FORKNI-L
Digest - 7 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Thu, 7 Mar 1996
There are 36 messages totalling 1010 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Holiday Postcards (fwd)
2. New Waves: Janette & requests
3. <No subject given>
4. Casting - Rosen & Guilden
5. Sci Fi Channel On-line (2)
6. get naked line
7. Shrewthering and Fleshy Question (4)
8. Fair Warning
9. One more question from Tippi
10. YKYB.....
11. FK on SFC
12. Syndicated ratings
13. Shortest /Longest Filk...
14. A strange thought/Titanic/EEOC? + Initial Thanks for the Play!
15. seasonal preferences (2)
16. to anyone willing to get me copies of Airwolf... and other works by actors
(2)
17. Getting naked
18. Best season?
19. Casting - Alice in Wonderland.
20. Ger in Airwolf (2)
21. USA chopping (3)
22. FK in Wonderland
23. Which season do you like best?
24. seasonal comparisons (2)
25. Fanfic Too Real!
26. shortest/longest filk
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:40:49 -0800
From: LG Soward <lgs@i.......>
Subject: Re: Holiday Postcards (fwd)
At 10:25 PM 3/6/96 -0500, Apache wrote:
> As a lawyer, my gut reaction to "legal considerations" is that
>it's a crock.
Probably what happened was that they were so embarrassed that the Friends of
Forever Knight, matched, and probably exceeded any amount that was to be
donated by Sony to PAF that they weren't going to admit it.
I mean, who could see them admitting that they donate $6000 to PAF because
of Ger's card when the FoFK exceeded that on the first handover? Hmmm??
Maybe, Lisa could weedle the information out of PAF? Probably not, but.......
Lana
lgs@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:56:30 +0000
From: "Laura Whaples P." <lpetix@d.......>
Subject: New Waves: Janette & requests
As of right now, I've put a new FK collection up on my waves
website. It will be there until March 16th. The new waves are
various 2nd-season requests that I've received from visitors to the
site, and a collection of Janette waves from the 2nd season.
The special request waves are as follows:
- Nick: "Come to me..." from "Hunted"
- Natalie: "Oh come on, you're almost 800 years old--what's an egg?"
- LaCroix: "What a fine decade this has turned out to be... war,
riot, assassination... the Age of Aquarius indeed."
- The FK vampire flight takeoff sound.
The others are eleven new Janette waves. They're
uncharacteristically clear for Janette waves (usually the music at
the Raven drowns everything out). I am featuring Janette this week
to express my horror at what TPTB did to her character in "The Human
Factor."
I hope everyone likes these. The next collection will be mostly
Nick & LaCroix waves from "The Fix," and should be very pleasing to
Dark Knighties. ;-)
Laura WP, lpetix@d.......
Ephemeral Noises: http://www.dpcc.com/dpcc/assoc/lpetix/waves/
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:55:30 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
At 10:46 PM 3/6/96 -0500, Lisa Wolters wrote:
>Which is why we need to write more syrupy letters to
>Kay & Co. asking that those reruns air on <gag> <retch>
>USA.
AND...we have to start calling/writing to our cable stations and *ask* that
the SciFi channel be added to their line-up!
Remember that the same holds true for your local cable company,while a phone
call is much easier,its the written word that seems to get the most attention.
Insert a letter of request in with your cable bill if you want,that way its
only one stamp or if you pass by your cable office,drop a letter off. Again,
be polite, but persistent in this quest.
Maybe USA is testing us,who knows! We've shown them that we are a force to
be contended with,maybe they want to see if we'll stick by our guns and
force the cable companies hand now. Yes,we are doing their bidding for
them,but so what! We want to see Forever Knight and we want more viewers! If
that means a few well meaning letters to my cable company, I'll do it! I
have already called them and now that I know that they aren't planning on it
in the near future, I'll start mailing!
