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Digest - 9 Feb 1996 - Special issue
Fri, 9 Feb 1996
There are 32 messages totalling 1017 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Nick's Addiction
2. muzzle it! (4)
3. Vampires...what else?
4. Children's Crusade
5. too much fanfic
6. just some thoughts/questions
7. Thank You!
8. Percentage of water/blood in the human/vampire body (2)
9. EM advertisement
10. Affil/Party Favor/Fan Q's/ Etc.
11. Vachon: Growing up?
12. Houston Party (1/26) Quote List
13. Bloooooood and biting (3)
14. A Fascinating New Topic
15. Acronyms (2)
16. KCTV (channel 5 in Kansas City)
17. Help!
18. Response from PAF
19. CHARITY: New Total
20. Tracy hawks vitamins!
21. Religion, Knights, and Vampires oh my!
22. Unwellness Love & Nick's Wants
23. Mass Murderers?
24. SPOILER GVP / Re:acronyms
25. A "Goodies" Idea
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:01:37 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's Addiction
I don't think Nick *bit* those Germans in "1966" either. I think
he just killed them. We've seen Nick vamp out to catch criminals.
Same thing, imo.
I think the original question was why Nick has been shown *drinking*
human blood when it was said he had given up on it 100 years ago,
wasn't it?
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:03:55 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: muzzle it!
Yes, but what kind of muzzle do you use on a guy who can rip the
door off a locked safe?
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
A better bet would be for Nat to shoot Nick up with some litovuterine. ;)
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:11:09 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: muzzle it!
Following Tippi, Stephanie wrote:
> came to my mind was to put a cage on Nick's head like they used on Hannibal
> Lechter in _Silence of the Lambs_. If he were also handcuffed to prevent
> him from breaking any necks, than his human lover would probably survive
> the episode (provided she didn't die laughing).
I take it you folk are not on JADFE? <vwg>
(For those who are interested (and of appropriate age), may I recommend
Ophelia5's "Physical Therapy" as an excellent treatment of this theme...
although no muzzle _per se_... :-)
Dianne
(who can't help but think that getting Nick de-fanged would be more akin to
getting a cat *fixed*, no? <wg>... oh o.k... I've been on JADFE too long...)
The Once-Again-Mad Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD
"Are you okay?" "I think I'm just a _little_ over-caffeinated."
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:23:25 -0500
From: Hugo Trepanier <pio@m.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires...what else?
Hi all!
Hilary wrote:
> Hi...a quick question, brought on by an immenent visit to the dentist
> <shudder>...d'you suppose vampires get cavities?
I personally don't think that vampires can have cavities. But, I'd like to
mention an interesting fact: (don't read if you haven't seen Sons of Belial)
In "Sons of Belial", during the exorcism scene, Nick opens his mouth wide,
and this reveals tooth filling! Geraint has cavities, not Nick. So this is
a little error of the FK team! :)
Thought I would share...
Hugo Trepanier
pio@m.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:29:12 -0500
From: k s gritten <kg244989@o.......>
Subject: Re: Children's Crusade
On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 Cousin Lisa scribbled
>
> Why do I have this vision of Nick finally getting back home to Brabant
> and being taken out to the woodshed by his father for running away to
> lead the Crusade in the first place? :)
>
Actually, in a lecture last week, the prof. mentioned that the
father of Nicholas of Cologne (who led the German contingent of
the Children's Crusade) was reputedly lynched by a mob in Cologne
who didn't like all those strange goings-on...
Just a little tidbit from the pseudo-historian :)
--kg
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kg244989@o....... NatPacker!
Saint (n)--a dead sinner, revised and edited
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:46:45 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: too much fanfic
You know you've been trying to write too much fanfic lately when the
following happens:
A while ago, my friend Lyn downloaded a virtual reality dog onto her
computer. She named it Galadriel after a new vamp character we created. In
addition, Lyn inserted a dog just like her computer buddy into the story
we were writing. One day, recently, Lyn discovered that she couldn't boot
up Galadriel the dog when she wanted to play with her. There was a glitch.
