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Digest - 25 Feb 1996 to 26 Feb 1996 - Special issue

Mon, 26 Feb 1996

There are 37 messages totalling 1006 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Cousinly Community and Vampire Eyes
  2. Virginia FK PARTY
  3. Best/worst eps
  4. Geminis Airing
  5. A question about Larry Merlin (2)
  6. SPOILER: Last Knight: word from Paragon LA
  7. fanfic question:  "Knight in Hell"
  8. Should *we* tell TriStar about LK?
  9. Season 1's death(?) of LC
 10. YKYBWTMFK When......
 11. Is Lois Lane a FoD?
 12. Nick will live on!
 13. opportunities
 14. Auction - For Real
 15. ADDING ADULT TO OPTIONS
 16. Opportunities
 17. Exercises in ESP
 18. Stripping / USA
 19. Problem with Sony FK Page?
 20. who else?
 21. Abject Apologies
 22. KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ (2)
 23. Adding Insult to Injury... (2)
 24. Adding Insult to Injury 2
 25. Recent news, mail problems and staying on the list
 26. TV Guide
 27. Sorta kinda good news???
 28. help for a friend
 29. Retrieving fiction
 30. Lois Lane is a FoD!
 31. Love Letters
 32. What happens if.......
 33. German homepage
 34. YNYBWTMFK...

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:00:33 -0500
From:    Cousin Zillah <zillah@i.......>
Subject: Cousinly Community and Vampire Eyes

Cousins like a good prank. There's no way around it, we're kinda stupid
that way. We like to have fun and we like to share that fun, even if the
punchline borders on the sadistic. ::wicked grin:: We tend to work well in
small groups, though you probably won't see us *all* do something at once.
I think there is a very good reason for that too.

It's not that we don't have a sense of community... Cousins are just as
loyal to their own as any faction. Like LaCroix, though, we're all a
headstrong lot and we all have ideas and we all want to see them executed.
LaCroix can enforce his opinions, though, and we don't because we're all
the same to each other.

Did that make any kind of sense at all?

**And Now For Something Completely Different**

The thing with the different shades of eyes... it has to do with the
different kinds of contacts they used. During the first season, the
contacts were a kind of lime green becoming yellow in the centers (though
you could only see that in the close-ups). In the second season, they used
contacts that reflected the light that was shown on them, so we got
vampires with glowing red eyes. Without the light shining on them, and
there were some scenes that they were used without the glow, they seemed to
be a kind of yellowish green. Paler than first season, but not that
noticable. Third season went back to non-reflective green, reportedly
because the reflected light from the second season lenses made seeing too
difficult. (Didn't Ger mention tripping over a light stand once because he
couldn't see past the glow of his own eyes?) The only new effect this
season was in "Sons Of Belial" when we saw Nick vamp out in front of us...
his eyes went green before our eyes through the use of post production
computer animation... though some interpreted the eye color change to be
the demon rather than Nick's vampire nature showing through.

I think I got all that right. ::grin:: If I made any mistakes, please
someone let me know.


=== Take It Light ===
___________________________________________________________

.Cousin Zillah.
.zillah@i........
"I was just thinking about the immortal words of Socrates when he said: 'I
just drank what?' "
___________________________________________________________

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:02:50 -0500
From:    Cousin Zillah <zillah@i.......>
Subject: Virginia FK PARTY

Would all the people planning to attend the Forever Knight Party in
Virginia during the month of March please send your e-mail addresses to me
(that's Cousin Zillah) at <zillah@i.......>. I want to set up an e-mail
loop so that some of the finer details can be worked out.

Thanks! Hope to see some of you very soon!


=== Take It Light ===
___________________________________________________________

.Cousin Zillah.
.zillah@i........
"I was just thinking about the immortal words of Socrates when he said: 'I
just drank what?' "
___________________________________________________________

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:09:24 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Best/worst eps

On Sun, Marina wrote:
>I wonder if the first episodes a person sees
>colors how they see the rest of FK?

