There are 39 messages totalling 1010 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. Hi folks!! 2. Sundry Matters -- Th' Nanette Special 3. I'm back! And questions. (2) 4. Sweet Revenge/EC Faq/and Hair 5. YKYB... 6. Phone call from Tom Olson 7. Oh, help. (3) 8. FK Mini Con 9. Next Year's Geminis (Fever) 10. "Forebodings" 11. FK CD Update / YKTPOTLHBB 12. Hand alert! 13. You gotta see this.... 14. Nat's crankiness 15. Vampire poll 16. Tracy and Vampires 17. OTL Notebook 18. Couples Factions: A New One! 19. Couples factions 20. New Vampires on the Block! 21. The humiliation of it, the shame... 22. Newsweek 23. Compuserve Access 24. Nat's frustration 25. New FK Eps...when? 26. Off topic quickie 27. POTK *is* cancelled 28. Tour Warning 29. Nick&Nat; Nat&LC 30. Amending the distribution of EVIL amongst the factions... 31. lots of things, really 32. Hello? 33. A few more questions 34. Rumors of War/Airwolf ? 35. I'm mad as heck 36. Nick and Janette/Nat & LC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:08:23 -0500 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Hi folks!! Hi! Just in case anyone was looking for me, I have a new address. It happened rather abruptly but at least I have a better server now. Ptooey compuserve!! Anyway, my new email is dottir@w........ I think this will be it for me. However, I have missed two days of mail!! What's happening since Sunday!!?? Also - Cal - if you're reading - I lost your email address in the move over. Please email privately!! Boy, did I miss you guys!! Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:26:42 -0500 From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......> Subject: Sundry Matters -- Th' Nanette Special Gang: I'll not waste bandwidth with niceties. Just business. 1. Count me in on the Kindred/FK crossover. I've got some *nice* ideas of how Uncle can make lunch out of some of the Kindred vamps. I'd like some information from some hardcore White Wolf gamers on the whole concept of the Masquerade, the Clans, and the other Paths. Thanks and 'nuff said on that. 2. IMHO, the Raven/ettes aren't evil, as has been opined. They just do what they want -- in a word (that has already been used) amoral. There is a huge difference between evil and amoral. 3. UK's getting stuff in their eps that neither US or Canada did?! Not fair! *Waaaah!* :( 4. The Nick/LC F(r)action should be the Pinky and the Brainiacs, or some variant thereof. I like the show, but the comparison is just too much. It hits home -- Nick is somewhat like Pinky: mentally maladjusted (at least, he is in the eyes of other vamps). And LC, like Brain, is a megalomaniac, although to a lesser degree. 5. If anyone is interested in having their stories archived in a short story collection that I am working on, please e-mail me privately. I will discuss it more in detail with you. 6. Someone PLEASE get back to me on this Hand thing. I'm dying to know what the heck is going on with this. 7. Would anyone be interested in the Nanette FAQ? I've been toying around with one, and who knows? You too might be a Nanette, and not know it. <g> 8 (and lastly). I say it here and in public, in front of all of you. Jamie *is* the Web Goddess. I have seen her work, and it is truly an awesome sight to behold. Prepare yourselves to bow down to her majesty <g>. I've al- ready sacrificed virtual cigarettes and high-caffeine-content coffee to her. Pat -- Lone Nanette, B-Negative FoD, Web Page Designer-In-Training and Lookin' for Other Nanettes (it's gettin' lonely) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:53:22 -0500 From: Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......> Subject: Re: I'm back! And questions. In a message dated 96-03-26 13:54:28 EST, you write: >> 3) In "OtL," what does the card say? What is the picture on the >> front? And, as Katja asked, what did Nick see on Nat's desk? My copy of >> the ep is many fuzzy generations down... > > The card reads: Dear Natalie, Happy Birthday With Affection, Nick Carrie :)= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:36:48 CST From: Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......> Subject: Sweet Revenge/EC Faq/and Hair Hey all, Just a quick note to let everyone know about my first zine publishing venture. It's called SWEET REVENGE and will feature, NK, LC and other FK people fighting to save their favorite TV show, Eternal Champion! If anyone wants to write a story for this zine, mail me privately and I'll send you the EC faq (yes, I *did* write a faq for a show that doesn't even exist, and your point would be?). Or, if you just want the faq to see why this might be Nick's favorite TV show. ;) If anyone wants to buy a copy, email me privately and I'll send more info. Proceeds go to 2 good causes: 1. A Last Knight party in Dallas. 2. The Pediatric AIDS Foundation. Why buy a copy? Because there will be things in here you won't see on FKFIC. ;) Like Rosebud's private email as he discusses EC. Or the conclusion to NK's and LC's war with the TV execs in my final EC story. It won't be posted to FKfic for several months. Muahaha! ObFK: When did Uncle's hair go from screaming punk platinum to the darker shade we see today? Was it quick and sudden, and without explanation? (IE, "I am far too old and powerful to have this hair do!") Or did it happen in five easy minutes a day with natural looking results? Wicked Cousin Tippi, member of The Thong Throng reply to: TippiNB@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:56:02 -0500 From: Loose Cannon <LoosCanN@a.......