FORKNI-L
Digest - 23 Feb 1996 - Special issue
Fri, 23 Feb 1996
There are 38 messages totalling 1011 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Hello?
2. Hello? Anyone out there? (3)
3. Wars and such
4. More SOS FK (2)
5. B7 request answered
6. The list?
7. YKYB/See you Monday/TopTen/Etc!
8. Going away
9. Nomail check
10. FK soundtrack CD
11. Cranes, cars, catastrophe
12. SPOILER: Last Night (2)
13. SET TO NO MAIL (2)
14. Amateur Night
15. All the FK lists...
16. And in other news this week...
17. opportunities (2)
18. Wars, organization, and cross affliations
19. CD in Friday 13th
20. The Vampire Bunch
21. FK Novels
22. Name change
23. FK novels
24. FoD and Arizona
25. USA Syndication Rights
26. YKYBFPFKCTLW....
27. KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ
28. FK on USA
29. Be My Valentine
30. Test - just erase
31. Ratings
32. Fledgling on the list!
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:18:55 -0800
From: Amy R. <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Hello?
I bet a lot of these messages are showing up wherever it is lost email
messages go, but I've just realized that I haven't recieved ANYTHING from
the list today. Quiet... too quiet... Help!
***** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training)
"A man's spirit may be superior not only to his fate
but even to his own acts." -- R. Ornstein (on Hamlet[Nick])*
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:19:49 -0500
From: Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Hello? Anyone out there?
I got no mail at all yesterday from any of the lists. Now I am back and
happy. Did nayone get the depressing announcement about the acution of
Vachon's motoercycle and 2 of Nick's Caddys?
I about cried when I heard that.
I'll miss FK( until we get it back) an all the fine acting, writing and high
quality of the show in general.
The episode that brought LC back is the first episode of the second season
Killer instinct.
Cousin Suk
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:06:43 -0600
From: Marvin Wry <mwry@e.......>
Subject: Re: Wars and such
On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, TORREY L HARRIS wrote:
> way to blow off steam and have some fun. So...that said...now is the
> time for all of you who are interested to go look up the old wars and
> read them...get your FAQ and see if you want to get involved in the fun
> when it does happen.
Could someone please e-mail me and tell me where I can find the wars
other than War one and two? Those are the only ones on the fiction site,
the last time I looked, and I've read on those already... I'm really wanting
to read the others. Is there anywhere I can get them? Thanks in advance!
Please use e-mail, as I often have to skim posts... Thanks! :)
Teresa (mwry@s.......)
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:16:53 -0800
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: Re: More SOS FK
Does anyone know the sony web address? I seem to have lost it. Thank you.
Heather
penni@w.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:26:54 -0500
From: Lynn Messing <messing@a.......>
Subject: B7 request answered
Mea culpa! I'm in the process of catching up on back posts to forkni-l &
fkspoiler. After I got fed up with trying to suss out what people meant uby
alluding to B7, I asked this list for enlightenment (since my request was not
a spoiler for fk, it seemed to me that it wasn't appropriate to ask on that
list).
I have now read, several messages later, an answer on fkspoiler to my question.
ObFK: Is anyone here planning to try buying one of Nick's caddies that TPTB
are auctioning off? *sniff* To think that just a few months ago, in far
happier times, we were blithely discussing what we would like from the sets
when they finally struck set. Little did we realize that would happen so soon!
But may the SOS-FK campaign convince *some* PTB (likely not the ccurrent
combination...) to rebuild the sets yet again!
cheers, Lynn messing@a.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:21:24 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: The list?
> Hi...I'm not getting any mail...I haven't since yesterday...is the list being
> held for some reason?
Katya's not the only one...I'm hardly getting any either. And I've posted
three messages within the last 24 hours and only one of them have made it
on-list.
Alora <acc0924@i.......>
Who is not *just* missing the sound of her own voice, but everyone else's
too!
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:33:52 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: YKYB/See you Monday/TopTen/Etc!
Hey all!
