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Digest - 11 Feb 1996 - Special issue
Sun, 11 Feb 1996
There are 33 messages totalling 1032 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. A strange thought/Titanic/EEOC? (2)
2. Airing times in NYC?
3. Janette and Nick Request
4. human factor (2)
5. Saint Lacroix (4)
6. What Happened to Phase 2?
7. There can't be more lists
8. Stuph
9. LaCroix's Conscience?
10. Vampires...what else? (2)
11. FK in Santa Barbara, CA
12. Win 95 Desktop theme for FK? (2)
13. Ger in Airwolf & Shakespeare
14. I'M NEW
15. NAPTE
16. SF channel blues
17. Music? (2)
18. The Save FK Webpage
19. Bloooooood and biting
20. Airwolf showings on TNT (2)
21. Letter signing
22. Arlington Quote List
23. YKYBWTMFKW.......
24. SOS: Relax not thy vigilance!
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:16:41 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: A strange thought/Titanic/EEOC?
Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> writes:
>'MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>' wrote:
>>I'm 24 (for another month at least <g>), and none of the things you mention
>>figure in to how I feel about LaCroix. There are some young women who don't
>>find it creepy.
>In my experience, most younger men are incapable of thinking about anything
>but sex.
Hmmm.... I recall hearing this before, you know...
>Older men, on the other hand, have usually gained the capacity to hold an
>intelligent conversation.
>Of course, that conversation is usually about sex, but...
Plus ca change....
>I cheerfully await the arrival of the Gender Stereotype Police <g>
Who, me? :-)
Cousin Will, Sovereign Commander-in-Chief, GSP.
(Commander-in-Chief, chiefly because I'm probably the only one.... :-) )
W.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:30:49 -0500
From: Todd Cooper <todd@v.......>
Subject: Airing times in NYC?
I will be in New York next week. I was wondering if some kind soul
could send me the FK air times for next week? Also I never know when
it is on in Boston or Providence (where I live) Anyone know when it
will be on? WFXT 25 seems to have preempted it for wrestling last
week. and WPRI 10 Providence had it on Sunday morning at 1:35 AM. I
can not tape a moving target :(. For that matter, does any know the
air times for the next 2-3 weeks on USA?
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:30:02 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Janette and Nick Request
Sheesh, that subject looks familiar... <g>. Anyway, this isn't some
plea I will have to apologize for, not at all! Actually it's a question.
Someone (leave name unsaid) sent me a tape and asked me to tape the episodes
I thought were the 6 best Janette and Nick developing episodes. (great
choice!) Well, with my warped mind every single episode is a Janette and
Nick developing episode. (I even found a way to make Hearts of Darkness about
Nick grieving for Janette, yes I am very warped!!!) Could someone a bit more
open-minded tell me which ones would be good?
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:41:59 -0500
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: human factor
In a message dated 96-02-11 11:56:34 EST, you write:
> On what list can we discuss the episode "human factor"
The Spoilers list, but only for discussion *of* the episode. I think you
are aloud to discuss when the ep will be shown on Forkni. And if not,
correct me. (No flames, please? I'm tired of dodging them because of my
mis-informed post on FK-FIC. I can't take any more flames.... A screw it, go
ahead and flame me I'm used to it...) Serisously though, I think that's
right. You just can't say on this list that Janette wa... never mind. You
can't reveal fact about an ep except on Spoiler.
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:25:24 -0700
From: [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: Saint Lacroix
Wicked Cousin Tippi wrote:
>(in mind), but what you really mean to say is he doesn't act for the
>goodwill of *humans*. We've already seen him fight for the survival of
>vampires. He takes care of his own. That's what humans do, yes? We act
>for the welfare of our own species often at the expense of others.
Which is where my "when it suits him" comment comes in. i'm not the
clearest, most concise writer :), sorry. When people (vampires) he cares for
are involved, yes, he'll work towards their well-being. But LC certainly
doesn't run a vampire shelter. We have the Raven as sanctuary thanks to
Janette. Whatever possible 'mothering' role LC's taken on along with
ownership of the club is out of favour to her. He cares for her, if she asks
him, he'll probably do it. He's not going to take care of his race out of
the goodness of his heart, i don't think. Not unless they're faced with
extinction, apocalypse, etc and LC suddenly realizes he doesn't want to be
alone or some such...
