FORKNI-L
Digest - 2 Mar 1996 to 3 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Sun, 3 Mar 1996
There are 45 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. (Fwd) Casting
2. Movie Casting (2)
3. JADFE and Fkfic?
4. FK movie casting (2)
5. FK: The Movie, dreamcast
6. FK The Move
7. Geminis (2)
8. Top eight episodes (2)
9. Tattoos in Toronto
10. The Raven goes country??
11. I am ***sooooo*** sorry <snif>
12. Response from Sony (7)
13. Casting the FK movie
14. some good news -- result from letter?
15. FK in North Carolina
16. Several
17. FK Soundtrack CD (2)
18. Nick - Human Blood
19. FK the movie..with Star Wars cast
20. Has a Due South/FK crossover been done?
21. pen names and FKFIC?
22. Fic & 'Hearts of Darkness'
23. Argh! Tippi's Angel story
24. Did you borrow my tape? (Washington, DC)
25. SciFi Channel and FK
26. Rebec/cello Forwarded mail....
27. Nigel won! Hot diggity! (2)
28. Fic & Movie Cast (2)
29. <No subject given>
30. Geminis - Nigel
31. Fred Allen card/response to Sony
32. Rebec or Cello?
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:22:26 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: (Fwd) Casting
Forwarded from someone wishing to remain anonymous:
Nick -- the young Alec Guinness <sigh>; Daniel Day Lewis
Natalie -- the young Wendy Hiller; Emma Thompson
Janette -- the young Anouk Aimee <another sigh>; Juliette Binoche (not
really strong enough; don't know the current crop of French actresses)
LC -- Harris Yulin (who's not as known, but is *fine*); Anthony Hopkins
Schanke -- can't think of the right person
Captain -- Grahame Greene (Stonetree model)
The idea here was to take the top of each of the series' actors' line:
whose roles they would take if these people weren't at those particular
tops. Lewis may not have enough humor: he does have everything else.
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:43:07 -0700
From: Gay Eckes <raven@r.......>
Subject: Re: Movie Casting
At 12:24 PM 3/2/96 -0600, Diane Echelbarger wrote:
>If you're gonna do an action cast, we *must* cast Harrison Ford as
>Nick! He can angst just fine. And those eyes! Has a nice bod, too, and
>doesn't mind showing it! }:>
Harrison Ford, definitely!
And a (lone) vote for Helen Mirren as Natalie.
Later,
Gay Eckes raven@r....... gdeckes@i....... gdeckes@c.......
>> Life's too short . . .<<
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:53:30 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Movie Casting
>(Can you tell I *loved* the Indiana Jones movies? <g> Now where'd I put that
>"Indy Meets Nick Gerard" plot I was gonna write.....)
Oooh, I'd love to see that. Same university, same job, almost the same
time period ... Perfect!
---- TJ
Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe
http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:04:32 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: JADFE and Fkfic?
Hey all,
Got another question. What's the word on posting stories to both JADFE and
FKFIC (under the adult header of course). Is it considered spamming? I just
posted a very short (and I think funny) story to JADFE and wanted to put it
up on FKFIC too. Thanks!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
TippiNB@a.......
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:08:14 EST
From: CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......>
Subject: FK movie casting
Hi Guys,
Alright,alright....I'll jump into this one....:-)
Nick: Can't picture anyone but Ger in this role but if I had to choose I'd
pick Scott Bakula(sp?) or I agree with Dianne's choice of Harrison Ford.
Natalie: Emma Thompson
Schanke: Peter Deluise
Janette: ??????
Vachon: Sorry,I can't picture anyone else but Ben in this role.<Hey,I am a
Vaquera.(G)>
Tracy: Meg Ryan
Urs: Drew Barrymore
Screed: I agree with whoever suggested Christan Slater.:-)
Reese: Denzel Washington
Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
Knightie,Nick&Natpacker,Optimist's Club
Vaquera
"You're the only supernatural friend I have."Tracy to Vachon
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:10:53 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK: The Movie, dreamcast
I did post my thoughts before I started reading the "silly" cast lists.