This point is especially interesting because we keep using the "bringing
across" metaphor to describe new fans.  Pushing this a bit, the
relationship of a fan with the episode -- or the season -- that brought
her across would be... On second thought, maybe I don't want to push this
metaphor, after all. :)  Personally, the first episode I watched *on
purpose* was "BB," but the episode that "brought me across" was "NiQ."
Does that make it merely logical that I'm an N&Ner?  And that I'm so
attracted to the whole "redemption" motif?  I have noticed that none of
those who want Nick to "accept" his vampirism seem to be newbies...

***** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training; N&Ner)
"For ever panting and for ever young;
All breathing human passions far above" -- Keats

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:33:22 -0500
From:    Jill Marie Spetoskey <jilkey@u.......>
Subject: Geminis Airing

Okay, I"m starting to try to figure out what I need to set the vcr for
over spring break, and I had a few questions.

1.  Is the ep. airing on the weekend of March 1 a new ep? What about the
weekend following?

2. When are the Geminis airing in the eastern time zone?  My tv book only
goes to Saturday night (and HNiC is showing the MakeBelieves, aargh!)
I'm getting Channel 9 out of Windsor, Ont. if that helps.

Thanks for any help!

Jill Marie
jilkey@u.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:53 -0600
From:    Christy Tucker <ctucker@m.......>
Subject: A question about Larry Merlin

I have seen Larry Merlin mentioned in fanfic, but have yet to see an episode
 where he is mentioned (granted, I have missed quite a few episodes).  I know he
 is usually responisble for providing new identities to those in the vampire
 community  who want to disappear and start over.  So my question is, is he only
 a part of fan fic, or is he actually an FK vampire?  This is for a piece of
 fanfic I am working on, so if anyone could provide me with this information,
 Iwould be grateful.

BTW, if this posts twice, please forgive me.

Cousin Christy
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^
ctucker@m.......
The Road to Damascus: http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~ctucker/

"are you hurt, madam?"
"no sir, i am dead."
"that is serious.  may i help?"
        -Orlando
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:23:32 EST
From:    Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: SPOILER: Last Knight: word from Paragon LA

Jamie said:

"C'mon, guys, don't let it get you down.  It's not over... and even when it's
over, it's STILL not over... and even after the fat lady has sung,
left the building, gotten into her car and taken the first plane out of town,
it will STILL not be over.  Because death is only permanent in real
life; this is television, and television is fiction, and in a fictional world,
NOTHING is impossible."

Thank goodness for you - putting my brain cells back on track.  I don't care
what they do on screen - we will keep the characters the way we want them!"

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:46:41 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: A question about Larry Merlin

Hi Christy,
Larry Merlin is not just in fanfic. He appeared in th first season ep.
"Hunted." The reason he seems like a purely fic character is because
that's the only ep he appears in. TPTB have a nasty habit of doing
vamp-of-the-week cameos. A vamp character is introduced only once to
provide plot elements for Nick or the other main vamps. Then that new
character is never seen again. I. for one, hate it when they do this! I
know that the show is about Nick, LC, Janette, and Vachon, but they don't
exist in a vacuum. TPTB can't just play lip service to the "Community."
This is an old gripe. The vamp-of-the-week phenomenon is a manifestation
of TPTB's disreguard for continuty. They've improved continuity this
season, but I doubt we will get much on those one timer vamp characters.



Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:50:07 -0500
From:    Michelle McDonald <mcdonald@m.......>
Subject: fanfic question:  "Knight in Hell"

Hello all,

I've heard the story "A Knight in Hell" by Susan Garrett mentioned a
few times recently.  Anyone know where I can get it?  (online preferably)
I already checked Darkangel's site and the ftp site, btw.

thanks,

Michelle

// michelle mcdonald            mcdonald@m.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:25:01 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Should *we* tell TriStar about LK?

        OK, here's a wild idea:  since, as we've discussed in the past,
closure is bad in terms of future movies and so on (think Alien Nation as
a potential model for FK returning as films), mightn't TriStar object to
any wholesale slaughter?  We know from JP that, at least in January, the
concept of a future TV or direct-to-video movie had been at least
discussed.