He's not going to break the Vampiric code of non-discovery, but that's also
for his own self-interests. Trouble for vampires in general will mean misery
for himself (discovery, having to move just when he's got all of Toronto in
his hand - hey, a sing-along! And what beautiful hands they are!).
And, anyway, he's very cruel to those he loves, even to the point of placing
them in danger. See Sandra for more on this :)
>"cultural relativity" which is basically looking at each culture on its own
>terms. Let's try to do that, shall we? We can't judge the French badly for
That's a very good point and also just something that's going to be a matter
of opinion.
Some of us see vampires as a wholly different species. i happen to believe
that these aren't the animated corpses of the 19th Century tales (not to
suggest that those who see vampires as completely different think they're
mush-brained automatons, or anything :). These guys were human once, they
consort with humans, they speak the same languages... apart from blood lust
(which can be a very jarring difference, yes) they seem very *human* to me.
Humanity is complex. Vampirism is complex. Violence, selfishness, murder,
insanity, blind lust, etc aren't limited to vampires, of course (nor are
they limited to humans - animals will rape, murder, etc too, i hear). They
blend, to me. They overlap. i cannot relate to my rabbits' experience, we
have different brains, different bodies, different consciousnesses. Vampires
and humans seem very close, to me. i think that the extreme variation
between human individuals can be equated to humans/vampires. i believe the
"us and them" thing LC and Janette preached is a willfully-adopted attitude,
not a truth of essence.
Huh? :) i'm sorry this makes no sense but just keep in mind it's another
view, however lacking or contradictory or nonsensical. See? i'm complex!
(Confused, complex, same thing :)
>And all this stuff about Nick having a conscience and feeling guilty about
>killing humans....It's like I have nothing against a society which practices
>ritualized cannibalism, where it is accepted by every member of that society
>as natural and good. But I sure as heck am bothered by someone who
A human culture could exist somewhere which believes violence is just a fact
of life, pursuit of one's self-interest is a fact of life, and just the way
it is (think fictional, futuristic, post-apocalyptic societies). LaCroix
could be an average guy there. idaknow, i just see vampires as an extreme.
They just go and do what they want - they have the power not to be
apprehended. There're us turned up a notch. i guess this ties into that
"beast within" discussion.
It's just a me thing. i don't think the FK vampires are so alien. i fancy i
could imagine what their lives would be like. We all could, we just need to
imagine. (Sheesh, this is sounding like a 60s sing-along intro. Or something
from a Sesame Street album.)
>Hey, I'll take my chances with Lacroix any day! At least I know where I
>stand! ;)
i'd take my chances 'cause i know, whatever he does, whatever his
motivations, intent, discontent, whatever - it'll be exciting, in any case
(to say the very least)!
[Name removed by request]
How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:51:59 -0500
From: Inanna Arthen <Vyrdolak@a.......>
Subject: What Happened to Phase 2?
Felicia Bollin writes:
>I was just thinking the same thing, Scott. That's actually what I was afraid
>of, that increased discussion of things pertaining to FK might overshadow the
>urgency, at least in our minds, of the fact that if we don't do everything we
>can now,
I've also been concerned about the almost total drop-off in SOSFK
activity on the list. It's not that the discussions aren't interesting. But
as Felicia said (past the 4-line quote limit), if FK isn't renewed there will
be no new episodes to discuss -- just the same three seasons, over and over
again, until like ST fans in the 70's we will have exhaustively analyzed
every word of dialogue, every lifted eyebrow and every thread of costuming.
I'm not convinced that we can expect the kind of fan activity that led to ST
movies and three new programs. We'll just turn into cultists, poring over
our old show... a very depressing thought.
NATPE provided a tremendous focus for the SOSFK effort, but it wasn't the
sole focus -- it only evolved into such over time. At first, the emphasis
was on massive letter-writing to USA to convince them that there were more
viewers than they were taking into account. After a few weeks, USA came to
been seen as a lost cause and the emphasis switched to Sony, then down a
notch to TriStar. As it became known that TriStar listened to syndicators
buying the show, we began to (increasingly) target syndicators. The idea was
proposed to meet/beat/double Sony's donation to the Pediatric AIDS
foundation, to show what kind of good doobies we are. As the NATPE plans
developed, all the excitement over them became a sort of vortex. But once
NATPE was over, it seemed that no one was sure just what to do next. Many
people had become tired of writing letters or had run out of people to write
to.