Hummm... PeeWee Herman as LC. Just a thought.
Barbara
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:38:29 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK The Move
Cynthia wrote...in answer to my thoughts on Madonna :
"> Janette - Madonna or Sharon Stone
>> Whadday think? Totally offbase??"
Uh, Dotti, don't ever come over to my house, okay?
Sorry, Cynthia - I must have had a really bad brain freeze!!
Dotti RI
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:01:11 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Geminis
Hi
Someone posted that tonight (sat 2nd) the awards that NB & DD are up for
will be presented. How soon will we know the results?
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:58:38 -0500
From: Roxanna Reeves <GreyBrothr@a.......>
Subject: Re: Top eight episodes
Didn't he also have a nip or two at The Raven in "SoB?"
GreyBrothr
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:00:09 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Tattoos in Toronto
Ok, spurred by Jamie's FK tattoo from the weekend of Deb's play, my
sister and I were talking about getting one (we each have one already)
when we go up for "Taming"...Kira wanted me to ask if there was anybody
*else* who would be interested in getting one while we are there, sort of
a group excersion type thing.
Jamie said hers was about $80 Canadian/$60 US.
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
Who's trying to figure out *where* to put a tattoo....
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:22:14 +0000
From: Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: The Raven goes country??
LOL on the idea of vampires line dancing to "Achy Stakey Heart"..or
however they put it. I suppose we could get Dolly Parton to play
Jeanette (wait; let me *duck* before you pitch those bottles of
Ribena. Thank you!)
Seriously (NOT!) I think we've found Nick's new career, as it looks
like it may be time for him to move on again....COUNTRY WESTERN
SINGER. He certainly has enough angst to suit the music.
And perhaps here's another song challenge...writing vampire country
and western songs?
Of course...if Nick would rather go more new-wave, I'm reminded of a
favorite old Sparks' song...."Angst in my Pants."
Sandy Martino martino@m.......
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:08:45 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Top eight episodes
On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Roxanna Reeves wrote:
> Didn't he also have a nip or two at The Raven in "SoB?"
I don't think so...he started to, but LC interrupted. If they had been
left alone, he would have, but as it was, I don't think so.
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:52:20 -0500
From: Cuzin Lu <cuzinlu@s.......>
Subject: I am ***sooooo*** sorry <snif>
Oh guys..... I am *******soooooooo******* very sorry that I did that to you
all. :( I had no idea that it would be in there. Having just recently
switched from AOL to SNET, I thought it would be a download file like it was
on AOL. I figured that those who wanted it could download it and those who
didn't could just blow it off.
I am *****so***** embarrased <cousin being redfaced> :(
*Bad* LuDia.... No Biscotti... <snif, snif> :(
I *most* humbly apologize to everyone that had to see that 'thing' I posted. :(
You can ban me if you feel it necessary.... Go ahead... I shoulda read the
book before I tried that. That's what happens when you 'ass'ume things.... :(
I *did* however, put the picture in my AOL ftp site....
ftp.users.aol.com/LuDia
the file is named 'License.jpg'
Again... I *really* *really* am *very* *very* sorry..... :(
:(sorry:(sorry:(sorry:(sorry:(sorry.........
Cousin LuDia - The Multi Studded One
Cousin@Heart - Immortal Beloved
Vamp@Nyte - Valentine
cuzinlu@s....... |LuDia@a.......
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:14:42 -0500
From: Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: Response from Sony
I finally got a reply from one of the two letters I sent to
Feltheimer. It says:
_____________________________________________________________________
Thank you for your letter.
It is the passion of fans such as yourself that has fueled Forever
Knight the past several seasons. We're extremely proud that this
series' distinct creative voice attracted such a deeply loyal
audience.
