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Digest - 26 Mar 1996

Tue, 26 Mar 1996

There are 27 messages totalling 669 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Oh, help.
  2. EYEBROW CHALLENGE: Urs and the Pretty Little Bottle (1/1) (2)
  3. Ger's Airwolf Eps
  4. NK+LC (was Couples Factions)
  5. Amending the distribution of EVIL amongst the factions...
  6. Just wondering
  7. FK UK
  8. Ummmm...Hand?
  9. Best season?
 10. Feedback from the Dominion...
 11. familiar face on Airwolf
 12. purple edible thongs
 13. I'm back! And questions. (2)
 14. Tracy and Vampires
 15. Vampire blood and being brought across
 16. NK-LC Faction (2)
 17. Tapes of Canadian shows?
 18. Nick and *who?!?* Faction
 19. New Vampires on the Block!
 20. #@#&*&#
 21. Next Year's Geminis
 22. LIST RULE: NEW: No Anonymous Subscriptions
 23. Seeking Old Top 10 -- Nat...
 24. sc&va

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:48:39 -0600
From:    Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Oh, help.

Bonnie begged:

>oh, help.  please, please.  help.  oh, please.
>I need the ONE word that best describes the following characters:
>Janette,
Vamp.

 Nick,
Done.  Brick.

 Natalie,
Frustrated.

 Tracy,
KILL!

 Vachon,
Stare.

Urs,
Existing.

 La Croix
God.

All I can say in my defense is it's 7:45 am., I'm STILL UP, I've been
drawing and writing odd things all night, and I'm beginning to hallucinate.
I rather like the Tracy and LaCroix words, tho.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Thong Throng
phoenix@i.......
**MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire**
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE: The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:14:48 -0500
From:    Gehirn Karies <SoulDebris@a.......>
Subject: Re: EYEBROW CHALLENGE: Urs and the Pretty Little Bottle (1/1)

OOOOOps
Before anyone else has a stroke,
I meant to post my personal praise Re: Cousin Susuan's
ah......too funny story to her private box last night.
Sorry.

Karies,
Crawling back into my cave, Ducking from the List Owners

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:16:02 EST
From:    SHIRL CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: Re: Ger's Airwolf Eps

I said:
<<Does anyone know if Saturday's WOR episode of Airwolf had Ger in
it?<snip> I was wondering if Friday's was the last one.>>
     Thanks again to everyone who answered my question. If anyone else
was wondering; Friday's ep was the last one with Ger.

Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......> A-Negative FoFoD

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:20:45 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: NK+LC (was Couples Factions)

Leigh (Ghoti) wrote (re: Oedipal faction naming potential):

>   Ahem... shouldn't that be the Electra faction, Oedipus was in love with
> his mother  *not* his father.

Yeah, I did consider that, and consulted the dict., but as NK has only
1 actual vampire 'parent', the opposite sex factor didn't apply in the
traditional sense; it seemed to make more sense (seeing as how Nick
also does want to kill his 'father') than going with the female
(Eletra) version (that would be the Janette-LC faction....)

I was amused by whoever posted the "Oedipus Wrecks" (OW's -- hmm, doubles
as Oscar Wilde -- there's my obsessing setting in again) suggestion.


Kim B.
flowper@o.......

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:20:49 -0800
From:    Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: Amending the distribution of EVIL amongst the factions...

At 11:49 AM 3/25/96 -0500, Jamie wrote:

>Ravenettes are evil in that they induce OTHERS to do their dirty work.

Ok, I've never posted in discussion.

However, I cannot believe those people saying that the Ravenettes are EVIL!
They are not evil; the definitions of evil are 1. morally wrong; immoral,
wicked.  2. harmful, injurious.  3. characterized or accompanied by
misfortune or suffering; unfortunate, disastrous.  4. due to actual or
imputed bad conduct or character. 5. marked by anger, irritability,
irascibility   (which, btw, reads like the ultimate definition of LaCroix!)

        "Websters Encyclopedic Unabridged Disctionary of the English Language"


        Janette is amoral - there is a huge chasm of difference, i.e.
without moral quality, having no moral standards, restraints or principles -
as opposed to moral, i.e. of, pertaining to, or concerned with right conduct
or the distinction between right and wrong.