But more than that, there seemed to be a sort of *fatalism* onlist. My
impression -- and I beg anyone with better information to correct me onlist,
so I don't mislead anyone here -- my impression is that TriStar basically
indicated to us after NATPE, "Okay, folks, we're impressed, and we hear you
-- but it's a cold, cruel business out here, and we *have* to see those
numbers, or it's no go." This left us with the sense that we had no
recourse, because the only real way to save the show is to get the ratings
up, and what control do we have over ratings? We might as well wish for the
sun to rise in the West or for pigs to fly. So we all patted ourselves on
the back for our flyers and bags and letters, continued to make some efforts
if we thought of something we hadn't covered, and mostly settled down to wait
out the February sweeps -- without much optimism that I can detect.
It seems to me that a real "Phase 2" effort must concentrate on raising
the ratings, more than on further letter-writing to TPTB. While this might
seem impossible, the key to getting ratings up is *publicity*. An effort to
bring FK and the SOSFK effort to people's attention will arouse curiosity.
People who have never even heard of the show and might be interested will
tune it in to see what all the fuss is about. I think that FK is one of the
most handicapped shows I've ever seen -- I've never seen it promoted, outside
of its brief stint on USA, TV Guide usually doesn't print episode
descriptions, it's frequently buried in time slots which surround it with
infomercials and hoary old reruns. Viewers tend to stumble across the show
by accident. It's little wonder that it doesn't get great ratings.
It would be great to crack the "big guys" and get written up by TV
Guide, the NYT, EW or whatever. But barring this, there are other
alternatives for getting the word out quickly -- things that won't bust your
budget. Flyers are one way: but try putting broadcast info on your flyer,
suggesting when and where people can watch the show. Target small local
newspapers. Write a letter to the editor -- small papers often will print
almost anything. Place small classified ads. You'd be amazed how many
people read those. The idea should be to try to attract the attention of as
many people as possible to the SOSFK effort, the show, and the times it can
be seen, and urge people to watch. Inevitably, we'll hit some Neilsen
customers.
I haven't seen the flyers available to download -- the one I designed
said right on it, "Ratings are Important: Watch "Forever Knight" this month.
Let USA or WFXT know you watched and tell them how much you enjoy the show."
Along with the phone calling and letter writing we're urging people to do,
we also need to be getting the word out to watch the show. We'd probably be
appalled at how many people out there have never even *heard* of FK,
including people who'd love it. The flyers are a good start, but they have
primarily been directed at people who already know the show -- people at
media cons, comic book and gaming stores, and so on. That's appropriate if
our object is to inform current viewers of the threat to the show and get
them writing. But a broader scope is needed to attract new viewers, and
that's what we need now. *That's* what "Phase 2" should be all about.
JMHO,
Cyfnither Inanna
vyrdolak@a.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:57:48 -0500
From: Samantha Smiley <MaraJade00@a.......>
Subject: Re: There can't be more lists
If there were all these lists. Then what would we talk about on this list?
Hmmmmmm........?
Jade(Samantha S.)-
Mercenary recruit
"Why would I want to live a normal life when
everything in life isn't normal(at least where I live)?"-ME.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:56:34 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Stuph
Heather Thornburg
>USA is going to be showing Human Factor tonight!
Huh?!?!?! I thought USA wasn't showing new episodes, only the local
stations were??
Nightmist@g.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:26:20 -0500
From: zillah <zillah@i.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix's Conscience?
On February 10th Sandra Gray wrote:
>Personally, I didn't buy that LC loved Fleur. He was certainly interested,
>maybe even infatuated with her. But he expressed *hatred* of having feelings
>for her to Nick.
At this point if LaCroix was only infatuated with Fleur instead of deeply
in love with her, it makes no difference. What matters is *he* thought he
was in love with her and will always act according to his personal ethic. I
will concede that had he brought her across they may or may not have
continued in the same deep emotional attachment... but we can never know
now.
As for his hatred of his emotion, it's not so unheard of a thing. I have
also felt emotions that I haven't liked, but have had to deal with all the
same. Part of the challenge of existence, mortal and immortal alike.
=== Take It Light ===
___________________________________________________________
.Cousin Zillah.
.zillah@i........
"I was just thinking about the immortal words of Socrates when he said: 'I
just drank what?' "
___________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:19:53 -0500
From: Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires...what else?
Sandra Gray said:
>I'd say that if Nick reinserted extracted fangs, they would reattach
>themselves in his jaw. I don't think he could regrow a new set. If
>that were possible, Vachon would have just regrown a new hand instead
>of having to go back to find his hand.
