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Digest - 29 Mar 1996

Fri, 29 Mar 1996

There are 16 messages totalling 398 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Pronunciation?
  2. bearer of the cursed Oatmeal Box
  3. Affiliation Pin Orders
  4. What Ep Was That?
  5. Nick/LaCroix Faction Name?
  6. vamps for real or not
  7. List stuff
  8. Multiple replies....
  9. thanks to the napte folks and hl
 10. Missing Parts
 11. Look for lone Nanette & YKYB
 12. Oatmeal
 13. LaCroix's Family (long)
 14. Dreams
 15. Microphonenatics/blood
 16. Pronunciation

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:50:38 -0600
From:    Christy Tucker <ctucker@m.......>
Subject: Re: Pronunciation?

The Wicked One wrote:

>I've heard it 10 different ways from 10 different people.  I'm sticking
>with Fork Knee because it makes me giggle. :)

You know what, I said it like that, and it made me giggle too.  I think you
may be onto something there.

Cousin Christy


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Christy Tucker, Always Right^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"The best way to do it is with scissors." - Alfred Hitchcock
ctucker@m.......***http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~ctucker/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:56:03 -0600
From:    Christy Tucker <ctucker@m.......>
Subject: Re: bearer of the cursed Oatmeal Box

Um, how exactly to I not get the Thing We Should Not Have?  I really want to
not see it.

Cousin Christy


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Christy Tucker, Always Right^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"The best way to do it is with scissors." - Alfred Hitchcock
ctucker@m.......***http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~ctucker/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:34:32 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Affiliation Pin Orders

Just to clarify, if you want an affiliation pin, please send a stamped,
self-addressed, PADDED envelope.

Imagine your pin lying on the sidewalk.  Imagine Nick flying by, deciding to
land, and dropping down right on top of your pin.

That's what the post office does to pins sent in non-padded or non-bubble
envelopes.  It's a very sad thing.

Also, if you're asking for one pin, a small envelope will be fine.  If you
want the set (and will be donating the requisite funds to Pediatric Aids),
please send a fairly large envelope (usually a 9 X 11 will do).

If you want to check out the pins, try
http://www.vitinc.com/~susang/pins.html for a look-see.  All ordering
information can be found there.

Regards

susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:16:47 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: What Ep Was That?

Dotti,
I'm fairly sure the ep you're thinking of is Dead Air.



Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
NatVampCamp/FoSiL

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:12:37 -0500
From:    Nancy McCaskey <mccaskn@p.......>
Subject: Nick/LaCroix Faction Name?

>
> Does anyone else have the sudden urge to call this faction the Greek
> Double-E's?  Yah, it's Greek.  Latin doesn't have the same sound structure

How 'bout the Epsilons?  Or maybe (something) Epsilon Epsilon, so it
sounds like a fraternity.  Frat vamps...a scary thought!

==================================================================
              Nancy McCaskey   mccaskn@p.......
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                  FORKNI-cators have more fun!

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:17:55 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: vamps for real or not

Ray asked:

>     By any chance, did you have a really bad case of either measles or
>chicken pox when you were young?  Both these diseases can leave the optic
>nerves permanently sensative to light (as in my case [measles])  As can
>certain medications

No measles, no serious chicken pox, no tricyclics.  I've been on sulfa, but
my light sensitivity started years before that.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:11:30 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: List stuff


 Ok, I have kept my mouth shut for long enough. Please can you all take
the "tour" stuff off list. I will not pass judgment one way or the
other on the topic...I am just *darn* tired of hearing about it and I
think it has hurt the atmosphere of the list.

  The last week this list has not been a nice place to be, and I
sincerely hope this changes soon.

  As for Reds' post....Thank you...we needed that. Jamie here is a
round of applause from me for your work on the list. I defiantly don't
want your job. How you manage to heard 600+ overly creative people into
some sense of order is beyond me. ( and yes for those of you wondering
...I have had my hand slapped by Jamie ( ok maybe more than once), who
then turned around and personally helped me with a sticky mail problem.)

 So please can we have the old list back now. I am getting tired of
deleting.

With Love, and hope for brighter a tomorrow,

Dona Torrey

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:56:52 -0600
From:    Kimberley <$LOWKD@b.......>
Subject: Re: Multiple replies....

