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Digest - 1 Feb 1996 to 2 Feb 1996 - Special issue

Fri, 2 Feb 1996

There are 31 messages totalling 1023 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. SF BLOOD DONATING
  2. USA giving FK another airing
  3. Sundry Matters
  4. USA Network
  5. FK on USA
  6. YKYBWTMFKW (2)
  7. Ger in Taming of the Shrew
  8. Ratings
  9. Comments on FK Vampires
 10. Sharks or Spam for Kay (2)
 11. GWD Conference Log
 12. More tidbits
 13. Who Wants a tape of the Gemini Awards???
 14. returned/undeliverable from Sony
 15. ADMIN: New Assistant Listowner!
 16. FK Calender Spanish style
 17. Ian Spelling's Columns/YKYBWTMFKW
 18. Abbreviations
 19. Correction-FK on USA
 20. SOS - Gift ideas
 21. My Dream FK Calendar
 22. Call from TriStar;  Seeking Alice Riehl
 23. FK List FAQ:  Where to find it
 24. Improving AOL with FK sounds
 25. 'Older' men and the age thing
 26. Calendar (a Cousinly version)
 27. CTV / Question for all
 28. We ought to get a life...
 29. Who needs a sex life?

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:59:01 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: SF BLOOD DONATING

On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Bonnie Pardoe wrote:

> *****SF/BERKELEY/BAY AREA FK FANS*****
>
>      I just gave blood today in the SF/Berkeley Bay Area and I wanted to let
> people in this area know that even though the Red Cross does not take the
> donations here, The Blood Bank of the Alameda-Contra Costa Medical
> Association does AND they will keep tabs on the number of FK fans who donate
> to them!!!
>
In Santa Rosa (north of SF and Berkeley) it is the Blood Bank of the
Redwoods (I've been donating since I was old enough)--but I am three
thousand miles away. New Yorkers: Were do I go in Manhattan, preferabley
in the Village?

I'll have my sister in Santa Rosa drag all of the family members she can
muster...including herself.

******************************************
Alora C. Chistiakoff <acc0924@i.......>
Nick/NatPacker and all around FK junkie
"I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires."
                --Nick Knight
******************************************

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:27:58 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: USA giving FK another airing

On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote:

> Anyone check the NYC TV Guide to see if FK is listed on Monday night at 10
> on USA?  Someone said it's listed in their TV Guide but I forget where
> they're from.

According to my TV Guide (NYC) Monday at 10:00pm is Sil Stalkings...but
then again this is the same publication that said FK was airing Tuesday
night at 9:00...


Alora C. Chistiakoff <acc0924@i.......>
Nick/NatPacker and all around FK junkie
"I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires."
                --Nick Knight

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:36:40 -0500
From:    patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: Sundry Matters

        Gang:
        Thanks for all who have inquired as to what the layout of my Novem-
ber photograph would be in my Dream FK Calendar. Y'all are some sick puppies.
But I _like_ that in a list. :)
        To John Soo-hoo: Yeah, I suppose the outfit would have to be black.
It wouldn't show up well if she's on a white background in a white outfit.
And Janette does do black terribly well.
        In regard to LC owning a dog. _If_ he were to ever own one, and I
really can't see him doing so -- he said as much -- I think he'd own a *big*
one. Say an Irish Wolfhound or a German Shepherd/Wolf hybrid. I definitely
*cannot* see Uncle preening over a little Teacup Poodle named "Schnookums."
Although the image *is* amusing . . .

        Pat -- Lone Nanette and B-Negative FoD
        Web Page Designer-In-Training

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:58:15 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: USA Network

Karen Jensen wrote:
>>Annmarie - here's info for you to use, dispatch, or whatever:
>>
>>Printed in Boston Herald, January 31, 1996
>>
>>VAMPIRE BITTEN:  USA boxing returns to a two-hour format at 9 tonight with
>>Detroit card ... USA had cut to an hour Jan 9 to makr room for "Forever
>>Knight," a vampire series that had no teeth.  "We had hundreds of calls,
>>letters and faxes asking to bring the two hours back," said USA's Dan
>>Schoenberg.
>>
>>Hundreds?  I think FK fans have done A LOT better than that.  Fooey on this
>>Dan Schoenberg guy!

Hundreds?  You are correct, we have done better than that.  But we can do it
again.  We can ALL write to him complaining about the two hours of boxing
and the relegation of FK to the dead of the night zone (1am).