It might be that regrowing body parts takes a lot longer than
merely healing wounds. Vachon might just have been sparing
himself the annoyance of being one-handed for several weeks.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:20:57 -0800
From: Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: FK in Santa Barbara, CA
Does anyone know when FK and Highlander is shown in Santa Barbara, California?
I'll be at a con next weekend and want to have an FK Con party at that time.
Thanks,
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:25:29 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Win 95 Desktop theme for FK?
I've seen one for Babylon 5... noises, wallpaper, etc.
Has anyone seen a desktop theme set for Forever Knight? If so, where
can I find it/download it? It's for hubby's computer...
nightmist@g.......
s
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:52:41 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Ger in Airwolf & Shakespeare
Hi all --
Devoted Ger fan that I am, I'd be willing to put up with lots of *bad*
television to see more Ger. So, since I can't seem to find Airwolf at
all in my TV Guide, can someone either:
(a) Tell me where I might find it on the East Coast (it's not on TNT here,
as far as I can tell, and I don't get WWOR)
(b) Trade tapes with me if you have the Ger episodes of Airwolf on tape?
Please reply off-list to the e-mail address below. Many thanks!
BTW, you all *did* catch Bea Quindlen's announcement last week about Ger's
performance in Taming of the Shrew in Toronto April 25, 26, and 27th,
right? If not, you can e-mail me off-list and I'll forward the
information to you. I'll offer to organize the Philadelphia-area carpool
(two in the car so far, room for one or two more). I think a car is going
from NYC as well, but I don't know who's in charge of that one. Marcia
Tucker (ScFiMarci@a.......) seems to be organizing the Chicago-area
contingent.
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* __o -- Have angst, will travel -- *
* _`\<,_ Now planning the Forever Knight charity bike tour! *
* (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html *
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:32:37 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: I'M NEW
Welcome!
Now turn your <CAP LOCKS> button off. We know you're excited, but you don't
need to SHOUT (vampires and their fans have very good hearing).
Do you have a favorite character of all the ones you've seen? If so, this
would dictate your faction affiliation. (Nick - Knighties, LaCroix -
Cousins, Natalie - NatPackers, Tracy - Perkulators, Vachon -
Vaquera/Vaquero, Janette - Raven/Ravenette, Screed - RatPack) Of course
there are the people who refuse to choose - Die Hards, and then the ones who
refuse to choose but will pretend for a while if you give them enough
chocolate - Mercs (short for mercenaries).
But you don't have to choose now, or ever. Just hang back, you'll figure
out where your true feelings lie.
I assume that since you are such an FK addict, that you have written to each
of the powers every day since the beginning of January. Support your habit,
keep writing those letters.
Bonnie, Vaquera & Heartbreaker
(bonnie@o.......)-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
"Let me run with you tonight, I'll take you on a moonlight ride"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:24:36 -0600
From: Mark/Mary Baker <mabaker@t.......>
Subject: NAPTE
Just got a notice from the SF News list on the huge impact the FK "bunch"
had at the NAPTE (I think I remember the initials correctly). I have been
no mail on the list for personal reasons for some time now but wanted to
compliment and say thanks from one fan on the impression you made.
Mary mabaker@t.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:25:47 -0600
From: Christy Tucker <ctucker@m.......>
Subject: Re: SF channel blues
At 04:54 PM 2/11/96 -0500, Jon Saul wrote:
>P.S. Did any other Classics majors get a kick of LC's background? : )
As a history major, I got a huge kick out of LaCroix's back ground. I have
a thing for Roman generals; Julius Caesar is one of my favorite historical
figures, if not the favorite. It just makes Uncle even more appealing as a
character for me.
And speaking of Uncle and his Roman general days, would anyone happen to
know whatever happened to Divia? She made LaCroix a vampire...okay...well
what happened after that? Is she still alive or has she met an untimely
vampire demise?
Christy
PS I think I'm a cousin.
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"no sir, i am dead."
"that is serious. may i help?"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:55:02 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Music?
On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Loose Cannon wrote:
>What music did you use to inspire you to write? I.e. the name of the cd
>or tape, and the artist.
>Thank you,
>Barbara
Would any one be surprised right now if I said:
anything by Tom Petty
Yes, the man is a god. (Too bad he's so gawky looking.) He even mentions
vampires in "Free Fallin'" and he's got a song called "Zombie Zoo." Tell me
this man isn't speaking to us. By then I am biased, being his new drummer
and all... well, yeah, it was just a dream, but... so?