It was our hope and vision that Forever Knight's core audience would
eventually expand into one of mass market appeal; however, this did
not happen. Subsequently, the economic realities in our business
often force us to make difficult decisions about very good television
programs. This is one of those cases.
While original programming may not be available beyond this season,
Forever Knight will live on. We hope you will tune in for some
original episodes as well as telecasts of encore episodes on The
Sci-Fi Channel, beginning this Spring.
Thank you again for your continued support.
Sincerely,
Justin Pierce
Sr. VP Media Relations, Sony Television Entertainment
_____________________________________________________________________
Okay -- can anyone figure out what "original episodes" refers to in
the final paragraph? The hinted-at tv movies? Third season reruns?
And has anyone else heard anything about the Sci-Fi Channel? I know
they're related to USA, but this is the first inkling I've had that
they were getting involved in any way.
Harper *** "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
Robin Carroll-Mann *** rcmann@d.......
Save "Forever Knight"! For details see the web page at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:38:53 -0500
From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: Re: Casting the FK movie
Lillian wrote:
>Janette - That woman from Big, what's her name? Shoot, the love interest
Its Elizabeth Perkins.
Cousin Mel
NatVampCamp
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Page-http://ansel.mm.informed.net/~virtual/team1/val.html
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:45:35 CST
From: "OREL, SARA" <FA55@n.......>
Subject: some good news -- result from letter?
I thought you folks might want some cheerful news. I got a form letter
a couple of weeks ago from my Fox-affiliate that shows FK, and it said
something like "thanks for watching and we'll pass on your scheduling
comments to our programming staff" (I had said the normal it is on too
late kind of thing). Well this week the tv guide says that FK is on not
Friday at 12:30 a.m., after an infomercial but at 11 p.m. Saturday after
Mad-TV. I would love to think this is in response to my letter, but
that somehow doesn't seem likely, but I will write a thank you note to
programming anyway, just to let them know that I noticed.
It is KYOU Fox-15 in Ottumwa, Iowa.
Sara E. Orel
FA55%nemomus@a.......
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:59:08 -0500
From: Wendy Gleason <wgleason@m.......>
Subject: FK in North Carolina
Hi,
I am posting this message for believe it or not, my cousin, who lives in
North Carolina. She does not have access to e-mail. Anyway, the point
of this missive is, I am trying to bring her across, but she does not
know if FK in on in her area or not. She lives in a small town near Raleigh.
So, does anyone know about channel and time information in that area?
Thanks,
Wendy
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:32:19 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: FK movie casting
Cindy writes:
> Nick: Can't picture anyone but Ger in this role but if I had to choose I'd
> pick Scott Bakula(sp?) or I agree with Dianne's choice of Harrison Ford.
Well, he wan't _my_ choice, he was DiaNe's...
...but who am I to argue with more Harrison Ford??? <g>
Dianne
(the 2-N Merc ;-)
The Once-Again-Mad Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
***"We ARE War 6!" -- The Magnificent Seven :-)***
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:23:48 -0500
From: Lizbet Ann <Lizbetann@a.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
<<<We hope you will tune in for some original episodes as well as telecasts
of encore episodes on The Sci-Fi Channel, beginning this Spring.>>>
Fudge! Blast it! Darn it all! To heck with them! (I need stronger
language!) Someone told me that they were killing the show to be able to
show it as cheap reruns on the SciFi channel (owned and operated by USA) and
this just about proves it! Flipping heck! How could they? We want *new*
episodes, not "encore showings" (read: reruns) on SciFi!
Steaming mad Merc,
Elizabeth
Lizbetann@a.......
elewis@u.......
:::the sig is at school:::
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:27:11 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Several
In a message dated 96-03-01 11:37:58 EST, you write:
>Au contraire, mes amis. I think she very definitely was angry with him.
>She snarled at him when he showed up, and although she didn't get too out
>of line, my impression was that she was holding herself tightly in
>control to prevent it.