        Someone with more industry knowledge tell me:  how likely is it
that TriStar knows in advance how JP is planning to wrap the series?  I
would think, especially after 2 months of "harassment" from us, the
answer is "not very."  TriStar probably doesn't want to even think about
FK, especially since it's sending even non-FK mail off to Paragon unopened.
But wouldn't they want to know?  Isn't a possible "Blake's 7" ending
going to damage the value of a property they apparently want to retain?

        That episode wrapped whatever filming it was going to involve
last week and is now in post-production.  Editing can alter episodes even
after filming.  Is it worth taking a crack at getting TriStar involved?
Or Sony?

        Since we also know that TriStar now seriously hates SOS-FK,
there's no point in us writing to them; someone would have to phone.
And that phonecall would be hampered by the incompleteness of our
knowledge.  Still, we can honestly say that we've had two indications
from Paragon, both LA and Toronto, that the final episode although
substantially composed of clips, will significantly limit their future
story options.

        Is this idea either completely unrealistic or unworkable?
Not to mention just plain stupid?  Laurie, Toni H.?

Laura

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:32:40 -0800
From:    Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Season 1's death(?) of LC

Colin Paddock responded to "How did they bring LC back from the dead in
Season 2:
>Nick didn't drive the stake in all the way and he
>didn't cheak to make sure lacroix was all the way dead. Lacroix was strong
>enough to pull the stake out and get blood.

As I recall the ep (Dark Knight), LC bursts into flames and ends up as a
pile of ashes.  Kinda hard to get a grip on the stake under these
circumstances.  And it all happened in Nick's loft, so he should have
noticed if LC wasn't all the way toasted.  I can just see Nick pulling out
the old Dirt Devil and vacuuming up LC's ashes -- "With a friend like the
Nightcrawler, you really need a maid service."

Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)
  "Cars are sexier with fins, don't ya think?  More predatory." -- JDV

To emerge from her world of re-runs, from her endless forever mourning

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:26:09 EST
From:    Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFK When......

You know........

When you're watching Lois and Clark and Lex Luthor asks another person "What's
the Greek Translation for Minutes?" and his answer is "Nick, grab me another
souvlaki!!"
and you start screaming and laughing hysterically.

The good thing is everyone in the living room is an FK fan and knows exactly why
you're screaming.  My daughter grabbed my leg and started screaming "It's a
sign, it's a sign...it's got to be a sign!!".


Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:27:53 -0500
From:    Bea  Quindlen <OCaoin@a.......>
Subject: Is Lois Lane a FoD?

This is from tonight's episode of Superman.

Lex Luthor: "Define 'seconds' "
Lois (who has amnesia): "Nick, give me another souvalki!"

We know what show Lois watches!

Bea OCaoin@u.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:32:52 -0800
From:    Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Nick will live on!

I was just watching "Lois & Clark" and the following dialogue came up:

Lex Luther:  "What is the Greek definition of seconds?

Lois Lane:   "Nick, get me another souvlaki?"

Shades of the Knight and fond memories of Schanke!!

Jackie

Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:01:40 -0800
From:    Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: opportunities

TJ responding to "Fever" being my favorite ep so far:
>Too much Vachon, too little Nick, IMO, but I suppose it had to happen sometime.

Sorry , TJ, but, IMHO, there is *no* such thing as "too much Vachon."  And
there was quite alot of Nick in this ep.  Nick did have some *real good*
scenes, my favorite being the final scene with Vachon -- two incredible
actors exchanging looks that said far more than words ever could have.  Gee,
I guess this makes me a Heartbreaker afterall (thought only TP had that
honor from me).

Dona Bonnela

Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)
  "Cars are sexier with fins, don't ya think?  More predatory." -- JDV

To emerge from her world of re-runs, from her endless forever mourning

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:42:41 -0600
From:    Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: Auction - For Real

Well, those of you who wanted the props can now buy them.

Now I know why that auction thread gave me the willies.  Tempting fate . . .

