FORKNI-L
Digest - 7 Feb 1996
Wed, 7 Feb 1996
There are 17 messages totalling 507 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. No Life? (3)
2. Can Vampires be tattooed?
3. Nick as a mortal: Minority view
4. NB on Friday the 13th
5. Vamp tattoos
6. JAMIE'S FLY LIVES ON & ON
7. You know...
8. Tattoo permanence
9. I found it after all......
10. Bloody tears?
11. ykyb
12. lynn
13. Mailer enters Twilight Zone
14. Sci Fi Universe FK article
15. Nick and Children
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:02:48 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: No Life?
In: "Re: No Life?", mailed on Wed, 07 Feb 96 13:11:38 CST , Stephanie Babbitt
wrote:
>
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> Stephanie Babbitt
> wondering if Vachon has tattoos under that sexy black leather jacket...
>
Don Durham replied:
Now there's an interesting question, "Can vampires get tatooed?" On the one
hand they are unfazed by most physical damage, so can the needle get into them
and deposit the dye? Also, their recuperative powers would probably just
eradicate the foreign material from their bodies, but unless it were ejected
(not a pretty thought), they would have to assimilate it.
If they don't eject or eradicate it, then the tatoo would remain. Man you'd
have a hard time using dermabrasion or laser to eliminate a tatoo from a being
that heals about as fast as he is injured.
Any thoughts?
Don, Cousin
don.durham@d.......
Woody: "You're flying!"
Buzz: "This isn't flying. This is falling with style!"
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:42:25 -0330
From: Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......>
Subject: Re: No Life?
On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Don Durham wrote:
> In: "Re: No Life?", mailed on Wed, 07 Feb 96 13:11:38 CST , Stephanie Babbitt
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> %<%<%<%<%<%<
>
> > Stephanie Babbitt
> > wondering if Vachon has tattoos under that sexy black leather jacket...
> >
>
> Don Durham replied:
>
> Now there's an interesting question, "Can vampires get tatooed?" On the one
> hand they are unfazed by most physical damage, so can the needle get into them
> and deposit the dye? Also, their recuperative powers would probably just
> eradicate the foreign material from their bodies, but unless it were ejected
> (not a pretty thought), they would have to assimilate it.
>
> If they don't eject or eradicate it, then the tatoo would remain. Man you'd
> have a hard time using dermabrasion or laser to eliminate a tatoo from a being
> that heals about as fast as he is injured.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Don, Cousin
> don.durham@d.......
> Woody: "You're flying!"
> Buzz: "This isn't flying. This is falling with style!"
>
Well on one episode of FK i've saw that Janette got a tatoo i
dind't see if it evaporated or went away but i did see her get one, the
guy(can't remember who) fooled it up, and she just said that he'll have
to start over again, i guess she mean't that i would disappear in time.
Jason Ryan
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:11:34 -0500
From: "J. Finley" <JFINLEY@i.......>
Subject: Can Vampires be tattooed?
Remember in Faithful Follower when Nat goes to the Raven to talk to
Janette. Janette is in the process of getting a tattoo, and the guy
doing says to her "if I stop now I'll have to do it all over again,"
and Janette replies, "That's half the fun." It seems that if they do
get tatted, the effects are temporary.
MA
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:20:38 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: Nick as a mortal: Minority view
In: "Re: Nick as a mortal: Minority view", mailed on Wed, 07 Feb 96 13:52:33
CST , Jane Snyder wrote:
>
> At 02:40 PM 2/7/96 -0500, Sandra Gray wrote:
>
> >He'd miss his powers at first, but being mortal and having at last
> >a chance at redeeming his soul would be almost heaven to him, imo.
>
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HE'D MISS HIS POWERS AT FIRST? Nick could not survive without his powers. He
had been a vampire for 800 years. He'd be dead in a week. "Nick look out for
that car, that bomb, that falling safe..." He would have to unlearn the
reflexes of a lifetime and relearn how to be mortal again. I think the shock
of being severed from the _vampire net_ (for a lack of a better phrase), is
going to send him into severe mental shock.
%<%<%<%<
> Jane (janes@i.......)
> Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
> Writing is easy -- just stare at the page until your forehead
> bleeds (G. Horvath)
>
Don Durham replied:
I am not going to even get into whether or not vampires are evil...
Now I lay me down to bed, |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head, |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared, |000/000-0000 voice
God I love the night! LL after Marvin,tPA |000/000-0000 beep
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:31:11 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: NB on Friday the 13th
Hi all --
I made an extra tape of Nigel Bennett's guest appearance on "Friday the
13th." His episode, "Butcher," was shown yesterday on the Sci-Fi Channel.
He was quite scary, by the way. He had quite a few lines, and most of
them were in German (subtitled in English, of course)! If you're one of
Nigel's fans (who isn't?) and would like a copy, e-mail me off-list at
percy91@w....... and we'll work out a trade.
