FORKNI-L
Digest - 8 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Fri, 8 Mar 1996
There are 44 messages totalling 1002 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. <No subject given>
2. Fraction Groupings (8)
3. Rereun on USA?
4. Faction groupings (2)
5. Airwolf question
6. FKFIC: Work In Progress: Missing Sections (2)
7. Cast from Japan
8. lots of bottles of blood
9. FK in Wonderland
10. Nightcrawler Tapes
11. Missing Fiction Posts (2)
12. More faction groupings
13. 3 topics this time!
14. Best season?
15. Casting - Star Trek:TNG production (3)
16. 1st&2nd season ads
17. Seasonal preferences
18. A temporary Farewell
19. Faction Groupings (2)
20. N/N Relationship (2)
21. Nick Giving In
22. Faction Gatherings
23. Introduction
24. hod -- getting naked
25. Casting - other Star Trek productions
26. FK fic
27. Season Discoveries
28. Nick Knight versus Forever Knight
29. FORKNI-L Digest - 7 Mar 1996 to 8 Mar 1996 - Special issueODOD
30. BYE!!!
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:48:04 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
stings, USA is showing
reruns on Thursdays, at 1:00 EST.
Margie (mgleaf@a.......)
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:48:33 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
Bonnela writes:
>What would a group of Knighties be called?
This has been discussed before and someone (don't recall who) came up
with the idea that a group of Knighties would be a "crusade of Knighties".
There were some more unflattering "group" designations by people from
other factions which I won't go into. :)
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:50:33 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: Re: Rereun on USA?
Hmm, now that I look at that message
again, I realize that 1:00 Thursday night
is the same as 1:00 Friday morning.
Sorry. Where I live it's 12:00 midnight,
so it seems like Thursday night to me.
Margie (mgleaf@a.......)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:58:32 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
How about an exultation of cousins? After all the cousin-types are
usually rather happy with themselves.
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:33:57 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Faction groupings
At 12:34 AM 3/8/96 -0500, Kimberly Bjarkman wrote:
>Herd of Vaqueros/as? <ducking, running and hiding in a concrete
> bunker>
Trust me, Kim. You can *not* run fast enough or hide any where *safe*
enough to protect you now. <VETG>
Bonnie, member of the Tangle of Vaqueras
(bonnie@o.......)
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:11:43 -0500
From: Rebecca Burns <r.burns@g.......>
Subject: Re: Airwolf question
On Thu 7-Mar-1996 10:05p, Cyberspace Vanguard Magazi wrote:
CM> Speaking of the devil ... that one's on right now. And wouldn't you know,
CM> TONIGHT I miss the first 20 minutes. I KNEW that would happen!
I didn't...I recorded it AGAIN because I was out..Now I have the SP &
EP versions.
CM> Thanks for the info. At least I know there's one more...
Anytime, Dear. Anytime.
Lucky Cousin Becky
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:03:39 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: FKFIC: Work In Progress: Missing Sections
People have been writing to me, asking for sections of that thing I've been
posting ("Work In Progress", sections 1-5 of ?) -- which is lovely, because
it means they want to read it -- and awful, because my provider software is
having conniptions and doing very strange things at random intervals, and
sending story segments to individuals is just not happening.
I've got parts 1-4 up on the web page listed below; but I would be tickled
pink if there was some generous and giving soul that felt like forwarding
old segments to people for me? At least, until I get around to deleting
and reinstalling my server software -- an obnoxious task that I've been
procrastinating on for ages...
Here's hoping that some stray guardian angel of fiction will step forward
and lend a hand (pretty please?); and while I'm on the subject, thanks to
EVERYONE who's written to me about this; I'm glad that there are people out
there who're as intrigued and bemused by it as I am. Hey, I'm just the
secretary: the stories write themselves.
But if you wanna read something really good, check out Apache's
heartbreakingly lovely Vachon piece, "Distant Thunder" that just dropped
about an hour ago. Manohmanohman. Don't miss it.