This too is a cause that we can bring others in on. Many people would like
to have the SciFi channel offered to them,but they probably aren't aware of
how to go about it. They may be thinking that they just have to "wait and
see" what their cable company offers next. Lets make that decision for our
cable companies and start asking *now* for SF, so that we will have it come
Spring. Certainly USA has given us a head start on something for a change.
And bait or not,I'm willing to take the risk so that I can see FK on a
channel somewhere!
And if anyone is out there saying "Well, I have the tapes, I can just watch
them" Think again! FK being on the SF channel could bring over lots of new
viewers and a better shot at resurrecting FK back to prime time status or at
the very least get us some of those TV mini-movies that we'd like to see.
I may be a Cousin,but when it comes to SOS/FK, I'm a "Die-Hard" because I
refuse to give up the fight!
Annmarie
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:59:21 -0800
From: [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: Casting - Rosen & Guilden
Bons wrote:
> Which reminds me, has anyone thought to write a fan fic along the lines of
> "Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead" with Feltheimer and Koplovitz in the
> title roles? And Nickie as the Danish Prince of Angst?
AH! i wanna see that!! Ha HA! Somebody write it now!
You could make LC the Player, Nat's Ophie, Schank's Polonius, Cohen
Gertrude, Stonetree Claudius or switch everybody around, make Janette
Ophie, Gertrude, i don't care :)
i'd actually rather see Nick as Rosencrantz and LC as Guildenstern. You
know, make a Stoppard/Shakespeare buddy play. We don't get to see those
two being goofy together enough :)
[Name removed by request]
Each man kills the thing he loves - Gavin Friday
How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:02:58 -0500
From: Ann Scura <Vaqueras@a.......>
Subject: Sci Fi Channel On-line
Some encouraging news:
The Sci Fi Channel has set up a direct feed OVER the internet.
You must have a direct internet link (not AOL or Prodigy) for it to
work. You can try it for two minutes at the Sci Fi Channel's Web site,
"The Dominion:"
http://www.scifi.com (supposedly, connection's different on AOL)
It might be the answer that everyone without the Sci Fi Channel has
been looking for. Since I'm on AOL I wasn't able to try it myself.
Maybe some one could give it a try and then report back to the board.
Good Luck,
Ann Scura
*Vaquera*
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:05:47 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: get naked line
Katja Stokley asked:
>What "Let's get naked" line? Both times I saw Hearts of Darkness there
>was no dialogue until Vachon started talking to Urs - something like "If
>she's an amateur I'm a vegetarian".
At the very beginning, Lacroix is emceeing and says something like, we'll be
"showing our inner selves by getting naked!" My brain's fuzzy on this, as I
was too shell-shocked when I heard this line (for the first time last week!).
I know it's not "let's get naked". It's "getting naked". I think aliens
took over Uncle's body for the night and forced him to speak non-Lacroxian
dialogue...
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:17:02 -0800
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, John Soo-Hoo wrote:
> As for the question about CBS attempt to spice things up... CBS doesn't
> have anything to do with it. "Crimetime After Primetime" was a collection
> of detective shows, period. Along with it you got WiseGuy and Night Heat
True, CBS didn't have anything to do with that. It was TeleMunchen! At
first, the production co. were filming some scenes twice: once to North
American (i.e., CBS) standards, and again showing some nudity for the
German market. Did you know that Nick's first victim, in the German
version of the scene, was topless? The stripper in "Dance..." showed a
lot more flesh in the German version (this is all by report--I haven't
actually seen these). The cast didn't like it, and in fact the first time
they did this it came as a BIG surprise to Ger and Nigel (ask Nigel at a
con sometime about his feelings when he was asked to carry the
almost-naked victim in to Nick, or Ger's reaction when told to get out of
the way as he stood between the actress playing the stripper and the camera:
"But she doesn't have any clothes on!!"
They stopped doing this fairly soon, though. Not for reasons of taste,
but for reasons of finance--it cost too much to film scenes 2 ways!
Still, and perhaps I am myself showing 1st-season bias, this emphasis on
sex didn't feel as...tawdry I guess is the word, as it did with the
USA-produced shows this season. Notice they stopped after a few episodes
*this* season as well. I don't think it went over well at all, certainly
not with the "core" audience.