> Subject: YKYB... Sigh. YKYB letting your kids watch too much FK, when the 7 year old comes in and says, "Okay, we're pretending we're vampires and I'm a good guy vampire like Nick. And you made me, so you're like LaCroix. Except not so bossy." Leslie C. GrantSmith (LoosCanN@a.......) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:48:03 -0700 From: Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......> Subject: Phone call from Tom Olson VERY INTERESTING ! When I got home from work today, there was a very nice message on my answering machine from Tom Olson, the National Sales Manager of the Sci=Fi Channel (he introduced himself by that title). He was calling in response to a Save Forever Knight snail-mail letter that I sent him last week. Here is what he said: -He explained that the Sci=Fi Channel has taken over F.K. from the USA Channel (which we already know - that's why we are writing the letters!) -He said that there would be "more original episodes", and that they would air on Monday nights at 9:00 p.m., eastern time. -He said he hoped my local cable company would be carrying the Sci=Fi channel, so that I could continue watching F.K. (Unfortunately, my cable co. does not carry Sci=Fi, but I intend to keep bugging them, as are several of my friends.) -He thanked me for writing, said he hoped I would continue to be a fan, and said that if I had other questions or comments, to call him at his New York number: 000-000-0000. -I haven't seen any other postings recently where someone has gotten a phone call from one of the Big-Wigs, so I was mighty surprised by this! -I'm not sure that he intended for the New York number to be "published" on a mailing list, but I have done so anyway. I just ask that calls made to the above number not be abused or used to communicate in an inconsiderate way. I thank you very much, in advance, for your observance of my request! -I will continue to send snail-mail to all of the "folks in charge", especially since we do still have those last 3 or 4 episodes left to go. Who knows? Let's not give up just yet! See ya! Lisa M. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:53:54 -0500 From: "Diane Iacono @a........" <DIacono@a.......> Subject: Re: Oh, help. Hi Bonnie--Here's my .02 cents worth! Diane Iacono @a........ Janette--SEXY Nick--ANGST FILLED WHINER (OK--IT'S 3 WORDS--SO STAKE ME!!) Natalie-NURTURING Tracy-IMMATURE (BUT I THINK SHE'S GETTING BETTER!) Vachon-SEDUCTIVE Urs-MELANCHOLY LaCroix-OMNIPOTENT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:53:43 -0600 From: We Two <gebbie@e.......> Subject: FK Mini Con Yet again, I have lost some information I needed. Specifically, the FK mini con that will be happening the weekend of Toronto Trek. I'll be in TO that weekend, but not to attend TO Trek.So could some kind soul give the info, like price , etc., of the mini con? Will give you lots of virtual chocolate and Ribena in exchange. -Deb Martin gebbie@e....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:58:59 -0800 From: Amy R. <r......@w.......> Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis (Fever) Kristin M. Bachman wrote: > I don't know. I like the one a little later. "One of the damned. One > of YOUR damned!" Those words just stick. Maybe because they apply so well. A Light Cousin Speaks: I like them all. :) I don't think LC has a wasted line anywhere in this script. And while, of course, NB is perfectly capable of turning a throw-away line into an Oscar nomination, given the chance, my admiration for "Fever" is still kneeling at the virtual alter of Gillian Horvath. :) I suppose everyone on fkspoilr already knows this, but as "Fever" just came out of protection, and as I did bother to look them up, I thought I'd share my pet cross-references to Uncle's monologue in that ep: John Donne's "Holy Sonnet 10" Dylan Thomas's "And Death Shall Have No Dominion" Romans 6:9 Go. Read. Appreciate. Give awards... :) ***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... ***** "How like a winter hath my absence been/From thee"--W.S. Sonnet 97 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:47:19 EST From: MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......> Subject: "Forebodings" I just received my copy of Ger's latest audio book, "Forebodings". I haven't listened to all of it yet, but so far, IMO, this is even better than his first book. So many different voices; such dulcet tones. In the dark, in bed, with his voice whispering through my earphones - you guys can have Ger's butt, I just want his voice.... Marg ZEZQ01A@p....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:01:34 EST From: MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......