And btw, part six of mine should be en route fairly soon. :-)
--
-----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL>
----------Cinnamon Natpacker, A. of the CoS, S.I. of TG(tm)
---------------and clinging to Mercdom by the skin of my teeth
Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too.
http://members.aol.com/JamieMR777/NotHomePage.html
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:39:21 -0600
From: Susan Schaefer <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Cast from Japan
Okay, here you are, yet ANOTHER installment of the wild, weird, whacked
world of interesting casts! (Didn't this start as a serious idea?)
Straight from Japan (with a short stop for translation), here you are, the
ANIME CAST OF FOREVER KNIGHT!!!!!
Nick: Ranma. Ranma's always complaining about this, that, hot water, cold
water... (Ranma 1/2)
Uncle: Ranma's dad. You know, the panda who's always trying to put his
son/daughter back in line...
Nat: Eiko (yes, that's how it's spelled). Strong, tends to complain a bit,
wants her own way. (Project A-Ko)
Janette: Biko (B-Ko). Doesn't get a long with Eiko too well, strong,
smart, is more than she appears to be...
Tracy: Shiko (C-Ko). Blonde, no brains, parents have lots of power.
Vachon: Uhhhhh... Tawasaki? I forget his name. You know, the Blue
Lightning kid who loves one half of Ranma and hates the other...
Schanke: Any goofy guy who loves to eat. Pick your favorite.
Alternate Janette: Alita. She was taken from destruction, and reborn as a
powerful being, no longer completely human. (Battle Angel)
Screed: D. The big, cool alien woman bodyguard (she looks like a guy).
(Project A-Ko)
The One Who Has to be In Here, Regardless of Character: Vampire Hunter D.
Good film, bad dialogue. Too good to resist.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Mazdas don't fetch.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:55:40 -0600
From: Susan Schaefer <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: lots of bottles of blood
The saga continues...
Ninety-five bottles of blood in the fridge,
Ninety-five bottles of blood!
Fill one today, but don't pass away!
Ninety-five bottles of blood in the fridge!
Ninety-four bottles of blood in the fridge,
Ninety-four bottles of blood!
It's straight from meat, ready to eat.
NInety-four bottles of blood in the fridge!
Ninety-three bottles of blood in the fridge,
Ninety-three bottles of blood!
Hear Uncle say, "Give me type A,"
Ninety-three bottles of blood in the fridge!
Y'know, I could do this for hours, heheheheheh...
One more...
Ninety-two bottles of blood in the fridge,
Ninety-two bottle of blood!
Have Nat bring by the surplus supply,
Ninety-two bottles of blood in the fridge!
Still crazy after all these jeers,
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
Mistress Liver of the Malkavian Geld.
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Mazdas don't fetch.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:07:37 -0600
From: Susan Schaefer <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK in Wonderland
>Sadly, from Tristar's pov we, the fans, are the "little oyster buddies"
>the "walrus" (Tristar) gobbles down.
Anyone for _Clostridium botulinum_? Make the toothed tub o' lard regret it...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
Mistress Liver of the Malkavian Geld.
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Mazdas don't fetch.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:57:07 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: FKFIC: Work In Progress: Missing Sections
> I've got parts 1-4 up on the web page listed below; but I would be tickled
> pink if there was some generous and giving soul that felt like forwarding
> old segments to people for me? At least, until I get around to deleting
I have all 5 so far and will be happy to forward them to people.
Love, \|/
Wendy Marie |o o|
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------
wendy@i.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:09:27 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Nightcrawler Tapes
OKAY, OKAY, OKAY!!!!! I yield!!!!! So many many many people have been
asking me to make a copy for them I'm going insane. If anyone else out there
wants a Nightcrawler tape e-mail moi, with the subject NIGHTCRAWLER and I
will send you all the info you need to know on how to get it!!!!! I didn't
realize how popular Uncle was!!!! And to the particular faction (take a wild
guess) that keeps telling me I must have hidden cousinly tendencies, all I
have to say is, if I did I wouldn't be making copies for anyone!!!! <G>
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:10:24 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Missing Fiction Posts
AOL has been extremely hungry lately, and ate my mail. Would some nice,
kind soul please send me all the fiction posts from the 6, and the 7th?