She said that Gala, as she called the dog for short, had gone to computer
dog heaven. I said "Well, at least she'll live on in fanfic." :) :)
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:33:47 -0500
From: "Carma A. Singleton" <carmas@v.......>
Subject: just some thoughts/questions
Felicia Bollin says:
>ROTFL!!! Tami, am I ever gonna be free of what I did to you and "Miki",
>whatever it might exactly be? <G> (It's a War Five reference, for those who
>didn't participate).
I have to sheepishly admit that I've been on the list about 5 months and I
still don't get all the acronyms. Sometimes I can make an educated guess,
but ROTFL!! still eludes me. Can anyone clear up my foggy understanding?
Felicia B. says (all of this is taken from the 2-7-96 digest) about what
Nick should do for Nat to prove his love:
>1.) Take her out, *in public*.
Another point I'm clueless about. I live in southwest Virginia, admittedly
in the boonies, but I was wondering where they would go if they did date?
If Nick and Nat both work the night shift (I'm assuming 12-8 a.m. which is
the normal third shift where I come from, or maybe 8 p.m.-4 a.m. in Nick's
case, since he has to get in his hours from dusk 'til dawn), when are they
supposed to go out for a "nice" date? What's open in Toronto when and where
it's dark enough not to fry Nick, safe enough to not have to rescue Natalie
from the other patrons, and private enough so no one notices the pale guy
who doesn't eat. I guess they'd have to go out on some night when neither
of them has to work, but I don't think I've ever seen Nick on a day when he
had an entire day off. What would he do with that much free time if he's
not dating Natalie? In which case, he's taking her out, we just don't get
to see it. I wonder what they're doing?
Felicia says:
>2.) Say, "*I love you*.
>
>No ifs, ands, or buts. "I care about you" is not acceptable in this case.
I agree with this. I remember hearing him say that on some episode and
thinking, "What a copout! Natalie, honey, go find someone to fall in love
with. Nick would still care about you, and at least you'd be getting more
emotional support than you do now, and you wouldn't be spending all your
spare time giving almost everything to someone who can't or won't give
anything back."
Carma (who promises she's going back to lurking)
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:36:15 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: muzzle it!
I agree with Dianne's assessment of the fic "Physical Therapy." If one
selects to read it, please--do not read it in public! Hot!
Barbara
Nick Knight--vampire with a halo
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 16:37:33 +0200
From: Kimby <STUHIGGINKG@m.......>
Subject: Thank You!
Hello again,
The other day I sent my first post to this list and included a story
idea involving Nick possibly being an ancestor of Tracy. I received
two very nice replys. Unfortunately, shortly afterwards my mailer
went "wonky" and I lost a lot of mail--including those two messages!
I don't remember who sent them or if they came by way of the list or
as private e-mail. So, I would like to thank you (whoever you were)
on-list--if no one minds!
Firstly: To the Nice Person who suggested that I try to write the
story--thank you for your lovely words of encouragement! I'll really
think about it, really, really hard! Maybe another story idea(I already
have another!) if not this one.
Secondly: To the Nice Person who actually asked me(!!!) if she/he could
use my idea to write a story--Go For It!!! I would like to see what you
could do with it(besides, it would take me a long time to get around to
it my self).
Thanks all, for your patience.
Kimby(stuhigginkg@m.......)
Learning E-Mail The Hard Way
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:02:54 -0500
From: Hugo Trepanier <pio@m.......>
Subject: Percentage of water/blood in the human/vampire body
Hi all!
I'm sorry, but I think this post is completely off-topic.
Some of you folks have been discussing about why vampires would have blood
tears. I've seen many interesting answers, but I must let you know that
someone made a small mistake. They said the body was composed of 90% water,
thus suggesting that a vampire's body would be composed of blood in a
similar percentage. This is wrong! In school, I learned that the body is
made around 70% water, which, I think, makes more sense. 90% is way too
much. I may be wrong, but I looked back at my notes from Biology courses,
and that's the answer I got.