>        I thought we resolved that the "no blood" thing in "STF" was an
>aberration, and that Schanke's blood-type was the universal donor?


I'm pretty sure that Schanke was AB somethingorother.  That definitely isn't
the universal donor.  Bloodtype O is.  (is the negative/positive thing
important?)  In Dark Knight Schanke expressed relief that he _wasn't_ the
universal donor since that was who the killer was after.


Kimberley *NatPacker* ($lowkd@m.......)
Game of gopher, anyone?
"Shouldn't we be doing something - constructive?"
"What did you have in mind?... A short, blunt human pyramid...?"(RAGAD)

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:02:58 -0500
From:    cpl <cpl@b.......>
Subject: thanks to the napte folks and hl

     OBFK, I'm really excited.  I mean I received my NAPTE bag and my Shrew
     ticket in the same day. yippeee  The bags look great.  Now that I've
     seen it in person, I can really appreciate the effort of those
     involved.  cheers!


     OBHL, Sorry, but I really would like to talk to a big HLander fan who
     can answer some of my questions about Methos.  There's *got* to be
     someone on this list.

     thanks,
     ping
     cpl@b.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:00:59 EST
From:    Kenneth Dare <102226.1213@c.......>
Subject: Missing Parts

  Just catching up on some reading and found out that I'm missing "Forbidden
Love" Parts 18, 19, & 20.  Could some one please send then to me.  I can't read
the rest untill I read these. (I can't standing reading things out of order).
  Thanks.

-----------------
Brandy

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:40:12 -0500
From:    Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: Look for lone Nanette & YKYB

WC Tippi wrote:
>>Why can't I just have normal dreams like other
>>people?? <snip> I'm not just warped, I'm WARP FACTOR 9, SCOTTY!

and Cousin "Susan" Phoenix wrote:
>Don't worry, dear, my dreams are just as strange. <followed by description
>of hilarious dream>

I've got a good entry for the screwball dreams contest. In mine, Nick, LC
and I are walking to a local Baptist church to try out for the opera.
(Note: I'm not Baptist, and I don't like opera). On the way there, LC and I
are discussing what the, uh, sleeping arrangements will be with the three
of us now that we're hanging together. Sinister! Then we get to the church,
and suddenly we're back in the middle ages. The church is full of livestock
and peasant people watching folks on stage (a stage in a church? okay..)
Suddenly, they pass the offering plate, and Nick shoves a wad of Candian
money in my hand to put in the plate. Then LC gets on stage and instead of
opera, does a soft-shoe number along the lines of Herod's in "Jesus Christ
Superstar."

I wake up wondering when the men in white coats are going to show...

Stephanie B.
Perplexed Vaquera, wondering where Vachon was in all of this

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:40:18 -0500
From:    Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: Oatmeal

Re the blooper tape: *Why* is it The Thing We Should Not Have? Inquiring
minds want to know.

Stephanie Babbitt
stephanie.babbitt@g.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:42:13 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: LaCroix's Family (long)

Actually, this entire discussion (of Nick and LC's relationship) echos
something that occurred to me as soon as I got my grubby little paws on
pre-third-season episodes:
     Why did LC bring Nick across in the first place?
What on earth did LC see in disillusioned-yet-still-noble Sir Nicholas?
The answer I arrived at has a very different premise than most of the
things on this thread -- including Diane Shea's marvelous post -- so I
thought I'd share.  (Cynthia concurred with me on *part* of this, so I
know I'm not *hopelessly* out in left field. :) )

I think LC brought Nick across for Janette.
Just for Janette, not himself.
I think the entire Nick/LC relationship evolved slowly, over time.
LC has brought a lot of people over in his time, hasn't he?  "Father's Day"
and "Strings," just off the top of my head. And none of those other
vampires have ever constituted his FAMILY -- at least not the way
Janette and Nick do.
        "You can get another one."
        "I don't want another one. I want THAT one."
Obviously there is something special in LC's regard for Nick and Janette,
something that none of his other "children" receive.  He makes vampires
much more casually than he builds his *family.*  (To which I think he
intended to add Fleur from the first, in contrast with Nick...)