Thanks in advance.
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:55:14 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Faction groupings
A squadron of Knighties. A beat of Knighties (especially if they just
tangled with the Cousins <evil LaCroixian grin>.
A pride of Cousins. A family of Cousins (or is that too obvious? <even
more ELG> An unkindness of Cousins.
An accountancy of Mercs. A chocolate box of Mercs.
A bodybag of Natpackers. a bodycount of Natpackers.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:58:48 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
Dona Bonnela wrote:
> A group of Cousins? Etc.
Do you mean like how a group of geese are called a "gaggle"? Fish are
"schools"? That sort of thing? Not sure I understand, but here's my thoughts
anyway...
I think we Cousins should stick with the 'familial' theme. :) I.e, a "family
of Cousins", a "union of Cousins", a "lineage of Cousins", a "heritage of
Cousins"... And then along more esoteric lines we have a "sinistre of
Cousins", a "theatre of Cousins", or a "nightfall of Cousins". Or, if you
prefer tongue-twisters, how's about "a coven of Cousins". ;)
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:00:11 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: More faction groupings
Hey, I had Girl Scout cookies for breakfast -- I'm on a sugar high. :)
A Boredom of Ursines. A Bleachbottle of Ursines.
A Nest of Ratpackers. A Trap of Ratpackers.
A corral of Vaqueras. A choir of Vaqueras (they have to explain all
that time in "church" somehow).
An order of FoDs. A plate of FoDs.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:30:50 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: 3 topics this time!
Allison Percy wrote:
> But do you really want Nick to
>"give in" to his vampire side? When he does, he gives up on himself, with
>devastating consequences. He sees himself as "an irredeemable,
>uncontrollable beast," with no hope of becoming anything different.
Yes, I really do! I really really do! Even if it's just for a little while.
I just wanna see him have some *wicked* fun, paint the town red with
Lacroix, etc etc. He can claim amnesia the next morning, I promise. The
people who wanna see Nick acknowledge his dark side don't want him to become
a morbid, crestfallen, self-loathing vampire as is described above. I'd like
him to be Nick, the Happy Happy Vampire! The last thing I want is *more*
angst! ;)
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:40:13 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Best season?
In a message dated 96-03-06 15:48:21 EST, you write:
>All-in-all, I put first and second season as equals and think 3rd season
>has lost a lot.
Yes!!! Finally someone has voiced agreement with me!!!! I've felt all
by my lonesome in the argument for how much the 3rd season sucks!!!! THANK
YOU!!!
Raventte, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:39:21 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Star Trek:TNG production
In a message dated 96-03-07 19:05:53 EST, you write:
>Janette - Deanna Troi would make a fetching Janette
NO, NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE Deanna!!!!! What a frightening
image. I can't think of any regulars who would make a good Janette.
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:43:36 -0500
From: "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: 1st&2nd season ads
Does anyone have .gif or .jpg copies of any advertisements
for the first and second seasons of FK? I have a copy of the
3rd season ad, but I couldn't remember hearing of any that
existed for the first two seasons. Ideas?
FK Home Page Note: In case you tried to get to the FK Home
page (the unofficial one) and didn't get there, our server
waved byebye to consciousness for a brief but frightening
time yesterday. No need to panic yet.
Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......
Keeper of the Official Unofficial FK Home Page
http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:50:18 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
A Lamentation of Knighties?
A Gathering of Cousins?