> Subject: FK CD Update / YKTPOTLHBB You Know the People on the List Have Been Busy: I finally ordered the CD & tape today (Tues, Mar 26--no matter what Prodigy put in the header). I know! I know! Hand is going to get me for waiting so long. . . . Anyway, I told the guy that I wanted to order a CD but didn't know the item # and he said, "Forever Knight, right?" "How'd you know?" I asked. "We get at least 20 calls a day for that," he said. Wow! I'm impressed with all of you. Fred Mollin should be very happy--his CD is going to sell quite well. BTW, the operator said they should be going out by the end of the week via regular mail. (Slow, slow, slow. But at least we'll finally be able to get our hands on it.) Regards, Idalia Kakesako <NPYF15B@p.......> --attempting to deny her cousinly, natpackish, mercenarian [!!CHOCOLATE!!] leanings-- . . . Um, should I call myself a "Jamie" for now? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:38:58 -0600 From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......> Subject: Re: Hand alert! Barbara exclaimed: >Hand can not die. Hand is always there for you--why? Like the >Nightcrawler Himself, because Hand loves you. Hmmm... does anyone else notice an odd little connection here? Nightcrawler, Hand. Hand crawls, and I suspect is more active at night. They both love us, and, as the movie "Freaked" proved, hands CAN talk. Could it? I wouldn't be surprised... I think it's time for my medication.;) Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Thong Throng phoenix@i....... **MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire** *I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:17:35 CST From: Bruce Rawitch <brucer@i.......> Subject: You gotta see this.... All you Perry the vampire dog fans with web access, you gotta see the following.... Go to the CNN homepage (http://cnn.com/) and select the search-put in the word "chupacabra"- then let me know what you think.....Perry has gone south.... Mooohahahahaha!!!!! (ps-it's in the middle of the page, below the article on the 2 legged chihuahua and the article about repealing Rat's rights in New Jersey...must have been sponsored by Screed) Back to lurking...... Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:09:26 -0500 From: Judith Freudenthal <JudithF955@a.......> Subject: Nat's crankiness I think part of it is the frustration that she loves him and they can't do anything about it until she either finds a cure, convinces him to try Janette's cure, or to bring her across. Another part of her crankiness may be because her knee may be acting up again. All that squatting at crime scenes and then standing to do the autopsy can be hard on the knees. I know that when my knee hurts I'm likely to be more cranky than usual. Judy JudithF955@a....... Natpacker, Knightie and N&N packer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:13:15 -0600 From: "Kristin M. Bachman" <bachman@o.......> Subject: Vampire poll Yes, Ray. I believe in vampires...and just about any other supernatural- or mythological-type creature. They're out there...somewhere. Hiding, waiting to see who'll discover them next. I think they consider it a game of hide-and-seek. I don't KNOW any vampires, but I DO have a fried who bears a striking resemblance to Janette (it's TRUE). The Vanisher bachman@o....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:17:23 -0500 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Re: Tracy and Vampires Ray in answer to your poll - both my daughter and I believe that there is definitely more out there than meets the eye. I wouldn't be surprised if there were such things as vampires, any more than I would be surprised to find out for sure that we have been visited from beings from another planet. So, I'm definitely open should one (particularly a blonde one) would like to walk up and say "how-de-do?"!!! Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:18:56 -0500 From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......> Subject: OTL Notebook Thanks to Beth, who pointed me in the direction of the episode transcripts on the fiction site, I have the text from Natalie's notebook. Since I know there's at least one other person looking for it, here it is: ---- Est. shot of coronor's building with sign. Nick pushes open door to Nat's lab strolling in, pauses in doorway as he sees it's dark and empty. Nick swings door shut behind him, walks in, looks around idly Only light is from a sickly green fluorescent above a counter and the swing-arm lamp over Nat's desk. Nick walks past the examining table, running a hand along its edge. He wanders over to Nat's desk, sits down, looks like Now what? Leafs through papers. Pauses, frowns. Moves a manilla folder aside, revealing a black lab notebook. Picks it up, opens it, flips a page. Chemical formulae, a graph, notes. Close-up on a page - neat block letters: SIMULATES BLOOD PLASMA AUG 4, 1991 NICK WAS UNABLE TO INGEST... NOTE: TRY INCREASING SYNTHETIC LIPIDS. Nick looks worried, surprised, hurt, confused, especially worried. Clasps hands, hugs arms against himself. Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g....... -*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:05:45 -0500 From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> Subject: Couples Factions: A New One! I would like to proudly declare myself (as a sub-fraction) as a LaCroissant. The LaCroissants are, naturally, those who appreciate the LaCroix-Schanke relationship. You may toss all bricks and other debris in my direction now. -- Jamie M.R. (immajer@p.......) Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR SFK Webgoddess (CuznJamiMR@a.......) I'M NOT HOME. LEAVE A MESSAGE AT THE BEEP. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:32:31 -0600 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: Couples factions The Nick and LaCroix faction - How about Hipsters? As in,"Those two are joined at the hip." Margie (treeleaf@i.......) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:04:08 -0700 From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......> Subject: Re: New Vampires on the Block! Hi all, I'm debating whether I should even attempt to watch the pilot for the *other* show. It's not that I have anything against other attempts at portraying vamps. It's just that I have this feeling from tv guide synopses I've seen that Spelling's treatment will probably make early third season fk look highbrow. Raissa Devereux raissa@i....... NatVampCamp/FoSiL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:01:05 -0600 From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......> Subject: Re: I'm back! And questions. Catherine said: You can't tell what's written in it, >even with a good copy of the ep, but as I recall, at least one of the >diagrams was of a virus, although the biologist we watched it with (take >a bow, Beth!), couldn't tell much more than that. Wait, which ep? Recent one? My mind is failing me at the moment. Virus... Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Thong Throng phoenix@i....... **MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire** *I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:13:13 -0800 From: Amy R. <r......@w.......> Subject: Re: Oh, help. > I need the ONE word that best describes the following characters: May I try? My opinions only, mind you, and partly kidding... Janette: elegant Nick: anguished Natalie: walled Tracy: blond Vachon: rootless Urs: passive La Croix: malignant :) Now, if Nat's blood is cinnamon-apple and honeysuckle, what was Janette's when she was mortal? And do you think it would change if someone became a vampire and then regained mortality? ***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (Amy R.) r......@w....... ***** "How like a winter hath my absence been/From thee"--W.S. Sonnet 97 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:13:09 -0500 From: Cousin Zillah <zillah@INFI.NET> Subject: Re: The humiliation of it, the shame... Yeah, I'm feeling better. Still coughing, but hey... so it goes. I'm told it will clear with time. Have a warm fuzzy on my account. ::grins:: .Cousin Zillah. <address here> <preposterous claims of omnipotence and excessive coolness here> <disclaimers and child-proof cap here> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:09:39 -0600 From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......> Subject: Newsweek Got my Newsweek in the mail today. On page 10 (Cyberscope) on the bottom, right-hand corner, it says: Are you bypassing the raucous flame wars on the Net in favor of mailing lists? Send us the names of your favorite mailing lists <cscope@n.......>; we'll publish the best. Well, I sent my vote in already with a little info about some of the more interesting things we've done here in the past several months. Maybe if a lot of us respond they'll print a blurb about us! Hi to all. ---Sharon --------Sharon Joy - A Forever Knightie - SJoy@u....... There's a past and-----there's a past... Go here: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:21:05 -0400 From: "Carolyn P. McLelan" <cmclelan@f.......> Subject: Compuserve Access My advance apologies to being off list topic, but it is vaguely related. I have been unable to access Compuserve today, to check out the Forever Knight section of SFMEDTWO. My Winsock is timing out, and I'm not getting connected at ALL! My timeout is set to 120 secs. A co-worker as well cannot get into CIS today. Is anyone else having problems or is it just (perhaps) our local dialup access line that's down? Anyone else into CIS today? In particular, from Canada? Thanks Carolyn P. McLelan Check out the campaign to save Forever Knight at: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ***************************************************************** The Mother of Invention *had* to be a Single Mother! ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:40:00 -0700 From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......> Subject: Nat's frustration Hi all, Just my .02 on Nick & Nat. Concerning Nat's role in Nick's quest to redeem himself, a line from the finale of Le Mis keeps coming to mind "....to love another person is to see the face of God." Niether of them have come to terms with her role, but I think Nat is a little more aware than Nick at this point. I think her frustration comes, in part, from this slightly deeper understanding of what the "cure" really is. Raissa Devereux raissa@i....... NatVampCamp/FoSiL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:36:38 -0500 From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......