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Digest - 24 Mar 1996 to 25 Mar 1996 - Special issue

Mon, 25 Mar 1996

There are 33 messages totalling 1009 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. OOPS!
  2. More on Nat's nagginess
  3. Nigel, Jamie, Denver Party, tacky drinks
  4. We have a SONY exec???
  5. PotK convention CANCELLED?!?
  6. FK Tour Warnings (2)
  7. The humiliation of it, the shame...
  8. familiar face on Airwolf (5)
  9. NK+LC (was Couples Factions)
 10. Starlog
 11. Cousin's Bar: Official Ingrdient?
 12. FK bumperstickers/need address (2)
 13. Help!
 14. Starlog Writer/Journalistic Blockade
 15. Next Year's Geminis (3)
 16. Help on webpage please
 17. NK+LC affiliation
 18. POTK *is* cancelled
 19. YKYB... and FYA
 20. HELP!
 21. LaCroix as a Heffalump
 22. couples faction
 23. Ger's Airwolf Eps
 24. Affiliation Update
 25. NK-LC faction...

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Date:    Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:08:44 -0600
From:    The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: OOPS!

Sorry, all.  Just accidentally posted a story to forkni-l instead of
fkfic-l.  Forgive me?

This is what you get for getting no sleep.

I am quite embarrassed.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
**MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire**
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:11:14 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Re: More on Nat's nagginess

Cousin Tippi says:

>I mean, haven't you ever been dating someone in a hopeless
>relationship but you couldn't bring yourself to break up with
>them?  So instead you start subconsciously doing things that
>irk that person? <snip> what you're doing is *building a wall*

Actually, I have heard of such things.

Friends of mine have referred to it as "the preemptive strike" <EG>.
 However, the way they explained it doesn't have anything to do with a wall.
 Rather, the rationale they give for this behavior is *trying to tick the
other person off* so that you can get *them* to break up with *you* so you
don't have to do the dirty work.  Perhaps Nat has a subconscious wish to
drive a wedge between herself and Nick by naggy behavior and thus sever any
possibility of getting close romantically, due to intense fear of
relationships herself.

And:  Re:  Feedback from the Dominion

C'mon, guys.  Even *I* know better than that.  And I watch almost NO
television.  Not only Beauty and the Beast, and Remington Steele, but at
least *ten* other episodic shows I found listed in an ad in some magazine
(Entertainment Weekly, perhaps?)  And, let's not forget the Highlander <grrr>
tapes, "with special footage never seen before!" commercials proliferating on
late-night tv.  You'll just have to do better than that, Sci-Fi.

Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:08:16 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel, Jamie, Denver Party, tacky drinks

On Mar 24, 1996 15:33:34, 'Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>'
wrote:


>Besides, that second comment was meant to be taken generally, not
>specficially.

I'm sorry. (she said contritely.)  Just me being, y'know, me.  No offense
intended.  Here, let me buy you a drink... <g>

And can we please (she begged the list at large) trash this subject line?
It's starting to bother me.  I mean, something about the above combination
of words just makes me acutely nervous.

I mean, it's, like, "when was I in the Rockies, and what did I miss?"



Love, Jamie
<immajer@p.......>
Illustrated-Assistant-Listowner-Webgoddess-Type-Thing
"You mean... they thought we wouldn't NOTICE that we were getting the
shaft?  Heh."
I have 313 messages in my inbox.  Please shoot me.

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:33:55 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: We have a SONY exec???

>>> I mean we have a SONY exec here, right?  And an actor from the show? and
>>> the guy who writes the music (hi Fred!).

We have a SONY exec???

Hmm.

--
<----- Jamie M.R. ------ immajer@p....... ----->
<--The Illustrated Cousin  (but I'm NOT a Cousin)-->
<--Cinnamon NatPack/Merc, AthCoS-->

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:51:25 -0500
From:    Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......>
Subject: PotK convention CANCELLED?!?