Item A. After not receiving any mail from FORKNI for over 24 hours, I did
something drastic. I unsubscribed. Of course, I then turned right around
and subscribed again. ;) Seems to have cleared up the problem, and I now
receive FORNKI mail again. I'll be on digest till Monday, as I am going on
Road Trip '96, drinking beaujolais and eating brownies with Cousin Suk and
others in the D/FW area.
Item B. YKYBWTMFK when you have a dream that Nick gets his dream come true
and becomes mortal, except he gets shot in the line of duty. But instead of
dying, he finds out that he's an immortal and Duncan MacLeod (of the Clan
MacLeod, who else?) teaches him how to chop people's heads off. Nick was
really peeved at first, I mean it was kinda ironic dontcha think, to find out
that you can't escape immortality? But then he and Nat went -- and I don't
know why I dreamed this part -- to James Coney Island and Lacroix made chili
dogs for all concerned. This was a particularly weird dream, since I don't
even watch the HL series!
Item C. Just real quick, the top ten things I'm gonna do on my road trip:
10. Ask them if they have any bottled blood at the Seven Eleven. 9. Put a
bumper sticker on my rented Nissan Sentra that says: "My Caddy's in the
Shop". 8. Bring across the waitress or waiter who serves me at the Howard
Johnson's. 7. Write grafitti in the bathroom stalls of gas stations: that
cool dripping logo from FK's opening sequence. 6. Introduce myself as the
Nightcrawler's Loveslave to the guy at the car rental place. 5. Hypnotize
people to caw like a crow every time they go to a TriStar movie. 4. Spend
money I don't have. 3. Eat brownies (see above). 2. Meet and marry a really
really rich guy (or string of guys) who'll include in our wedding vows the
words: "I promise to fund future seasons of Forever Knight." And the number
one thing I'll be doing: 1. Coming up with more FK top ten lists. Muahahaha!
See ya Monday! Keep the blood warm.
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:48:13 EST
From: Hiromasa Fukuda <75052.2262@c.......>
Subject: Going away
I'm going to be on a ski-trip tomorrow, so if message traffic is heavy here, CIS
is probably going to reject 100+ messages. IF anyone is sending requests for my
address, and you get an error, please try again.
-Viper
East Coast coordinator, wishing crane project.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:09:20 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Nomail check
Can someone tell me how to check to see if I have been set to nomail.
Thanks so much.
Love, \|/
Wendy Marie |o o|
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------
wendy@i.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:03:16 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Hello? Anyone out there?
On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Bonnie Pardoe wrote:
> I got more posts on my alarm clock than I did
> on my computer today. Oh, and thanks to Cyn, Apache, Cousin Tippi, and
> Susan Garrett for their early morning posts to my clock; I promise that I
> will try to *dream* my replies tonight. <:-)
Damn, and I was trying so hard to ring *Vachon's* chimes....
Ap.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:14:36 -0500
From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: FK soundtrack CD
Does anyone know if you can buy the fk soundtrack cd in stores or do you
have to order it?thanks
CP
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:18:26 -0500
From: Lynn McAlpine <chatelyn@n.......>
Subject: Cranes, cars, catastrophe
Now that I've finished folding my cranes (sincerely wishing for more
Forever Knight with each one) and am preparing to drop them in the mail, I
have to wonder if this project is still ongoing. All the lists have been
dead for almost 2 days, but I did manage to get the post about Nick's caddy
being for sale from another source. Pretty hard to keep thinking positive
thoughts with news like that.
Of course, if one of us *should* buy the caddy... well, for one thing we'd
(the car and owner, natch) would get invited to *lots* of upcoming cons.
Perhaps the lucky owner could even pay for the car that way... Just picture
it. "Step this way and have your photo taken in Nick's caddy for only..."
Heck, I'd pay. Oh well, just a thought.
Does anyone have an opinion on when we can expect to see first season
episodes? I've *never* seen one. Just imagine... 26 episodes just sitting
there waiting to be seen. Now *there's* something to look forward to!