Now I lay me down to bed, |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head, |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared, |[Phone numbers removed]
God I love the night! LL after Marvin,tPA |
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:26:18 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Tippi Blevins wrote:
> I think we Cousins should stick with the 'familial' theme. :) I.e, a "family
> of Cousins", a "union of Cousins", a "lineage of Cousins", a "heritage of
> Cousins"...
An incest of Cousins? Lacroix was Roman, after all.
Ap.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:07:23 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Seasonal preferences
I still prefer season one because the background, meaning both visually
and in character complexity, was so much more real. Season two, although
containing episodes I liked, was never the same after the Raven had to
be exchanged for a sound stage and they started scrimping on extras
(the human on-camera kind) everywhere except in the police station.
When we started the second season, it seemed to me like going from
color to black and white. In fact the palate did get darker, but I mean
the psychological effect. As for the third season, the first half was
like going to black and white line drawings from photographs. The 3rd
season so far is more like being back to black and white photograph,
but varying widely in picture quality. There are flashes of color now
and then, as there were in the second season.
However, in the sense of building a complete world into which I can
mentally enter and move around, only the first season works. I don't
think I'd have become more than a casual fan if I'd seen the second
season first. If I'd come in on the 3rd season, first half, with the
exception of MBIAV, I don't think I'd have become a regular viewer.
For me the worst thing about the second season was the first half
loss of the Nick-Nat-Janette triangle. The Nick-Nat relationship was
present in the first season subtext as Ger and CD played it long
before Only the Lonely. It balance with such fascinating precariousness
against Nick-Janette. The triangle returned in the second half, but
it was never the same delicate mechanism we saw before.
Of course the third season completely lost that and I *hated* LaCroix
Lite. Whoever called him LaCroix on Prozac was exactly right.
I miss Schanke very much. Lisa Ryder tries, but Tracy just isn't an
adequate substitute. She and Ger don't spark off each other the way
Ger and John Kapellos did. Because Tracy knows vampires exist
and doesn't have the rich background John and the writers managed to
give Schanke even in the first few episodes of season one, she can't
replace Schanke as the mortal contrast to Nick. She comes off
looking stupid because she never figures out that Nick's a vampire.
It made sense when Schanke never seriously considered it until
he more or less flipped out. Schanke thought vampires were fiction.
Tracy knows better.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:42:32 -0500
From: Rebecca Burns <r.burns@g.......>
Subject: A temporary Farewell
Guys, I got some bad news....
The BBS I use to get my list mail is closing down for good so I won't have
internet for awhile. They are making arrangements with another board in the
area (and I'm searching for one) to accept my account. I was advised by the
sysop this morning that I am to unsubscribe from all lists ASAP.
Until then, I don't have a permanent e-mail address.
For those who have my Number (and you know who you are) Please call me to
keep me up to date. Susan & Roni & Dotti, I'm taping now as we speak. be
patient they'll be done by Shrew.
I will be at the FK Party in VA next saturday.
this really knocked me for a loop as all this happend yesterday afternoon, So
I've been depressed & Paranoid at the same time.
I won't be gone for long...I shall return
Becky
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:57:26 +0100
From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Groupings
A few thoughts off the top of my head for a gathering of Cousins:
a scintillation
a provokation
a menace
a crossing (from LaCroix + gathering + what you don't want to do to one)
Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......>
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:10:49 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: N/N Relationship
Oh, yea I forgot about "Only the Lonely" - that is true. I think I got confused
because the way I got into FK I was watching reruns during the year it was off
and got some of the first season eps confused with second season I think. I
loved the part in OTL when Nat comes home with serial killer (like we didn't
know) and the way Nick behaves is a scream.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:10:51 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Giving In
Allison wrote: " But do you really want Nick to "give in" to his vampire side?
When he does, he gives up on himself, with
devastating consequences. He sees himself as "an irredeemable, uncontrollable
beast," with no hope of becoming anything different.
<sniff!>
I know - but don't cha just wanna grab him and hug him when he gets like that?