After you wrote that, I re-watched Close Call, and changed my mind. I
agree, now. She was pretty angry at him. It has just been a long time since
I watched it. I yield!!!
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved ^v^
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:41:26 -0500
From: Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Soundtrack CD
Definitely, the FK soundtrack will be available on CD and cassette!
I just proofed the cassette artwork last week.
counting the days til it's available...
long live the knight
Fred Mollin
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:34:25 -0800
From: "B. Janine Morison" <morison@a.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
Do you think the Sci Fi channel will show US or Canadian versions?
Since it's cable they might be willing. Oh well, one can dream.
Janine
knightie and cousin
morison@a.......
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:35:40 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Soundtrack CD
Mr. Mollin,
Is this your first cd release? If not, please share those titles with
us--don't be shy--we aren't.
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:14:51 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
On Mar 02, 1996 23:14:42, 'Harper <RCMANN@d.......>' quoted her response
from Sony:
>It was our hope and vision that Forever Knight's core audience would
>eventually expand into one of mass market appeal; however, this did
>not happen. Subsequently, the economic realities in our business
>often force us to make difficult decisions about very good television
>rograms.
This is the most ridiculous piece of (expletive deleted) that I've ever
heard.
Because if there's one thing we know for sure, it's that the cancellation
of FK had NOTHING to do with economic realities. If that were the case,
either a) TriStar would have honored their word to wait for AND PAY
ATTENTION to the February numbers before cancelling FK, or b) TriStar would
have sold FK for a tidy sum of money to the highest bidder.
This is not about economics. This is about something much dirtier than
economics. They know that perfectly well, and SO DO WE, and all the
politely-phrased form letters in the world ain't gonna change the facts.
That's a very nice letter you received. And it's a very nice story. It's
what they want us to believe. But IT'S NOT TRUE.
Welcome to the entertainment industry. Please check your ethics at the
door...
--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
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http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Cyberdeities. Sheesh." -- [Name removed by request]
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:33:52 -0500
From: Ann Scura <Hatherall@a.......>
Subject: Nick - Human Blood
When tallying episodes where Nick drinks human blood, don't forget "Fever."
When he goes to the Raven to tell Lacroix about the virus, he shares his
drink. Somehow I just don't see Lacroix drinking cow.
Ann Scura
*Vaquera*
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:34:59 +0000
From: Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: FK the movie..with Star Wars cast
The idea of using Harrison Ford in FK the movie got me thinking...the
Luke/Darth Vader relationship in Star Wars has some similarities to
Nick and LaCroix's. .... (Remember, luke and Darth appeared to be
patching things up toward the end..sort of like our two vamps.)
So...
NICK: Luke Skywalker
LaCroix: Darth Vader
Vachon: Han Solo (in a nasty wig??)
Nat: Princess Leia (changes the Nick/Nat relationship...but Nick
really needs "tough love" sometimes, and Leia sure can dish it out.)
Either that, or it's Yoda as Nat, for similar reasons...but what a
horrible picture that brings to mind!)
Screed: Jabba the Hut (imagine him, lurking in the sewer...ewwww.)
Well, the main Star Wars cast is a little small to match FK,
part-for-part...I'm drawing a blank for Tracy, Schanke, Reese and
Jeanette (though Leia might be an interesting Jeanette...a bit too
tough, maybe...probably scare off the Raven's customers...Ooh...I
just got an image of the Raven redone as the Star Wars Cantina...with
those weard aliens as the house band....
Bad Sandy. I *never* should have bought that three tape Star Wars
set at Costco. ;[
Sandy Martino martino@m.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:39:26 +0000
From: Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: Has a Due South/FK crossover been done?
As I haven't read much FK fan fic yet, can someone e-mail me if a Due
South/FK crossover has been done? I just started watching DS...cute
show....I prefer FK--but I'd love to see the crossover story, if it's been
written. (For some reason, I can't get the idea of a "Forever
Mountie" out of my head...must be past my bed time!)