Lynn McAlpine
<Chatelyne@a.......> <chatelyn@n.......>
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:25:37 -0500
From: Lynn McAlpine <chatelyn@n.......>
Subject: SPOILER: Last Night
Alora wrote after hearing from Gary at Paragon:
<According to him, "closure" is an EXTREME understatement>
E-x-c-u-s-e me. Isn't JP in charge of the creative end here? I mean sure,
Jon Feltheimer or Kay K. might be mad enough at us to do something mean
like this, but WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD JP DO THIS TO US!?!?!?!
Somebody tell me this isn't happening. Please.
Lynn McAlpine
<Chatelyne@a.......> <chatelyn@n.......>
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:42:52 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: SET TO NO MAIL
:Anyone else out there suddenly have their account set to NO MAIL? I thought
:maybe you guys were just being quiet, I should have known better. But suddenly
:I had no mail - ack - choke - sudden darkness. So I immediately set it back,
:but I wonder, is it happening to anyone else?
Maybe we were all set nomail. I (without checking for a nomail) figured that
the 24 hours or so without any FK was because of a list holdup again.
However, I've had Fksp and Fkl since then.
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:14:13 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: SET TO NO MAIL
I know exactly what is happening!!!! But first, do you have a Personal
Filing Cabinet Compacter? If not, tell me and I can fix it. If you do have
one, then I don't know what is wrong.
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:34:36 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Amateur Night
>the flashbacks in the 60's. But how a guy suspected of Communism in
>Chicago in the 50s could be in town a decade or less later as a cop...
>
>And then there was the ep where he was a cop at the convention in
>Chicago (sure looked like the 1968 Dem convention to me)...he must
I might say it was the same life if he hadn't lost the brogue somewhere
along the way ...
---- TJ
Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe
http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:39:19 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: All the FK lists...
At first I thought there was just something wrong on my end, but this is
getting disturbing. In 24 hours I have recieved less than 30
messages--and many of those were private e-mails.
Well at least I am not the only one...misery oves company and all that, I
guess. Does anyone know what is wrong?
This is message number 5 in 24 hours and only one fo them has made it to
the list...and I've tried posting on both the main and spoiler lists.
I am getting a little fanfic though...
Alora <acc0924@i.......>
Who is extremely confused by all this.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:52:05 -0500
From: Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject: And in other news this week...
[insert Voice over of Louis Armstrong here:]
We have just learned that Candice G. Cardasis has LEFT the Building!
[*watch as Louis' tape rewinds...*]
Yes, folks, I've done it. I finally left Harder Hall to catch up on all
of my e-mail, and my word, what a lovely load it is!
Re: Cranes et. al.
I did some research a few nights ago at the library (heaven forfend an
artist looking at a book! *grin) and I found out why some people were
concerned about sending cranes and dual meanings.
In 1977 Eleanor Coeer wrote a book called _Sadako and the
Thousand Paper Cranes_. It was/is a piece of childrens literature about
a boy hospitalized in Hiroshima with the "dreaded atom bomb disease
-leukemia." Sadako races against time to fold one thousand paper cranes
to verify the legend that by doing so a sick person will become healthy.
I am absolutely positive that there are more such books written, but I
can't list 'em all, cause you'd lynch me for filling your inboxes!
Anyway, it's a fantastic, is sad, book with paintings by Ronald Himler.
If you haven't done so already, check out Diane E.'s webpage on cranes (
I sent her an image for it, but I'm not sure if she go it..)
http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/fkcranes.html
Re: Lorelei,
illustrious ravenette now on the RIGHT coast ;)
I was ONLY trying to raise the good name of the Raven/ettes, honest!
..besides, I miss the class the place used to have (reminded me of
home..*sigh*) And just for the record, I was refering to umm...how the
raven/ettes reacted to the first few episodes of this season --not not
NOT how they reacted during War 5. .....when I get my hands on Vicki...
and Dawn....and Jamie...and [Name removed by request]....(maybe [Name removed
by request]...)....