Of course, maybe our letters we just a bit too intelligent for the people at
USA.  I guess "Ugh. Boxing. More. <burp>" is all they can handle!

Is Dan Schoenberg at the New York or the LA address for USA?

Bonnie de las Vaqueras (bonnie@o.......)
   "Go quietly?  So you can sweep this under the rug and pretend it never
happened?  I don't *think* so."

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:38:50 -0500
From:    Helen Schreiner <HelenCS@a.......>
Subject: FK on USA

In answer to Sharon 's question,  I see Silk Stalkings listed at 10PM in TV
Guide for  Monday Feb 9th.

Helen (HelenCS@a......., HS7@c.......)

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:21:23 CST
From:    Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW

In: "Re: YKYBWTMFKW", mailed on Wed, 31 Jan 96 19:54:49 CST  , CINDY L BREWER
wrote:

>
> Hi Guys,

%<%<%<%
> question out......if LaCroix had a dog what kind of dog would it be?

>
>                            Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
>                           Knightie,Nick&Natpacker,Optimist's Club
>                           Vaquera
>                "You're the only supernatural friend I have."Tracy to Vachon

Don Durham replied:

Uncle would NOT have a dog.  There is not a dog in existance that could be a
cousin.  He would have a have a panther or a black leopard.  Something that
would _hunt_ with him, maybe clean up the scraps...


Now I lay me down to bed,                       |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head,                  |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared,                          |000/000-0000 voice
God I love the night!   LL after Marvin,tPA     |000/000-0000 beep

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:07:45 EST
From:    CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW

I asked:
if LaCroix had a dog what kind of dog would it be?

And Laurie Fenster responded:
Someone wrote an absolutely hilarious, delightful story on that subject
  It was written prior to Crescent City Con last year, and showed up there
as a story and coloring book <g>, published by Special Services.

        Thanks Laurie,I have a few catalogs from Special Services around
here somewhere that I'm going to dig out.:-)

        As for my orginal question,I just had this image of LaCroix or
whoever coming home and having a favorite pet greet them.:-)Of course the
pets would already be brought across.............


                        Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
                       Knightie,Nick&Natpacker,Optimist's club
                       Vaquera
            "You're the only supernatural friend I have."Tracy to Vachon

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:21:14 -0500
From:    Connie Louie <yu117287@y.......>
Subject: Re: Ger in Taming of the Shrew

On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Maria Vrzoc wrote:

> I understand Ger will be playing Petruchio in Taming of the Shrew at the
> end of April in Toronto. However, I have never heard of the World
> Festival Theatre.
[snip]

I've never heard of the World Festival Theatre either but Ijust read an
article about the play today in the Toronto Sun.  Taming of the Shrew with
Ger and an "all-Canadian cast" will be playing at Harbourfront Centre (in
downtown Toronto).  I've only been down there once or twice so I don't
really know the place well but maybe the theatre there is the World
Festival Theatre?

Taming of the Shrew is part of the du Maurier World Stage Festival.
Various countries are involved and they each put on their own play during
the 2 1/2 week festival.  It starts on April 11 and runs until April 28.
I don't know when Taming of the Shrew will actually be on though.

Hope this helps!

Connie
yu117287@y.......

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:27:00 CST
From:    Jill Kirby <jtkirby@m.......>
Subject: Ratings

Moderately long, semi-technical post ahead.  I'm on digest, so I hope this
hasn't already been answered.  Sharon wondered:

> I wondered how in the heck they'd know what you were tuned to, but
>I guess they might be able to tell
>by the frequency of what's being picked up or something.

I knew being a film major would come in handy someday!

As of 1988 (and as far as I know it's the same now; someone correct me if
I'm wrong) Nielsen could only get ratings if you were a "Nielsen family."
You had to either be filling out a diary or have a measurement box
(audimeter) on your television.  If you aren't an official Nielsen "family,"
you don't get counted (and even if you are a family you have to fill out the
diary or activate the box to be counted).

Just turning on a TV doesn't get your viewing counted anywhere, unless
things have changed radically.  There are all kinds of privacy issues
associated with changing how they tabulate ratings-- do we really want
anyone knowing <everything> we watch, the minute we turn on our TVs?  Big
Brother, etc.

One problem is that they do not place boxes/diaries in multi-unit viewing
sites such as dorms, prisons, SRO hotels, offices, etc.  They miss a lot of
viewers that way.  Shows like "Melrose Place" (and soaps) hung on for a
while before the producers realized the enormous following the programs had
in colleges, and were able to capitalize on it.  Soaps still complain that
their ratings are not accurate.