Almost makes it worth his getting so depressed if you can "undepress" him later.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:16:11 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
Okay -wait - we have to stop!! (grin) I was fine till I read a "Clan of
Cousins"!! Sorry, visions of pointy headed white sheet wearers just scared me
to death! Let's think of something a little less - er - controversial for the
Cousins, eh?
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:22:15 +0100
From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Gatherings
How about a Confidence of Cousins?
Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......>
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:04:16 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Star Trek:TNG production
In: "Re: Casting - Star Trek:TNG production", mailed on Fri, 08 Mar
96 07:39:21 CST , Janette Z wrote:
>
> In a message dated 96-03-07 19:05:53 EST, you write:
>
> >Janette - Deanna Troi would make a fetching Janette
>
> NO, NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE Deanna!!!!! What a
> frightening image. I can't think of any regulars who would make a
> good Janette.
>
> Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
> CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
> Richie Reservist,
> Janette92@a.......
>
Don Durham replied:
I have it. Although I cannot remember either the actress's name,
the character's name was 'kayliss' (Warf's brief wife and previous
lover). She could make a great Jeanette. Powerful, beautiful,
sensual, AND DEAD.
Don, Cousin
don.durham@d.......
Woody: "You're flying!"
Buzz: "This isn't flying. This is falling with style!"
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:28:04 -0500
From: Beth Washington <Beth_Washington@a.......>
Subject: Introduction
Greetings to all you Forever Knight fans...
I am a new fan of Forever Knight, discovering it for the first time this
year when USA put the 3rd season. I was hooked.
Never having been a fan of vampires before, I was lured into their
romance first by "Interview with a Vampire", the movie. I enjoyed it
(and not just because it starred Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt). Then on
Halloween, a friend brough the Anime movie "The Vampire Hunter D".
Awesome flick! I then watched Bram Stoker's "Dracula".....OK, by this
point, vampires are in my blood (pun intended).
So when I heard of Forever Knight, I had to check it out...and WOW. I
was impressed! I started recording them so I could watch them again, I
started looking for the pilot episode (since I didn't realize this was
the 3rd season and not the first, and that was when I discovered the web
sites, and that there were 2 other season's I missed! Oh if I could see
them all!
I did find the original, original pilot, Nick Knight, starring Rick
Springfield. Bought it for $7 at SunCoast. Poor quality tape, recorded
at SPL, with tracking problems, but was enjoyable to watch all the same.
It explained alot of things about Nick I couldn't figure out, like whay
a vampire would need a Cadillac, because it has a big trunk <g>.
More about me... I am 32, married, and the mother of a 3.5 year old boy,
and a 1.5 year old girl. I work as a Quality Assurance Engineer for
Avid Technology, testing digital video editing software (the kind of
software used by Stephen Spielberg to edit his movies. In my free time,
I like to read (Rawne, Lackey, Chalker, Brooks, Bradley, etc), and I
watch more TV than I should. Among my favorite shows are of course
Forever Knight, Lois & Clark, Highlander, Babylon 5, Star Trek: Voyager,
Hercules, Batman: The Animated Series, and the Anime seris Sailor Moon
(though I am a little old to be watching that one).
I also enjoy skiing in the Winter, and working in my many flower gardens
in the summer. I enjoy party's with good friends, especially Halloween
party's, since I enjoy designing costumes. My life is full and busy,
which makes it one enjoyable ride!
That's about it!
-Beth
aka Biffer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is good. Beth Washington
This is real good! Quality Assurance Engineer
-Tempus Avid Technology, Tewksbury, MA
from Lois & Clark Beth_Washington@a.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:29:28 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Missing Fiction Posts
On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Janette Z wrote:
> AOL has been extremely hungry lately, and ate my mail. Would some nice,
> kind soul please send me all the fiction posts from the 6, and the 7th?
> Thanks in advance.
I sent her these...