Right, anyway, where was I? Oh! --Candi's PSA:
We're having a rally here at Alfred University on Monday the 26th
of February -1996 to demonstrate that acts of hatred and
discrimination because of sexual orientation will NOT BE TOLERATED.
My only problem is that I have to advertise all of this over the weekend
so that people will now about it and I need catchy slogan-type-things to
put on the posters I have. Help? If you have the time, e-mail me off
list with any ideas you might have. Yes, the rally and the events that
occured leading up to this rally is one of those things that have kept me
from my regular e-mailings 'cause this is VERY important to me.
Umm...did I mis anything else?
Oh! --Reasons To Be a Cousin:
5. Vent all you like, we'll make more mischief..
4. We're usually holding 2 of the Aces..
3. Walkie Talkies, one net of flour, 50 gallons of water,
and one net of glitter.....
2. Hangin' in Uncle's digs without worrying about becoming lunch..
1. Three Words: Bricks and Gardenhoses.
Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
Toreador by default
winter@j.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:11:05 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: More SOS FK
>>Warn people that they will need to list favorite (music) CD's, last 3
>>movies seen (I can't remember, its been so long!) etc. to fill all the
>>blanks and be eligible to win a t-shirt. Its easier if you're
>>prepared.
Okay, can anyone list some Sony films which may have been in theaters
recently or have been released to video, for those of us who just can't get
the brain in gear any more? HO wabout some CD's while you're at it? Thanks.
Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)
But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:04:23 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: SPOILER: Last Night
On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Lynn McAlpine wrote:
> Alora wrote after hearing from Gary at Paragon:
>
> <According to him, "closure" is an EXTREME understatement>
What is this??? I missed this note from Alora. Could someone please
e-mail me with it. PLEASE???
Now, if I am reading between the lines correctly, Alora talked to Gary at
Paragon and the last ep is going to be "closure" of the series? that is,
that everyone will die and/or Nick will become mortal? Or maybe Nick
will be mortal and then die.
> E-x-c-u-s-e me. Isn't JP in charge of the creative end here? I mean sure,
> Jon Feltheimer or Kay K. might be mad enough at us to do something mean
> like this, but WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD JP DO THIS TO US!?!?!?!
Because he doesn't want to think about it, or worry about it, or have us
continue to write to Tristar. Perhaps he thinks we are causing trouble
for him and doesn't want to be bothered with it anymore. He has probably
rearranged his mental mindset to "the end of FK" and now we are just
causing trouble.
What really P_sses me off though, is that Tristar lied. Perhaps Tristar
threatened him with not giving him work in the future if he didn't kill
off FK. It is entirely probable in my mind. For JP, it may be like a
deathly ill child, at some point you just want the agony to end. You
love your child, but you want his pain to end. There are less polite
interpretations for JP's behavior, but I'll trying to give him the
benefit of the doubt.
This is clearly no longer a business decision on Tristar's part, but a
"we're gonna kill that sucker if its the last thing we do. We're going
to shut those godd__m fans up." Given that they are shipping unopened
mail to Paragon, this is the only conclusion I can reach. They don't
care about the show or even the number of people watching it. They are
gonna kill it if it kills them. The Tristar execx simply can't take the
chance that another company could make a success out of the show.
> Somebody tell me this isn't happening. Please.
Its happening. I heard that Starman was axed not because of bad ratings
but because someone up top wanted to ax it. Now FK was started getting
the ax because of the ratings, but the final blow is that Tristar wants
to sweep this whole mess under the table. They are looking more and more
foolish with all the publicity. The sooner they can shut us up, the
better in their mind. So they get JP to creatively H-bomb the show so it
can never NEVER be resurrected.
This is really sick, but it is certainly an eye opener for the business
world. Job security is always number 1.
--
Vicki - vmerrima@i.......
Nick "What are you doing here?"
LaCroix "Making your life a living hell, as usual"
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:43:26 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: opportunities
I wrote and Janette Z. responded:
>>I *have* to say that I *very* *much* *like* the third season on FK!