I told you this was off-topic, but I wanted to say that anyway. :)
<now going back to a 300+ messages inbox!>
Hugo Trepanier
pio@m.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:13:30 U
From: Celeste Hotaling-Lyons <celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......>
Subject: EM advertisement
Subject: Time:6:08 PM
OFFICE MEMO EM advertisement Date:2/9/96
Lynne Stapleton said:
>I was wondering if I could recieve a copy of the NATPE magazine
with regard to the EM article and ad.
Can't help with the article or a magazine, but I can help with the
advertisment. In fact, let me repeat what I posted once before for those who
might have missed it: I can send anyone a perfect copy of the ad, the same
one I sent EM, if you send me SASE. I can print it off letter sized (8.5 by
11) and the original NATPE-ad ledger size (I think that's 11 by 16.) Just let
me know which one you want and make sure your SASE is the correct size for
what you want. If you send me a teensy little envelope and ask for the
biggie-sooper-sized ad, I'll have to fold it up really small, and the postage
won't be enough.
Celeste Hotaling-Lyons
[Address removed]
Cousine Celeste
celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:14:55 -0500
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Affil/Party Favor/Fan Q's/ Etc.
1. Affiliation pins ARE still available. Send a padded, self-addressed
envelope to me (snail mail, obviously) with a note stating your affiliation.
If you don't have my address (good God, isn't it <everywhere> by now?), feel
free to drop me e-mail.
2. The last part of the party favor has been posted early because my local
ISP if offline 9:00 PM Friday to 1:00 AM for scheduled maintenance. Thanks
to everyone for all of their support and reaction to the party favors. And
if the web counter is at all accurate, I hote sufficient letters have been
generated.
3. I've attached the list of Forever Knight fan fiction eligible for the
1995 Fan Q awards to my web site for your viewing and downloading pleasure.
I will be happy to send you the nomination form by snail mail (not
e-produced forms allowed). The deadline is supposed to be 2/15/96, but that
was when the regular mailing of the forms was supposed to be in the
MediaWest*Con progress report, which still hasn't been mailed . . . so there
might be an extension. But just in case, email me for sorms as soon as
possible and get those nominations in. If we don't nominate, we don't make
the ballot and there will be no award for Forever Knight fiction this year.
4. There's a lovely listing of Forever Knight at the YPN (Your Personal
Network) site at http://www.ypn.com/trek/a256.html
But under fan fiction, they say "Check out the wealth of material generated
by lady of the Knight Susan Garrett."
*Ahem*
I was, am, and always will be a most faithful RAVENETTE. Public notices and
Toronto telephone operators not withstanding.
5. As long as we're talking about people to buy FK, why not drop a note to
Sam Raimi at Ren. as someone suggested? Sam's going great guns with his
current stuff and FK might just be inexpensive enough to warrant a look
(especially if we're doing the publicity). The address is:
Renaissance Pictures
[Address removed]
Regards
When we get a fourth season, the hair GOES.
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:38:28 -0500
From: Stephania Hyde <Step68@a.......>
Subject: Vachon: Growing up?
In an earlier message I said (to summarize) that Nick needed to become human
so that he would stop feeling the need to kill people. Since he feels that
people are PEOPLE, he would have to stop feeling the need to kill them before
he could be redeemed. LaCroix, on the other hand, views people more as
snacks, and thus does not feel that he needs to be redeemed. In reply, Nancy
Fralic writes:
>But where does that leave Vachon, who has told Tracy that he has had to
>deal with being the one left behind, having lost many mortal friends?
Ooh, good question! I'll throw in my $.02 on this one. I (personally) view
Vachon as still being in the "adolescent" phase of being a vampire, you know,
the phase where if something feels good you just do it. At the adolescent
phase in a human being, we all seem to get self-absorbed (I know what I'm
doing, nobody understands me, etc.). Few of us stop to think of the
ramifications of our actions during that time of our life; if we want to do
something, we do it and to h*ll with the consequences. I feel like Vachon is
in that phase of his vampiric life.