Regards,
Valery (here since year 0!)
kingv@u.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:25:09 -0500
From: Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: Fair Warning
Ruth Dempsey said:
>I have just purchased a used copy of a *wonderful* book
>called "The TV Theme Song Sing-Along Book, Vol.2".
>Expect more filks on FkFic-L.
::evil grin:: I haven't exhausted Vol. 1 yet.
Harper *** "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
Robin Carroll-Mann *** rcmann@d.......
Save "Forever Knight"! For details see the web page at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:24:38 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: One more question from Tippi
On Mar 07, 1996 00:21:52, 'Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>' wrote:
>Does anyone know if ascii files can be attached to fkfic postings? The
>reason I ask is because about half the people have been getting my posted
>stories either without quotes or with weird symbols.
NO ATTACHED FILES! They do screwy things with the listserv, and the
hamster doesn't like it.
Many WP programs (like Word For Windows, most definitely!) use weird
symbols that deviate from standard ascii text, like em-dashes and
'smart-quotes' and odd end-of-line marks... everything looks okay on the
screen when you're cutting and pasting, but when the post comes back from
the listserv, it's all gone strange. The way to avoid this is to save your
story in TEXT-ONLY format, then close the file, then reopen it (VERY
important!) and *then* cut and paste into your mailer. This should
eliminate the problem.
In the case of WFW, the "smart-quotes" can be particularly troublesome; you
need to disable them from the start. Actually, if anyone is working from
Word For Windows 6.0 and needs a hand w/formatting, e-mail me; I've pretty
much got it down (even though I do most of my writing in Notepad! Yes,
Notepad...)
Hope this helps.
Oh... the hamster? You know, the *hamster*. The one at PSUVM that runs in
its little wheel 24 hours a day and powers the listserv. And when the list
is running slow, it's because the hamster got tired. You know. That
hamster.
What, you didn't know that the entire Internet is powered by millions of
tiny rodents on exercise wheels?
You should look inside your computer sometime. Hey, they don't call it a
*mouse* for nothing.
--
-----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL>
----------Cinnamon Natpacker, Semi-Merc, A. of the CoS, S.I. of TG(tm)
---------------and Semicolon Master of the Universe!
Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:54:31 -0500
From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: YKYB.....
You know you've been watching too much FK and reading too much FORKNI-L when....
I'm listening to the radio and this woman requests the song, "Pooh Corner"
and she is (I kid you not)
JANETTE from oakland.
Everytime I shave my legs, and I see blood, I get excited and try to lick it
off. Okay, I admit it. I'm a sick puppy!
But, give me some credit, this is not intentional!
Shoot me now!
Cousin Mel
NatVampCamp
Founder of Valentines: http://ansel.mm.informed.net/~virtual/team1/val.html
"'Fraid so. Land mines can be so annoying"-LaCroix, from my story,
"Interview with the Nightcrawler"
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:28:02 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: FK on SFC
Personally, I think FK would probably have the capacity to attract
more viewers on USA than on SFC and I think we should be pushing
a mail campaign to get the reruns on USA. In our area, we just got
SFC the beginning of this year and I can tell you from our experience
that it wasn't easy. This is a big college town and our cable
provider, Warner Cable (part of Time Warner), had been getting requests
for SFC for a long time. We were told for a long time that Warner
didn't plan to carry SFC because of some conflict of some sort between
them, but I think (but don't know) that the new Telecommunications
bill caused them to reconsider possible questions of competition.
Anyway, we had been asking for SFC for more than a year around here
before we got it. After reading about some large viewing areas that
don't have SFC (they don't have it in Charlottesville, VA, which is
a bigger city than Harrisonburg), I can't help but wonder if Mr.
Mollin is right when he says FK wouldn't get good exposure on SFC.
