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Digest - 28 Mar 1996 to 29 Mar 1996 - Special issue

Fri, 29 Mar 1996

There are 36 messages totalling 1040 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Look for lone Nanette & YKYB (2)
  2. Yay!  Ribena at last!
  3. HELP!! FK in BC????
  4. Popcorn scene (2)
  5. Need help from NYC area!
  6. How I got hooked
  7. Uncle's Sword Pin and sundry matters (2)
  8. Jon Cassar to Visit the Knight Watch Chat
  9. Subject: Couples Factions: A New One! (2)
 10. Weekend with Ger
 11. Weirdstuff/other junk
 12. ADMIN:  ENOUGH!
 13. vamps for real or not (2)
 14. Multiple replies & Question (3)
 15. FK CD
 16. To the Listlord-- everyone else can ignore.
 17. Schanke&Janette/ditto what Carrie said!
 18. Looking for Jennifer Sangiovanni
 19. AIRWOLF... ANOTHER FAMILIAR FACE
 20. sorry...
 21. Thoughts About Screed and the New Vamps
 22. Oatmeal
 23. Yes, I messed up...again
 24. Weekend With Ger!!!
 25. The popcorn scene and fangs
 26. First Season Questions and Thoughts
 27. Pronunciation?
 28. GREAT NK+LC faction name! :)
 29. Nigel/SyndiconWest

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:55:06 CST
From:    Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Look for lone Nanette & YKYB

Pat, you posted a note a couple days back about wanting to archive
stories in your short story collection.  This was before I got my new
internet address set to show headers, so I didn't get your address.
Could you or someone reply to me offlist?  Thaaaanks.

YKYBWTFKW...

You have a dream that Greg Kramer has changed his name to "G. M.
McScreed and is now a grafitti artist who works out the back of his
honda hatchback.  Why can't I just have normal dreams like other
people??  Why can't I dream about Uncle in a thong instead of in clown
pants or hip waders??  I'm not just warped, I'm WARP FACTOR 9, SCOTTY!

Ahem.  That will be all.

Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:59:26 CST
From:    Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Yay!  Ribena at last!

Okay, I didn't buy it, but I found it.  I was perusing the British
aisle(as opposed to the British isles), of the local Fiesta mart (a
giant multi-ethnic super market not 3 blocks from my house), when lo and
behold, there it was!  RIBENA!  I actually cried out, "RIBENA!", as if
I'd just struck gold.  Much to the amusement of the other shoppers, mind
you.

So if anyone's near a Fiesta, you can find Ribena for $4.29 (small size)
and $5.99 (large).  Guess what I'm bringing to the next FK party in
Dallas!

Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:22:42 -0800
From:    Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: HELP!! FK in BC????

My husband and I are driving to British Columbia tonight to stay for a week
at a resort in Kelowna.

Is there anyone on the list who knows when FK will be shown there?

Am I going to be Forever Knightless for <gasp> two weeks?

We'll be at the Holiday Park if you wish to contact me.

I'm already on Digest so please private Emial me if you know.

Thanks,

      Cousin Cherri                          Valentine, Sime/Gen, FKLFE
      <cdmunoz@e.......>                     NATPE Strikeforce Survivor

      I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one.    <LaCroix-Father's Day>
                               FOREVER KNIGHT

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:33:16 -0500
From:    "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Popcorn scene

   RE: Popcorn scene (from Catherine Boone)

   > I think that the scene...is only on the Canadian version.

Not sure which episode it's from, but it's ALSO in the American
version. It's on my CBS tapes - got the logo on the commercial breaks
- and I'm in the USA.

I have *NO* Canadian eps. I'd DEARLY LOVE them, however... <hint!>


  From June Russell:
  > how does Nick go to court to testify about what he found?

Nat drove him - he was in the trunk - to the courthouse and parked in
the underground (?) garage. She also arranged to have the blinds
closed in the courtoom so he wouldn't be directly exposed. I think he
also bought lots of varieties of sunscreens, and was asking Schanke
his opinion on them, particularly the Pina Colada scented one. <grin>
I don't know if the sunscreen was this ep or not, but I'm pretty sure
it was. The tricky part is how he barely managed to cope with having
to take the normal oath - putting his hand on the bible. Am I right
in remembering smoke? Anyway, in the courtroom, someone does open one
of the blinds, letting sun shine on the witness stand, and Nick
starts getting really fidgety. I think it's at that point that he
admits he's "lying" (well, he wasn't, really, but how can he explain
that a mere cop beat an olympic-grade athelete's time, hmmm?)


Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!!                 The Mad Fax Spammer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nytmist@l.......
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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:20:50 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Need help from NYC area!

On Mar 28, 1996 21:30:40, 'June Williams <cousin@w.......>' wrote:

>PS Your friend lives about 15 minutes away from the Web Godess
>herself...but I don't think she recieves visitors :)

The WebGoddess lives at the Mighty Crossroads, in the midst of a Fold in
Space/Time; and therefore cannot ever be found at exactly the same location
twice.  (Ask anyone who's ever tried finding my house.  Street maps
notwithstanding.)

However, if one has sufficient FAITH... sometimes the WebGoddess may be
invoked, i.e. induced to appear.  (Ask anyone who's thrown a listparty in
the last seven months.  State lines/distances notwithstanding.)

It should be noted, in any case, that although the WebGoddess is to some
degree ephemeral, she is forced by circumstance to be ephemeral via public
transportation.  Therefore Howard Beach is not 15, but a minimum of 165
minutes from my neck of the woods.

Which is not necessarily a problem.  I am, after all, the WebGoddess.  I
Transcend The Subways.

<eg>

--
Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner/Mommy/Nag, FORKNI-L etc.
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done.  I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:44:04 -0600
From:    D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Popcorn scene

Gee, I'm posting a lot today! <g>

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......> wrote:
>The tricky part is how he barely managed to cope with having
>to take the normal oath - putting his hand on the bible. Am I right
>in remembering smoke?

No, but he's definitely uncomfortable holding his hand there.  In fact, he
literally snatches it away, as soon as he's done.  It isn't the Bible itself,
though, IMO.  When he turns his hand over, afterward, we see that the
gold-embossed cross on the cover has burned itself into his palm.

It's very realistic-- all serum-y and raw-looking. :P  But the shot only lasts a
couple of seconds, so you have to look *really* close.

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                          gryphon@e.......  #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:02:13 -0500
From:    Jean Graham <JeanB7@a.......>
Subject: How I got hooked

Thanks to the 19 list members who've answered my initial-post questions so
far.  This is a busy little group -- my mailbox and my online meter are both
overflowing.

It's been suggested (hi, Margie -- and certainly you can quote me to
Newsweek!) that I post my own answers to the questions on the list, so...

What first attracted me to FK?  "Fever."  Yeah, really.  It was not the first
ep. I saw, but was the first one I paid close attention to.  So don't doubt
it -- 3rd season episodes _can_ hook new viewers.  Why did "Fever" hook me?
 Because I'm a pushover for brooding anti-hero types; because this ep. posed
a dire threat to the protagonist in a new and unusual way, was tightly
written and used a poignant contemporary analogy (the AIDS crisis), all with
a bitter-sweet tweak of irony at the end. ("So, the killer is the cure.
 Isn't that fascinating?  His tainted blood will be our salvation.")

What kept me watching?  Character angst, conflict, good writing, accurate
(well, OK, mostly) historical flashbacks, classical & literary references
(find THAT in a U.S. produced series!), some genuinely beautiful
metaphors-to-the-human-condition (we all have a darker side, etc.), and
finally the fact that amidst all of that, this show still isn't afraid to
have a little fun with the concept, too.

Other vampire lore I enjoy: Bram Stoker, Richard Matheson, P.N. Elrod -- and
the 60s TV series that hooked me on vampires to begin with: DARK SHADOWS.
 Those of you who've never seen DS might find the premise, er, interesting.
 It was about a vampire who wanted desperately to become human again, found a
friend and ally in a woman doctor who tried to cure him and developed a
romantic interest in him (tho he preferred to remain "just friends"), and
about the "evil one" who first cursed him -- in this case a beautiful witch
named Angelique -- who was doing her damnedest (literally) to make sure he
remained a vampire.  Sounds vaguely familiar, huh?  If you have SciFi
Channel, DS runs daily @ 8-9 a.m. PST/11-Noon EST.

Thanks again for all the welcomes, answers, pointers to tape and zine
sources, etc.  'Tis much appreciated!

  --Jean Graham    JeanB7@a.......
    Youth is a gift of nature.  Age is a work of art.