I also think Vachon is coming out of this phase. He finally faced up to his
responsibility to the Inca, a very grown-up thing to do. He also made some
comment to the effect of "do you ever long for the days when you could see
something (a pretty girl) like that and just take her?". That comment
implies to me that he realizes he can't just do whatever he wants to, without
culpability or regret. I think he is on the verge of manhood
(vampire-hood?).
Now, let me ask y'all a question or two. I've never seen the first or second
season, but I understand that some of the flashbacks show Nick when he was in
a "Happy Hunter" type phase (I'm a vampire and not ashamed of it!). This
sounds like the same kind of "adolescent" phase as I see Vachon going
through. Are there any similarities between Vachon now and Nick as he was?
Also, if Vachon is on the verge of becoming a grown-up, do you think he will
become like LaCroix, Nick, or some other type of individual altogether?
Discuss!
Stephania,
A Nick&Nat-Packer who never realized she had such Vaquero (sp?) tendancies
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:01:10 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: muzzle it!
Torrey writes:
> LOL I almost died when I read this. I am still ROTF! Can you imagine
>the fan-fic for this one! I may just be tempted.
Too late, Torrey! :) I already started one -- but you'll only see it on
JADFE! ;) (Of course, I think there is always room for stories like this, so
if you wanna write it, we may create a whole new genre of fanfic!!)
I wonder if Nick would be the one to suggest its use... or would Nat? (Or
would Uncle? Oh, but that's a whoooooole 'nother story and this is a pg-13
list!)
Wicked Cousin Tippi
TippiNB@a.......
"Only saints can fall from grace, because devils have already hit rock
bottom."
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:01:17 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Houston Party (1/26) Quote List
Amy Denton wrote:
>"If he bites her, he'll let all the air out."
Tippi, in a sing-song chant says: I remember that one! I remember that one!
Tee hee! Although when I read it just now (it *has* been two weeks since the
party and my brain is getting forgetful these days) I had the mental image of
Nick biting an *inflatable doll*. Then I remembered it was said in
referrence to a scene between Tracy and Vachon in Fever. Wasn't it? This is
starting to tie into the whole muzzle scenario, you know, and I just know
there's some seriously demented fanfic in all this...
Wicked Cousin Tippi
"I'm not just *all* butts and calendars, ya know."
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:37:37 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Bloooooood and biting
Laura wrote:
:please correct) to bleed out from a severed huge artery (carotid or the
:brachial? in the thigh).
Femoral is the thigh artery. Brachial is the arm (the one felt at the bend
in the elbow).
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:00:05 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: A Fascinating New Topic
Wow, Cassie, when you introduce a topic, you really introduce a topic!
Cassie Carter writes:
>What other shows...has JP produced and/or written?
In watching SciFi Channel, I noticed that JP produce (and has written
for) The Invisible Man series that starred David McCallum. I don't
know what else he's been involved with outside of FK. Bedard and
Lalonde of FK used to work on Beauty and the Beast. Gillian Horvath
works on Highlander.
>What is the overall significance of superhuman characters whose
>superhuman powers must remain secret?
Maybe people would like to think that they are different from other
people, special in some way? Humans have a tendency to think they
are the highest form of life around. Maybe it feeds our egos a bit
to imagine that we are even better than we think we are? :)
>Why are such characters so *appealing*, whether or not they use
>their powers for "good deeds"?
Because they're fun? There are people who don't care to watch
science fiction, fantasy, horror or other films/tv that have any
sort of "strange" characters in them so I think that to some extent
appeal depends on a person's personality. Some people like the
exercise in imagination such characters can create. I know that in
my case, the "stranger" shows have always appealed to me and
within the science fiction framework, I usually am more attracted
to the *alien* characters (or the "robotic" in the case of Data
on TNG) rather than the ordinary humans. It's fun to try to put
oneself into the "alien" frame of mind and existence.
>*why* do we find these characters so interesting?
Well, I sort of said why *I* did above. I wonder whether people who
enjoy more "realistic" drama find things like vampires, aliens,
Superman, whatever as interesting.