I do enjoy watching shows on SFC and would watch FK if it wound up
there. But I think USA would probably have more potential viewers
and, as someone mentioned, FK would make a good "block" with
Highlander.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
I still think we should keep pressing for new episodes or movies too.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 04:28:40 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Syndicated ratings
I was reading the alt.tv.forever-knight newsgroup and came across
two posts about recent syndicated ratings for syndicated shows that
I thought people might be interested in.
For the week ending 2/11/96, FK was ranked 75th.
For the week ending 2/18/96, FK was ranked 59th.
That's quite a considerable improvement. I wonder if "getting the
word out" made a difference.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:00:15 -0800
From: "Toni C. Holm" <tch@w.......>
Subject: Shortest /Longest Filk...
Lynn Messing <messing@a.......> started it...
>
> One hundred bottles of blood in the fridge...
<snip 30 outrageous & funny replies..>
Oh am I glad I'm not stuck on a 60 hour bus ride with you guys.....
-Toni <thc@w.......>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 06:02:55 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: A strange thought/Titanic/EEOC? + Initial Thanks for the Play!
Howdy everyone! After a month of being, err, incommunicado, I finally found
some time to read messages, let alone reply to one. Amazing...
(Just to give you an idea of how far behind in reading I am - I have been
going through messages in date order - and finally came across _this_ reply
today. To give you a better idea : By January 17, when I was given a second
contract job on top of my first, I was already about two weeks behind...
needless to say, it didn't get any better. Now that the second contract has
ended, as of the end of February, I am only now "catching up", such as it is).
On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> wrote:
>On Feb 11, 1996 17:16:41, 'Will Steeves <goid@i.......>' wrote:
>>Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> writes:
>Violation of Quote Rule, Will.
I thought that you were "allowed" to quote four lines from each person (ie.,
in order to set up the context)? Or, is it four lines _period_? Conceivably,
the lines that say "xxxx (gggggg@yyyy.nn) writes" doesn't count with the
four...
>When I get to Toronto, I shall deny you your biscuit. <g>
Come to think of it, you _didn't_ give me any biscuits. Boo hoo. Even so, I
_did_ get a warm fuzzy from you, a necklace from Valerie, a personalised name
tag from Lana, autographs from Deb and zillions of my favourite fans, and fun
all around - all of which I am very grateful for. Even though I am almost
never around nowadays to say so, believe me - it was all very appreciated!
:-) (And I will eventually getting around to my "thanks you"s and
acknowledgements...one of these years - and hopefully _before_ Ger's play).
>>Cousin Will, Sovereign Commander-in-Chief, GSP.
>Actually, where I'm from, that makes you the Commander in Chief of the
>Garden State Parkway. Which I'm not sure is a designation anyone would
>particularly want.
Well, if it isn't four lines _per person_, then I'm in biscuits deficit land
again....
Hmmm, wouldn't being the Commissioner of the Garden State Patrol make me
a distant relative of Tracy? :-) (groan). Whoops, you said "ParkWAY".
Don't blame me, it's 6:00am ; I don't usually stay up this late, but the
downstairs tenant was nice enough to make enough noise at 3:00 to wake me up -
by 4:30, I gave up trying to get back to sleep...ugh.
Onwards to Ger's play! (hopefully, I'll actually get time to write, _before_
then, aaargh).
"Wicked" Cousin Will (couldn't resist using Cousin Tippi's self
characterisation :-) ) aka "Grandfather" aka WCW, formerly the World Wildlife
Federation... (groan)
W.
P.S. : In case you're saying "What the heck did he mean by WCW formerly World
Wildlife Federation"? Well, groaner as it is, it's a double reference to
"Fallen Idols" and the fact that the World Wrestling Federation changed its
name to the WCW... ugh.
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont. "GOiDS Rule"
1995-96 Managing Editor, The New Edition (U of T); Nu '97, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE ; Toronto Liaison Officer, M.E.R.G.E.
Proud Member of the National Coalition of Free Men (NCFM)
"Any sufficiently advanced intuition is indistinguishable from telepathy."