> Subject: New FK Eps...when? Okay, *this* post is ON topic! (I found more questions get answered if I send them separately...) When will the new episodes start airing for FK? I don't want to miss any, even though it's at <shudder> <gasp> 5am. And yes, I *will* be reading Mr. Dale Hartnett at WUHF FOX 31 the riot act about this...LITTLE...detail of timing. Makes it UTTER hell to get up for work the next day...or stay up, for that matter... <shaking head> Sometimes, I wonder... Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!! The Mad Fax Spammer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nytmist@l....... or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!): http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:37:29 -0500 From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......> Subject: Off topic quickie I *gotta* ask this 'cause I don't know where else to look. Currently, Usenet isn't easily accessible for me - at least not yet. Where can I sub to for the <gasp> Quantum Leap list?? I caught the vamp episode, and realized, of all the completely unrelated things, that I want THAT dress. I thought I'd ask on the QL list for details, but I need to know where to send to. Thanks! Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!! The Mad Fax Spammer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nytmist@l....... or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!): http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:07:37 -0500 From: Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......> Subject: Re: POTK *is* cancelled On 25 Mar 1996, Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......> wrote > Yes, it's true that POTK is cancelled. David Gracey posted a notice > about it on Vampyres last fall. He said there weren't enough advance > registrations, if I remember correctly. I didn't subscribe to THIS mailing list until January this year, so I don't know what was posted last fall. I should have figured it out, though, when nobody was talking about it so close to the date. But WHY then was the PotK webpage up until February (or at least late January) when I added it to my Bookmark file? To Alora: POTK = "Prisoners of the Knight", a convention that was SUPPOSED to be held in Toronto this weekend. Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc. <ag775@f.......> Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:21:53 -0500 From: JONATHAN TRACY <RASSILON@u.......> Subject: Re: Tour Warning While not present on the day in question, I have attended other tours hosted by the much-maligned Will Steeves, and I can attest that he always showed himself attentive to the wishes of his out-of-town guests, a veritable treasure-trove of arcane Toronto geographical information, and (despite the occasional elegant hand gesture) a conscientious and responsible driver. I don't understand why what might have been quite a merry e-mail piece on the misadventures of a day when, through no-one's fault, things didn't go quite right, has been turned into a personal and malodorous attack on a decent man. Sincerely, Jonathan Tracy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:38:11 -0500 From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> Subject: Re: Nick&Nat; Nat&LC Laurie CF volleyed <G>: >And the fighting now comes because after being around him for awhile, >the cracks show, so to speak, and she can't so easily accept his >shortcomings without criticizing. <snip> early in their relationship, she >was feeling her way, encouraging him, making allowances for things There's a saying, "Begin as you want things to end"... or something like that, you get the gist <G>. If there's one thing I've learned from my experiences with men, it's that if I have a problem in a relationship, it will almost always lie in my peacekeeping tendencies, when I decide not to make a fuss over poor behavior in "my" men in the beginning, letting them Peter Pan their way through life and our relationships--- *until*, as (invariably) happens, they start taking me for granted. Then my hackles rise, I start cracking down and being more (though not unreasonably so) demanding, and the things that didn't bother me so much in the beginning, such as their drinking habits or casual flirtations with other women, begin to bug the hell out of me, and I can't stand keeping my mouth shut any longer. But it's always rooted in my laissez-faire attitude at the beginning, when things are mildly annoying but not worth it to me to cause a dust-up over, so as a result I permit a lot of behavior that is borderline irritating, but not worth a fight. Which, I suppose, again proves the theory that we all bring our own baggage to interpretation of what we see on screen <VBG>. Perhaps Nat, too, is only _now_ starting to regret letting Nick play fast and loose with the boundaries of his cure regimen, etc., and wishing she'd cracked the whip more at the beginning so it wouldn't seem so all-fired unusually preachy to Nick now? Felicia Bollin AriCon@a....... Ravenette*Immortal Beloved ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:02:44 -0500 From: Pam Maine <mstangel@u.......