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:10:53 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Uncle's Sword Pin and sundry matters

Cousin Melissa writes:

>I taped the Oscars last night and as I was skimming through it this
>morning noticed something silver, shiny, and vaguely familiar stuck
>through Mel Gibson's lapel.

LOL!
I just had this image:  Felicia picks up pen.  Jots the following:  "Dear Mr.
Gibson,  You don't know me, but would you mind telling me where you got that
sword pin, and where I can get--- oh, about a hundred for some of my closest
friends, exactly like it?"

And double LOL:  *Who* recently made the comment about LaCroix looking like
he was seducing microphones?  I laughed all through a repeat viewing of my
second season tapes every time Nigel leaned closer to that microphone <EG>.
 And the other excellent point about wherever LC sees blood, he "claims" it
for himself--- I never thought of it in that fashion before.  Is that
intentional on the part of the writers, do you think;  or is it just because
it seems like such a "cool" thing for a vampire master to do <G>?

Re:  FANDATA:

Tammy, they mistook you for Jon Feltheimer?!?  HOW?!?  You *gotta* tell us
this!

Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:11:42 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: Jon Cassar to Visit the Knight Watch Chat

This is a clip from my mailer, Knight Watch News, the newsletter of the
America Online Forever Knight Chat (sanctioned by the TV Viewers Forum):

============================
tHiS cOmInG mOnDaY:
***DIRECTOR JON CASSAR VISITS THE KNIGHT WATCH***
Join me in welcoming Jon Cassar to our Forever Knight Chat this coming
Monday, April 1 (no fooling!) at 11 pm ET in the Remote Control Chat Room!
 (keyword: TV GOSSIP, double click on The Remote Control)

Jon Cassar, who has been with the show since he was a camera operator for the
very first episode, "Dark Knight", has directed the following episodes:

Yr 1 - Dying for Fame (The first show in his directing career)
Yr 2 - Faithful Followers
        - Can't Run Can't Hide
        - Curiouser & Curiouser
Yr 3  - Outside the Lines
        - Dead of Night
        - Ashes to Ashes (will be shown second last )

Jon was also on the set during the very last day of shooting in February so
he's been there from start to finish (at least this season, Marcia says
optimistically!)   The above listing of Jon's episodes is from Jon, so you
can trust that they're accurate!

Because there will be a lot of people in the room, I am asking all chatters
to please IM me with questions that you have for Jon, which I will screen
(for duplicates, etc.) and then type them to the screen for Jon to answer.
 This way he will not be bombarded!  Thanks for your cooperation in advance!

If you like (I would like!) please send questions to me at ScFiMarci before
the chat!  If you choose to do this, please put "CASSAR ?" in the subject
header so I won't think your note is just another post to one of the mailing
lists I belong to.  I'll take questions up through Sunday night; after that,
I may not have time to include them in my macros.


Also, please DO NOT ASK FOR SPOILER INFORMATION.  I think we're all aware
that those connected to the show have been asked to keep quiet about what may
or may not happen in the last episode, and we should not compromise Jon by
asking about it.  If he volunteers information about his "Ashes to Ashes"
episode, fine.

Jon will also be rejoining us on April 22 to talk specifically about the
episode "Dead of Night" which is scheduled to rerun in syndication the
weekend before.  You might want to save specific questions about that episode
for that night.

He's really looking forward to joining us, by the way!

==================================

Also, Fred Mollin and I are in the process of finalizing a date for his
return to the chat - hopefully April 8 or 15.  Stay tuned!

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci / TVV Marci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved
AOL Forever Knight Chat Host

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:11:37 -0500
From:    colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: Re: Subject: Couples Factions: A New One!

Someone Wrote this...
>>The LaCroissants are, naturally, those who appreciate the LaCroix-Schanke
>>relationship.

Then someone's reply...
>Now, let me propose another sub-faction - for those of us who appreciated
>the Schanke/Janette relationship!  I'm having trouble thinking of a name -



Hey Guys,
        Don't ya think you're going overboard with all these fractions? I
mean, fractions for nick, Lacroix, And everyone else is fine, but don't you
think you're streaching it? I mean Schanke and Janette? What about a
Stonetree/Janette/Vachon love triangle?...
Cp-

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:02:42 -0500
From:    Lillian Feden <feden@m.......>
Subject: Weekend with Ger

I'm in, I'm in!