- Steeves' Law
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:14:00 -0500
From: Catherine A Siemann <cas47@c.......>
Subject: seasonal preferences
Just another $.02 in this interesting thread:
I'd have to go with season 2, with season 1 a close second. The
character dynamics in season 2 were the most interesting, imo. Having
LaCroix back in the present, while Janette was still in town, Nick had
two very different relationships with other vampires -- he can always
dismiss LaCroix as evil (Nick does have this tendency to oversimplify),
but he can't do that with Janette, not when he's always depending on her
for advice and information (and other things ;) ) . . . . And there are more
different triangulated relationships: the Nick-Nat-LaCroix pull that we have
now was present in second season, plus the Nick-Nat-Janette love
triangle, and since Nick and Schanke had established their friendship
during the course of the previous season, there seemed to be more of a
pull in that direction, too, than there is with Tracy in season three.
First season is a very close second -- and certainly it's on top for
production values and some excellent storylines -- but LaCroix's absence
from the present-day scenes leaves a big void, and Schanke is seen as
one-dimensionally comic a little too often.
I miss Schanke a lot, but if Tracy had been handled better, I think she
could have been an interesting addition to the mix. When she's not acting
in an excessively naive manner, she has serious possibilities as a character --
as evidenced by her behavior in *Human Factor* and *Avenging Angel*.
It's a shame they let her know about vampires -- it really seems to have
hampered what they can do with her. (Imagine trying to do "Close Call"
with Tracy instead of Don -- when *doesn't* Nick cover his tracks around
her?) The second half of third season is
producing some extraordinary FK, but they don't always seem to know what
to do with the new characters -- Vachon had such a buildup, just to
practically disappear.
And of course, the number one reason why I prefer first and second
season: vampirism doesn't seem to be Y-chromosome linked. Urs is around
so little in third season, and other than her few appearances, new viewers
must wonder if there are any female vampires out there . . Okay, I
*wouldn't* have wanted to see Janette replaced with another major female vamp,
but the mix of characters is sorely lacking without her . . .
But you knew I was going to say that, didn't you?
Catherine
Raven/Immortal Beloved
cas47@c.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:24:09 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: seasonal preferences
Now, I've only seen two episodes of the first season, so maybe I'm missing
out on a bunch of great stuff. I just have to say, in defense of the 3rd
season: Least we don't see Nick flying around Toronro like a bat outta hell
anymore!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:54:38 -0500
From: Jack De Winter <jackdw@m.......>
Subject: to anyone willing to get me copies of Airwolf... and other works by
actors
especially the ones with Ger in them, but interested in all of them. Would
someone be able to get in touch with me? I was able to see the original ones
when they aired, but not the ones with Ger in them... except one.
Also, do we have complete lists of what the FK Alumnus have done in the television
and movie fields? I would be interested to see any contrasts between their FK
performances and others.
regards,
cousin jack
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Jack De Winter 'why isn't phoenetic spelt the way it sounds?'
Software Metrics, inc. 'why do they have interstate highways in Hawaii?'
jackdw@m....... 'why is there only one Monopolies Commission?'
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:22:30 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Getting naked
I happened to see HoD for the first time at a con where Lora Haines,
President of the Official FK fan club and friend of Nigel's, was present.
She told me he sounded angry, and on playing back the tape, I had to
agree.
Nigel himself appears not to have been happy with LaCroix Lite and this
must have been the Last Straw.
I couldn't save this one even by postulating a prolonged drunk on Janette's
private reserve, which was my excuse for the rest of the first half of
the season.
My main problem with this episode, aside from too much Tracy at her
most wide-eyed innocent (no disrespect meant to Lisa Ryder, who was
doing the best she could with bad material), was that I just didn't
care about the multi-personalitied amateur stripper and I certainly
didn't care who killed the sleazeball she picked up. Then there was
the fact that it takes a lot more serious abuse that simple abandonment
to produce that kind of disorder, so I didn't believe the premise.
Oh, plus Urs always bored me, so I really didn't care about her backstory.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:25:27 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Best season?