"Overnight" ratings are only available in major markets; they provide total
numbers of viewers without demographic information.  Diary entries are not
counted for these types of ratings-- only the boxes.  They can indicate
quickly if a program has "taken off" in the urban markets; while this is not
a guarantee that a show will do well it can be a predictor.  A show like FK
is more likely to do well in the cities, so that's why the NY station
probably looks at overnights so heavily.

<This> is why we need to write, and call, and write and call some more.  The
current system misses millions of viewers, and while it's (more or less)
statistically valid it dooms great shows because of the relative lack of
data.  Nielsen simply does not have the time, money or desire to increase
the sample size.  And they're missing FK, which is a crime.

Jill
***
Jill Kirby - jtkirby@m....... - http://www.mcs.net/~jtkirby/
            I lost the truth, I lost my way
                But I am looking for it...
               Oh I am looking for myself.  -- Jann Arden

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:33:58 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: Comments on FK Vampires

Blame this on having NOTHING to do at work and a whole stack of three days
worth of FORKNI-L digests handy to catch up on...

Just a few notes on other posts concerning FK vampirism:

Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> wrote:
>>Are those psychic powers capable
of being transmitted "genetically" or through the ingestion of human blood?
 If not, where did all the vampires get it from?  And speaking of genetics,
if vampirism is a virus, is it also a virus which renders the vampires
sterile?  Why can't they have children?<<

I personally have no difficulty believing that vampirism would be a genetic
mutation of some kind, whether from virus or a mutation (supernaturally
induced or natural) that would both render the vampire capable of amazing
powers and make them sterile.  The viral agent or mutative agent could be
transmitted by the ingestion of infected or affected blood.  And it could be
that for the "virus" to take hold, the blood volume in the body must be
reduced to a certain level.  As to why scientists don't know about the virus,
the fact that it cannot be cultured outside of the normal vector (the
vampire) would mean that it cannot be studied except in vitro (by studying an
actual vampire) and given the vampire's powers of persuasion and the
Enforcers' vigilance, this would apparently not be possible.  Actually, it
may be luck that a vampire has never been captured over the centuries and
studied!  I find *that* the hardest to believe.

zillah <zillah@i.......> wrote:
>> If I suddenly had the gift of free flight, I seriously doubt that I would
suddenly be able to know where I am from over top of the buildings.,,

I'd imagine that a vampire has additional senses that mortals do not have.
 For example, they  know to the second, apparently, when the sun will rise
and when it will set.  Amazing that we haven't discussed that - or have we?
 ;)  I'm at a loss to explain how THAT works!  But back to navigation, I
imagine they could have a sense of spatial placement, of always knowing where
they are.  Now I'm trying to remember any episode that showed a vampire being
physically lost...  Oh, well, I tried!


Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>  wrote:
>>I have friends that run in the 100mi races, they have to eat
prodigous amounts of food before, during and after the race.  If it did not
_cost_ anything to fly, then most of the FKV's would fly everywhere -- it's
definitely quicker.<<

I think we're talking an amazing ability by vampires to get the best bang for
the buck, meaning that they can metabolize the blood for energy far, far
better than mortals.  It might also explain their energy bursts that allow
them their superior speed of movement.
Basically, I don't think we can compare vampires to mortal humans very much.
 When a mortal is brought across and is transformed, the rule book and the
blueprint pretty much go straight out the window, I imagine.

You know, people, you got me thinking now... a dangerous thing, to be sure...
 :)=

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Knightie, sometime Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:36:01 -0800
From:    "Toni C. Holm" <tch@w.......>
Subject: Sharks or Spam for Kay

Apache said:
>       Kay got a very fancy bouquet from the florist at the Plaza Hotel
>on Monday that said simply, "with Very Best Wishes, the Friends of Forever
>Knight."
>        Wonder who she screamed at this time?  <g>

Following Apache's lead, Kay was sent a very nice cedar box full of salmon,
coffee & chocolates from the Northwest (US) for delivery tomorrow. The
message?  "with Very Best Wishes, the Friends of Forever Knight."  She's
surrounded....

Anybody else sending regional goodies???

                -Toni   <tch@w.......>

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:36:31 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: GWD Conference Log

About that GWD Conference Log...