::doing the happy dance::

Now if I can use my free ticket to get to LA I'll be in absolute heaven!

:D

Lillian
feden@m.......         http://www.mcs.com/~feden
Forever Knightie/Immortal Beloved/DoCoS
"Imagination was given to man to compensate for what he is not;
 a sense of humor to console him for what he is."  Francis Bacon

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:18:45 -0600
From:    "Amy R. Langenhorst" <alangenh@n.......>
Subject: Weirdstuff/other junk

Hi everybody... I've been sort of lurking on this list for a few months...
but... something really and incredibly strange just happened...  I
stress... *really* weird... I still haven't decided if it was a prank or
not... help?  I know people were talking/asking about the workings of
Nielsen a while back...

I just got a phone call (from someone who knew my name) who asked me what I
was doing tonight as if he was a friend... I couldn't place him, but
couldn't tell for sure, so I just casually answered... I answered German
homework ('cause that's what I was doing  ;)  ) and he proceeded to ask me
why I was not watching Friends, and then go on for a while about
commercials, and the cost of advertising on Friends because it was so
popular... and to ask if I planned to watch Friends in the future... I
said, no, probably not.  He asked me some questions about German (he did
not recognize course numbers, so he wasn't from my college) and then asked
me what I did watch.  As you might guess, I said the only show I really
watch is Forever Knight.  He asked me when that was on, and I told him.
Then I asked him who the heck he was and why he was calling me (perhaps
slightly more pleasant than that, but... )  He said, he was with the
Nielsen ratings, and was doing a survey, etc... it sounded more like he may
have been looking for times I watched, not programs... but... ?

Does anyone have any theories on this?  Like, does anyone know if this is
something that Nielsen people actually do?  How can I find out if it was
legit?  I didn't get a name or phone # or anything... <sigh> ... just
weirdstuff.  Wonder if it helped our cause any... I hope so... ?

Also, on a much lighter note... I have a YKYB I've been meaning to post... :)

YKYBWTMFKW... You are in computer programming class in the lab, and decide
you should see if you are over your disk quota, and the computer tells you
you are using 1228 Kb.  :)  You give a whoop of surprise and joy, and
everyone in the computer lab turns to look at you.  You decide then and
there that you won't do any more C++ programs, as it would alter your disk
usage.  ;)

And finally, Re: the popcorn scene...
I know this is old news, but ARGH!  I can't believe I missed that!  I saw
about 90% of both seasons 1 and 2... but must not've seen that one!  :P :P
:P

Hmmmm... could one of the more technically inclined web people maybe make
that scene (or part of it) into an AVI (or whatever the abbreviation for
"computer video" is)...? <blinking eyes innocently, cocking head, and
generally giving a Tracy/puppydog look>  Pretty please...?  :)

Any feedback on any of the above would be much more than welcome,
See ya,
arl

*  alangenh@n.......          *\-\*  "It's worse than that,    *\-\*
\*  "Auf Wiederschreiben..."   *\-\*   it's physics, Jim...     *\-\
-\*  Eternally Undecided        *\-\*   physics...."             *\-
\-\*  Resume --> MSA, EII, ISP   *\-\*      --"Star Trekkin'..."  *\
*\-\*  ifte:)  <life in general>  *\-\*(who'da thought, in my sig?)*

st. louis... home sweet...
   home of los angeles'  R A M S
     home of oakland's  T O N Y   L A   R U S S A
           --AND--
         home of los angeles kings'  W A Y N E   G R E T Z K Y

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:17:52 -0500
From:    The Phoenix <jap8@c.......>
Subject: ADMIN:  ENOUGH!

If you think Zeus in rage is a frightening thing to behold, you haven't
seen me in a bad list-mood, and I'm in the worst I've ever been in for
the past 3 years.

It's come to my attention from /numerous/ sources that certain
listmembers cannot be bothered to remember that the lists are built on
RESPECT of listmembers' beliefs.  People have been swearing, calling
each other names, and basically behaving like children.

This WILL stop.  Not: 'this has to stop.'  It *WILL* stop.  Enough is
enough.  In the past, I've let you lot basically do what you like, so
long as you could be civil to one another, firmly believing everyone on
the lists to be mature enough participate in one of the few civil
discussion groups on the entire internet.