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:05:42 -0500
From: cpl <cpl@b.......>
Subject: hod -- getting naked
I watched HOD again (and again for the 3rd time). I didn't mind it as
much as the first time b/c I found the Vachon/Urs stuff to be ok, but
some things have alwasy bugged me about it.
Lisa wrote: (sorry, my mailer does not have indications of previous
text)
She told me he sounded angry, and on playing back the tape, I had to
agree.
>> Really? I've seen it a bunch of time and I think that LC sounds
like he was supposed to sound, sort of excited about this nudie thing.
Yeah, it's totally out of character and makes him uncharacteristically
sleezy and slimy. Whether NB was angry at the time, it appears to me
like he played it as he was "supposed" to. When I heard the line,
"getting naked!", I cringed big time. I can't imagine even acting and
having to say that line without rolling my eyes.
I just didn't
care about the multi-personalitied amateur stripper and I certainly
didn't care who killed the sleazeball she picked up.
>>Yes!Yes! First runner up for the "Ug, what horrible dialog" award
(first of course going to "getting naked!") is when Ellen (her vamp
incarnation) gives her speech which starts with "We are three.". "We
are the Knights who say 'ni'," anyone? Someone who knows psychiatry
tell me whether someone with multiple personalities is aware of the
other ones besides knowing that there's stuff that they have done
which they can't remember. Perhaps they know they have other
personalities but can they analyze them as in "I have 3 personalities,
the Ellen represents this, the second represents that etc.?" Even if
it is realistic that she could know that, it just seemed so badly
placed in the plot to explain everything and tie it all together and
make a nifty ending.
Oh, plus Urs always bored me, so I really didn't care about her
backstory.
>>I kind of like Urs in that I really think the Drew Barrymore thing
is really cute, and I give a 10 for Urs' really cute hair. Would that
my hair could do that. I liked the back story even though it didn't
tell us that much except for the fact that Vachon found her attractive
and that she said she wanted to die. Is she supposed to be another
one of these vampires who really hates being immortal, but can't bring
herself to commit suicide? As for the dialog she's given, well, it
leaves a lot to be desired if we're supposed to think that she's on
the ball, which maybe we're not supposed to.
ping
cpl@b.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:11:20 EST
From: MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......>
Subject: Casting - other Star Trek productions
After seeing Lynne Levine's Star Trek: TNG casting, I
wondered about a Classic Trek cast ('60s version):
Nick - Kirk (same blond, thinning hair; and some have
compared their actors', uh, scenery chewing :)
Natalie - Nurse Chapel (in love with a man she can't have)
Janette - Uhura (exotic & stylish)
Schanke - Scotty
Tracy - Chekov (thinking of youth & inexperience here)
Reese - McCoy
LaCroix - ?
How about a Deep Space Nine cast?
Nick - Sisko (often angsty)
Natalie - Kira (temper, temper)
Janette - Jadzia Dax
Schanke - O'Brien
LaCroix - Gul Dukat or the Cardassian tailor
Oh, btw, Lynne, in your TNG casting, you forgot to include
Wesley Crusher as "Tracy, the Good Cop"!
Should I run & hide now? :)
Idalia Kakesako
<IdaliaK@p.......>
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:08:47 -0500
From: Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@u.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
...What would a group of Knighties be called? ---A Week?
...A group of Cousins --- A Reunion? (hey, it works with the famial
theme!)
Ocaoin@u....... "When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain and
you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed
very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the
open and has other people looking at it." The House at Pooh Corner
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:20:58 -0500
From: "Kathryn A. Kraus" <kak6@p.......>
Subject: FK fic
I received the forwarded copies of Ophelia5's stories.
Thanks so much!
virtual flowers & chocolate to you!
kak6@p.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:14:41 EST
From: MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......>
Subject: Re: Season Discoveries
Jamie (Isis) wrote:
>I saw Nick Knight after I'd been watching FK ... and I HATED it.
