. Anyway, I got the
impression in Fever that Screed was almost as old as Vachon. And we
know that Vachon didn't get much "training" after being brought over.
So Screed could have been a mistake Vachon inadvertantly made or
even his first "failure" in bringing someone over *correctly*
perhaps. We know from second season's Bad Blood that vampires can
be made accidentally and without drinking the blood of their masters.
Since Screed prefers animal blood to human blood, maybe that's what
makes him a Carouche. The others we've seen could also be more
animal like because they don't associate with other vampires though.
Mmmm...if it is the *animal* blood that is frowned upon, considered
a social stigma, or whatever, perhaps that's another reason LC is
not so happy with Nick's quest as he's essentially saying, "I'd
rather be a Carouche."
Oh well, just some of my thoughts. :)
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:31:59 EST
From: MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......>
Subject: Re: I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!
On April 1st, Cousin Candice wrote:
>me that SciFi WILL BE PRODUCING and AIRING
> ********NEW EPISODES of FOREVER KNIGHT*****
Dearest Cousin Candice, I want you to know that you are
responsible for my nearly screaming for joy in the little
office where I work, thus alerting my bosses that I was
actually reading smuggled-in FORKNI-L digests instead of
fighting with Excel. Luck, however, intervened and forced
me to check the date of your post AND to read it ALL the
way.... You are truly a cousin to deliver such a twisted
message to us. But I suppose someone had to do it, right? :)
Anyway, since Hand has been sent after you, everything will
be resolved ... in either a cousinly way or a perky way.
Who's to say which will be more evil? Bwahahahaha!
Idalia Kakesako
<NPYF15B@p.......>
wannabe natpacker in major denial over "Last Knight"
Like being happy? DON'T read the LK spoilers!
(And don't panic & immediately send a post about it.) <guilty grin>
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:43:23 -0500
From: Matthew F Funke <mff@h.......>
Subject: Re: Screed (was Re: Continuity, etc)
> I hypothesize (Vaquera alert) that Vachon's friendship is
> responsible for Screed's sophistication, that at some point Vachon acted
> as a sort of surrogate master. (No, I still haven't seen MBIAV...)
> Thoughts?
Intriguing! Is it possible to be "brought across" *twice*? An
earlier post of mine asking if vampires could starve seemed to be
answered pretty unanimously in the affirmative; is it inconceivable,
then, that a vampire could be drained completely, then re-injected with
the blood of someone who is not his/her master/mistress? Would this
bring him/her across again? What sort of effect would this have on the
"Sire/Childer" relationship? Is it possible to have two masters? Is
*this* what causes a carouche?
I realize that this is probably not at all what you meant, but I
find the above possibilities intriguing. If an older vampire were
brought across by a younger vampire on "take two", would the older
vampire lose strength in addition to whatever funky effects being brought
across twice might have? (I know the whole terminology of "being brought
across twice" makes no sense, but it's the only way I can think of to put
what I'm trying to convey. You're not turned into a different creature,
such as the transformation from human to vampire, but the quality of your
vampirehood might change by this confusing turn of events. What I'm
trying to open up to discussion is exactly *how* your vampirehood might
change.) Anyone care to explore this avenue (boulevard?) of thought with me?
-- Lost in the Shadows,
Dr Funke (mff@h.......)
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:47:12 -0500
From: Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: People poll
Oh, it's beautiful. I just checked out the People mag beautiful people
poll. Right there listed with Jennifer Aniston, Paulina Poriskova, et al,
right before my eyes I saw listed... Screed, LaCroix, Catherine Disher!
Too much fun! I added GWD and was told that 0% of the web agrees with me.
C'mon, let's have some fun. Jarvis Cocker (singer) has 138 votes at the
moment and is ranked #1 -- we can blow him out of the water.
Imagine, People facing 1000 votes each for Nigel Bennett, GWD, BB, CD, DD....
-- they won't have a clue. They'll probably go get some picture of the
*other* LaCroix.
Kim B.
flowper@o.......
(Picturing Screed on the cover of People's Sexiest Man Alive issue and
Brad Pitt gnashing his teeth.)
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:00:17 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Ummmm...Hand?