Apparently, I was wrong.  It's rather distressing to me, because I'm one
of the younger members of the list, yet my elders act worse than I do.
Have the lists outlived their usefulness?  Are they too big and unwieldy
now?  You tell me.  I certainly don't know anymore.

Some folks seem to think that Jamie's part of the problem.  So far, I
haven't seen much evidence of her screwing up, but if she does, she
freely admits it.  I picked her cos I thought she'd do a good job, and
from my perspective, she /is/ doing a good job.  If I was doing
everything she does for the lists, I'd certainly be a lot bitchier about
admonishing listmembers than she has been, so you should be lucky she's
handling a lot of stuff, rather than me doing it personally.  I think
she deserves a privately-emailed round of applause.  She busts her ass
for the FK fandom and for these lists, and doesn't deserve the crapola
some people are handing to her.

Let me be clear about this.  Generally, I will almost always back up
Jamie when she says something about list policy or admonishing an errant
listmember about something.  I didn't pick her so I could be spending
all my time undercutting her.  I picked her cos we have similar views on
listowning, so I could trust her to do her job in a way that I'd do the
job, had I time to do it myself.

That doesn't mean I won't listen to complaints, if they're legitimate
worries about allegations about listowner abuse.  However, I won't
listen to petty complaints cos Jamie was just doing her job.  I hope
we're all clear on that now.

Now, as has /always/ been list policy, if you can't say something nice,
don't say anything at all!  Delete that flame before you even hit the
send command.  I don't care if you're flaming me, Jamie, Sony, Tri-Star,
JP, or anyone else.  *shouting* FLAMES ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!!! *not
shouting*.

Capische?

Red,
The Queen of the Lists.

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:27:26 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: vamps for real or not

> You ARE being strait with us, aren't you? You aren't going to turn around
>and giggle behind our backs should we belive you, right? Don't get me wrong,
>but I've read the wars with my mother, and I know the evil ways of
>cousins(Probebly why part of me likes them so much.) :)

Hey!

I'm being serious, it has nothing to do with being a Cousin.  I was a vamp
LOOOONG before I was a Cousin.  Still, I don't talk about it all that much;
it only came up because everyone was talking about whether vampyres exist or
not.  About Venus:  Venus is a boiling greenhouse with armosphere so thick
it warps and a temp hot enough to melt lead.  I don't believe the "I'm from
Venus" stories either.

if I can ever get it on tape, I'll send you a copy.  Might be a while.  To
be honest, until I saw it myself, I was skeptical too, even though I'd known
my teeth were acting funny for over a year.

TTYL!  Tell your mom I said hi!

Susan

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:35:12 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Multiple replies & Question

TJ asked:

>BTW -- What IS ObFK?!?

Obligatory FK, I think.  It comes up whenever something necessary to some
degree is mentioned.  If I'm wrong, I hope someone corrects me soon.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:43:50 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: vamps for real or not

>So my question to the original poster is this:  Are you talking about something
> similar to what I just I just described?  If not, then um, well, I, uh, oh, how
> can I put this gently without getting flammed (Here goes anyway)....I think
> there is a logical explanation for your condition other than vampirism.
> Please believe me, this is not a flame at all.  I'm just more of a realist,
> that's all.

Sorry.  Overquoted again.

No, I'm not talking about that.  My eyes are already green; when I get too
excited they can occasionally go cat-green.  I, too have a tendency to suck
on cuts, but any exposure to/sight of blood gets me worked up in
unexplainable ways.  My canines actually extend up to about 1/3 inch, give
or take 2 millimeters, but it's not an everyday thing.  In addition, I have
unexplainable aversion to sun or bright lights; I burn within 5 minutes,
even on an overcast day despite the fact I'm not all that pale, and I have
to wear sunglasses after dark sometimes because the light hurts my eyes.
It's not strictly a headlight thing, either.  I always wear them outside and
sometimes inside during the day because it hurts too much otherwise.

According to my doctors, my teeth and gums are relatively odd, if a little
odd; I shouldn't have the aversion to light for any currently explained
reasons (I've been all the way to the Mayo Clinic for this and other stuff);
and I should be in much worse shape than I am due to some massive past
infections and a weak immune system.  Too much can't be, or hasn't been,
explained.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:53:51 -0500
From:    Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD

Yes, please buy the CD!
I'm enormously proud of it and I might even see royalties after the record
label recoups their costs!
Also, the more sales we get, the more likely a Volume 2 could materialize!
I will be receiving my first copies tommorow and I'm truly thrilled.
The most important part of this release is the chance for the fans to have
the music that has been my pride and joy since i started the series in 1991!

thanks to everyone.
There would be no CD without you.