Bonnie, Vaquera & Heartbreaker
(bonnie@o.......)-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
"Let me run with you tonight, I'll take you on a moonlight ride"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:32:29 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: human factor
Someone wrote that USA is going to show "Human Factor" tonight,
2/11/96--I checked the weekly listing for USA--nothing. Does someone
have a time? My current tiem is : 5:32p Alaska Standard Time.
Also, someone wrote that TNT is showing "Airwolf." This is Ted Turner's
TNT, yes? Again, no listing for the show. I am confused>
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:29:04 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: The Save FK Webpage
I've updated and streamlined the web page; added current charity & NATPE
reports. Cruise by and see what you think... you know the URL.
--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:24:58 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: A strange thought/Titanic/EEOC?
On Feb 11, 1996 17:16:41, 'Will Steeves <goid@i.......>' wrote:
>Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> writes:
>>'MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>' wrote: (6 lines)
Violation of Quote Rule, Will. When I get to Toronto, I shall deny you
your biscuit. <g>
>>I cheerfully await the arrival of the Gender Stereotype Police <g>
>Who, me? :-)
>Cousin Will, Sovereign Commander-in-Chief, GSP.
Actually, where I'm from, that makes you the Commander in Chief of the
Garden State Parkway. Which I'm not sure is a designation anyone would
particularly want.
--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:00:59 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Bloooooood and biting
>> I suspect Vachon . . . well, we don't know *where* that mouth has been!
><feverishly imagining where that mouth has been....>
Funny, I thought you'd be feverishly imagining where that mouth should be. <wkg>
Bonniella, Vaquera & Heartbreaker
(bonnie@o.......)-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
"Let me run with you tonight, I'll take you on a moonlight ride"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:08:38 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Airwolf showings on TNT
>TNT? I can't find any mention of TNT showing Airwolf anywhere in my TV
DOH! My mistake. Most humble apologies! <sheepish simper>
Airwolf is on WWOR at 4pm PCT.
I WILL post when (if) they start showing the Ger eps. Promise.
Do I have to do FKFIC-L penance again? What comes after an epilogue? How
about "The Adventures of Javier Vachon and Tracy in Never Never Land"? (Urs
can play Tinkerbell)
Bonniella, Vaquera & Heartbreaker
(bonnie@o.......)-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
"Let me run with you tonight, I'll take you on a moonlight ride"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:55:06 -0800
From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires...what else?
Sandra Gray wrote:
> I'd say that if Nick reinserted extracted fangs, they would reattach
> themselves in his jaw. I don't think he could regrow a new set. If
> that were possible, Vachon would have just regrown a new hand instead
> of having to go back to find his hand.
Perhaps that was a time saving thing....
It would seem to me it would take quite a bit of time to make sure you had
all the "bits" back. He got -blown up-. Pardon my being gross, but there
would be an awful lot of LITTLE pieces to find. Personal theory...the hand
was easy to find (as well as being a good plot device). If the little bits
can grow back, so could fangs. It would probably take longer, bone being
denser than flesh.
What's the ep with LaCroix in the war? Same scenario. Vamps couldn't be
killed in the war, but they could get some bits hacked off.
--
Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d.......
GDFN Help Staff | Mercenary for Chocolate
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:10:31 -0600
From: Ninianne <copelasa@v.......>
Subject: Re: Win 95 Desktop theme for FK?
At 07:25 PM 11-02-96 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone seen a desktop theme set for Forever Knight? If so, where
>can I find it/download it? It's for hubby's computer...
Well if you see a Theme, I'm interested. I also have a load screen bundled
with some Highlander screens on my web page.
Samantha
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:20:15 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Saint Lacroix
On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, [Name removed by request] wrote:
>
> A human culture could exist somewhere which believes violence is just a fact
> of life, pursuit of one's self-interest is a fact of life, and just the way
> it is (think fictional, futuristic, post-apocalyptic societies).
Think Washington D.C.
Laura,
geezerly Vaquera and Perkulator,
former employee of 2 Senators, 3 Congressman,
on her 5th President as an employee of the Executive Branch,
and gearing up for Iowa and New Hampshire results...