        She certainly had enough moral fiber in her mortal life; doing what
she had to do to survive while still maintaining a spark of humanity, love,
caring and yes, morality.  IMO, it is only since she, being an exceptionally
bright individual, realized her lack of a mortal deadline, that she came to
feel *nothing* for humanly imposed restrictions and limitations, a/k/a/
mores and morals.  They simply do not apply to her!  She is certainly
concerned with the vampire community's rules and restrictions - they can
affect her and her life (death?).

        Think about it...if you realized that you will not die, that you
will go on when all others around you have passed away, that the wealth,
knowledge, taste,  etc that you have accumulated will not cease within your
grave - I feel that your attitude towards what passes for right and wrong
within this earthly realm will under go a vast change - sort of along the
lines of ....yeah...sure!!! in your dreams type of thing.  One might even
characterize it as a sort of ennui with human restrictions.  Sort of a "do
as thy will, thy will doth not concern" attitude.  There is *no* evil, per
se, there is simply contempt for perceived restrictions which others may
wish to heed, but which pass by unnoticed by Janette.





Jackie

Support your local Attorney....Send your kid to Medical School!
ejdjd@i.......

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:55:31 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Just wondering

Jean asked:

>How many 3rd season episodes will there be in total?  I've seen 18.

There are four more:  Jane Doe, Francesca, Ashes to Ashes and Last
Knight.  They will air during May sweeps, with the last ep probably
going out Memorial Day weekend.

>I have also just heard from a very reliable source that 1st season FK
>has begun showing in England, and that footage not shown in the US
>_or_ Canadian versions has been included.  Can anyone confirm that?

I can confirm that 1st season FK is indeed being shown in England (they
just ran 1966 a week ago), and they are using the long Canadian
versions.  I believe confusion has occurred because although all the
Canadian versions are longer than the US versions, some Canadian
versions are longer than other Canadian versions (just to further
complicate matters). <g>

There was a special version of Canadian eps - someone up there, help me
out please, I forget the name - which is the longest version.  That is
what they are showing in the UK.  They are also rather strange because
they don't have English subtitles for the French. (So if you don't know
French, and don't have the subtitles memorized already, you don't know
what they're saying.)

A friend of mine and I discovered this by accident one day, when we
discovered that my Canadian version of a particular episode contained
scenes that her Canadian version didn't.

LaurieCF

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:10:16 -0600
From:    Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: EYEBROW CHALLENGE: Urs and the Pretty Little Bottle (1/1)

At 12:05 AM 3/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Susan,
>
>Too fucking funny!
>
>Karies

Hi,

    I don't know if anyone told you and you might have sent this by mistake,
but we have some younger ones on this list too and we aren't allowed to use
profanity. Makes Jaye really angry.

Please don't be upset with me for telling you, I'm not flaming and as I
said, this may have just been one of those "I didn't mean to send this to
the list" things.

Annmarie
Save FOREVER KNIGHT! E-mail me or visit the homepage
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
FOREVER KNIGHT will be on shown on the SciFi Channel starting in April!
Cousin, Vachon Ogler, MPPB,MFW-Cavalry: "We're tougher than we look!"
***The Mother of Invention *had* to have been a single mother!***

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:18:55 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: FK UK

LaurieCF wrote:
> I can confirm that 1st season FK is indeed being shown in England (they
> just ran 1966 a week ago), and they are using the long Canadian
> versions.

Do you happen to know whether it's a Sky sattelite channel, or a
regular station?  Any further info would be most appreciated -- I
might be able to line up a taper.

Kim B.
flowper@o.......

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:17:36 -0500
From:    patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: Ummmm...Hand?

        Gang:
        The Lone Nanette is back. Not that anyone probably cares, but I'm back
anyway. :) I'll be annoying you all with more fanfic than y'all can shake a
stick at -- *after* my first big JADFE story is done.
        Now, to my question. I was on nomail during spring break, and as soon
as I returned, I went mail again. Okayfine. Then I take a weekend break, in
which some thirty-five digests piled up (!). I deleted most of them out of
Hand (bad pun, but I had to take it), and in so doing, missed the entire Hand
thing. Can someone privately e-mail me, and fill me in on what the deal is?
        Thanks.