On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, patrick kortner aiex wrote:
> ObFK -- sort of: I may be throwing a combination graduation and FK
> party in Bloomington, IN. That is *if* and ONLY *if* I can get enough people
> interested, and find a suitable location. My condo is terribly small (if
Yeah. That's a terrific idea. I'll be graduating also in May, but don't
know about a place to have the party. Something will come up. However,
by mid June I'll be heavily into studying for the bar exam, but the party
would still make a nice break.
Is Jennifer Lackey still on the list?
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:01:02 -0500
From: Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: Quid Pro Quo & SyndiCon
Hey, Hey All :)
I just wanted to catch this before anyone got really confused.
Tara wrote:
>--I'll finally be able to mail Julie Randolph my Pediatric AIDS
>check. It's been stamped and ready to mail since the beginning of
>February.
Actually, I'm the Pediatric AIDS person.
Lisa Prince (Moonlight@g.......) Official Charity Drive Organizer
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to: Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity,
000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Suite 000, Xxxxxxx, CT 00000-0000
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:15:15 -0500
From: Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Ummmm...Hand?
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, vicki jean merriman wrote:
> Yeah. That's a terrific idea. I'll be graduating also in May, but don't
> know about a place to have the party. Something will come up. However,
Graduating? *gasp* Is that what happens when you get fed up with school
and decide it's time to move on to something else, like the real world
and loose access to the net?
> by mid June I'll be heavily into studying for the bar exam, but the party
> would still make a nice break.
*mutters something incoherent about Toronto...*
> Is Jennifer Lackey still on the list?
Last I knew she was, however she's been working overtime trying to get
numerous things done all at once, and we all know that two hands on an
wonderful person is still only two hands ;)
Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
Toreador by default
winter@j.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:21:02 -0800
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: World Horror Con
Hey gang!
I (in my personna as InterKnight Press) am going to have my very
own dealers table at the World Horror Con in May in Eugene (for those who
don't know me, I publish Forever Net, a zine exclusively of FKFIC-L fiction)
and will be devoting a significant space at the table to The Cause.
If any of you are going, come in and say hi and give a little moral
support! Maybe we can get some of the horror fans to come out for us.
And if anyone wants more info about the Con--I have some now! including
prices, dates, venue, addresses and stuff. Clive Barker and Charles de
Lint are GoHs. Email me and I'll let you know the particulars.
Cheers!
Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:22:54 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Carouches and Nick
At 04:18 PM 4/2/96 -0500, you wrote:
> Gang:
> This is probably such an obvious question that I'm stupid for asking,
>but here goes: since Nicky-boy dines exclusively on bovine blood, doesn't
>that make *him* a carouche?
>
No, I do not believe this makes him a carouche because he does not prefer
animals to feed on, he makes the conscious effort to do so in order not to
kill humans. There's a difference.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:24:28 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Liking vampires (was:Re: That Other Show...)
At 02:09 PM 4/2/96 -0500, Angel wrote:
> The point I'm trying to make is: don't assume only people who "love"
vampires will like >FK!!
>
Brother, why don't I just crawl in a hole this week and not say another
word? Sorry, I didn't mean to assume it, it just appeared to be the general
feeling. Sorry.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:24:49 -0500
From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: FK role playing game
Hi All,
Is there a FK role-playing game? If so where? Also, can someone tell
me how to play masquerade?
As of now i have no other life outside the lists. I used to have
one, but now i can't find it.
Cp-
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:28:14 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: A Frightening Prospect
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Tanya Smith wrote:
> How about Nicholas and Lecroix meet Louis and Lestat from Interview with the
> Vampire (if you haven't read the book by Anne Rice, the parallels are
> uncanny, minus the homoeroticism in Interview).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That's debateable....in fact, it seems to me that this has been debated
rather recently.
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker: Yes, I am *both* a Nick&NatPacker & Valentine
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:01:41 -0800
From: John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject: Re: Carouches and Nick
<199604022151.NAA27422@m.......>
>Gang:
>This is probably such an obvious question that I'm stupid for asking,
>but here goes: since Nicky-boy dines exclusively on bovine blood, doesn't
>that make *him* a carouche?
Nope. Nick explained what a Carouche is with Nat. I'm paraphrasing, but
Nick said that a Carouche feeds off vermin and animals. As far as I
can recall, Nick has never fed off of vermin (rats et. al).
As far as the differences between Vampires and Carouches... I believe
there is no difference other than their tastes for blood. Carouches
apparently don't really care where the blood comes from. Vampires on the
other hand have certain standards for the taste of blood.