Has the "Prisoners of the Knight" convention in Toronto this weekend been
CANCELLED? I just saw what appears to be a notice to that effect on the
convention link of the FK information page. Is it TRUE? I've been waiting
for the thing for SIX MONTHS, but I didn't DARE make advance reservations
because of my employment situation. WHAT HAPPENED?!?

Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc. <ag775@f.......>
Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 01:00:00 -0500
From:    FK NotTour <NotTourNot@a.......>
Subject: FK Tour Warnings

Will Steeves wrote:

> please don't shoot me...or "Fire at Will", for that matter).

Consent freely given!

We can't let this one pass, sorry.

> Catherine Siemann:  Hmm...on behalf of the Ravenettes, would you ever so kindly
> accept my most humble of apologies for having had Deborah autograph a _third_
> season cast photograph?

NO!  Catherine, don't accept this apology.  After all, Raven/ettes have
pride.  Binder paper would have been better and he should know that.  He is,
after all, a grownup.

And now, the point of our public service announcement:

> A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT - hopefully, you're still reading this far... :-)

> While sitting in the theatre before the play, it suddenly occured to me to ask
> someone from out of town,  what he/she thought of the welcoming mat (so to
> speak) put out by the Toronto contingent.  [...]  "Hey, what about having a
faction for > > the Toronto tour guides?".  She agreed that it was a smashing
idea (in more words), > > and so the TORONTO TOUR GUIDES Faction was born.

> What can the TOUR GUIDES do for you?

Well, let us tell you what they did for us...

It all started one bitterly cold, windy Sunday afternoon in February.  At
1:30 p.m. Toronto time, Will Steeves and Lynne Ackerman were to meet in the
lobby of the Primrose Hotel to co-ordinate a "three hour tour" of Forever
Knight hotspots.  Their victims were instructed to meet them at 2 p.m., and
to be ready to leave right away.

Shortly (?) after 2 p.m., Will and Lynne finally appeared.  They left their
victims standing by the elevators as they huddled on a couch, scribbling
hieroglyphics on scraps of paper.  Inquiries were made from time to time by
the victims as to when the tour would leave, but no answers were forthcoming.
 The "Tour Guides" were still figuring out what they were going to show us on
the tour.  Gee ... and we thought they'd given this tour many times before.

Eventually, when the victims were ready to call it quits, Will finally
announced that the tour was ready to leave.  There was only one small
problem.  His car had no gas.

Sooooo...  Will went to get his car and meet everyone out front, while the
victims piled into two cars, with Lynne in the front car (so she could let
them know what they were seeing -- too bad about the victims in the second
car, surely they'd be able to figure it out on their own), and prepared to
follow Will to the gas station.  There was only one small problem.  Will
forgot that he was the leader.

When the victims pulled out of the driveway, Will was nowhere in sight.  He
claimed later that he was behind the second car, but no-one saw him ... and
we were looking for him.

Following Lynne's instructions, the first car turned out of the driveway and
made a left turn at the lights.  This was, apparently, not quite correct.  As
a result of the misunderstanding, both cars had to make illegal u-turns.

In a futile attempt to discover what had happened to Will, the two cars
paused briefly near the hotel, but continued on when it was obvious that he
had not waited for his tour to follow him.  He later claimed that his victims
had "lost" him.  Exactly how do you lose your leader?

Lynne assured the victims in the first car that she could guide the tour.
 After all, she is a "Tour Guide".  To make a long story short, we wandered
around Toronto for a number of hours, following the garbled instructions of
someone who does not drive.  For your pleasure, we offer some highlights:

Illegally parking in front of and blocking the entrance to the parking garage
of the Metropolitan Toronto Police Headquarters.  There was only one small
problem:  the police officer trying to get into the garage objected.