Please forgive if this has already been posted.  I'm overwhelmed by the
traffic and have been on nomail a while.  Please privately e-mail me with
comments.
Thanks, Kayla

>Forwarded message:
>From:  owner-sf-news@s.......
>Sender:        owner-sf-news@s.......
>Reply-to:      owner-sf-news@s.......
>Date: 96-02-23 14:38:56 EST
>
>FOREVER KNIGHT - ACTUAL VEHICLES USED IN THE SERIES FOR SALE
>
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:59:08 -0600
>From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
>Subject: Fwd: UNIQUE FK ITEMS FOR SALE BY PRODUCTION OFFICE
>
>     I'm forwarding this to you right away because its important and the
>deadline is March 1st...
>
>>>>>Subject: UNIQUE FK ITEMS FOR SALE BY PRODUCTION OFFICE
>>>>>To: forkni-l@p.......
>>>>>Status: RO
>>>>>
>>>>>I was asked to post the following by the Forever Knight
>>>>>Production Office:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The Forever Knight Production Office is auctioning off three
>>>>>unique, prized items associated with the television program
>>>>>"Forever Knight".  Bids must be submitted on or before March 1,
>>>>>1996 to the FK Production Office by fax number (000) 000-0000.
>>>>>CONDITIONS OF SALE are set forth below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        F O R E V E R       K N I G H T        S A L E
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>1.          VACHON'S MOTORCYCLE
>>>>>
>>>>>1995 TRIUMPH THUNDERBIRD 900
>>>>>3 CYLINDER 885cc
>>>>>90 HORSEPOWER
>>>>>ODOMETER: 1093 KILOMETERS
>>>>>
>>>>>Sports red with a steel gas tank and chrome TRIUMPH insignia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>2.       NICK KNIGHT'S 1961 CADILLAC CONVERTABLE #1
>>>>>     (AS SEEN IN THE TELEVISION SERIES "FOREVER KNIGHT")
>>>>>
>>>>>POWER STEERING,  POWER WINDOWS,  POWER BRAKES,  AIR CONDITIONING,
>>>>>POWER SEATS,   COLOUR: GREEN,   INTERIOR: LEATHER GREEN,
>>>>>CONVERTABLE ROOF:  WHITE,   HORSEPOWER: 325 bhp
>>>>>
>>>>>ODOMETER: 55,380
>>>>>
>>>>>Engine has been rebuilt, transmission has been rebuilt. Mechanical
>>>>>and cosmetics have been completely overhauled including new
>>>>>exhaust, new tires, new rubber seals, new brakes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The car is in excellent condition and has been stripped to bare
>>>>>steel, metal conditioned, primed and refinished in acrylic base
>>>>>coat - clear coat.
>>>>>
>>>>>Appraisal value $27,500 Cdn Funds, $20,212.50 U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>3.       NICK KNIGHT'S 1961 CADILLAC CONVERTABLE # 2
>>>>>     (AS SEEN IN THE TELEVISION SERIES "FOREVER KNIGHT")
>>>>>
>>>>>POWER STEERING,  POWER WINDOWS,  POWER BRAKES,  AIR CONDITIONING,
>>>>>POWER SEATS,   COLOUR: GREEN,   INTERIOR: LEATHER GREEN (OPTIONAL
>>>>>WHITE)
>>>>>CONVERTABLE ROOF: WHITE,   HORSEPOWER: 325 bhp,  CRUISE CONTROL,
>>>>>AUTO HEADLIGHT DIMMER ,  WONDERBAR RADIO
>>>>>
>>>>>ODOMETER: 12,537 MILES
>>>>>
>>>>>The subject vehicle is a very good, solid example of an extremely
>>>>>desireable collector vehicle.  As an example of one of Cadillac's
>>>>>most exotic luxury cars, it is likely to not only hold its value
>>>>>very well but appreciate with time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Appraisal Value $34,000 Canadian, $24,990 U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>(PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE IS A RESERVE BID ON ALL THE ABOVE ITEMS
>>>>>AND NO BID IS REQUIRED TO BE ACCEPTED BY FOREVER KNIGHT
>>>>>PRODUCTIONS INC.)
>>>>>
>>>>>             CONDITIONS OF SALE
>>>>>
>>>>>i)   All vehicles are sold in  "as is condition".
>>>>>ii)  Point of sale TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA.
>>>>>iii) All sales subject to applicable taxes, duties, imposts, etc.
>>>>>iv)  Payment by Cash or Certified cheque ONLY.
>>>>>
>>>>>SALE IS OPEN UNTIL MARCH 1ST, 1996.
>>>>>
>>>>>Offers should be FAXED on or before that date to:
>>>>>
>>>>>FOREVER KNIGHT PRODUCTIONS INC.
>>>>>(000)000-0000.
"Cousin" Kayla  E-me at katygale@i......., katygale@a.......
                DFWI: Head Flag Waver for Duncan's Backside
For "Forever Knight," see
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
For "American Gothic," see the Trinity Guardian at http://www.best.com/~owls
Wouldn't you know, "Nowhere Man" is in trouble now, too!!