Margie wrote:
"One of the interesting things about this season, is that Nick seems to have
some ambivalence about whether he really wants to be
mortal again. I first got that sense in "Night in Question", and noticed it even
more in several later episodes."
This is true, but I equate it with the fact that he obviously went to LaCroix
for some advice and gap filling. You don't think LaCroix would remind him of
how long he has been trying to be mortal again do you? I'm sure Nat would
remind him again, but Nick does have that pull to LaCroix, and the set back from
Sons of Belial doesn't help either. Also, maybe he's just getting tired of
smacking his head against a "brick" wall. (sorry). Also, can you imagine
realizing that there are thousands of souls out there waiting to get their
chance at you (Dark of Night). Maybe he's having second thoughts of being
mortal and finally really dying and having to deal with these really pissed off
souls (grin).
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:25:24 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
Katja mentioned that when she watched HoD it starts with Vachon's line and not
LaCroix's. Really? No, when it first comes on "LaCroix introduces
what's-her-name (I don't remember her name or exactly what he says-not my
favorite ep) and says "Let's get naked" at the end. I remember sitting there
with my mouth hanging open because I just couldn't see my LaCroix (meaning the
one I'm so used to) doing something like that. I could see him hiring someone
to go out there and play MC, but not him. From that point on I had a bad taste
in my mouth about that episode - although I did like Vachon/Nick "Nothing else
happens to her" and a little more info on Vachon.
I haven't watched it lately on USA - are they already chopping things out of the
eps?
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:25:33 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Alice in Wonderland.
Bonnela wrote:
"And as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum....
Feltheimer and Koplovitz"
Oh, boy, I almost fell out of my chair laughing at that one. Good job,
excellent! (tears are rolling)!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:17:58 -0500
From: Maria Vrzoc <vrzoc@s.......>
Subject: Re: Ger in Airwolf
If you are looking for a meaty episode ... sorry no title ... Ger's
character goes undercover at some sort of camp???. He hikes into town
(nearest bar) and his wife Alana plays a local waitress who thinks he's
kind of cute. I don't believe she has a speaking role and it's been a long
time so details are sketchy.
M. Vrzoc (vrzoc@u.......) | Just a little off the top!
| -- A. Boleyn
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:55:17 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: to anyone willing to get me copies of Airwolf... and other works
by actors
I'm also desperately seeking someone willing to trade GWD Airwolf episode &
misc. I don't have any AW myself to trade though. Anyone interesting in
trading or 'other' (personal slave an option), can reach me at:
flowper@o.......
Kim
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:53:17 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: USA chopping
Well, if they've cut LaCroix's totally out of character speech at the
begining of HoD, USA finally showed a scintilla of taste!
I wonder if it's an accident that this was the part of LaCroix Lite
that was absolutely unacceptable? We all know the saying that an
infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters would
eventually come up with Hamlet.
Perhaps if the monkey-brains (I apologize to any offended monkeys
out there <g>) at USA cut long enough, they will actual make the one
cut that's an improvement.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:59:17 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: USA chopping
They didn't cut LaCroix's opening out of HoD on USA's recent
airing. Sorry to disappoint, if disappoint this does.
Kim
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:13:30 +0100
From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK in Wonderland
Guess who gets my vote for Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dee! Could it be . . .
Tracy and Vachon?
Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:18:37 -0500
From: Felicia O'Sullivan <f.osullivan@g.......>
Subject: Which season do you like best?
Which season do I like best? To be entirely honest, I like
all three but for very different reasons. I tend to prefer
Season 2 & Season 3 episodes, though.
First season had -wonderful- character interactions (particularly
Nick/Nat), a lighter tone, and usually very good flashback
sequences. The down side was that the present-day "A"
plotlines were generally dreadful. Pulling an episode at random
(well, scanning titles until I find one where I can remember most
of it!): "For I Have Sinned" has some completely adorable
sequences (Nick taking Schanke's confession, complete with
"Father O'Neill" Irish brogue; Schanke almost becoming Alma's
dinner; etc.) but the "'vengeance of God' murders" plotline had
holes you could drive a FLEET of Caddies through, not to
mention one of the _dumbest_ red herrings ever seen on TV.