Interestingly enough, his character in this episode also spends some time
as a radio show host.
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* __o Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity! *
* _`\<,_ Contact me to pledge support or join the ride. For info *
* (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html *
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:31:44 -0700
From: Corvia Noctis <jln8817@s.......>
Subject: Re: Vamp tattoos
Now if i remember my 1st season episodes from CBS, there was a scene
where Nick goes to the Raven to see Janette and a guy is giving her a
tattoo. She stops him and he complains. She says something like "You
can do it all over tomorrow..." I believe they just disappear off the skin.
Covia
To: Jethro Tull, Ranma 1/2, Sarah McLachlan, Vamps and ALL of the
Night's creatures under the Goddess's Crescent Moon....
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:38:06 -0800
From: Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: JAMIE'S FLY LIVES ON & ON
On Jan 05, 1996 15:07:37, 'Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>'
wrote:
And the powers have repaid me for my sins: I just found a fly in my
coffee.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
Yes, I'm drinking the coffee. It's... sort of another Nick thing to do.
On Jan 05, 1996 16:01:02, '"Celeste Hotaling-Lyons"
<celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......>' wrote:
RE: Jamie's Fly in the Coffee
It was still alive when I fished it out.
But it expired as you stared at it. So you dissected it, to determine if
it died of drowning, being immersed in a heated liquid, or of cholesterol or
caffeine poisoning. It was a very Natalie thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you casually crushed the life out of it without a second thought.
It was a very LaCroix thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you ate it.
It was a very Renfield thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you stared at it. <blink. blink. blink.>
It was a very Vachon thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you pounced on it and batted it back and forth across the table.
It was a very Sydney thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you affixed it, with a cunning tassel and irridescent ribbon, to
your jacket. It was a very Janette thing to do.
It was still alive when I fished it out.
And then you screamed "eeeeee-yeeeew!!!!" and passed out. It was a very
Tracey thing to do.
>Love-ums from Celeste, who is taking a break to read the story now.
Laura (Apache) then wrote
And then you hung it up on the line and drained the ichor into a cup.
It was a very Screed thing to do.
Jamie's reply:
Except that there was no ichor. The fly was empty. No drink.
It was a very Reese thing to do.
--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R.
And from Apache:
And then you demanded a full report, on your desk, yesterday!
It was a very Cohen thing to do.
And then you got grease from your souvlaki all over the report.
It was a very Schanke thing to do.
Jamie's response went like this:
And then I sold the fly to the highest bidder.
It was a very Mercenary thing to do.
And then I posted the fly to the AOL FK boards so that someone would
cross-post it to the FORKNI list for me.
It was a very JP thing to do.
Jamie, who is truly delighted that we've gotten so much mileage out of that
$#@! fly...
-
On Jan 05, 1996 17:50:19, 'Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>'
wrote:
>And then you staked it with a mint toothpick so it wouldn't come
>back as a vampire. It was a very Jamie thing to do. :)
Now THAT deserves to stand as the definitive 'last word' on the subject.
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...send your kid to Medical School.
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:39:57 -0000
From: "anamchar@s......." <anamchar@s.......>
Subject: You know...
You know that it's a sign of full moon madness and that you've been watching too
much FK when a discussion with a colleague at work about
women clients who remain in potentially bad relationships ala Tammy
Wynette's "Stand By Your Man", brings about a picture of Natalie and
Tracy in Dolly Parton hairdos and Tammy Faye Bakker make-up singing
said song. It's a good thing the colleague is an FK fan....
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:33:00 PT
From: Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Re: Tattoo permanence
To quote the tattoo artist doing Janette in a prior season ep:
'But we'll have to start over tomorrow'. To which she replied,
'Well that's the fun of it, no'.
Sorry, quoting from memory. And no I don't remember which ep and which
season. Sorry
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:46:52 -0500
From: Carla Pickering <carlap@e.......>
Subject: I found it after all......
*I Found it*
Bad Verse Warning--
Three Curdled Couplets
I
Relieved Ravens raced to roost,
recounting with rapture
the resuscitated ratings
II
Meanwhile, a recently realized Ravenette reeled
with the research required to requite
The reasonable yearnings in myriad breats
for a sure Season Four for the Knight.
III
Oh say, while recounting the requisite ratings, reflect:
Rampant Ravenettes raging with reason Ms. K would not like.
If outrageous mistakes you should choose to deflect
Just *cancel* the death of the Knight.
I couldn't help it!!!! Honest!!! This was immediately after xeroxing 2000
copies of "the Flyer" and hearing how well our Sterling Seven did.
Carla/Crowhawwk in
Exeter Rhode Island
Recently Realized Ravenette and
Closet Cousine with Knightly leanings
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:57:58 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Bloody tears?