>Where do we draw the line when we decide we *don't* like a superhuman
>character?
I think that depends on a person's own moral sensibilities and
variates from person to person. For instance, I *hate* LC, mostly
because I view his deliberate selfishness in trying to make Nick
what he wants him to be as evil. He has shown no compunction in
torturing Nick or trying to undermine Nick's moral sensibilities in
order to achieve that aim of making Nick *his* sort of vampire.
>To what extent does the "rightness" or "wrongness" of a superhuman
>character's use of his/her powers determine whether we like them?
I personally don't like superhuman characters who use their powers
to engage in wanton destruction for the sole purpose of lording it
over those who don't have those powers. That doesn't mean, though,
that I don't think such characters can't have their use to a story.
Often they're characters I like to hate. ;) If every superhuman
character was a good guy, things would get very boring. I used to
watched the "bionic twins" and they're fine for just light entertainment,
but the shows that impact more on me are the ones where the superhuman
characters deal with moral issues or have other experiences that can
make me think or stimulate my imagination.
I must confess to having a longstanding interest in vampires such
that even in films or shows where the vampire is just the monster
to be destroyed I can find some enjoyment in watching. I get more
enjoyment out of the shows that look at life from the vampire's
viewpoint as well as the mortal viewpoint though.
Another element that draws me to vampires is that I find most of them
sexy also. ;)
>Do we like "evil" superhumans? Why or why not?
I guess I answered that one above from a personal standpoint. I
would guess that some of the attraction people might have to "evil"
superhumans is that they get to do what most of us can't do in
real life--do almost whatever they want. They don't like someone,
they eliminate them. They want something, they take it. We don't
usually have such complete freedom as ordinary humans.
>To what extent is ambiguity itself appealing?
Ambiguity itself can be appealing when you can imagine the reasons
for the ambiguities. Trying to penetrate the secrets and get to
the truth has its appeal.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:14:39 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Acronyms
Carma asks:
> I have to sheepishly admit that I've been on the list about 5 months and I
> still don't get all the acronyms. Sometimes I can make an educated guess,
> but ROTFL!! still eludes me. Can anyone clear up my foggy understanding?
Well, after 5 months you've got to be really curious :-) Actually,
as I recall, this comes up every so often, so... before all the other
newbies get brave and say "yeah, I don't get it either" <g>... I'll
play Wise Old List Person<tm>:
(hey, I've been here a year already, I can pull it off! :-)
ROTFL - Rolling on the Floor Laughing
ROTFLMAO - Rolling on the Floor, Laughing My.. um... "derriere" Off
LOL - Laughing Out Loud
IMO - In My Opinion
IMHO - In My Humble/Honest Opinion
IMNSO - In My Not-So-Humble Opinion
FWIW - For What It's Worth
YKYBWTMFKW... - You Know You've Been Watching Too Much FK When...
(um...)
FK - "Forever Knight" <vbg>
(um...)
<VBG> - Very Big Grin
<VWG> - Very Wicked Grin
<G> - (just a plain ol') Grin
NATPE - (uhhhhhh... That thing in Vegas we went to... <g>)*
other assorted 2-4 letter combos - get an ep guide and start guessing :-)
hmmm... I *know* there's more...
o.k...
OBFK: ("Obligatory FK comment, so I'm not actually off-topic even though
maybe I really am... oh o.k... so sue me" <g>)
uh..... "Can't wait for Human Factor!"
(o.k... so it was *really* lame... they usually are :-)
Dianne
The Once-Again-Mad Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD
"Are you okay?" "I think I'm just a _little_ over-caffeinated."
* (o.k.. I know it, it's "National Association of Television Programming
Executives"... _now_ you see why they abbreviate it? :-)
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:59:04 -0330
From: Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......>
Subject: Re: Percentage of water/blood in the human/vampire body
On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Hugo Trepanier wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I'm sorry, but I think this post is completely off-topic.