Fred

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:57:17 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: To the Listlord-- everyone else can ignore.

I give the okay for all my stories to date to be archived.  I just learned
the protocol for it a couple of days ago, and am sorry for any inconvenience.

3-28-96

Susan Schaefer

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:11:23 -0500
From:    Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Schanke&Janette/ditto what Carrie said!

Christine Hawkins asked:
>for those of us who appreciated the Schanke/Janette
>relationship!  I'm having trouble thinking of a name -
>any suggestions?

How about the Sinatras? They did a beautiful "duet" in "A
More Permanent Hell."

Not to be a "metoo," but Carrie, I loved your post, and just
have to say...me too!  The lists (and yes, that's what I call
'em all...just "the lists"--you mean there are *other*
mailing lists?!) have sounded awfully hostile for a while
now, which is sad, because what struck me about the place when I first signed
on (and no, I don't think I knew all the
risks when I signed on <g>) was what an overwhelmingly friendly, intelligent
lot you all were. And since I was new
not only to the lists but to the 'net and computers in general
in addition to being new to FK, I couldn't believe I'd struck
upon such a special place, where so many people had gotten
to know each other so well--in cyberspace *and* in real
life--and could express themselves so well and so
creatively.

Let's not lose that to flaming among faction members (factions are supposed
to *fun*); word-by-word blows to
each others' posts, sensibilities, and hearts; or behavior
that wasn't even appropriate on the playground
when we were in kindergarten.

'Kay? (Note: Purely coincidental Koplovitz reference)

Now let's all gather 'round for juice time (yes, little
Jamie, you may have cranberry...) and a story.

Lisa W. * MVRJasper@a....... * newbie-in-spirit

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:30:15 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Multiple replies & Question

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix writes:
>Obligatory FK, I think.  It comes up whenever something necessary to some
>degree is mentioned.  If I'm wrong, I hope someone corrects me soon.

You got the definition of ObFK right.  It's my understanding, though,
that it's used primarily at the end of pretty much "off topic" posts
to fulfill the list rule that posts be in some way related to FK. :)

ObFK:  Did I really read that the last new episode won't air until
June?

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:30:33 -0500
From:    "M. Vrzoc" <vrzoc@s.......>
Subject: Looking for Jennifer Sangiovanni

Sorry for Non-FK post but I'm trying to contact this Nick+Nat Packer after
my e-mail came back User Unknown.

By the way, who's sent in their money for the California Gerthering? Are
you one of the chosen few (100)?

M. Vrzoc (vrzoc@u.......)           | Just a little off the top!
                                    | -- A. Boleyn

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:38:00 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Look for lone Nanette & YKYB

Wicked Cousin Tippi mourned:

>You have a dream that Greg Kramer has changed his name to "G. M.
>McScreed and is now a grafitti artist who works out the back of his
>honda hatchback.  Why can't I just have normal dreams like other
>people??  Why can't I dream about Uncle in a thong instead of in clown
>pants or hip waders??  I'm not just warped, I'm WARP FACTOR 9, SCOTTY!

One line over.  Sigh.

Don't worry, dear, my dreams are just as strange.  This morning it involved
trying to escape from an Oklahoma City hotel in which an FK con had been
scheduled, but cancelled just after I arrived.  I wasn't allowed to leave,
but finally (and barefoot.  And wearing my fake biker slut nightshirt) I ran
for it.  Uncle, driving what appeared from the outside to be a Honda
hatchback but on the inside was a four-seater sedan, rescued me.  Nick was
in the front passenger seat and I was sitting next to Screed.  Uncle ended
up gettin me a whole bunch of clothes and some shoes (I don't remember how,
just that he did) and dropped me off someplace.  I (sadly) woke up just as I
was trying to, ahem, THANK him.  He was fully dressed.  The hotel was also
full of drag queens and Love Boat crew.  You're not the only warped one...

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:42:38 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Subject: Couples Factions: A New One!