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:43:35 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <chatelyn@n.......>
Subject: Re: ADDING ADULT TO OPTIONS

Janette said:

<You need to send a message to jadfe@j....... saying subscribe jadfe Janette
Zeitler (insert your name there)  I'm pretty sure that's how to do it, it is
NOT something you can send to listserve!!!>

Well, that is true if you are trying to subscribe to the JADFE list, but I
think the original post was asking how to get the ADULT stories posted to
FKFIC-L which is an entirely different list. If so, send this message to
LISTSERV@p.......

Set FKFIC-L Topics: All

(Not REAL SURE about the colon, but try it first.)

Lynn
Chatelyne@a.......
chatelyn@n.......

Lynn McAlpine
<Chatelyne@a.......>   <chatelyn@n.......>

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:29:50 -0800
From:    Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Opportunities

> Well, I'm glad that you love the third season... but have you seen the
>first 2 seasons???!!!!

Yes, I have seen some (about 10) of season 1 and a couple of season 2 -- I
like them, I really do!  But I *really* like season 3.  It doesn't sound to
me that most people on this list agree with my taste (or reasons therefore)
in eps, but the only season 3 eps that I haven't liked much are Blackwing
(and if it weren't for the Vachon angle in this one, I would never bother to
watch it again) and Strings.  Season 1 eps have a lot of good plots and
scenes, and I really like the miriade of relationships between all of the
characters -- you can really see the potential in all of them (love the
Schanke/Janet -- I mean, Janette -- scenes).

Someone else posted something to the effect of "does when you come into this
show effect your opinion on the seasons" (sorry, can't remember who).  I
think this is very true.  I got hooked on the characters as portrayed in
season 3, and I know this taints my view every time I watch an ep from a
previous season.  For me it's like, "I know you now and I like you now, so
tell me a story from when you were younger," every time I decide to pop in a
pervious season tape.  I love to watch them, but they always leave me
wanting more of *this* season.  If (WHEN) Sony puts the tapes up for sale, I
will buy them all, but, if I could only buy *one* season, I would buy season 3.

My idle opinion.  And I love this list for the reason that we all have these
terrificly different view points about this show that we all obviously love.
 Some mildly famous person (compulsive literary-minded people on the list
can probably tell me who) said "it's not the story, but what you bring to
it."  This definately applies to this list.  We all come from such diverse
backgrounds all across the world, so we all have these wonderfully unique
perspectives on the characters and their motivations.  It's great.

Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)
  "Cars are sexier with fins, don't ya think?  More predatory." -- JDV

To emerge from her world of re-runs, from her endless forever mourning

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:40:46 -0500
From:    Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: Exercises in ESP

Hey, all --

I have this old book containing lessons in ESP. I suddenly remembered two
of them yesterday.  They were --

a.  this thingy with a drawing of a pentagram that was supposed to focus
your thoughts and energy to give you whatever material thingy you desired,
providing you wanted it enough, and

b.  this other exercise with which the user could project thoughts to other
people, especially executives and bosses, so as to "sell" their ideas to
them and have them think in the way that the user wanted them to think.
One example was some guy going for an acting audition who used it to
convince the guy that he was best for the job.

These exercises were not religiously specific.

Does anyone want me to post them on the list?  They may sound kind of
silly, but I want to contribute somehow.


Cathy
usleamys@u.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:37:56 -0800
From:    "Toni C. Holm" <tch@w.......>
Subject: Stripping / USA

Karen Kasting  said:

>If there is no 4th season, and the series is stripped, preferrably at times
>when people other than dedicated fans are likely to see it, then it is likely
>that *a lot* of new fans will be brought across, swelling the ranks of those
>who want very badly for there to be a 4th season and more.