>
> someone made a small mistake. They said the body was composed of 90% water,
> thus suggesting that a vampire's body would be composed of blood in a
> made around 70% water, which, I think, makes more sense. 90% is way too
>
>
> Hugo Trepanier
> pio@m.......
>
I think that I (Jason Ryan) made that mistake, thanks for
clearing that up for me:)
Jason Ryan
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 16:10:53 CST
From: "OREL, SARA" <FA55@n.......>
Subject: KCTV (channel 5 in Kansas City)
I sent the following message to KCTV (channel 5 in Kansas City, MO), via
their web page...
>____________________________________________
>
>username: FA55%nemomus@a.......
>____________________________________________
>
>TO WHOM:: Programming
>____________________________________________
>
>Comments: I tried to send this message earlier, but it may not have
gotten to you. I am quite new to the WWW, so sometimes I make mistakes.
Anyway, if this is a duplicate message, that is the reason.
> I wanted to thank you for airing my favourite television program,
"Forever Knight". I enjoy it because of the intelligence and often wit of
the writing, the strong stories, and the relatively light sexual content
(which often seems to be a substitute for story these days). Although it is
about vampires, it is a strongly moral program, dealing with issues of right
and wrong, respect for intelligence and education in both men and women, and
a lot of fun besides.
> I've been a big fan of the show for all three of its seasons, and I
hope that you will pick it up again for a fourth season. Even though it is
on so late at night (and I would be thrilled if you moved it earlier!), I
stay up to watch it. I often end up taking a nap earlier in the evening, so
I don't end up completely exhausted teaching a class the next day.
> My mother who lives in Lawrence also enjoys the program a lot, and she
has learned how to program a VCR specifically to tape the show. I think
that is as strong an indication of her enthusiasm as you could want!
> Again, thanks for running the show this season, and please please
please pick it up for a fourth one. I will watch it on KCTV with great
enthusiasm!
> --Sara Orel
>____________________________________________
Please forgive the cut-off ends of lines -- they sent the message back
to me and I thought you might want to know what I said to them.
I got back an answer today from someone called Pam Carder, but I don't
know what her title is exactly. She wrote "Thanks for your comments
regarding "Forever Knight." We will definitely pass them on to the
distributor. This may be a futile attempt, as I have heard it will not
be back next year, but you never know."
I just thought you wanted to hear from another station response. Is
there any more word from anyone? Has anyone heard from James Parriott
to find out how recent the Boston Herald interview (in which he said
that he was flattered, but uncertain how much good the internet folks
would do) was? Has anyone heard from him more recently than the
"Thanks, I am lucky to have fans like you" message?
When do we expect to hear anything more?
>recipient: kctv@k.......
Thank you for your comments about KCTV. If you directed comments to a
specific person, your message will be forwarded. Check our site often for
exciting additions and updates. Thanks Again.
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:44:36 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Bloooooood and biting
On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, June Russell wrote:
> Femoral is the thigh artery. Brachial is the arm (the one felt at the bend
> in the elbow).
Ya had to go and mention the elbow!!! :)
OBFK: As I was wheeling my way on into the operating room, I had visions
of "Nat" the last time *she* was going to be operated on! And since it
was daylight..I knew "Nick" wasn't going to rush in to save me! I won't
even talk about the thoughts I had *after* surgery!
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:54:21 -0500
From: Nancy Fralic <fralic@m.......>
Subject: Help!
Drat - I deleted a message by accident...
I intended to respond to the message from (Marge?) who said she had 1st
generation Canadian tapes of the first season + others and was willing to
copy. Does anyone else know her address? Please e-mail me privately.
Thanks!
Nancy Fralic fralic@p.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:02:58 -0700
From: Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Response from PAF
I received a very nice thank you note from the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
for my donation. While it seemed to be a form letter, I was pleased that
they noted my donation was on behalf of Forever Knight.