Colin commented,

>        Don't ya think you're going overboard with all these fractions? I
>mean, fractions for nick, Lacroix, And everyone else is fine, but don't you
>think you're streaching it? I mean Schanke and Janette? What about a
>Stonetree/Janette/Vachon love triangle?...

What do you want to call it?  Charlie's Angels?

<gd&r>

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Charter member of the as-yet unnamed LaCroix/Nick Fractured Fraction.
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:47:00 -0700
From:    BECKY BURNS <becky.burns@w.......>
Subject: Re: AIRWOLF... ANOTHER FAMILIAR FACE

On 27 Mar 96 08:09pm, APACHE said the following:


 A>         Did anyone tape (or even see) the episode that has Ger and Ben
 A> Bass in the same scene?  It has someone else saying a line like "just
 A> pretend you're looking for clean socks" or something like that.

            Great!  Now eventhough I'm not a huge BB fan (ducking from flying
stuffed cows that play Old MacDonald had a Farm...Mooooooo!)  I am now going
to have to go through every ep that I recorded to see if I can find him.


 A>    According to the interview he gave in the BBFC newsletter, it was Ben Bass'
 A> first onscreen anything; he's an extra in the background somewhere, a soldier
 A> who walks up a hill.  He was something like 18 at the time, so I wouldn't
 A> be expecting sheer animal magnetism to jump off the screen or anything.

       Ahem, animal magnetism?  <shudder>  Uncle has way more animal
magnetism in his cute little hairdo than BB does in those long locks of his!


Cousin Becky
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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:56:01 -0600
From:    "Amy R. Langenhorst" <alangenh@n.......>
Subject: sorry...

Ooops... sorry, sorry, sorry... forgot to delete the more-than-5-line sig... :P

See ya,
arl

alangenh@n.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:21:26 PST
From:    Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Subject: Thoughts About Screed and the New Vamps

Okay I've been thinking (caution very dangerous).  This season we saw Vachon's
 origin and Urs's.  Why didn't we get to see Screed's origin.?  I know Vachon,
 Screed, and Urs are just secondary characters, but why show the origins of just
 two of them?  IMO, I thougt it was pretty lame to kill off Screed before
 showing his origin.  Anybody else agree?

I hope it's okay to discuss this, and this isn't spoiler protected.  If it is,
 then my apologies.

Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Just a non-factional (still) FK fan

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:01:03 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Oatmeal

> Even Ger teased him on it in the blooper reel (is that The Thing We Should
> Not Have?), where LC is storming towards the camera and is stopped by Ger
> holding out a box of the stuff and shouting the tag line.  They both broke
> up laughing.

As it is The Thing We Should Not Have, perhaps I should not admit to
being able to ask this question <g>, but when I saw it, the person
fending off LC with a box of cereal did NOT register as Ger...?

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
    Devoted Knightie, Light Cousin, Repentant Ex-Nevermore
                Pronunciation-Survey Taker

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:07:35 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Yes, I messed up...again

> (i think I'll stick to lurking for awhile...)

Don't feel that THAT is necessary! :)

    ***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
(who thinks that lurking is probably something you have to do in Purgatory)

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 02:17:50 EST
From:    Kenneth Dare <102226.1213@c.......>
Subject: Re: Weekend With Ger!!!

>I'm in, I'm in!
Me Too,Me Too!

I can't wate to meet you.

-----------------
Brandy

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:21:44 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Multiple replies & Question

(Forgive me if this has been addressed; I'm still recovering from
yesterday's file disaster, and there have been a LOT of posts since then.)

> I think we settled on the fact that vampires have no set blood type.
> Kind of a mix, i would think.  It's not like Schanke's is the only blood
> he's had, I suppose.
        I thought we resolved that the "no blood" thing in "STF" was an
aberration, and that Schanke's blood-type was the universal donor?

> BTW -- What IS "ObFK?"
I need to know this, too. Interpreting from context only goes so far. :)

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
"Opinion in good men is but knowledge in the making." -- Milton
    Devoted Knightie, Light Cousin, Repentant Ex-Nevermore
Pronunciation-Survey Taker: Would you believe "for Nigel" has two votes? :)

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 02:30:25 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: The popcorn scene and fangs

Stephanie wrote:
>I finally decided Nick showed his fangs and growled at Nat to make a
>point about being the "someone" who broke the innocent musician out
>of jail.