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:26:01 -0600
From: Marvin Wry <mwry@e.......>
Subject: Re: Letter signing
<delurk>
On Sat, 10 Feb 1996, Lisa wrote:
> In fact, it's just occurred to me that my six cats watch the show with
> me and five of them will do as names on letters. I'm not sure even USA
> would be dumb enough to fall for "Mocha" McDavid as someone's name. :)
> Tizzie, Libby, Lucius, Lowman and Lionel are genuine people names so I'll
> have to crank up the old WordPerfect ....
Perhaps you could just sign it M. McDavid... :)
Teresa
<re-lurk>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:27:55 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Saint Lacroix
Stephania wrote:
> This aludes to Tippi's "cultural
>relativity" remark. Since LaCroix believes other vampires are people,
>wouldn't killing one be an immoral act, even for him? Has the FK ever shown
>him killing another vampire?
I don't know if Lacroix's ever been shown killing another vampire, but we've
seen Nick kill them, or at least try. When Nick killed other vampires, he
did so because they were harming a member of the human community. If Lacroix
killed one of his own kind, he'd probably do it for what he would consider
the "greater good" of the vampire community. Kind of like how human
vigilantes search out and hunt down rapists and murderers because they think
they're helping society as a whole. Not to compare Lacroix to vigilantes,
mind you, which are a spooky lot. Or consider the alpha wolf who kills a
younger wolf who is stealing food from its pack members or otherwise harming
the group as a whole. I think it's a definite possibility (probability?)
that Lacroix's moral code includes the option to kill those vampires (and
humans) he sees as a danger to his own kind.
And then, after wreaking his vengeance, he'll stop to utter one of his
chillingly eloquent soliloquys. ;) (Did I even come close to spelling
soliloquy??)
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:40:01 -0800
From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>
Subject: Re: Saint Lacroix
[Name removed by request] wrote:
> are involved, yes, he'll work towards their well-being. But LC certainly
> doesn't run a vampire shelter. We have the Raven as sanctuary thanks to
> Janette. Whatever possible 'mothering' role LC's taken on along with<snip
> him, he'll probably do it. He's not going to take care of his race out of
> the goodness of his heart, i don't think. Not unless they're faced with
There's a bit from a story by the WebGoddess herself that sums up LaCroix on
this issue fairly well to me....
----------
Stopped by his place the other night, mostly because I was between dividend
checks and running low on cash, and in need of a drink, and I didn't want
to have to ask the General for credit -- he'd do it, 'cause if we have one
ironclad rule, it's that you don't let your brethren go hungry -- but I
didn't want to deal with the aura of contempt he'd project.
-----------
It seemed "true" to character. Don't let them starve, but make sure they pay
one way or another.
--
Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d.......
GDFN Help Staff | Mercenary for Chocolate
Save Forever Knight! Site for details:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:52:15 -0600
From: Perri Smith <perridox@i.......>
Subject: Arlington Quote List
ARLINGTON HUMAN FACTOR PARTY
compiled by Perri, et al.
*********
Okay, obviously we watched Human Factor, and the latest Highlander
episode. Many Cousins were present, and far too few Knighties. <g> Quotes
which involve possible spoilers are at the bottom, with spoiler space.
*********
My car. *My* car. My *car*. *My* car.
I felt I had to have my obligatory Cousin moment, so I made S and M's.
Nick would probably carry it around in a hatbox.
The Fang Gang list
It's about time you Knighties were outnumbered. (Yeah!)
Oh my God. That was Stan. Stan's on the screen.
That girl was on Flipper last week.
When something doesn't make sense, it's the Compelling Dramatic Device.
Don't all of his girlfriends just live in the Apartment Building of the
Damned?
What's she doing?
She's angsting.
She's patting a load of bricks.
Fangs!
Then Duncan bites her because it turns out he's been having an affair
with Janette.
What's Screed doing there?
Apparently if you stop at a traffic light, you must immediately regress
2000 years.
I get behind people like that all the time.
Are you sure you're not a Cousin?
Just like a Knightie - denying your true nature.
Someone made it just in the nick of time.
Or in the Janette of time?
I've been spoiled. I feel so violated.
You're a Knightie, you can rationalize anything.
That was bad.
We're not gonna get much better.
[Insert rendition of Texas A&M Fight Song]
Yeach!
Well, that was hideous.
Robert, can I borrow your thingy?
I don't know, that's kind of personal.
It's a Mingee thingee.
On Forever Knight, if your name starts with an Sc, you're pretty much a
goner.
Richard Simmons as a vampire. Why does that scare me so deeply?