(Oh, yeah, the priest is going to -warn- the next victim -- while
wearing a ski mask and brandishing a gun. Uh-huh.)
I'm NOT saying there were no good present-day plots -- "Cherry
Blossoms," "Dance by the Light of the Moon," "Dying to Know You,"
"False Witness," and others had pretty good A stories.
Other first season pros: Great wardrobe, especially Nick's way-
cool black leather trenchcoat-but-almost-a-cape and Janette's
dresses; more humor scattered throughout the episodes.
First season cons: Special effects so bad you winced while
watching; the dead-bimbos-in-lingerie teasers (no, USA did
-not- invent this lovely FK tradition); Stonetree (my least favorite
character in FK's entire run...).
Second season brought generally better "A" level plots, but the
flashbacks weren't always as much fun; the Nick-Natalie
relationship got pushed into the background somewhat (with
the major exception of BMV); and an edgier, tenser Nick with
more "grey." (That last is a good thing, IMHO <g>.) Not that
all the episodes were great. "Capital Offense" was second-
season, wasn't it? And "Baby, Baby." But it's the season that
had "AMPH," "BMV," and "Hunters," too. And the best clip
show I've ever seen, "Close Call."
For me, the third season has been a matter of extremes -- either
really good or -really- bad episodes, and relatively few "just okay"
eps. The good: BB, "Over the Line" (yes, I really liked that
episode!), TG, NIQ, "Fever," "Sons of Belial," DON. The bad:
HOD, "Strings," "Blackwing" (yes, I really disliked that episode <g>),
"Fallen Idol."
When did I start watching -- well, I saw the first, failed pilot
("Nick Knight") with Rick Springfield. And hated it. (My sister
and I had a great time tearing it apart while watching...)
I've been watching "Forever Knight" since the first episode
-- prompted purely by curiousity since I'd never heard of
resurrecting a failed pilot with a new cast. And got immediately
hooked on the second incarnation.
(Which puts at least one more bit of anecdotal evidence
against the idea that you tend to like best the season you
saw first... <g>)
Felicia O'Sullivan
f.osullivan@g.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:24:34 -0500
From: Rebecca Burns <r.burns@g.......>
Subject: Re: Ger in Airwolf
On Thu 7-Mar-1996 10:01a, Maria Vrzoc wrote:
MV> If you are looking for a meaty episode ... sorry no title ... Ger's
MV> character goes undercover at some sort of camp???. He hikes into town
MV> (nearest bar) and his wife Alana plays a local waitress who thinks he's
MV> kind of cute. I don't believe she has a speaking role and it's been a long
MV> time so details are sketchy.
My apologies for overquoting, but I'm finally stumped..I haven't seen
this one yet. I can't wait for this one. Thanks Maria!
Becky
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 07:07:20 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
Katya wrote:
:What "Let's get naked" line? Both times I saw Hearts of Darkness there
:was no dialogue until Vachon started talking to Urs - something like "If
:she's an amateur I'm a vegetarian".
I remember the line from the first time I saw it. It was gone in reruns.
(Smart idea, that.)
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 07:47:42 -0800
From: choff@v.......
Subject: Re: USA chopping
Kim wrote:
> They didn't cut LaCroix's opening out of HoD on USA's recent
> airing. Sorry to disappoint, if disappoint this does.
And they didn't cut it out of the syndicated version either, at least not
over on this coast.
Drats. I mean I managed to MISS that travesty when I saw the ep at
eclecticon last fall.
EEOUW
Cynthia, who has nothing nice to say about that episode except TEETH!
Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:09:02 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> Katja mentioned that when she watched HoD it starts with Vachon's line and not
> LaCroix's. Really?
> I haven't watched it lately on USA - are they already chopping things out of the
> eps?