Stopping on a street in front of an alley.  There was only one small problem:
 the victims in the second car had no idea why they were stopping there.  How
did they find out?  Two of the victims got out of the first car and told them
... this was apparently the alley where the woman had stopped in her car in
Sons of Belial.  Wow!!

Pulling into the parking lot of Casa Loma (where Father Figure was shot).
 There was only one small problem:  you can't get into Casa Loma in a car
without paying.  So, the cars did another u-turn out of the parking lot, and
pulled over on the road just in front of the Casa Loma.  There was only one
small problem.  It was a two lane road, and other people wanted to pass.

At this point, the victims staged a rebellion.  They no longer wanted to
follow the "tour".  All they wanted was to see the loft, the police station
and the studio.  So, off we went.

...and went... and went... and went....

A quick drive through Chinatown on a Sunday.  There was only one small
problem.  The cars didn't move in Chinatown that Sunday.  Heck, the
pedestrians were hardly able to move in Chinatown that Sunday.  So... the
cars crawled along the road -- at one point, almost losing each other.

One of the victims took advantage of the lull and got out of a car to pick up
her photographs.  Lynne directed the first car in a looping maneuver,
including a highly illegal u-turn on Yonge Street.  By the time the victims
made it back, the photographs had been picked up, paid for, and the victim
was waiting patiently for her ride.

The victims did make it to the loft and the police station.  There are
photographs to prove this.  There was only one small problem.  By this time,
one victim had surrendered to motion sickness from driving around in circles
for hours.  And the tour wasn't over.

So, on to the studio via a brief peek at Jilly's strip club.  There was only
one small problem.  This was against the clearly spoken wishes of the victims
-- they didn't want to see Jilly's strip club.

The studio was fine.  It was freezing, but we got to see the dressing rooms,
ogle the cars belonging to the cast and crew and, last but certainly not
least, have our pictures taken in front of the now-removed Forever Knight
sign.  There is even a truly spectacular shot of Lynne's gloved thumb in one
victim's photograph.

> In short...if you're from out of town

Beware!

> (or even a local who hasn't yet met the rest of the Toronto list
contingent),

Beware!

> both), and we'll set up a fantastic and unforgettable tour of many of the
> Toronto filming sites, complete with company provided by the Toronto
> contingent.

Okay, we admit it ... the tour was unforgettable.  Both drivers suffered
nervous breakdowns that evening.

> And of course ... the tour is FREE OF CHARGE!

They should have paid us for this!

> Having said this, I'm hoping to organise a tour for the Sunday of Ger's play -
> if you're interested, please write back to me and Lynne.  As far as I can
> tell, we'll have a few cars available (ie., more than just mine!),

Mr. Steeves?  Your car will be available?  Will it have gas?  Will you
remember that you are leading the tour?  Will you plan it out ahead of time?
 Will you give a list of "hotspots" to the people in the other cars so they
know what they're looking at?

Enquiring minds want to know?

Lynne did her best, but it was impossible for someone who doesn't drive to
lead a tour.  Your victims hope you apologized to her profusely.  You
certainly didn't apologize to them.  In fact, you blamed them for taking off
without you.

> get back to us as soon as possible, and we'll start the task of helping you
> wonderful folks to paint the town....red.  :-)

With whose blood?  <VBEG>

> Cousin Will aka "Grandfather", Founder, Spiritual Leader and Designated Driver
> of the Tour Guides.

With a leader like that, how can they go wrong?

Seriously folks, the tour is a good idea.  All you need is a locations list
and a car.  You may even have fun ... if you don't use a "Tour Guide".

Nominating the propellor beanie with a broken compass for the "Tour Guides"
faction pin.

Respectfully yours,

FK Tour Survivors Support Group

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:52:06 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: The humiliation of it, the shame...

On Mar 23, 1996 12:50:03, 'Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>'
wrote:


>Sender:       Forever Knight TV show <FORKNI-L@p.......>
>Poster:       Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
>Did you get my mail?  ARE YOU FEELING BETTER?  That's all I want to know.
>I worry.