> Subject: Re: Amending the distribution of EVIL amongst the factions... Jamie wrote: >>Ravenettes are evil in that they induce OTHERS to do their dirty work. and Jackie replied: ><snip>I cannot believe those people saying that the Ravenettes are EVIL! ><snip>Janette is amoral - there is a huge chasm of difference.... OK, this is almost a "me, too" post, but that's how I've _always_ categorized the vampires on FK: LC=immoral/_evil_ (does rotten things just 'cause they're fun), Janette=amoral (does whatever's best for Janette), Nick=moral (sometimes does rotten things, but angsts about them afterwards). I missed this in 3rd ssn: poor old Lu wasn't evil enough anymore, Nat was harassing Nick to behave like a nice human being, and Nick was just waffling (not to mention an ep which might still be spoiler protected). There were some good eps, but the underlying thread was missing. OTOH, while Ravenettes/Janette might not be "immoral", they might still _do_ evil (ie: harmful) stuff or, more often, get someone to do it for them (how _do_ they manage that anyway?) ****Angel 0:)****mstangel@u.......****Pam in the "real world"**** Congrats to: UMass for reaching the NCAA final four Todd Eldrige and Michelle Kwan (gold medalists)\\\1996 World Figure Skating Rudy Galindo and Meno & Sands (bronze medalists)// Championships ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:04:48 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: lots of things, really Hi ALl, I have a question. In "Only the LonEly" Nick didn't have anything to get Nat for her birthday, so why didn't he buy a ring or something instead of flowers? I mean, he has money coming out of his Kuzoo...Or why didn't he give her his Black Budda thing with all the dimonds in it? I mean, if _I_ forgot to get a birthday present for someone who could easyly come into my house in the day and ram a stake though my heart, i would go buy something nice, ya know? Also, I had this fliped out dream last night, I was watching FK, but it was called "Tracy and Her Vamp Friends" The theme song was the theme song to the carebears, but it was sung by Kenny G. It Looked the same, though, execpt that tracy was bald. I need sleep, but i'm kinda afraid to go back to bed, if you get what i mean. I saw "Fever" last week. It just sucked! I will not go into detales, because i'm not sure if it is off spoliers yet, but who ever wrote that should be shot. Cp- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:39:40 -0500 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Hello? Hello out there?? I've been away for two days and it's awfully quiet!! What have I missed? Anything new since Sunday morning?? Eh??? Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:45:04 -0500 From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......> Subject: Re: Oh, help. Janette--vamp Nick--knight Natalie--scientist Tracy--innocent Vachon--hider Urs--canary LaCroix--master --Sandra Gray, forever Knightie --tmp_harkins@d....... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:48:21 EST From: Kenneth Dare <102226.1213@c.......> Subject: A few more questions Hi everyone! It's me again, everyone was so good in answering my questions I thought I'd try it again. 1) I now know (thanks to you all) what Jadfe is. Now how do I get it? 2) Could someone send me "Interview with the Nightcrawler"? 3) I know that it was just posted a few days ago, but could some one send me some general guide line for writing Fan-Fic. I just thought of an almost intersting idea and want to inflect it on you all, and thought you might as well get it in a readable format. Well that's it for now. ------------------- Brandy "Trust in Allha, But tie up your camel" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:09:14 -0500 From: Eileen Salmas <ESalmas@a.......> Subject: Re: Rumors of War/Airwolf ? Airwolf was airing on WWOR -- the superstation -- not WOR in NYC. Unfortunately, we're not back to the episodes with Jan Michael Vincent. I taped most of the ones with Ger, but the quality of the transmission was marginal. Lots of times it looked like the film wasn't threading correctly and it jumped around a lot. Hope this helps. Eileen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:09:20 -0500 From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> Subject: I'm mad as heck And why, you may ask? Am I the only person in the whole country whose syndicated station keeps jerking them around like this? In the past *five* weeks, FK has been preempted *three* times on my local. And now I'm hopping mad. The small contingent (five that I know of, no telling how many may have gotten reached by flyers) I was able to get together in this area has more than made their presence known. Even with the upheaval of the general manager's death, imo there is no excuse for this behavior. The **more** we write and call, the more cavalier their scheduling becomes. When it was "Fever", they made up some excuse about not receiving it via the NBC satellite feed. Now, when they're in reruns of FK, I wonder what their excuse will be when I call next? Two "National Geographic on Assignment" episodes, and one fifties movie this past week. Very creative, but surely not on the network head honcho's "must-air" lists, no?? I keep wondering whether this has to do with FK's cancellation. Is *anyone* else registering unusual blips and blurps in their syndie's handling of FK? Quirks or vicissitudes like chopping off the beginning or the ending, starting early or late, or unexpected preemptions? The timing of this really smells fishy. I haven't been watching FK the longest, but I never remember things like this happening the middle of second season, when I signed on. The worst they ever did was postpone the rerun of PotM for half an hour. Then all of a sudden, the show gets cancelled, and we have scheduling problems. Hmmm.... You'd wonder, wouldn't you? Felicia Bollin AriCon@a....... Ravenette*Immortal Beloved ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:15:59 -0500 From: Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......