I watch it in syndication, on Channel 50 in Washington DC. They seem to
be stripping a couple of seconds off the beginning and end of acts pretty
frequently. I call every once and a while and let them know I've noticed.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:13:21 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@o.......>
Subject: Re: seasonal comparisons
Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......> wrote:
> (whose theory? Susan's, maybe?)
Db> Marina Bailey says that was her theory. I thought it was MY theory. I
Db> posted a long discussion of it a couple of weeks ago.
So did I. We all posted that stuff around the same time. I actually asked it
as a question, something like, does anyone else think that a person's
perception of the show is coloured by the season they saw first. But
obviously that didn't just come out of the blue. Maybe we should say OUR
theory.
Db> Other people have
Db> mentioned the idea in passing. Any archivist here want to settle which
Db> one of us gets the prize?
The Prize? You mean there can be only one?? Oops, wait, wrong mailing list.
On this one there doesn't need to be only one, isn't it great! :)
I'm really enjoying this discussion of the various seasons. I recently got
to see some second season episodes I'd never seen, and all I can say is -
wow. "The Fix" - brilliant. Nick looked so cute all red and sunburnt. :) "Be
My Valentine" - I nearly had to be hosed down after watching the scene at
the restaurant. There really were some brilliant episodes second season.
- Marina.
\\ "And tell me if you want to catch that feeling of redemption; //
// That feeling of redemption don't do much for me." - Tanita Tikaram \\
\\========Marina Bailey========tmar@f.......========Knightie======== //
... You gotta love this place, every day's like Halloween.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:47:50 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Fanfic Too Real!
TIPPI! <gasp>
*What did you tell Nick and LaCroix to do*? <G>
>From March 6th's afternoon edition of my local newspaper, I quote:
"Charles S. Bivins Jr., 48. vice president and general manager of WSTM-TV
(Channel 3 in Syracuse), *died Tuesday night after suffering a heart attack*
(italics mine)."
Eeep!!!
The article inside accompanying the obituary also added that he had started
exercising regularly two years ago and had lost a great bit of weight by
cutting back on his food intake.
Guys, *I sent this man Ghirardelli chocolate*. <buries head in hands> Well,
I didn't think he'd like flowers!
<observes guilty moment of silence>
In lack of anyone interim, switch all SOSFK correspondence to WSTM-3 to the
following:
Mr. James Kizer
Vice-President and Chief Operating Officer
Federal Broadcasting/WSTM-TV 3
[Address removed]
(etc., etc.)
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*Optimist
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:36:30 -0500
From: "[M A Martin]" <mmartin@b.......>
Subject: Re: Sci Fi Channel On-line
I checked out the SciFi Channel website. To look at 2 minutes of
programming, you need either a Mac or a PC (no Unix boxes, which is pretty
annoying since they are probably the only computers with enough processing
power to display a good image) with a high-speed connection (like a SLIP
or T1) and the appropriate software. The Macs in the Computer Resource Lab
don't have one of the needed bits of software, CU-SeeMe (not surprising as
it is something of a newcomer). After you install the software, you have
to correctly configure Netscape to be able to interact with CU-SeeMe.
Needless to say, I'm not interested in doing this for a mere 2 minutes of
video, especially when the video is most likely going to be poor quality.
This will not be an option for those of us without access to the SciFi
Channel to watch FK, unless we only want to see 2 minutes of it!
Meg (mmartin@b.......)
A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg. Samuel Butler (1877)
as found in _There Goes Archimedes_ by S Harris and SN Arseculerane p.63
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:01:08 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk
*Really fun fiil snipped*
You people need some help!!! I was ROTFLMAO! Of course, now I'm thinking
of something to add to '100 Bottles of Blood in the Fridge'
Curse all of you! :)
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:59:48 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: Re: seasonal comparisons
Television tends to be uneven anyway. It's
just the nature of the beast. When you get
to the end, you can't go back and rewrite
what you did at the beginning, because it's
already been shown. The original Star Trek
is a show for the ages, and it is also uneven.
Don't fear, Forever Knight *is* a great body
of work.
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