This was not a mispost, but a demonstration of why you should always check
the "cc" and "bcc" boxes of your outgoing mail when replying to a
message...

<Sigh>  I cannot tell a lie.  It was indeed a mispost.

<Somewhere in middle America, a listmember leans back in her chair and
sneers at the screen.  "You," she says, to her monitor, "you with the
endless 'list rules' posts, picking on every little mistakes, heh, you're
not so perfect after all, are ya?">

Nope.  I'm not.

You may all shower me with your derision now.

In recognition of my misdeeds, I shall deny myself Warm Fuzzies in penance.


<snif>

Love, Jamie
<immajer@p.......>
<SIG><insert title here>
<insert additional titles here>
<insert humorous quote from fellow listmember>
<obAnnoyCeleste and a smiley :-) ></SIG>

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 01:20:41 -0500
From:    Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, The Other Immortal wrote:

>
>
> That should get interesting.  Are you gonna try it out on Uncle first, or do
> a test run on Nicky?  Hmmmm... codeine, tho.  We COULD always try to slip a
> lot into a bottle of blood, or just drink a lot ourselves and offer our
> blood in homage.  I think I like the second idea better.  Heck, we might get
> him high enough that way to get him to put the thing on himself!
>
>
What can I say, I just love the way your mind works!!
I like the second idea better also. I will bring my camcorder, so we can
have a permanant record of all activities.

Wendy, who is running and hiding from Uncle

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:37:40 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: NK+LC (was Couples Factions)

> Cousin "Susan" Phoenix wrote:
>
>Okay, I've yet another Couples Faction to announce:  Nick and LaCroix.
<<snip>>
>as you like.  Anyone have a name idea?  For once, my mind is blank.

Wicked Cousin Tippi wrote:
>  The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name?  (oops, too Edwardian...)

I dunno.  Kinda like it... the Wilde faction.  The Oscars.
Still, I think it would be the Oedipal faction.


Kim B.

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 01:55:10 -0600
From:    The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

>What can I say, I just love the way your mind works!!

Danke!

>I like the second idea better also. I will bring my camcorder, so we can
>have a permanant record of all activities.

Okay.  Might wanna put the elephant lens on, though.  I have a feeling the
regular one might get broken.
And, of course, we have to make free copies for EVERYONE at the Raven...

>Wendy, who is running and hiding from Uncle

COme back here!  He's no rampaging ye--

She who has been devoured,
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
**MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire**
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:55:06 -0500
From:    Maureen McAllister <MoeMcAl@a.......>
Subject: Starlog

<<Date:    Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:30:32 PST
<<From:    Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
<<Subject: Starlog letter

<<I need help with this one guys.  Some time during the "effort", I sent a
<<letter to a reporter who had written an article for Starlog because one
of>>
(snip)

Well, maybe I can help here ( for once!)
The guy's name is Peter Bloch-Hansen, and he wrote two FK-articles for
Starlog -- "Unlife to Live" (NB & Lecroix) on June 1995 issue, and"Forever
and a Knight" ( GWD & NK)  March 1995 issue.

Starlog also published another FK article -- "Knight Shift" ( JK & DS) by Kim
Howard Johnson, May 1995 issue. I imagine by this time someone else has
answered Godsey's request, but just in case, here it is. Starlog's address is
: [Address removed].

Moe McAl
FoD, Nat-packer and Knightie

"Ghost Knight" -- Spin-offf series of Forever Knight where Nick once again is
teamed up with his partner Schanke ( this time as a ghost) who tries to get
Knight to lighten up. Hey, it could happen! ;-)

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:10:44 -0500
From:    Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

Wendy wrote:

>What can I say, I just love the way your mind works!!
>I like the second idea better also. I will bring my camcorder, so we can
>have a permanant record of all activities.