> Yes, but can you honestly say that you *liked* such episodes as Trophy
>Girl,
I *love* this episode! Actually I have not seen it all the way through yet.
USA had it as a repeat last night and I just could not stay awake for it so
I recorded it and watched as much as I could of it today at lunch. I am
*dying* to get home to finish it! I even jammed home during my 15 minute
break to make sure I hadn't left it in the VCR to get recorded over and,
since I was there, I re-watched (about 12 times) the scene where Vachon
shows up in the Caddy and says to Nick, "Cars with fins are kinda sexy.
Don't ya think? More predatory." This is *classic*. Now, the
resolution/ending may suck, I don't know, but I must rank the aforementioned
scene as one of my all time favorites -- right up there with the one where
Nat chucks handfuls of popcorn at Nick.
>and Outside the Lines? Haven't seen it yet (thank goodness USA is good for
something)
>Let No Man Tear Asunder. Only saw this once, and I don't remember it very
well. Is this the ep with Nat getting knee surgery? 'Cause if it is, then
I loved the end scene with Nick and Nat where he makes some smarmy
compliment about her knee and then leans in to kiss her but she ducks out of
the way, or the scene where Nat is all fidgety on the table before her
operation, or when Tracy is talking to Vachon about the illegal donations --
"Do you want me to draw you a picture?".
And, of course, Fever was my absolute favorite so far. So many great
scenes. So much was given to the actors to work with and they all did a
helava job with it!
So, I still say that I *love* season 3 and I would not be un-happy by a long
shot if season 4 continued in the same vein.
Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)
But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:31:44 -0500
From: Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Wars, organization, and cross affliations
On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, vicki jean merriman wrote:
> but there is also tons of e-mail between the faction leaders in the
> leader loop and between each individual faction loop. Perhaps the Mercs
Ugh. If I never hear the words Faction Leader Loop again, it will be too
soon ;) Sometimes I'd have more posts from the planners than actual WAR:
<Subject> posts!
> Organization and timing was a major factor of the last War (at least
> certain segments of it) and I anticipate that it will be even more
> important in the next war with more and more people wanting to participate.
Timing...hmm, oh like the timing of the "Flaming Steak" or "Mrs. Gray's
Introduction to the Finer Wines"?
> It is especially important when the War starts winding up and we are all
> supposed to settle down and party hardy.
Amen to that! I know I was wishing at the end of the last War for a
reason for being kidnapped, dyed, and summoned to Toronto in the first
place! The party at the end usually gives us alla chance to figure out
or at least -speculate- about that!
> For example, in the last War Susan Garrett, and then I, contacted Jenny
> Hayes, the Chief Warmonger, before doing something as major as kicking
> the Cousins out of the Raven. In fact, I believe we even contacted the
> Cousin leader and checked with her, but I'm not 100% sure of that. The
Yes, you did ;)
> faction leaders don't tell the rest of their faction about "attacks" that
No, we don't, and persoanlly I just LOVE that!
> Also, when Cousin Candice and I were having "fights" back and forth over
> the Raven and with LaCroix, we e-mailed each other all the time to
> coordinate attacks.
And it was all in good fun, no cherie? *VEG*
Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
Toreador by default
winter@j.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:08:11 -0500
From: Maria Vrzoc <vrzoc@s.......>
Subject: CD in Friday 13th
The episode that CD appears in is called "Double Exposure" according to
my episode synopses for the series. I don't think she was in "Coven of
Darkness".
Both Alfred Hitchcock Presents and F13th are carried on the Showcase
cable channel in SWestern Ontario
M. Vrzoc (vrzoc@u.......) | Just a little off the top!
| -- A. Boleyn
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:10:37 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: The Vampire Bunch
The Humor impaired should avoid the Vampire Bunch, but everyone else
should run, not walk to their local ftp site and find it. It is very
very funny.
I don't know if Rastro and maddog are professional humor writers but they
certainly should be. They're nuts, and it comes through with great
clarity in their writing.