I have to agree with you, Jamie. I had no idea there was a movie
until I saw it last fall (on Lifetime?). I was astonished at the
differences. RS's Nick is quite different than Ger's. The LaCroix
guy was awful & the Janette--the UGLY Janette with her horridly
fake-sounding French, and no style.... <shudder> And no
Natalie either, just that guy. I couldn't stand it! At least
Schanke
was in it, but he was so much thinner--it was a strange sight to
behold, I tell you.
Still frightened by the memories, :)
Idalia Kakesako
<IdaliaK@p.......>
Wow, 2 posts from me in 1 day. I'm on a roll.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:59:10 PST
From: Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight versus Forever Knight
On Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:38:28 -0700 Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......> writes:
>> I finally saw Dark Knight parts 1 and 2 recently and IMHO, FK
>> is *much* better than the movie.
I also saw Lifetime's run of NICK NIGHT, thought it was crap but still saved the
recording. Could someone, though, tell me whether DK explained how the
movie's MALE coroner character magically changed into Natalie during the
series?! ;D
Also, not having discovered FK until after we moved to Johnson City in 1994, I
never saw or taped DARK KNIGHT 1 & 2. Is a commercially sold version available
somewhere, OR would anyone be game for a snail mail trade of some sort?????
glw
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:11:02 PST
From: Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: N/N Relationship
On Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:38:29 -0500 Sandra Gray
<TMP_HARKINS@d.......> writes:
>> But LC is almost 2000 years old so I can see a
>> possibility that he has more ability to hynotize people than other
>> younger vampires.
You BET Lacroix is a master at hypnosis, although, to me, his power is more
in terms of PSYCHOLOGICALLY controlling a person via his voice and his
radio program than actual eye-to-eye contact. Best example was last year's
finale during his heart-to-heart talk with Schanke about Nick's "problem."
ALL of that discussion involved persuasion through the tone of his voice, rather
than its content. And Lacroix was DAMN good at it, too!
(Of course it didn't hurt that Schanke, lovable he may be, really had fewer
brains
than even Natalie has shown this season. But I miss the character and wish he
was back to provide Nick's *terribly* needed foil!)
Now if Lacroix would just do something USEFUL with his powers of persuasion
through the radio, such as make both Rush and Stern into jackasses, the world
would TRULY be a better place! ;D
glw
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:41:19 -0500
From: Rich Anthony Mazzara <rmazzara@e.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 7 Mar 1996 to 8 Mar 1996 - Special issueODOD
WOW! GWD was just on in NYC :) he said fk is on hiatus? ? ? :)
too kewl!
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:53:27 -0800
From: Russell Kurtz <russtms@e.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Star Trek:TNG production
Janette Z wrote:
>
> In a message dated 96-03-07 19:05:53 EST, you write:
>
> >Janette - Deanna Troi would make a fetching Janette
>
> NO, NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE Deanna!!!!! What a frightening
> image. I can't think of any regulars who would make a good Janette.
>
Perhaps no *regulars* would make a good Janette, but what about Vash,
the girl Picard ends up in love with and rescues in Sherwood Forest
(sounds rather brick-like, doesn't it)?
Cousin Russ
_______________
"I hate flying."
--Nick Knight, "Black Buddha"
russtms@e.......
http://home.earthlink.net/~russtms/
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:53:22 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: BYE!!!
Howdy y'all
I just wanted to say Bye! for now. My Spring Break begins this weekend and
boy am I ready!
I'll be back in about 10 days so try not to start any flame wars while I'm
gone. :) (I want to get in on them!)
See y'all
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:03:58 -0800
From: Russell Kurtz <russtms@e.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Groupings
How about..."a nightcrawl of Cousins"?
Cousin Russ
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:19:57 -0500
From: Loose Cannon <LoosCanN@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
Marg Rothschild suggests:
>How about a coterie of Cousins?
A cabal of Cousins?
Leslie GrantSmith
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