Falcon Storm
Vaquera/Cousine/Knightie
satori@m.......
http://www.mt.net/~satori/Falcon/Falcon.html
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:27:38 -0500
From: Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: CHARITY: New Total
Hey, Hey Everyone :) <wave>
Okay, our current total is $8,081.50 :) Aren't we great? :)
{{{{{{{{{{hugs all around}}}}}}}}}}}
I'm sending the next batch of checks off to the Pediatric AIDS
Foundation next Friday. As I mentioned in my last post, many
people suggested the charity drive remain open until the end of
March to allow time for various fan clubs to become involved, so
I'll be forwarding PAF check packages once every two to three weeks
until the end of March.
Again, the address is: Lisa Prince, [Address removed]
Checks should be made payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Lisa Prince -- The Befuddled Cousin
(Moonlight) moonlight@g.......
Forever Knight Pediatric AIDS Foundation Charity Organizer
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:03:13 -0700
From: Gay Eckes <raven@r.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy hawks vitamins!
At 07:10 PM 2/8/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Quick - anyone else who's been watching/taping "Mann and Machine" on the
>Sci-Fi Channel, wasn't that Lisa Ryder on those Puritan's Pride commercials??
You mean you *haven't* caught her hawking Pepsid AC on the networks? It's
the voice that makes you notice her. The little "uulgh" she says for
heartburn is identical to the noise she makes when looking at something
unpleasant (like Screed's rats) on FK.
Later,
Gay Eckes raven@r....... gdeckes@i....... gdeckes@c.......
>>Just because I've ordered, doesn't mean I can't look at the menu . . .<<
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:08:53 -0500
From: zillah <zillah@i.......>
Subject: Re: Bloooooood and biting
What about this, then...
What if what we see as "blood tears" isn't really blood?
Take as an example Nicholas' blood oozing back into him as he lay on
Natalie's table in "Only The Lonely" and her aim, or lack there of, with
her needle in "Night In Question." It would seem the vampire body knows
what to do with the blood, without the traditional digestive process.
HYPOTHESIS: Does the blood go through a much finer 'digestive' process
whereby portions of the whole blood are used to do different things?
This would mean that the substance the body would use to lubricate itself
(sweat, tears, etc) might be blood product that has been metabolized in
some fashion but is still tainted red by the remainder.
In other words, blood tears. ::grins::
My thoughts on the subject.
=== Take It Light ===
___________________________________________________________
.Cousin Zillah.
.zillah@i........
"I was just thinking about the immortal words of Socrates when he said: 'I
just drank what?' "
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:09.09a::02.09:
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:14:40 -0600
From: Christy Tucker <ctucker@m.......>
Subject: Re: Religion, Knights, and Vampires oh my!
At 09:30 PM 2/8/96 -0500, Tippi Blevins wrote:
>As far as whether or not religious people would be on this list... Who
>knows? I'm spiritual, not religious -- there's a big difference, at least to
>me. ;)
Actually, I am a religious person. I watch FK bacause Nick is searching for
salvation and redemption - which is the base of Christianity, the religion I
profess. There are things I don't like about the show; I've seen some
things that clash with the faith I have. However, I overlook those things
in hope that Nick will find his mortality. But also, as writer, I adore the
characterization - all of the characters are so well written that I can't
help but to fall into their lives. And even I have problems with that - the
writers have been so wishy-washy this last season. For example - Lacroix
saying "Let's get naked" in Hearts of Darkness. Really. I can't imagine a
former roman general saying that - it's so...common.
I'll get off of my soap box now.
Christy Tucker
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ctucker@m.......
Visit The Road to Damascus: http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~ctucker/
"are you hurt, madam?"
"no sir, i am dead."
"that is serious. may i help?"
-Orlando
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:31:22 -0500
From: "Janette Z." <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Unwellness Love & Nick's Wants
In a message dated 96-02-07 18:16:00 EST, you write:
> If he *really* didn't want to be a vampire
>anymore, then (like Amanda in the ST:TNG episode, "True Q") he must cease
>using his special abilities.