He and Tracy would get along perfectly.
They did the Vulcan thing with LaCroix's eyebrows.
So she only plays snuggle-bunnies with serial killers.
Dark Knighties.
So maybe it's a one-size-fits-all fang thing.
SPOILERS....
[In unison] Oh my God, she's wearing denim!
Ravenettes all over the world just screamed in horror.
Did you see the lightbulb go on over her head?
There's more Ravenettes passing out.
Where are they?
The Civic Center.
Don't you expect to see like, Knighties and Vaqueros come through,
chasing after Vachon?
Tracy's trying to think -- this could be painful.
You can see the hamsters running around in her head.
These two define the term 'old flame'.
And her firefighter is the 'new flame.'
He's flamed out
The floating LaCroix was a bit weird. It was like, where are the roller
blades?
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:54:06 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: Music?
On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Loose Cannon wrote:
>What music did you use to inspire you to write? I.e. the name of the cd
>or tape, and the artist.
Classical, just about anything classical. Music helps keep me sane
while I'm trying to write, but if it's something catchy I know the
words to, I can't think of anything else :-)
Whatever's on KUSC...
or tapes... recently "Opera's Greatest Love Songs" and Faure's Requiem
Mass (I just *love* this one-- the Agnus Dei... <shivers!> :-)...
Sounds very fitting, I suppose... but actually it isn't really a mood
thing... I've written more _funny_ stuff listening to that Requiem... <g>
Dianne
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
-*-"We must be powerful, beautiful, and without regret."-*-
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:58:16 -0500
From: Jill Marie Spetoskey <jilkey@u.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW.......
You Know You've been watching too much FK When....
You're catching up on issues of The Blood Horse (A weekly magazine
devoted to Thoroughbred racing) when you notice a horse named Vashon
listed in the "horses to watch at Gulfstream" section, and then find
yourself deeply disappointed that Vashon is a filly, but still wonder if
her mane and tail are combed on a regular basis.
Then you start going through the rest of the issue and come up with for
Nick: Nichloas(a stallion ad) Rare Brick (stallion ad) and Notagoldbrick
(earnings leaders)
Screed: Once a Sailor (stakes winners section)
Jill Marie
jilkey@u.......
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:25:49 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Airwolf showings on TNT
Hurmmph! bonnie <;p>
Yes, you must be punished--mmm--I love this part. You must provide duped
tapes of Airwolf for all. YES! the Spirit of LaCroix is with me at this
moment.
Well, give it a thought, but only if we folks pay for tape and postage.
<G><G><:)>
just waiting for Human factor to show and being silly while doing it,
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 23:45:45 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: SOS: Relax not thy vigilance!
Laurie Salopek writes:
>Is anyone keeping a record of those who have contacted
>syndies and what the replies were?
That would be me. That is, I have the quotes from the stations who did
respond in an affirmative manner, don't know if I remember who sent them. I
would post them to the list, but if I do, I fear people will read them and
relax even further! Aaagh!!! <G>
<Resident FORKNI-L SOS-Bitch x mode ON> _Mes amis_, we have a definitive
*fourteen* I have been made aware of, not counting the one Diane Rayno most
recently posted. FOURTEEN!!!! Out of *all the TV stations which air FK*!!!
And one of them is running first season! Sorry to yell, but We Cannot
Accept This!!! Yes, I know there are a lot of folks out there not connected
to the Internet who may be getting positive responses, but we can't afford to
rest or back down now. Treat the end of February as OUR LAST REPRIEVE!!! As
of last communique which mentioned the topic, Fred M. still maintained that
the set would be struck as of then! Any time we get above and beyond this
should be seen as icing on the cake, not something we're counting on
getting!! Please!!!! I'm begging, and Ravenettes never *do* that! <Bitch
mode OFF>
<taking deep breath <G>). The list of favorably respondant stations I have
received follows.
WBNS (Columbus, OH), NTV (the Canadian station), WTVG (Toledo, OH), KPDX
(Portland, OR), WGNT (Virginia Beach, VA), WNYW (New York, NY), WPIX (New
York, NY), WUHF (Rochester, NY), WBRC (Birmingham, AL), WBBM (Chicago, IL),
WKYW (Philadelphia, PA), KDAF (Dallas, TX), WKEF (Dayton, OH).
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Naturally Nervous Ravenette*Immortal Beloved
(newest Save FK FAQ upcoming)
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