Hi, folks. This is your pesky third-season newbie searching for additional
FK info. I've read in a number of FK fanfic pieces about Nick and other
vampires shedding drops of blood instead of tears. Is this something that's
happened or been discussed on the show (if so, what ep?), or is it just a
generally-accepted attribute of vampires in general? Thanks for tips.
Stephanie Babbitt
Wondering what happens if the poor vamps get a cold--talk about your nosebleed!
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:19:34 -0800
From: Abby <albrecht@s.......>
Subject: ykyb
When you walk back to your apartment and have to pass a bunch of women
wearing scrubs and the first thought in your head is "When the heck did
the Natpackers get here?"...
abby -- Mercenary of the Knight
albrecht@c....... Down the hall lThe first Merc Knightie
eponymous2@a....... Turn right! lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~albrecht
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:29:12 -0800
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: lynn
Can anyone who has contact with Lynn write to me. I'm traiding tapes
with her. And the tape that I was going to tape her has been taped over.
Heather
penni@w.......
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:27:24 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Mailer enters Twilight Zone
Please forgive the wholesale method, but I need to tell a number of
correspondents that anything you sent me today or in the last few
days got wiped out of my mailbox. Systems here at the university of
South Carolina has no idea what happened.
So if I owe anyone an answer, I do apologize and please write me again.
I'd particularly like to thank the person on Feline-l who wote me the
kind note about the tenure situation.
Lisa McDavid McDavid-Lisa@s.......
d020214@u.......
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:34:27 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: No Life?
On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, vicki jean merriman wrote:
> While not at all a perkolator, this is one thing that I _do not_ blame
> Tracy for. She met, then stopped for coffee _in a public place_. She
> had no reason to think that there was anything wrong with picking up the
Nor do I, the "bad judgement" statement should really have been "bad
luck" poor girl goes from a vampire to a bomber in 24 hrs!
Vicki...this is getting scary,we're defending Tracy!
I'm not quite ready to be a Perkulator yet,but I think I could be accused
of having tendencies...
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:41:30 +1000
From: Lisa Sutherland-Fraser <lfraser@p.......>
Subject: Re: Sci Fi Universe FK article
Feast your eyes on the March edition of this mag, may be its already been
mentioned and I'm just a slow Aussie, but the article is fabulous, nice
vamped out shots of Nick, Nick with Nat, etc etc, even an interview with
Uncle...go buy it.
L
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:45:45 -0500
From: Nancy Fralic <fralic@m.......>
Subject: Nick and Children
This is a break from lurking...Because I was interested in discovering
what was being done to save FK, I joined the lists last week - so I
haven't bee lurking very long. Please excuse my ignorance if this
question has come up already or been answered on the show itself; I only
started watching in December and immediately became hooked.
There are repeated references to Nick wanting to have children. I find
the implication (that he has _never_ had children puzzling.) Although it
has been a long time, as a former SCA and Pittsburgh Medievalist member,
I did a great deal of research into medieval meors. At the age Nick
apparently was when he was brought over, and as a knight of that time
period, several possibilities strikeme (caveat though, I am doing this
from memory _many_, I mean _many_, years after doing the research):
A. He was an itinerant knight who fought for whomever hired him. As a
crusader he would be in the service of his liege lord, at home he would
live in his lord's castle with other knights who were also landless. He
probably would not have been able to afford a wife. Therefore he would
have not _legitimate_ children. Those born on the wrong side of the
blanket could be legion though. This would also mean he did not
distinguish himself enough to be granted land or to have won it (he would
have been in service for about 20 years including the Crusades since he'd
have been in his teens when he started.) That he sould fail to
distinguish himself seems unlikely since he's apparently drawn to danger
and chance-taking.
B. He was a landed knight, either through his service and/or heroism, or
because he is the eldest son of his noble family. In this case, by his
late 20's at least, he would have married. It would even be conceivable
that he would that he would have been married in his teens - even early
teens - if his father was a noble and needed to cement an alliance. The
major goal of marriage then was to produce many children. His wife would
have been chatelaine of his castle, running it in his absence during the
Crusade. If I'm not mistaken, at this time period even betrothals (which
involved the taking of vows in the church) could last several years and
result in several children. When the couple married, the children stood
with them, making the _legitimate_. Aside from that, it is almost
inconceivable that Nick would not have a number of illegitimate children,
some of whom he might even have officially acknowledged. It is even
quite possible, that if he married very young to cement an alliance, thus
having children while in his teens, he, too, might have needed to marry
his son or daughter off to another lord's child, and was a grandfather by
the time he was brought over. Of course his wife could have died early
on due to anything including child-birth.
*Additional thought - as an itinerant knight, it would have been easy to
transfer his allegience to his new liege lord, LaCroix.
*Another thought - if he did have children, could he conceivably run into
his own decendant - perhaps someone who had traced their geneology back
to him or beyond?
Any reactions?
Nancy Fralic
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