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:27:19 -0500
From: Anime House <marg@g.......>
Subject: Re: opportunities
>Janette Z wrote:
> Yes, but can you honestly say that you *liked* such episodes as Trophy
>Girl, and Outside the Lines? (The 2 worst eps of history IMO)Sure the last
8 or so eps have been great,
Well, now, you know, that's where opinion comes in. I dunno about Bonnie,
but I can honestly say that I liked both Trophy Girl and Outside the
Lines--lots. On the other hand, I thought Human Factor and Games Vampires
Play (part of your "last 8...great" episodes) sucked mud major big time. If
I wasn't such an all-fire completist, I wouldn't waste tape on either of
them, even at 6 hour speed. And Strings would be a dumper, too, if it didn't
have the interesting subplot with Tracy and her father. Admittedly, this
season produced one of my votes for worst episode in the show's history
(Blind Faith), but can anything be worse than last season's Baby, Baby?
And while I won't defend Let No Man Tear Asunder in general, it *did* have
two nice little Vachon scenes, which puts it ahead of many others...
Ah, subjectivity--such a lovely thing.
TTFN
Marg
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:28:46 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK Novels
If any of the following is incorrect, please feel free to correct me.
FK novels are tentatively planned to start coming out in early 1997.
(No, I don't know why it's taking them so $%^&$% long; I never will
understand that.)
The book deal was ready when the SOS FK campaign came along and sort of
put things on hold; now, my understanding is that things are basically
back on track.
The books will be new stories involving the third season cast of
characters.
The early books will probably be written by relatively unknown pros or
possibly fans-turned-pro. James Parriott himself was supposedly
selecting the first three authors and book ideas, if memory serves.
Eventually, if the books are a success, it is possible (NOT guaranteed,
only possible) that spec submissions may be considered.
I think the foregoing is accurate, but as I said, if anyone has better
info, please feel free to correct me.
Laurie CF
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:27:02 EST
From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: Name change
Hello all....boy it sure is quiet in here tonight. Well
anyway......just wanted to drop you a note saying that my address has
changed.
Dona_Torrey@p....... is the new one...so please update the leader
loop and other stuff for me. Thanks
PS. yes the "Dona" at the start of that is my tribute to the
Vaqueros...the few...the proud.....the deranged <G>. I love you guys.
Dona Torrey
*Vaquera*
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:31:57 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK novels
Stephanie Babbitt wrote:
>What's the story with FK novels? Who writes them--fans? Professional
>writers? I assume they are stories based on the FK characters, but are they
>new stories or expanded versions of TV eps? Do fanfic stories ever make it
>to novels (some of them are certainly good enough!)
Though I don't know for sure how it works with FK, I have had to do the
following when "auditioning" to write children's books:
Someone, probably with a professional publishing history, most likely submits
a proposal -- outline, synopsis, sample chapters, etc, along with a resume
sort of thing. If it's approved by TPTB, then a contract is worked out, but
TPTB retain the upper hand at all times. If the novel doesn't meet with
their approval, the author is probably left high and dry. A friend of mine
has a published Star Trek novel, so I will ask her how it came to be. She
was pro before then, though.
I think in all likelihood, it would be a pro writer, who is probably a fan in
the first place. Most people who write Trek novels had other things
professionally published before. While I think some fanfic is really
excellent, the writing styles of so-called "pro" fiction and fan fiction are
just different. I'm not saying one is better than the other. Obviously, I
have a great deal of respect for fanfic, since I started out as a "pro"
writer and now I'm obsessed with writing fanfic. ;) And I'm not very good at
it either! It's just two different realms.