I like the way your mind works too, but......  Isn't it kinda deadly to
videotape things for posterity with the enforcers running around an' nat?
(for the Pittsburghese impaired that means and that, not and Nat :D).  If
there wasn't I'd be happy to bring mine, (and the digital camera from the
Communication Department at Duquesne University-just so we could have nice
pics for my home page.)

>Wendy, who is running and hiding from Uncle

And Cousin Mel brings a bottle of chiante and a deck chair and sits and watches.

Cousin Mel
*NatVampCamp*AmarigeScentedNatPacker*Founder of Valentines*
miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a.......

"Fraid so.  Land mines can be so annoying," LaCroix, from my masterpiece of
fanfic, "Interview With the Nightcrawler"

A little piece of shameless self-promotion never hurt anybody.

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 01:41:01 -0800
From:    Debbie Litchman <debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin's Bar: Official Ingrdient?

At 11:41 PM 3/24/96 -0500, Jamie Melody Randell wrote:

>After doing Ribena shots at Zillah's (no liquor, just Ribena) I am
>discovering that I really really really miss the foul substance'o'death;
>and the thought of diluting it with Vodka is unexpectedly appealing.
>
I am reposting my recipe for "Cape Fear"(based on a "cape cod")

1 shot vodka
1 shot ribena
3 shots soda water

I'v tried it and it's actually very tastety :)

Debbie8@e.......
DarkKNightie/Dn&DNpacker/Nevermore :)/DueSer

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:06:43 -0600
From:    The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK bumperstickers/need address

>Hi Guys,

Hi, Cindy!

>Could some kind soul ethier repost or email me the name of the
>store/address/and phone number that was selling Forever Knight bumberstickers?

Shhhhhhh!!!! No one's supposed to know I can be nice! ;)

The name of the Company is Pegasus Publishing.  Address is:

Pegasus Publishing
[Address removed]

TTYL!

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
**MSTie Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire**
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
THE VAMPYRE GRILLE The Secret's In The Sauce!

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:26:33 -0500
From:    Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Help!

In a message dated 96-03-23 22:24:15 EST, you write:

>She needs for all lists including the play list.

   What play list?  Just curious...

Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:36:12 +30000
From:    Valerie Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Subject: Starlog Writer/Journalistic Blockade

Sherri, the gentleman's full name is Peter Bloch-Hanson.  He's credited
as Starlog's "Canadian Correspondent," and imho he's one of the best
interviewers around.

What a stroke of luck (and testament to the nature of Torontonians!) that
someone picked up his lost letter and returned it to him!  And thanks for
sharing his response with us.  Your news, and that of the person who
talked to McConnell in Cleveland over the weekend, indicates that
Tri-Star isn't playing any straighter with the media than they are with
us.  Their story seems to change daily.  Maybe I'm just being delusional
about our significance, but I can't help wondering if they're withholding
all information because we're too good at annoying the heck out of them
with it.

Minor rant: is anyone else *really* sick of being patted on the head and
fed platitudes about "concrete business reasons" by people who (a) can't
be bothered to be upfront about what those reasons are but hide behind
the implication that we couldn't possibly understand such highfalutin
arcane things, and (b) seem, at least by examination of the facts we *do*
have, to be functioning with the business sense of a turnip?

Discounting the various somebody's-personal-agenda theories (even though
I happen to beleve that's *exactly* what's going on here), what we're
apparently left with is the currently rampant disease of wanting another
X-Files and conveniently forgetting that X-Files wasn't X-Files until Fox
made an investment in audience development that was *utterly*
uncharacteristic of them and of the industry in general.

The facts we have point to a complete lack of accountability
(waitaminnit, isn't that why Sony's in trouble in the first place?) and
lack of respect for both vendors (JP & Co.) and consumers (us *and* the
advertisers, who I realize are still the only *recognized* consumers, and
who are *not* being served by having their spots seen during a show
nobody bothered to promote adequately for the return the evidently
expected).