Sandy Martino martino@m.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 07:57:38 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: pen names and FKFIC?
Yes, it's me again, the intrepid question-asker. I'd like to hear from
people on their opinions as to using pen names for fkfic. The *reason* I ask
this is because when I started writing fkfic (or, shall I say, was cursed to
write fkfic while forsaking all my money-making ventures) I really had no
intention of writing humorous pieces. But now I have a split personality --
both of them wicked, of course -- one with a sense of humor and the other
just flat-out morose and kinky. Do people use pen names? Should I be Bubba
le Boo *and* Tippi? ;)
Thanks muchly,
The Wicked One
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:05:37 -0500
From: Shannon Thompson <celtic@j.......>
Subject: Fic & 'Hearts of Darkness'
Hiya!
First off, I'm on nomail, so if you want to discuss what's about to come,
you have to e-mail me OFFLIST.
Next, the fiction lately has been *GREAT*. I'm dying here....you all know
who you are <pointing here, there, there.....> All of you are just about to
*kill* me in anticipation....I check my box constantly looking for the next
segments. And the short ones are just as bad! I'm trying to be *really*
good and drop notes and virtual goodies, but Real Life [tm] doesn't always
allow me to manage it. So, take this has claps, cheers, whistles and
goodies. :) :) Anyone not on the Fic list needs to sign up IMMEDIATELY.
Quick question about the fic list....how do I make sure I'm getting
everything including things with an ADULT header? I know how to find out
what I'm set for, but I don't know if I'm set to get everything or not.
<shrug> sorry for the ignorance :)
Anybody else get HoD last night? I was watching it *again* and caught
something new. At the beginning, just as Ellen leaves the Raven, it sounds
like she tells Urs that she's hungry? Was I imagining things, reading more
into this than I should have or did the writers give it all away at the
beginning? Once again, any comments need to come to me OFFLIST!!
Shannon
______________________________________________________________________
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"Show time on my mind/And wringing somebody's throat"
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"You live you learn/You love you learn/You cry you learn/
You lose you learn/You bleed you learn/You scream you learn
You grieve you learn/You choke you learn/You laugh you learn/
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 08:01:33 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Argh! Tippi's Angel story
Sorry to use the bandwidth here, but someone had written and wanted a copy of
my upcoming Lacroix/Angel story (non-slash version) and I deleted their
letter. Please contact me! Looks like Cousins *do* on rare occasions make
mistakes. ;)
WCT
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 08:12:32 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Did you borrow my tape? (Washington, DC)
Sorry about this, everybody.
I lent a tape with third season episodes on it to somebody in the
Maryland suburbs of DC. I've lost your email, forgotten your name, all
the usual excuses. Please contact me.
Thanks,
Katja
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 08:17:16 PST
From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
I bought this really great card that is blank inside, but on the front it has
a quote by Fred Allen: "The minds that control television are so small that
you could put them in a gnat's navel with room left over for two caraway
seeds and an agent's heart." I really wanted to send this to Jon Feltheimer
(actually I have *3* of these cards, and bought them with the intention of
also sending one to Rod Perth and KK). Someone thought it was a little harsh
and so I've been hesitant...
What do you think? I mean, these guys have been pretty harsh themselves...
besides, if its par for the course, they probably won't even open them. On
the other hand, if they do, I don't think it will effect them in any way;
they've let everything else wash off their hides without a blink. At least
it would make *me* feel better...
SLG
**Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. us011164@p....... --
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had
such friends" in Forever Knight. SAVE FK! Write for info re SOS webpage**
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:01:12 EST
From: MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: SciFi Channel and FK
It's all very well if the SciFi Channel is going to be running FK, but
I very much doubt that the first season episodes they show will be the
Canadian versions.
Apparently when they show "Starman" the episodes are "butchered", and
scenes are cut or shortened with no regard to their relevance to the
story line. Commercial breaks are also apparently put in at times
different from the original showings. We don't get the SciFi Channel
up here, but that's what I've heard from fans in the U.S.