I know another woman who started out writing slash Star Trek fanfic about 15
years ago and now has a Trek Encyclopedia published by Harper Collins, has
been nominated for Nebula Awards for her fiction, etc. (I may just be biased
because we're collaborating on a fantasy novel, though. <Shameless Plug!>)
So I think there is a lot of potential and a lot of talent in the pool of
(FK) fanfic writers. Having a publishing history outside of FK would just
endear them to the publisher (and TPTB), because it makes them more
marketable. It means they have what it takes to make money. Publishing, I
have learned, can be a cruel world!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:36:51 MST
From: Bridget Watts <bridget@n.......>
Subject: Re: FoD and Arizona
Beth Hawkes <Seilidhe@a.......> wrote:
> Roni Power posted "You might be an FOD if..."
> <1.) You think Arizona is a great place to live.>
Um, excuse the newbie clewlessness...
What does FoD mean? I know it has to do with Schanke, but that's it.
PS; Hi Beth and Kathy! I'm stuck in Tucson too!!! Auuuugh!!!
Thanks!
Bridget, Dark Knight with Cousinly Aspirations
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:36:52 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: USA Syndication Rights
The following is my understanding, based on industry practice and such
info as I have. It may not be accurate, but I believe it is (lawyerly
hedging here - it's compulsive, I'm afraid <g>)
Lisa Wolters inquired, re USA syndication rights:
Are those exclusive rights?
Almost certainly yes, for the term of the contract. My guess is that
the contract runs for another two years, based on something Nick Gray
said to me, but that's only a guess.
>And might this mean that we'll have to be grateful to USA somewhere
>down the line for bringing across so many new fans through the reruns
>that we'll eventually get our fourth season?
Could be. Ironic, aint it <g>? Just like Star Trek, way back when,
which failed in first run and made it big in syndication.
Might it also mean that syndies <won't> be airing FK reruns?
They syndies will be running FK reruns of third season until their
contracts are up in either August or September. After that, figure
you'll only see FK on USA (or, more probably, the SciFi Channel) until
the USA contract is up. (And, as I said earlier, only the first 13
episodes of third season are included in the USA package, together with
first and second season. In deference to anyone who actually LIKES the
first half of the third season (if any), I shall refrain from making my
usual sarcastic comments about it. <g>)
> I thought that seasons two and three were being offered at NATPE?
As far as I know, NO FK rights were offered at this year's NATPE. If
anyone has heard differently, please feel free to contradict me.
Laurie Fenster
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:39:36 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: YKYBFPFKCTLW....
YKYBFPFKCTLW....
(that's "folding Paper FK Cranes too long when..." :-)
... you notice that your neon-colored post-it notes are *just* the
right size... (we're gonna have some *bright* cranes out on
this coast, guys! ...if I can keep them from sticking _too_
much... :-)
... you find yourself next to a nicely loaded, net-connected
computer and a color printer for a while with time to kill...
... so you go to Jamie's page, download/convert/tile/resize-
to-3in-square/ and color-*print* yourself some fuzzies...
...warm ones... cool ones... baby ones... even weird ones...
(... and the FoFK logo... and the TO skyline gif...)
They make some bitchin'-lookin' cranes, guys! :-)))
Dianne
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
The Mad SOS-FK Digester -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
KoQTV -*- FoFoD -*- FKLPL -*- Crane-folder-in-training...
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:46:37 -0500
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ
So I posted this message on Thur at 1:00PM EST while I was home from work
for lunch. (It's great working 5 miles from home and getting an hour
lunch break.) When I got home from work about 5:15 it wasn't in my mail
yet. So I sent a query to the listserv to make sure that I was getting
copies of my messages. Then I had to leave to go bowling. When I got
home from bowling around 9:30PM the message still wasn't in my mail.
Then it suddenly occured to me that there wasn't ANY FK messages in my
mail. (I'm on so many mailing lists and get so much mail that I still
had an incredable amount of messages.) So I wrote to someone on the list
and they weren't getting any mail either.
Ok, so the mail is now starting to dribble in. How long should one wait
to repost? I've watched the times on the ones dribbling in and while
most are current, some of them are after the one that I sent. Normally I
wouldn't repost a message till some listowner came on and said that
messages were lost or they'd eventually show up, but I figure this one
might (I'm still not sure how to read this) be important.