        ObFK -- sort of: I may be throwing a combination graduation and FK
party in Bloomington, IN. That is *if* and ONLY *if* I can get enough people
interested, and find a suitable location. My condo is terribly small (if
there are more than five people in it, it's packed), and is therefore not a
good place for a party. If someone on-list lives in the Bloomington, IN area
(or reasonably close -- within 10-15 miles) has a place they'd be willing to
let us use, I will be more than happy to bring my FK tapes (all of Canadian
first season, most of third season, and The Thing We Shouldn't Have, as well
as my copy of the FK Soundtrack CD). Tentative date is around the middle of
June. If I can get interest, I'll set up something more permanent. E-mail
me privately, please.

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:33:01 -0500
From:    Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Best season?

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Ray Heuer wrote:

>      In NiQ, which I just saw again, Nick suffers from Amnesia, even to the
> point of forgetting he's a Vampire until a good dose of sun"burn" sets him
> back on the right track.

It didn't look to me as though he regained his memory at that point - in
fact, that's when Natalie reluctantly told him he was a vampire.

As fun and enlightening as Night in Question was, it did have rather
large plot holes - one of which was the hanging question of whether Nick
*did* regain his memory. I assume that he must have, more or less,
because in subsequent episodes he had flashbacks.


                  Katja Stokley    -*-    cstokley@g.......
            -*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:36:37 PST
From:    Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Feedback from the Dominion...

On Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:59:22 PST Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......> writes:
>> Also, you would be surprised what's on video.  You have to check at stores
 that
>>  sell videos only.


But Teri and I do check the video stores in Austin, including the Warner Brothers
ones.  Sorry for omitting HONEYMOONERS and HILLBILLIES from the store lists, we
just only have seen them in the mail order and video club ads.


glw
:D

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:54:13 -0500
From:    Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Lady Sushi wrote:

>
> Y'know, we could always put on Rocky Horror Picture Show afterwards.  If
> Uncle is drowsy/unconcscious enough.... hmmmmm... we need some little gold
> briefs with matching boots.  And LOTS of rice.
>
> Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Pinky&Brainiac
> phoenix@i.......
>
Ya know, this is going to be a fun evening.  I can't wait to get started.

Wendy

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:59:11 -0500
From:    Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: Re: purple edible thongs

On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Michelle Mark wrote:

> Well, we have reached a new low.....and as a Cousin I am delighted....
>
Isn't this fun!?!?!?!?!


>
> They have them at Spencer's Gift Shops, right next to the body paints.  Not
> that *I* have ever bought anything like that!!  ;0 <g>

I shall have to go and check out the situation at my local Spencer's

>
>
> umm...well, Sandra did a pretty good job getting him out of his clothes in
> the wine cellar......Sandra?  how 'bout it? <VWEG>
>
> Cousin Michelle (who thinks the rsapberry taste better anyway)
>

AHA!!!!  I knew you were lying about never having bought one! <g>

Wendy, who is heading to Spencer's even as we speak

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:56:53 -0800
From:    Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: Re: I'm back! And questions.

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Amy R. wrote:

>      3) In "OtL," what does the card say?  What is the picture on the
> front?  And, as Katja asked, what did Nick see on Nat's desk?  My copy of
> the ep is many fuzzy generations down...

The card has a picture of a sunrise with a shooting star across the top,
and inside, it reads: "(Dear?) Natalie, Happy Birthday.  With Affection,
Nick."  But this is strictly from memory, so I could be wrong about this
or that.  But not about the "with affection."

Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone                 catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
 themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:59:09 -0500
From:    Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy and Vampires

Tippi wrties:

>OK, I got a chuckle out of Tracy - sweet little Tracy who had a cat name
Fluffy and >probably wears flannel granny-gowns - believing in vampires.

     Well, I suppose it depends on how you define 'belief'.  Some of us on
the list "believe" in Vampires, ie, we think they're out there somewhere -
hidden - we just haven't met any who declared themselves to us.
     Tracy doesn't 'believe' in vampires, she's had one "walk up and say
'How-de-do'", thus removing vampires from the realm of "belief" or
"disbelief".  They exist - deal with it!