Good point -- although we may have to endure a while (the Knighties ought to
be good at that) it could be stripping the first three seasons that gets
some sort of recall of the show or if not, maybe made for TV- long episode
occasional movies (No matter what they do in the "last ep" -- nothing is
ever truly "finished" in TV land).

On a slightly related note:: The guy at USA from whom I get my schedule for
Highlander re-runs told me today that said that while USA has "re-run
rights", he thinks USA doesn't have rights to the 3rd season beyond "Fever"
--does this make any sense?  I thought they had shown some eps beyond this?
(I have to admit I don't watch USA very often...)

Anyway he gave me the March schedule  for FK as well.
        3/7/96 Thur 1am - "Blind Faith"
        3/14/96 Thur 1am - "Strings"
        3/21/96 Thur 1am - "Fever"
        3/28/96 Thur 1am - "Night in Question"

I think it's worth sending a few more disingenuous letters to USA saying
"I'm so glad you're still showing FK episodes -- when do we get new ones???"
just to keep reminding them.

                        -Toni   <tch@w.......>

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:11:56 -0500
From:    Roxanne Piccen <RoxanneP@a.......>
Subject: Problem with Sony FK Page?

Has anyone else been having problems connecting with Sony's FK web
page lately?  I normally have no difficulty, but two separate times this
weekend I've managed to get to the page and my screen freezes up. I
end up having to reboot my computer.  Is this a conspiracy on the part
of Sony/Tristar or is my online service just screwy?

Private e-mail replies, please, so as not to clutter the list.  Thanks.

Roxanne
====================================================
RoxanneP@a.......    Save Forever Knight!  For more details:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
It's not too late for salvation - Save American Gothic!
Check out The Trinity Guardian at http://www.best.com/~owls

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:57:58 -0500
From:    colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: who else?

The SAve Forever Knight page mentions that someone tried to buy fk.. But who
was it? thank,
Cp

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:01:00 CST
From:    Jill Kirby <jtkirby@m.......>
Subject: Abject Apologies

By some horrible quirk of my mailer, a reply to the Caddy sale notice was
sent to the list at large.  The reply contained obscenities, and I am very,
very, VERY sorry that it ended up on FORKNI-L.  I thought I was sending it
to a private list, which obviously was not the case.

Please accept my apologies.  I am certainly aware of list policy, and this
was a big mistake.  I deserve to be nomailed.

Jill
***
Jill Kirby - jtkirby@m....... - http://www.mcs.net/~jtkirby/
     NatPack             AB of the Cult of Skinner
 "I'm not mooning.  I'm obsessing.  There's a difference."

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:07:52 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ

Sharon  wrote:
>Plus my sense from the NATPE reports is that TriStar was *ready* to go with
>a fourth season, and that plan got scuttled at the last minute when USA
>dropped it.

Sharon's right, the evidence all leans that way.  Sandie Currie specifically
*told* us (and this is something she'd have no reason to lie about, really)
that she'd had the 'bite mugs' and t-shirts made up for NATPE before USA
pulled out.  That's why the merchandise was there at all!  And remember, they
were originally planning on having Ger come to NATPE.  They wouldn't have
spent that kind of money for second-run stripping (in point of fact, they
*didn't*!).  *And* (final fact) on the neato-nifty NATPE CD-ROM I picked up,
Forever Knight was the *very* *first* promo in the TriStar promo section!
(this was the pre-NATPE version; you had to be a member to get the current
one) Companies do *not* waste their prime promo spot on a show they're
relegating to re-run heaven, people!

So, I'd say we have some pretty convincing evidence that TriStar went into
their early NATPE planning sessions fully expecting to make *at least* one
more season of FK.

I know it doesn't change things now, but I do feel we shouldn't blame TriStar
for things it's fairly certain they *didn't* do....

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......    #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:23:46 -0700
From:    Falcon Storm <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Adding Insult to Injury...