Say you've got a product to sell, and you toss it on the market
scattershot with zero advertising, then wonder why a small group of
consumers swear by it but the rest don't seem to know it exists.

Needless to say, yo'ure not going to get rich this way.  It'll be a
miracle if you get anything other than a dull THUD.  And any
businessperson *I* know would listen to that "hypothetical"
scenario--and say that a company that functions that way is likely to splat
and probably deserves to.

Okay, this became a major rant.  My apologies.  I know i'm preaching to
the choir here, but it's the only place I've got.  I'm starting to think
I actually liked it better when they didn't think of us as anything but
numbers; now they seem to think of us as silly little children who can be
packed off with assurances that the grownups know what's best.  And
exactly what do they think we all do for a living?  Me, I spend 40 hours
a week at a ballet company that knows what cutthroat budgeting *really*
is, and we'll be around long after Newt and his buddies finish battering
their favorite federal-budget scapegoats out of existence.  We don't have
(or behave like we have) zillions of dollars to waste until we suddenly
panic and pull the plug--standard operating procedure in Hollywood, which
still has its head stuck in the mid-80s, which is why all these
corporations are in so much trouble.  We do things right the first time
because we don't have a choice.  We see what's coming and we plan for it.

Tri-Star seems to expect us to eat our cookies and drink our milk and go
to bed like good little girls and boys.  Or at least *hope* we will--I'll
credit them with enough intelligence not to *expect* us to.  :-)

Call me vindictive, but I'm taking great pleasure in disappointing them.
I'm not vindictive enough to be keeping an eye on their stocks yet, but
it's real close.  I think it'll only take one more inane trotting out of
the old "it *is* a business, you know" BS.  If they think we're buying
it, they're dumber than we thought.  I don't put up with that kind of
patronizing from mechanics and doctors; I'm certainly not accepting it
from them.

I gotta stop not being able to sleep at the crack of inhuman.  %-}

Valerie Lynn Meachum    <valerie@l.......>
    http://members.aol.com/wiliqueen/wiliqueen.html
"One rule of life we cannot rearrange: the only thing constant is change."
PBotFTB*NatPack Head Cheerleader*Amanda Flag-Waver*IotCoS*Pirate Wench

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:55:02 -0500
From:    Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, The Other Immortal wrote:


>
> Danke!
>

>
> Okay.  Might wanna put the elephant lens on, though.  I have a feeling the
> regular one might get broken.
> And, of course, we have to make free copies for EVERYONE at the Raven...
>
>
> COme back here!  He's no rampaging ye--
>
 I might as well come back. He will catch me anyway.
No problem making free copies for everyone at the Raven.  Maybe we should
just rent a theater, and let it rip.

Wendy

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:58:11 -0500
From:    Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: Re: familiar face on Airwolf

 On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Melissa Puzio wrote:

>
> I like the way your mind works too, but......  Isn't it kinda deadly to
> videotape things for posterity with the enforcers running around an' nat?
> (for the Pittsburghese impaired that means and that, not and Nat :D).  If
> there wasn't I'd be happy to bring mine, (and the digital camera from the
> Communication Department at Duquesne University-just so we could have nice
> pics for my home page.)
>
>
> And Cousin Mel brings a bottle of chiante and a deck chair and sits and
 watches.

I figure, the enforcers may want a copy of the video also.  After all,
this is a once in a lifetime offer, so to speak.

Wendy

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:10:58 -0500
From:    Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis

>What about Nigel for "Fever".  I can't get that "my people, my children..."
>speech out of my head.  It may be the most powerful five minutes in the
>history of the show.

I absolutely agree.  Even better than Curiouser and Curiouser, IMHO.

----  TJ

 Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine:  News of the Science Fiction Universe

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:13:34 MST
From:    Bridget Watts <bridget@n.......>
Subject: Help on webpage please

Hello!