     Having said that, how about a poll?  Do you believe that vampires
actually exist?  Have you met someone who you think *is* a vampire?
     I'll count the answers and post the results in a month or so.  And, just
so you don't think I'm setting you up for a flame, I'll be the first one to
take the heat -

    I BELIEVE!!  But no, I've never met one.
     And this from someone who can't abide garlic, avoids mirrors, and has
frequently worked nights and slept days.

  --  Ray
   Newly realized member of the Nat Vamp Camp
    I BELIEVE!!
     Rage!  Rage!  Against the dying of the Knight!

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:58:59 -0500
From:    Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire blood and being brought across

     If, as has been stated, that vampire blood can be used as a "cure-all"
and/or a "youth serum", we could hypothesize that one given or drinking such
blood would become a vampire upon dying a natural death.
     The dilemma comes when you realize that, assuming a constant supply of
vampire blood, the person in question would, in all likelyhood, *never* die a
natural death.

     <<lecture mode off>>

  --  Ray
   Newly realized member of the Nat Vamp Camp
    I BELIEVE!!
     Rage!  Rage!  Against the dying of the Knight!

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:54:38 CST
From:    Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Re: NK-LC Faction

Cousin Michele wrote:

FO>I dont know....this whole Nick/LC idea seems really incestuous to me.  I
FO>think their relationship has always been that of father/son.  That's just

I don't think the incest thing applies here.  I mean, in a way, Nick are
brother and sister (their relation is different now, but it
Immortal Beloveds emerged (except maybe the N&N-Packers!).  So what
gives?  I don't think their relationship has been all
that paternal.  When I watch the scene in Trophy Girl where LC wipes the
blood off NK's chin and then licks it off his finger, the LAST thing I'm
thinking is "Aww, look, Daddy's wiping baby's chin off!" ;)  Of course,
I may just be really twisted. ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi, member of The Thong Throng!
Coming soon: SWEET REVENGE, a fanzine of Eternal Champion/FK stories!
Ask me about it! (TippiNB@a.......)

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:34:56 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: NK-LC Faction

Wicked Cousin Tippi wrote:

> When I watch the scene in Trophy Girl where LC wipes the
> blood off NK's chin and then licks it off his finger, the LAST thing I'm
> thinking is "Aww, look, Daddy's wiping baby's chin off!" ;)  Of course,
> I may just be really twisted. ;)

Well, you may just be, but please, please stay that way <g>.

P.S. Tippi - just in case you didn't spot it, the perfect Menage
LaCroix still is in "NiQ" (dream sequence) -- with LC standing as a
ghostly image behind Nick & Nat... the eternal voyeur.
And me with no screen capture equipment.

Kim B.
flowper@o.......

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:29:10 -0500
From:    Linda Simon <lsimon@h.......>
Subject: Tapes of Canadian shows?

Where can a new FK fan get good quality videotapes of at least the first and
second seasons, preferrably the Canadian versions? Is anyone selling them?

Or, if someone with direct or first generation copies would be willing to
lend them to me for copying, I have access to an audio-visual department
with speed-dupe capabilities and could copy your tapes in a short time.  I
would pay all costs, of course.

Thanks for any advice.
Linda Simon

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:03:22 U
From:    Celeste Hotaling-Lyons <celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......>
Subject: Nick and *who?!?* Faction

                       Subject:                               Time:3:50 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Nick and *who?!?* Faction              Date:3/26/96

Re: the Nick & <I think *not*...  well, maybe> LC faction, Leigh Fish said:
>Ahem... shouldn't that be the Electra faction, Oedipus was in love with
>his mother  *not* his father.

Um, how about Damon & Pythias?  I mean, *Electra* was a *girl*, ya know.

...or better yet, *Damien* & Pythias.  Hee, hee, hee.  OK, OK, I'm leaving.

Cousine Celeste, who *didn't* get to go on the Toronto Tour `cos she got
dumped out of her assigned car by a tour guide at the last moment... sniffed
sadly, felt kinda bad; skulked off & got lunch instead.  This smiley face
commemorates my narrow escape:   : D    There, are you all happy now?  You
made me use an emoticon against my will.