Dark Phoenix wrote:

>How many times are we gonna get the auction notice about Nick's caddy?
>  If I had the money, to actually bid on
>the car, it wouldn't bother me.  I am SOOO depressed now.  :..(
>
>Anybody wanna join me at a pity party?

I'll join you.  I WANT THAT CAR!!!!!  <sniff, sniff>

Falcon Storm
Vaquera/Optimists' Club
satori@m.......
http://www.mt.net/~satori/Falcon/Storm.html

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:30:36 -0700
From:    Falcon Storm <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Adding Insult to Injury 2

I realized my last message did not come out correctly.  Yes, I want the
car, but I would much prefer to see the show CONTINUE!

I want the TV movies.

I wasn't "brought across" until the start of the third season, so I don't
know anything about the first cancellation.  Is this one at all the same?
Do we have a chance?

I'm going to vent a little:  There are two shows I watch on TV nowadays:
Highlander and Forever Knight.  They are the only thought provoking shows
around!  I don't remember which episode I was watching, but Nick and
LaCroix were having a very philosophical discussion in Nick's apartment,
and I was thinking how unusual and how wonderful that was.

It disgusts me to see a commercial for "Weird Science" where the
genie-idiot, is ripping the head off one of the guys following an FK
episode.  Gross.

Falcon Storm
Vaquera/Optimists' Club
satori@m.......
http://www.mt.net/~satori/Falcon/Storm.html

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:53:39 +0000
From:    Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Recent news, mail problems and staying on the list

Hi, everyone,

The unfortunate timing of the problems with the listserv coincident
with some of the news we've gotten lately (the sale of the caddies,
the speculation on the content of the last show) has really made one
thing obvious to me. When I realized how ALONE I felt because of the
lack of mail contact, I also realized how much I have come to think
of the members of FORKNI-L as my community, my family, my friends.
Nothing that happens, nothing TPTB can do, can take that from us! I
will stay on this list until there is no more list!

Things may look dark, but I'm still holding on to hope. After all,
look how much we've accomplished, in such a short time. We are and
AMAZING group of people!

I still have a candle burning in my window every night. It's been
there since we heard the news of impending cancellation and there it
will remain!

Love,


Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker/FFFROG (ktobin@t......., KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian, Save Forever Knight Campaign/Almighty Address Goddess
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help,  email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:20:03 -0000
From:    Lane Lombardia <longpath@d.......>
Subject: Re: Adding Insult to Injury...

>Subject:     Adding Insult to Injury...
>Sent:        2/25/96 7:41 AM
>Received:    2/25/96 4:32 PM
>From:        Dark Phoenix, NSHEA4371@a.......
>Reply-To:    FORKNI-L, FORKNI-L@p.......
>To:          FORKNI-L, FORKNI-L@p.......
>
>Date sent:  25-FEB-1996 01:37:13
>
>How many times are we gonna get the auction notice about Nick's caddy?
>I burst into tears when I saw the first one (and got chewed out by my
>parents 'cause of it, too!)  If I had the money, to actually bid on
>the car, it wouldn't bother me.  I am SOOO depressed now.  :..(
>
>Anybody wanna join me at a pity party?
>
>Dark Phoenix
>NSHEA4371@a.......
>
I know it sucks; but, if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
Sincerely,
Lane Lombardia

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:51:45 -0700
From:    Falcon Storm <satori@m.......>
Subject: TV Guide

TV Guide is featuring Cool Cops, but there's no mention of FK.  Should we
inundate them with letters?

Falcon Storm
Vaquera/Optimists' Club
satori@m.......
http://www.mt.net/~satori/Falcon/Storm.html

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:20:47 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Sorta kinda good news???

Not sure everyone will consider this good news, given the reaction to
the postings re the Caddys, but ...

There's a pretty good chance that the FK Production Office is going to
make available to the list a number of smaller FK props, to be
auctioned off, with the proceeds to go to the Pediatric AIDS
Foundation.

It also appears there may be several other fannish charity auctions of
FK memorabilia, so at least some things are not being destroyed.

More details when they become available.