I've been trying to get to the www.glue.umd.edu website to see what
nifty things are there for Cousins.

Of course, Netscape won't do it.  It complains that it doesn't
have a DNS entry for that address.

I believe (although I'm no expert) that it needs the (?) IP numbers.
Such as 129.92.34.4  to pull an example out of my overtired brain.

could any kind soul send me those numbers?  I think they would be
easy to get when surfing to http://www.glue.umd.edu.  Netscape at
least tends to put up those numbers for a few seconds at the bottom
of the tool.

Thanks!!!!

Bridget

ps:  I've seen so much about jadfe.  How does one subscribe?

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:22:07 -0500
From:    "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: NK+LC affiliation

About the NK+LC affiliation:

>I think it's an absolutely redrunner idea.  As to a name, may I suggest
>Mort and Pendrakk, or something similar to emphasize how different they
>are. Mephisto comes to mind for LC, but a comparable name for Nick?
>Any Ideas?

I'm sorry.  The first thought that jumped into my head is to call this the
Pinky and the Brain affiliation.

PINKY:  What are we gonna do tonight Brain?
BRAIN:  The same thing we do every night, Pinky.  Whatever it takes to stop
you from becoming mortal!

I'm just going to finish my coffee know.  Everyone think happy thoughts for
"Babe" tonight!

Sharon

--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........  Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:38:03 EST
From:    Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: POTK *is* cancelled

Yes, it's true that POTK is cancelled. David Gracey posted a notice
about it on Vampyres last fall. He said there weren't enough advance
registrations, if I remember correctly.

I thought it had been mentioned on here, but I may be mistaken.

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:09:44 -0500
From:    Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis

Ray wrote:
>What about Nigel for "Fever".  I can't get that "my people, my children..."
>speech out of my head.  It may be the most powerful five minutes in the
>history of the show.

That, and the interaction with Calvin. LaCroix stops him dead in his tracks
with that one hand (and an expression that would freeze magma), then
delivers the "race that dares not speak its name" speech--oooh! And the way
he says the word "revenge!" still gives me the creeps. What a wonderful
performance! I could never be a cousin--LaCroix scares me half silly. If he
showed up in my living room like that, I'd just have a cardiac arrest and
save him the trouble of killing me.

Stephanie Babbitt

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:59:47 -0500
From:    Lynn Messing <messing@a.......>
Subject: YKYB... and FYA

I subscribe to AWAD (A Word A Day), and what should I see appear
on that list but the following? Enjoy! - Lynn messing@a.......

screed \'skre-d\ n [ME screde fragment, fr. OE scre-ade - more at SHRED]
   Scot  1: RENT, TEAR 2a: a lengthy discourse 2b: an informal piece of
   writing 3: a strip (as of plaster of the thickness planned for the coat)
   laid on as a guide


1902 A. DOBSON, S. Richardson v. 117 "Richardson's reply is a screed of
malevolence."


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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:12:31 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis

In a message dated 96-03-24 23:20:19 EST, you write:

>I agree.  That speech reverberates in my head as well.  Nigel is incredible.
>
>

Even when Nigel doesn't say anything he is incredible. I loved him in the
Raven scene in Fallen Idol (no spoiler). THAT was great acting.

Carrie,
Proud Knightie

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:12:54 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Tour Warnings

Help! Help!

I can't breath....

ROTFL!!!

I have just got to take this tour! Sign me up!

What am I saying......

Carrie,
Proud Knightie

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:13:48 -0500
From:    "(Ruth Dempsey)" <Anglofans@a.......>
Subject: HELP!

Help!  Assistance!  Au Secours!  I've had a floppy disk meltdown
and have lost all my filks.  Anyone out there collecting my nonsense please
email me.
Ruth Dempsey Anglofans@a.......
"Narf!"

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:42:24 -0500
From:    Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: LaCroix as a Heffalump

Actually, i think of him as more of a Woozil.