A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!) Via Internet: gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
*** Help save Forever Knight! Ask me how. ***
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:01:04 EST
From: MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Geminis
They handed out the awards for the supporting actors last night, and
Nigel won for Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series!
Congratulations, Nigel!
The award for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series (for which Deb
was nominated) went to Patricia Hamilton for "Road to Avonlea".
The awards for which Ger and Catherine are nominated will be given out
tonight. I'll post the results either late tonight or early tomorrow.
If anyone is interested in the full list of awards please let me know
(by private e-mail) and I'll send it to you. A word of warning - it's
>very< long!
A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!) Via Internet: gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
*** Help save Forever Knight! Ask me how. ***
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 07:18:14 -0800
From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
>On Mar 02, 1996 23:14:42, 'Harper <RCMANN@d.......>' quoted her response
>from Sony:
>
>>It was our hope and vision that Forever Knight's core audience would
>>eventually expand into one of mass market appeal; however, this did
>>not happen. Subsequently, the economic realities in our business
>>often force us to make difficult decisions about very good television
>programs.
It is my own opinion that helping the FK show "expand into one of
mass market appeal" would have included *airing it at reasonable hours*;
giving it some real PR, making available Forever Knight merchandise, having
its stars do publicity here in the States on talk shows, news shows, charity
events, etc., and arranging write-ups in various publications such as
"People Magazine" etc. USA, Tri-Star and Paragon all appeared to have
depended on 1 recurring ad in People Magazine and 10 and 30 second promos
aired just before the show to attract an audience; scheduling it to follow
*wrestling* would also not count as one of the smarter placement moves USA made.
It took X-Files a steady, same time, Friday night time slot, and 2
seasons to develop into a big hit and even now, if one looks at the rankings
of the shows, X-Files is *not* amongst the top 10 or even 20 shows...it does
occupy, however, a steady 30-40 place ranking, and generates a lot of
publicity for its stars, something FK has never done. Has there ever been a
major piece done on either GWD, or DD, or CD or NB? Not that I have ever
seen! Have any of the shows stars ever appeared on any of the AM talk
shows? Again, not that I've ever seen. Has any of the stars ever even
appeared in "People Magazine"? Again, I've never seen them. Was there a
dearth of publicity or were the Forever Knight stars publicity shy?
If one should go into any comic store, the X-Files comic holds a
place of great exposure; book stores will have the X-Files books, discount
stores all have T-Shirts, hats, books, etc. readily available...the stars of
the show are always on TV or in the news magazines with quotes, pictures,
appearances, etc. I wouldn't call Vancouver a mainstream, media capitol,
but Duchoveny and Anderson are all over the boards generating publicity for
their show.
We, on the Internet, are devoted fans but each and every one of us
has had the experience of meeting other people who will tell us either they
have never seen or heard of the show, or if they have seen it, say, "Oh
yeah, that's a good show...when is it on again?" Going out beyond the
on-line experience only demonstrates that true lack of support Forever
Knight was given by its promoters and can lead one to believe that there was
a political reason behind this lack of support. I *hate* the idea of
political conspiracies...I just don't think people are that malleable and
can be manipulated by others that easily, but, obviously something is (was)
going on that we, the show's fans, were unaware of. Perhaps USA was forced
to take the show as part of another deal and then simply decided *not* to
support it...who knows?
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:18:17 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Rebec/cello Forwarded mail....
In my mailer I couldn't tell if this came to me or the whole
list. I bounced Cousin's Diane's rebec/cello question to Fred Mollin,
and found this partial message in my box today.
I assume it begins with "please pass" or something like that
[please pas]s on to Cousin Diane:
The opening notes of the FK theme are digitally sampled cello.
It seemed to work at the time, and your lovely letter tells me it's still
working..
thanks a million
Fred
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:34:04 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Nigel won! Hot diggity!