> Subject: Nick and Janette/Nat & LC Pardon my tardiness for jumping in on this discussion, but major problems on my computer this past week dictated the purchase of a new machine and subsequent transfer of files. A little delay! From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......> >>And in my opinion, there is far more sexual tension and electricity between LC and Nat in that episode than there is in any and all episodes between Nick and Nat.<< Absolutely, and while we're on the subject, the sexual tension between Nick and Janette in so many episodes cannot be dismissed! We're talking chemistry here, and history, certainly electricity! After seeing so many scenes between these two and then to claim Nick and *Nat* are soulmates, uh, uh. No way. Speaking of Nat and LC again, I still maintain that their interaction is the biggest untapped potential of the show! >>Imo, what Nick says to LaCroix at the end of BMV about using Nat is the truth. Nick thinks he's only fobbing LC off with an excuse, but LC knows it's truer than Nick thinks from the bond between them and that's why he leaves Nat alone.<< Insightful, Laurie, and although I always believed Nick, my thinking is turning more and more this way as I work on my current story! I can well believe now that LC knows Nick far better than Nick himself does. Vicki Merriman - >vmerrima@i.......< wrote: >>It just doesn't seem to me as if he really, truly cares about her. He's too focused on his own angst and the "glorious attainment of mortality" redemntion objective to really be able to put anything into a relationship.<< Well, I wouldn't say there's NOTHING between them. But what they do have, I do not think is lasting, nor do I think it's particularly good for either of them. I think we're clearly talking about Unwellness Love here! And by the way, if Nick has "been a bitch" to Nat this season, I can't say she's exactly been an angel, either! In fact I've gone off Nat completely this season because of her ragging on Nick (regardless of whether he needed the ragging or not, this is NOT healthy in a relationship!). Of course, as a Dark Knightie, I believe Nick isn't really interesting in mortality nearly as much as he's interested in redemption. And Nick isn't facing facts in this at all - according to what he learned in the near death experience ("Near Death") he has a LOT of atoning to do. Why would he think he could achieve that as a mortal? There's no way he'd likely have TIME to atone as much as he feels he needs to! >>Also, I think Nat is more than a little focused on him as a science project, rather than him as a man.<< Oh, no, I believe Nat is definitely attracted to him as a man, though the science project is part of the package for sure. All in all, I would not deny that Nick has feelings for Nat. That much is obvious (LNMTA). But I do doubt that they have any future whatsoever. Nick is far too caught up in himself and his own problems, which I think is understandable considering what his life has been like. I'd like to see Nick accept the obvious and work to fit his moral principles into his vampirehood better, and I'd like Nat to drop Nick like a hot potato and get a man she deserves who will be good to and for her. Don't get me wrong, I do love Nick, but I don't think Natalie Lambert is the answer to his dreams and he certainly isn't the answer for her. Oh, and while I m on it, regarding Sandra Gray s post on 3/22: Right on, Sandra! I wish I could say stuff as well as you do. But I like what you say! Regarding Nat and LC - I explore their possibility a lot in "Transitions" which I should be ready to post in a couple weeks if all goes well. Besides exploring how Nat might accept something of a relationship with one such as LC, I also explore how LC would rise to the occasion to actually be good for her (hey, I think he can do whatever he wants, even be good!) And of course interesting is how Nick handles all this! But then, he's, ah, back with Janette big time... ;D Dame Marcia Tucker, ScFiMarci@a....... Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved Perpetually Caught Between 2nd & 3rd Season in that Lovely Limbo Soon coming to FKFIC-L: "Transitions", the Immortal Beloved / Valentines story you've been waiting for! Can you say "Jade earrings"? ;D ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 26 Mar 1996 to 27 Mar 1996 - Special issue *******************************************************************
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