  <<Fleeing from assorted cousins>>

  --  Ray
   Newly realized member of the Nat Vamp Camp

     Rage!  Rage!  Against the dying of the Knight!

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:46:18 -0500
From:    Renee Primack <rprimac@e.......>
Subject: couples faction

Hey y'all.  I'm delurking for a bit:

Re: the Nick and LaCroix thread.  Although a same-sex couple has appeal
to me as a lesbian, I must admit, this particular pairing I find in very
bad taste (pardon the pun.)  LaCroix is Nick's father in many ways and
given the large number of child abuse and incest survivors out there,
there must be a better way to deliniate their relationship than on the
same level as Nat and Nick (about that, why do I feel like I did with the
Beauty and the Beast all the time: kiss already!)

Now, of course, the people who suggested the pairing and who have tried
to name it, may not be thinking of it in those terms at all, in which
case, I'm sorry and I re-lurking.

And am I correct in understanding that if your cable company doesn't
carry SciFi, that's it?  How nasty.  Not that I haven't been bugging them
to add it before this, but now I have an even better incentive...

Renee

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Date:    Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:07:09 EST
From:    SHIRL CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: Ger's Airwolf Eps

     Does anyone know if Saturday's WOR episode of Airwolf had Ger in
it? My cable was out then, so I have no idea. It was back on by last
night, and I saw they're back to the non-Ger episodes again, but I was
wondering if Friday's was the last one. Private e-mail is fine. Thanks.

Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......> A-Negative FoFoD
//"If you come close enough to see I am inhuman, I will tell you why
you're feeling so uncertain, Every word I say, has a way of turning
evil in you"--"The Devil With The Green Eyes" by Matthew Sweet//

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:11:08 -0600
From:    Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK bumperstickers/need address

At 07:07 PM 3/23/96 EST, you wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>Could some kind soul ethier repost or email me the name of the
>store/address/and phone number that was selling Forever Knight bumberstickers?

I sent it to Cindy.

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:22:51 -0400
From:    Stapleton <d7ux@u.......>
Subject: Re: Affiliation Update

On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Susan M. Garrett wrote:

> My two cents on the Natalie thing--no, she hasn't been bitching this season.
> She's just stopped acting like a doormat.  She's started treating Nick like
> a rational human being, instead of a self-pitying vampire.  Which, this
> being the object of the experiment, seems a darn fine idea to me.

Very intuitive. I agree. Natalie for the first season had spunk, then in
the second season, it's almost as if she didn't exist for most of it - she
was getting walked over by Nick. He'd try one "hope" for a cure, and when
it didn't happen, he'd go running back to Nat. She was his grounded
reality, and he took it for granted. The problem was the way Natalie was
written last season. She took his backslides and all and just accepting it
as being "just Nick".

This season, it seems that the writers had woken up. Natalie was no longer
taking any crap from Nick (or LaCroix for that matter). She was involved
in vampire community most likely more than she cared to be and was tired
of the old line: "you're mortal, you wouldn't understand". She seemed to
wear her emotions more openly, and they were often rough on her. But
Natalie still keeps a wall of protection around her. She does not want to
be hurt anymore.

Cath has done a wonderful job of portraying the various emotions of
Natalie Lambert. She's got a wonderful way playing out a whole scene just
by reading her facial expressions (ex. MBIAV teaser).

Lynn Stapleton
d7ux@u.......

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Date:    Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:25:46 -0500
From:    Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: NK-LC faction...

Stephanie Babbitt wrote (re: next year's Geminis & Nigel):

> with that one hand (and an expression that would freeze magma), then
> delivers the "race that dares not speak its name" speech--oooh!

Back to the NK-LC faction (bad, Kim!), I still like the Wilde theme
and Tippi's initial "The love that dare not speak its name" thread.
How about "The Faction that Dare Not Speak Its Name" <eg>.

Kim B.

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