On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN wrote:
> They handed out the awards for the supporting actors last night, and
> Nigel won for Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series!
> Congratulations, Nigel!
Calloo callay o frabjous cold Canadian night!
Yay, hooray, how well deserved!
Did he make an acceptance speech? (Did *LaCroix* make an
acceptance speech?)
Ap.
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:35:26 -0500
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Fic & Movie Cast
On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Shannon Thompson wrote:
> Quick question about the fic list....how do I make sure I'm getting
> everything including things with an ADULT header? I know how to find out
> what I'm set for, but I don't know if I'm set to get everything or not.
> <shrug> sorry for the ignorance :)
I've sent the information to Shannon.
As for the movie cast, having watched Outbreak last night, I could see
Donald Sutherland as LC and almost see Dustin Hoffman as Nick. Would
that make Renee Russo Janette?
Siona@n.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:36:11 -0500
From: Carmen Perry <cperry@e.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
I hate to waste Bandwidth but if anyone is keeping track of e-mail addresses
I've moved. I am now at cperry@e........ So if you had me listed at
ai638@d....... please change. I've changed all my subscriptions to
the new address. Thanks
Carmen
cperry@e.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:44:02 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Sony
Sherri,
As far as I'm concerned - send the damn cards -they sound great! What more
could they do to us now anyway? It really doesn't matter, they've lied to us,
and taken away our show -there's nothing more they can do to us anyway. The
only way I'd say no is if it could, in some way, hurt the people we care about
(those involved in the show). I would want any kind of backlash because of that
- but I don't think that would be a problem.
Do you think?
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:50:26 EST
From: MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Geminis - Nigel
Apache asked if Nigel gave an acceptance speech for his Gemini win. I
would have to assume he did, but the awards yesterday weren't
televised so I have no idea what he would have said. Maybe I can find
out today.
A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!) Via Internet: gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:54:31 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel won! Hot diggity!
Nigel won - great!! At least they realize great talent when they see it. Now,
does that mean there's a good chance it might be followed by one for Ger (hope,
hope, fingers crossed). At least they 'll get something good this year from the
show they worked so hard on. I think that would be a fitting ending to a
fabulous piece of work for Ger, don't you think!!?
Congrats Nigel - ya definitely deserve it!! But we always knew that anyway.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:56:29 -0500
From: Helen Schreiner <HelenCS@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fred Allen card/response to Sony
Sherri-
I think your card is funny--and most likely -- Feltheimer, Perth and
Kolpovitz won't actually be reading them. However, I still feel we have to
be careful about the tone of our letters, now that we are in the fight for FK
for the long haul. We don't know who will be helpful in the future. I
think we have to be pragmatic-- I don't think we should risk turning anyone
off to our campaign.
Besides, regarding this, I keep think of that quote from the
Godfather--"keep your friends close and your enemies closer" ;-)
Helen (HelenCS@a.......)
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:04:41 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Fic & Movie Cast
At 10:35 AM 3/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
> for the movie cast, having watched Outbreak last night, I could see
>Donald Sutherland as LC and almost see Dustin Hoffman as Nick. Would
>that make Renee Russo Janette?
Siona,
I totally agree on the Sutherland pick! It was just what I thought
of,especially towards the end,which I won't ruin for anyone,but one of the
lines he said could have been written for LC!
Annmarie
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:52:38 -0500
From: Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: Re: Rebec or Cello?
[What's playing the into. music?]
WCT said:
>Well, besides being Anthrovamp, I am also Cellovamp! :) I have been
>playing the cello for , oh my god, 12 years now. Since I was, um,
>very very young. And if that instrument in the intro AIN'T a cello,
>then it's doing a damn good impression! Maybe it's a cello trapped
I seem to recall Fred Mollin saying on this list a while back
(yoohoo, Fred, are you out there?) that the music to the intro.
was entirely synthesized by him.
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