I suppose this could be analogous to chocolates. The difference
between a box of Godiva chocolates versus a bag of Hershy's Kisses.
I believe this was discussed on Usenet, but I didn't follow it closely.
Does anyone agree with me? I'm sure there are chocolate lovers here that
will support/kill me on this matter. :)
John
Forever Factionless (at least so far... I'm still looking)
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:55:00 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: Carouches and Nick
John writes:
> >Gang:
> >This is probably such an obvious question that I'm stupid for asking,
> >but here goes: since Nicky-boy dines exclusively on bovine blood, doesn't
> >that make *him* a carouche?
I've always thought of that as part of LC's big problem. Can you imagine
him hangin' out with other vamps <no, wait! I'm not finished! ;-> and
having to deal with "Your kid eats *what*???" <gales of fanged laughter>
Talk about embarassment for a parent...
<g>
> apparently don't really care where the blood comes from. Vampires on the
> other hand have certain standards for the taste of blood.
> I suppose this could be analogous to chocolates. The difference
> between a box of Godiva chocolates versus a bag of Hershy's Kisses.
<sigh> does this make me a Chocolate Carouche then???
Dianne
(It's not that I don't _prefer_ the Godiva... I _do_...
...just don't leave that bag o' kisses lying about unattended... <g>)
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <Goddess@m.......>
-*-"We must be powerful, beautiful, and without regret."-*-
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:04:11 -0500
From: cyndi knecht <cknecht@s.......>
Subject: Writing letters at the Raven story...
Could someone please give me the title and <talented> author of the
fk-fic story dealing with mortals and vampires writing to TPTB at the Raven?
I'd like a copy of it, if possible. Private e-mail if you could. Cyndi
<cknecht@s.......>
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:06:54 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Screed (was Re: Continuity, etc)
Regarding Dr. Funke's comments about being "brought over" twice,
that's an interesting idea that I have sort of played with in fanfic.
I don't recall anything being shown on the show about it, so I guess
we can speculate. Imo, a vampire could be drained and then given
the blood of another vampire and the other vampire could then exercise
some influence over the vampire who had been drained. But I also
think the first master would continue to have an influence over his
child (if that vampire was still alive and near, that is). This could
cause confusion in the drained vampire. It could also be that the
relative strengths of the "masters" would come into play too. Maybe
the fledgling would be more likely to obey the stronger vampire.
But we've seen on FK that vampires drink each others' blood in
intimate relationships. How much effect does blood sharing between
vampires have on the vampires involved? This apparently doesn't
change a vampire into a carouche. So can we extrapolate from that
that the draining of a vampire and adoption of said vampire from
(oops, that should be "by" not "from") a new master would also not
have that sort of effect (although there could be mental disturbance
of some sort)?
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:39:22 -0800
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Carouches and Nick
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Dianne Therese DeSha wrote:
> having to deal with "Your kid eats *what*???" <gales of fanged laughter>
LOL!
Oh, we are FUNNY this afternoon!
(After the "Screed knocking Brad Pitt off the cover of People" post, I
almost thought they'd kick me out of the lab...<g>)
But seriously, do we yet have a working explanation of Nick's *distaste*
for carouches? Usually, he's Mr. PC, but his reaction to carouches
sounded almost... class conscious. The best I've been able to come up
with is that he's still carrying a grudge from what happened to Ralegh...?
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... ***
Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, Fourth Movement
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:47:23 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Has this happened to anyone else?
Remember: the only anything you have is what LC selects to give you.
Hand
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:50:20 -0500
From: Chana Rossman <bonney@i.......>
Subject: Re: Liking Vampires
In response to "I got into it DESPITE NOT liking vampires" Amy wrote:
>I don't really want to be a "me too" (sorry) but, uh, me too.
>I generally avoid R-rated movies, because the pointless violence turns my
>stomach, so I still have no intention of seeing IWTV.
That's ok. Get this -- one night a long time ago when my husband
flipped the channel to "this vampire cop show" he wanted see, I
absolutely and completely *refused* to watch it. Yes, (hanging my
head in shame) you guessed it -- I refused to watch some of the
first episodes of FK. <Heavy, heavy sigh.>
Still longing to see the ones I missed...
Chana
Knightie * Natpacker * Nick&Natpacker
* I am one acquainted with the [K]night *
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