Well, before I heard it was an ad lib, I just thought Nick was making
his own "King Kong" type of joke, seeing as how Nat likes "monsters"
so much.  I just thought Nick was feeling more lighthearted and
friendly (he *does* express a sense of humor *sometimes*).

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:31:17 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Re: First Season Questions and Thoughts

(Again, please forgive me if this has been addressed...)

> Janette brought her over - the Baroness walks out, looking a little
> weird, Janette is immediately behind her, and her line is something like
> "Sometimes it takes a woman to understand what another woman needs."

But what about her statement in "I Will Repay" that she has never brought
anyone across?  Was she lying to Nick?  Why?  There're still a lot of eps
I haven't seen, but *lying* seems uncharacteristic for Janette.  She
never seems to need to hide things, at least from other vampires.

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
"Opinion in good men is but knowledge in the making." -- Milton
    Devoted Knightie, Light Cousin, Repentant Ex-Nevermore

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:45:31 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Uncle's Sword Pin and sundry matters

>  And the other excellent point about wherever LC sees blood, he "claims" it
> for himself... <snip> or is it just because
> it seems like such a "cool" thing for a vampire master to do <G>?

I do see the <g>, but just wanted to say that, for me at least, with the
single exception of Fleur's finger, this behavior in LC has always made
me think of him as an addict... It is the weakness behind the strength.
But then, I've got these Light Cousinly tendencies to deal with... :)

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... *****
"Opinion in good men is but knowledge in the making." -- Milton
    Devoted Knightie, Light Cousin, Repentant Ex-Nevermore

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:10:36 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Pronunciation?

As far as I know (and the only way I've ever heard it)...

FORKNI-L is pronounced "for-nye ell"

(That's "nye" with an N and a long I sound, to rhyme with sigh and cry and
why)

FKFIC-L is referred to as "eff-kay fick"

and FKSPOILR is simply "eff-kay spoiler".

List veterans:   'Tis correct, yes?

--
Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner/Mommy/Nag, FORKNI-L etc.
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done.  I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.

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Date:    Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:09:50 -0800
From:    Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: GREAT NK+LC faction name! :)

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Wicked One wrote:

> So, how about THIS for a faction name:  Maan.  It has a double meaning.
> It sounds like "man" and it stands for "much ado about nothing"!

Ahem.  Now, repeat after me:  you do know what Much Ado About NOTHING
meant in Elizabethan English now, don't you?

Cynthia, who knows more about Elizabethan English than is good for one's
soul
Cynthia Hoffman
choff@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 28 Mar 1996 00:13:48 -0800
From:    Tara Housman <amprsand@s.......>
Subject: Nigel/SyndiconWest

Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......> asked:
>...I was wondering if anyone is going to attend the Con? If so, I
>would really consider going, I attended last years as part of the
>Scottish entertainment but still had a good time!
>...so it would be nice to meet some friendly Forkni-L faces at the other end.

  I'm considering attending, if I can find out when the Nigel Bennett
events are scheduled. The weekend ticket price is a bit steep, but I'd
spring for a one-day ticket, it I can get by with it.

  Here are a couple of things that've been in my thoughts about Syndi-Con:

  Is there anyone out there who knows s/he will be attending, and will be
staying at the Cathedral Hill Hotel? I had so much fun when Marian Gibbons
sponsored a night of rabid Forever Knight watching at Baycon.

 Is there anyone willing to host/co-host such a get-together? If we can use
your hotel room for the event, I'll be happy to kick down part of the hotel
room cost. I'll bring a VCR and most of this season's episodes. Perhaps
others will bring previous seasons?

  Also, I live in San Francisco (Inner Sunset District), so if someone
needs a place to crash, you're welcome to conk out on my fold-up futon in
my spare bedroom. Mind you, I'm currently using that room mainly for
storage, so "spare" is pretty accurate. Still, the rest of the house is
well appointed, and the price is right. I have room for one person there,
unless you don't mind the floor (B.Y.O.Sleeping bag).

  If a Forever Knight party is to ambitious on such short notice, how about
a lunch or dinner get-together?

  Also, if anyone needs directions or advice about restaurants, sights and
such in San Francisco, please email me. I drive a taxicab here, so I'm
pretty familiar with the geography and history of San Francisco.

                                    -&&&

Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me and/or visit:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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