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:36:05 -0600
From:    "Kristin M. Bachman" <bachman@o.......>
Subject: Re: New Vampires on the Block!

I'd LOVE to get in on this!  The Kindred just make me hiss!

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:22:59 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: #@#&*&#

Well it finally happened. The mail program that has been giving me so
many problem finally died. You know the saying " you can't take it with
you"?...Well it did. Everything is gone...all of the fiction all of the
addresses all of the loops....gone.

  So...now that I have stopped cussing,crying,cussing,hitting
things.....I think I have it working again.

I do need a couple of things from some of you.

Laura...can you take me off of the V-loop...I am unable to get the loop
info back up so I can't respond. If something comes up on the loop that
you feel is important for me to see can you forward it?

Sherri....Can you send me the Vaquero FAQ....I cant believe I have to
ask for my own FAQ <shezzz>.

If anyone sent me stuff in the last three days, I probably didn't get
it. Sherri I did get the info on the card.

Thanks for the help guys,

Dona Torrey

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:44:19 -0800
From:    Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: Re: I'm back! And questions.

On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Katja Stokley wrote:

> "With affection, Nick". Nobody's answered the notebook question yet <pout>.

Shoot, I knew I'd forgotten something... The notebook that Nick picks up
is Nat's medical diary about him.  You can't tell what's written in it,
even with a good copy of the ep, but as I recall, at least one of the
diagrams was of a virus, although the biologist we watched it with (take
a bow, Beth!), couldn't tell much more than that.

His finding that journal is generally considered to be the main reason why
Nick accuses Nat of being in the process of writing a medical paper on
him in Feeding the Beast.

Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone                 catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
 themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:45:23 -0600
From:    "Kristin M. Bachman" <bachman@o.......>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis

I don't know.  I like the one a little later.
"Who are you?"
"One of the damned.  One of YOUR damned!"
Those words just stick.  Maybe because they apply so well.
Vanisher

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:53:16 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: LIST RULE: NEW: No Anonymous Subscriptions

Due to the recent FK NotTour post, after discussion with Jaye, a new list
rule is being implemented.

All subscriptions to the FK lists MUST have a real name attached to them.
In other words, when you sign on, you MUST give a first name and a last
name -- no more "Subscribe Forkni-l Anonymous Pseudonym" stuff.

Any new subscriptions that do not list a real, legitimate name will be
contacted, and asked to provide this information before subscribing.
Current subscriptions will not be affected, at this time.

This policy is being instituted due (in part) to the fact that AOL makes it
very easy for people to hide behind false identities.  Anyone who has
anything to say on this list should be able to speak their mind openly and
courteously; and others should have the ability to know who they are
listening to, and be able to respond accordingly.

If you have any questions or need clarification of this matter, please
contact me PRIVATELY, off-list, and I will be happy to explain further.

--
Jamie M.R. (immajer@p.......)
Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
SFK Webgoddess (CuznJamiMR@a.......)
I'M NOT HOME.  LEAVE A MESSAGE AT THE BEEP.

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:40:56 -0500
From:    Chana Rossman <bonney@i.......>
Subject: Seeking Old Top 10 -- Nat...

A while back, someone posted a list -- Top 10 Reasons Why
Nat has a great life.  (It contained something about riding
on elevators and watching the big screen tv...)  I'd appreciate
it if someone who kept a copy would e-mail it to me!

Also, since there has been a debate on whether or not
Nick/Nat make a good couple, I'd love to something
along the lines of:

  Top Ten Reasons Why Nick and Nat Make a Good Couple

Alas, although I'm a true Nick&Natpacker -- making up
top ten lists isn't one of my talents.  Any ideas?

Thanks in Advance!
Chana Rossman
Knightie * Natpacker * Nick&Natpacker
*I have been one acquainted with the [K]night *

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Date:    Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:51:54 -0600
From:    "Kristin M. Bachman" <bachman@o.......>
Subject: sc&va

I don't know.  The three of them-Vachon, Screed and Urs- somehow make me think
of the Three Stooges (don't ask me how).
Vanisher

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