So..... forgive me if it eventually shows up twice.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:03:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
To: Forever Knight <FORKNI-L@p.......>
Subject: KYW-TV Response - PLEASE READ
Sorry, didn't mean to shout at you with the last part of the subject, but
I need help interpreting this letter I received from KYW-TV in Philly today.
I don't think I've heard anything quite like this before, although I am
behind in reading all my lists.
Here's a copy of the letter (typos are mine):
Thank you for your interest in "Forever Knight." We
appreciate your ongoing support of this unique program.
However, the program's distributor, Columbia Television,
has advised us that effective in the fall of this year
Forever Knight will be seen exclusively on the USA Cable
Network. KYW-TV will continue to air the series until that
time.
Thank you again for your thoughts.
Naomi Adams
Program Coordinator
I can read a couple of things into this. I leave the more in depth
analysis to those of you better at it.
Siona@n.......
Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:43:05 -0800
From: Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK on USA
>> It shows FK back at it's original Monday night slot and
>> on Thursday nights at 11:00 (Mountain time). I hope it's right!
>Which Monday night slot? On USA?
When USA first started showing FK last Sept., it was on at 8:00PM Mountain
time. The schedule I received lists FK back on USA at that same time slot
starting in March. Definitely best to check your local listings.
Ted Atkinson Cousin
llacroix@i.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:12:03 -0500
From: Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject: Be My Valentine
To start with, I'm definitely a Knightie and I love the
idea of calling myself a damosel, although I don't know
how to do sigs yet. However, I'm posting this message
because I just saw Be My Valentine for the first time and
I'd love to talk about it with anybody who'll listen. I've
read that some people really dislike the ep, but I thought
the scenes between Nick and Nat were very romantic. In the
scene in the restaurant between Nat and LaCroix Nat struck me
as being terrified but pretending that everything was OK.
If you're tired of talking about this ep, maybe someone would
like to correspond with me privately about it. Pat Witham
(catspaw@c.......)
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:20:21 -0800
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: Hello? Anyone out there?
On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Bonnie Pardoe wrote:
> Oh, and I have a question: LC is dead during the first season. In what ep
> does he return and what explanation is given for his resurrection?
Explanation?????? Hey, Bonnie, this is Forever Knight here, you can't
expect them to really explain anything! :) All we got was "Did you
really think you'd killed me? I'm much too old and powerful." You must
admit, as explanations go it leaves a great deal to be desired. They're
better with that on the X-Files.
--Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:42:14 -0500
From: "Trudy A. Goold" <tag@a.......>
Subject: Test - just erase
This is just a test to see if I can actually get mail through...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Trudy A. Goold | The Babylon Project was a dream given form...
Toronto, Canada | -Commander Sinclair, B5
tag@a....... | http://www.magic.ca/~tag/Writer's-Haven.html
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:38:52 EST
From: MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Ratings
I have no proof to back this up, and don't know where the info came
from, but according to someone associated with the show, FK got a 6
rating recently.
That's THREE TIMES the rating TriStar said they needed to renew the
show. So if someone can track this down and confirm it, it might be
something else we can put in our letters to Sony.
A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!) Via Internet: gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
*** Help save Forever Knight! Ask me how. ***
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:47:02 -0500
From: Ann Scura <Hatherall@a.......>
Subject: Fledgling on the list!
I've been a long time FK fanatic, but I've only recently
discovered the magic of "lists." Magic, by definition, is a
powerful force which is not comprehensible through normal
means. In other, less dense, words...help! It took me a bit, but I
was finally able to subscribe to this list as well as FKFIC. (Do
those slap on the wrist messages from the server ever stop
smarting?) This fledgling could really use a mentor to show her
the ropes. I have Natpack tendencies with Vaquera leanings
(cravings, whatever). BTW, can anyone tell me why Vaquera(o)
= cowboy represents Vachon?
* Ann Scura (feeling at home already) Hatherall@a....... *
* Master, please hurry, I need you!*
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