In "Dark Knight," we see Janette seducing Nick.  In, "Near Death," we
hear, "Oh, I WANT him."  And I'm sure we all understand exactly how she
feels. :)  It seems to me that LC gave Nick to Janette as a gift.

Of course, the question should arise, "why didn't she bring him across
herself?"  Well, someone on fkspoilr came up with the theory -- which I
REALLY like -- that LC, the Control Freak of the Universe, Lucian "Oh, we
skipped those lessons, didn't we?" LaCroix, never properly instructed his
children in how to bring people across.  Nick has had absolutely
miserable luck in that area, and in "I Will Repay," Janette answered
Nick's question about whether she'd ever brought anyone across with,
"I've never been able to stop myself in time."
(Insert Diane E's completely plausible explanation of the Baronness here.)

Well, that's my bit.  Any thoughts?

In other LC news, I did a web search this morning, for the first time in
a long time, and I've never seen the FK pages looking better! And I love
the title of the new Janette page.  (After reading Natalie's Bed and
Breakfast, it occurred to me to reset the bookmarks on all of my
university's library terminals...<g>)  Anyway, I was looking for Nigel's
age, and was unable to find it.

I know we've been through this before, but I'm afraid I wasn't paying
attention at the time, since I hadn't yet seen "Dark Knight" or "AMPH."
However old NB is now (possibly minus four years) is how old LaCroix was
when he was brought across on August 24, AD 79.  Nero presided over the
great fire fifteen years before, in AD 64.  That means that when Lucian
was at the performance of "The fall of Troy" which got Nero the reputation
for fiddling while Rome burned -- and Nero did perform music in public,
to the horror of his peers -- he was fifteen years younger than NB is
now.  So if (just picking a round number because it is round) NB is now
40, then LC was 25 when he was at the side of the insane and sadistic
Nero.  That is certainly old enough for him to have been an officer, in
that time of short lifespans.  If NB is now 30 (same reason as above)
then LC was 15, which would have been old enough for him to be a guard,
yes?  Or even an aide to an important officer?  Am I missing any other
pieces of this puzzle?

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
"Opinion in good men is but knowledge in the making." -- Milton
Pronunciation-Survey Taker: how do you say "forkni-l"? Or do you?

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:43:26 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Dreams

Stephanie B. writes (re: dreams):
<snip>
> Then LC gets on stage and instead of opera, does a soft-shoe number
> along the lines of Herod's in "Jesus Christ Superstar."
<snip>
> Perplexed Vaquera, wondering where Vachon was in all of this

Well, he was probably in my subconscious... I've been having
nightmares, yes nightmares, about Vachon all week.  I can't remember
them clearly, except for Natalie saying that her diagnosis at the end of
of the dream (last night) was the "the future is never kind."  Tension
about the end of the season, or what?

Perplexed Dark Knightie,
Kim B.
flowper@o.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:45:26 -0500
From:    Diane Shea <KerrRaven@a.......>
Subject: Microphonenatics/blood

Felicia the Ravenette wrote;
>>And double LOL:  *Who* recently made the comment about LaCroix looking like
he was seducing microphones?  I laughed all through a repeat viewing of my
second season tapes every time Nigel leaned closer to that microphone <EG>.<<

Ah, it was me actually.  I hope this won't start another strange faction
about LC and microphones. :)  I could see it now.  Uncle gives up on Nick and
lavishes all his attention on the one object of his desire, that gorgeous
metal mike!

>>And the other excellent point about wherever LC sees blood, he "claims" it
for himself--- I never thought of it in that fashion before.  Is that
intentional on the part of the writers, do you think;  or is it just because
it seems like such a "cool" thing for a vampire master to do <G>?<<

What I want to know is if it was intentional on the part of the writers that
it should be played in such a...suggestive manner.  Or did Nigel feel that he
could create many more dimensions to this character by making him a bit
shocking in more ways than one?  If so, it works!!

Cousin Diane
Happy Victim of LaCroix's Seduction
*Valentine* and New Supporter of LC/Janette faction (yes there's going to be
another faction!!  Just try to stop me!)

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:32:28 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Pronunciation

To repeat something I said a long time ago, I usually pronounce the list
name 'For-Ni'.  If you append the l, the easiest way to think of it is "For
Nigel" and drop the 'g'.

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."

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