Laurie

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:53:59 -0500
From:    Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ

>very weird that it should show up now.  It mentions the cancellations by
>CBS and USA, but strongly implies that the fan following has kept the show
>alive despite that.  I'll post the content of the article later tonight if
>anyone's interested.

I'm interested.

----  TJ

 Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine:  News of the Science Fiction Universe

                     http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:58:51 -0500
From:    AC Chapin <sdragon@g.......>
Subject: help for a friend

My best friend Amy badly needs first and second season eps.  I'd make
copies for her, but most of my eps are n-th generation, and I shudder to
think what the offspring would look like; besides, I only have one
(rather ornery) VCR.  I'd really appreciate it if somebody could do a set
for her (see if you can't work a trade for some of her fantastic artwork).
Please contact Amy at aas2@c........

OBFK: in Dark Knight, Nick and Janette have a discussion suggesting that
they've gone by various different names.  We've seen the last names
change, but what about the first?  Can you really image Janette being
called anything but "Janette"?  What? (anybody who says "Mommy" get's
thwapped with a stuffed cow)

AC Chapin     sdragon@g.......      http://www.glue.umd.edu/~sdragon
        ...back to the lurkdom that graduate school applications and
graduate AI have made of my life...

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:55:41 GMT
From:    Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@u.......>
Subject: Re: Retrieving fiction

>Could someone please tell me privately how to retrieve fiction parts that I
>might have missed?

The information has been sent.

Bea       Ocaoin@u.......

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:01:23 GMT
From:    Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@u.......>
Subject: Lois Lane is a FoD!

I haven't seen this drop and its been 8 hours so...
On tonight's Lois & Clark/Superman:

Lex Luthur asked:         "Define 'seconds' "  (he was referring to time)
Lois Lane's reply:         "Nick, hand me another souvlaki!"

Obviously, Lois is a fan...

Bea       Ocaoin@u.......

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 02:09:57 -0500
From:    Judith Freudenthal <JudithF955@a.......>
Subject: Love Letters

Since my original post got rather mangled here is a revised version.

I would have loved to see Ger and Catherine in Love Letters and will gladly
trade for a copy of the tape, if anyone made one.

That would have been one steaming performance.

Judy
JudithF955@a.......

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Date:    Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:42:16 -0800
From:    wendy lee rios <wlrios@i.......>
Subject: What happens if.......

Alright, everybody, I admit it!  I'm new around here and haven't
figured out a lot of the technical stuff that is going on.  I'm going
away for a couple weeks, and don't want to miss ANYTHING that's going
on.  What will happen to me and my mailbox if I just let it pile up
while I'm gone?  Will my mail vanish in a puff of smoke?  Will I have
50,000 messages waiting for me upon my return?

Please e-mail me privately with your suggestions or comments. . . .

I remain,

Lurking
and Newly Converted Dark Knightie
(and maker of many cranes)
Wendy Lee Rios

P.S. Has anyone else noticed how many Wendy's are out here?

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:50:53 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: German homepage

        I just want to say how gorgeous the German "Nick Knight" homepage
is.  (You can get there by hotlink from Jasmine's FK homepage; it's so
nice I bookmarked it.)

        Aside from what lured me there, the really good Vachon picture
(from Black Buddha), there are really good images of everyone, plus grabs
from episodes:  at the moment, A More Permanent Hell (great images of
Divia munching Lucius, Janette leaning over a smoking Natalie, and Spark,
both lively and staked); Queen of Harps, and the episode that brought me
over for keeps, Can't Run, Can't Hide (that episode featured a lovely
young vampire with long black hair... the young Viet Cong organizer
LaCroix brought across.)     There are also some waves; I don't know if
they're in German or English -- imagine what the Nightcrawler would sound
like in German.

        And you can practice reading German, since every fourth or fifth
word is something you'll recognize, like Raven.


Laura

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Date:    Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:13:44 -0600
From:    Susan Schaefer <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: YNYBWTMFK...

Got another one!

YKYBWTMFKW...

Your favorite dream involves your SO, a lot of ice cream, and Uncle's fangs
sunk firmly into your neck...

Another true experience!  Ah, that was a wonderful expression of REM sleep...

Still crazy after all these jeers,

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
To be sane is to experience total madness.

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