What's that going to do for him? Nick's not a Q, he's a vampire. He
tried not drinking blood, and almost starved himself, (Dark Knight, etc) if
he has the ability's he should use them for good, and still continue his
search. Personally I think he should give up his quest and go back to
Janette, but hey... can't blame a girl for dreaming. BTW: I got sent a
message from Listserv a few hours ago saying my subscribtion had been changed
and I was no mail, so I sent a query form to them, and so far nata!!! Would
someone e-mail me *off-list* and tell me if they have a clew?
-Ravenette and Immortal Beloved,
Janette@a.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:31:29 -0500
From: "Janette Z." <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Mass Murderers?
In a message dated 96-02-07 18:20:11 EST, you write:
>IMHO, he is or they are, mass murderers. Duncan often *must* kill to live,
>but he often *chooses* to kill (so that others may live). Judged by
>human/mortal standards, both men are guilty of ignoring law and killing when
>they feel like it.
When they *feel like it*?!!!!! That's nutso!!!! If Duncan didn't kill
he'd be dead. That's self defense which is certainly legal. And Nick kills
to survive!!! Humans eat meat, does that make them mass murderers? I don't
think so!!!
Self defense is very different from just killing when one feels like it.
It's not as if Duncan runs through town chopping off and immie's head he
sees. And it's not like Nick, *Ever* just bit every single person he saw.
They kill when they *need* too. Not when they feel like it.
-Ravenette, Immortal Beloved, Richie Reservist,
Janette@a.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:00:19 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: SPOILER GVP / Re:acronyms
Carma asks:
> I have to sheepishly admit that I've been on the list about 5 months and I
> still don't get all the acronyms.
Could this be why Nick (the veteran) figured out the acronym in GVP so
quickly and why Tracy (the newbie) needed the help of a computer program?
Bonnela de las Vaqueras
-- Heartbreaker (for more reasons than can be listed here)
(bonnie@o.......)-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:19:11 -0500
From: Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Acronyms
> play Wise Old List Person<tm>:
>
> (hey, I've been here a year already, I can pull it off! :-)
Only a year? ...it's seemed like oh-so-much longer.....*snicker*
Besides ..you forgot a couple, though they may have been before your time ;)
> ROTFLMAO - Rolling on the Floor, Laughing My.. um... "derriere" Off
There's also another variation on this theme:
ROTFLSHIAKTC! -Which translates into Rolling on the Floor, Laughing So
Hard I Almost Killed The Cat! (because there are SO many
of us owned by cats on this list ;)
> IMO - In My Opinion
..And coined by Caile and myself:
IMACO -In My Arrogant Cousinly Opinion
> (um...)
> FK - "Forever Knight" <vbg>
Like, uhh..d'uh...
> (um...)
> <VBG> - Very Big Grin
> <VWG> - Very Wicked Grin
> <G> - (just a plain ol') Grin
What about :
<VEG> - Very Evil Grin ..one of my personal favorites..
> "Are you okay?" "I think I'm just a _little_ over-caffeinated."
Sounds like something I've been quoted saying....;)
> * (o.k.. I know it, it's "National Association of Television Programming
> Executives"... _now_ you see why they abbreviate it? :-)
She's such a *GOOD* Little Merc.
Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
Toreador by default
winter@j.......
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:13:57 -0600
From: Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: A "Goodies" Idea
Here it is just 10 days or so away from the wildest holiday in South
Louisiana and it has not occurred to me until now to suggest "King Cakes" as
gifts for Syndies, KK and JonF. There are several local companies which
ship the delicious confections for a reasonable cost (I'll check into
costs/quality if anybody is interested). I'd like to send at least one to
KK and JonF (and maybe the set - they always have food there, don't they?),
but am on a very limited income. It'll be around $100 and I can put in $20.
Any takers?
"Cousin" Kayla !~!~!~ katygale@i......., katygale@a.......
| **"Forever Knight" is still in jeopardy. Please call your local
| station and tell them you want to see the show continue.
| (**See http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html)
"American Gothic" is also slated for cancellation. Please e-mail CBS at
marketing@c....... and call your local station. You know the routine ;-(
Duncan Flag Wavers International:
Head Flag Waver for (Duncan's) DDG's Posterior
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