Erin Murphy, online editor of OMNI Magazine, told me that one must have
permission from OMNI and AOL (from the Center Stage manager, address
AmyA@a.......) to post a conference log on a web page or ftp site.  Conference
(and chat logs) are copyrighted.  I have received permission from Erin, but
have not heard back from Amy Arnold yet.

However, the log can be distributed by PRIVATE e-mail.  Therefore, I will
gladly send a log to anyone who e-mails me privately with SEND GWD LOG in the
subject area. This only applies to the *official* conference log from OMNI
which has no row comments.   I apologize for saying I would make the row
comments and The Morgue chat available - I will not, for of course those are
private.

And for those of you who can get the log from AOL, here's where it is:
Go to keyword: OMNI  >  Click on OMNI CHAT  > Double Click on Log Libraries
  >  Double Click on Conference Logs


Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Knightie

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:38:15 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: More tidbits

Allison Percy <percy91@w.......> quoted Ger from the conference:

>>"I'm doing Shakespeare in April! I'm playing Petruchio in
  "Taming of the Shrew" at the World Theater Festival with the original
  Shakespeare Company from Britain.. and we're doing it in Toronto at the
  end of April."<<

And then replied:
>>All I can say is....  ROAD TRIP!!  Who wants to go?  We'll carpool!  :)<<

I'm up for it!  Anyone else from the Chicago/So. Michigan area interested?
 Or points along that direction?
===============================
 Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......> wrote:

>>I can't see Uncle and Tracy together, but I'd love to see the
scene when LaCroix meets the "Perky" one for the first time.<<

I wrote about this!  Check out the story "A Trace of Anxiety" (filename:
TRACEANX.TXT) from my ftp site at:

ftp://members.aol.com/scfimarci/fkfiction

AND ONE LAST NOTE FOR THE NIGHT:
"A Taste of Black Velvet" is FINISHED and READY TO POST!

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Knightie and sometime Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:39:35 -0800
From:    Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: Sharks or Spam for Kay

Toni asked if others sent regional goodies...

YES.  The SF Bay Area Friends of Forever Knight sent her ghirardelli
chocolate.  It will also arrive tomorrow!

Wow.  Salmon and chocolate on the same day.  There must be fanfic in
there somewhere.

Cynthia
choff@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:45:43 -0500
From:    Bedard Marcel <bedardma@e.......>
Subject: Who Wants a tape of the Gemini Awards???

                 Last year I taped the Gemini Awards and made copies for
        alot of people on the Due South Mailing list and so I'm
        volunteering again this year to do it and thought that people
        on the Forever Knight mailing list might want a copy too, so if you
        want me to mail you a copy please e-mail me with your full address.

                 I would like in return $10.00 US (CASH or MONEY ORDER)
         (personal checks are frozen in my bank account for 45 days, if
         you don't mind waiting that long than send personal checks)

                 The $10.00 US (Cash or money order) includes:

                         Tape (TDK  Extra High Grade)
                              (taped in SP mode (1 tape / 2 hours)
                         Packaging
                         Air Mail


                 I still have last years Gemini Awards with Paul Gross
         as the host & the commercial for the Geminis with Paul Gross
         so if you want a copy let me know.


                                         France



--
   He was brought across in 1228.  Preyed on humans for their blood.
   Now he wants to be mortal again, to repay society for his sins, to
   emerge from his world of Darkness, from his endless, FOREVER KNIGHT
                    bedardma@e.......

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:01:38 -0500
From:    Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: returned/undeliverable from Sony

Has anybody else had a letter to Sony at this address returned marked
"undeliverable"?

Xxx Xxxx Xx.
Xxxx Xxxxx, XX 00000

The wierd thing is that the envelope was stamped "Received Jan 03" with an
office stamper, and somebody wrote "Sony Pictures MD#118" on it.  Even
wierder--all I got back was the envelope; it had been neatly opened at the
top with a letter opener.  No letter, just an envelope.  Wierd!

Lisa W.
MVRJasper@a.......

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:15:23 -0500
From:    The Phoenix <jap8@c.......>
Subject: ADMIN: New Assistant Listowner!

Many pardons, Jamie, for /totally/ forgetting to do this the other day!

Gang, Jamie M.R. (aka WebGoddess) has gracious volunteered to becoming a
full assistant listowner of all three lists as Cousin Laurie Salopek has
retired in the face of too much RL.

So, from now on, please address listowning stuff to me and Jamie, and
subscription stuff to Jamie and Don Fasig.

Red.

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:44:10 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: FK Calender Spanish style

This one is for the Vaqueras and the closet Vaquera-wannabe's (you know who
you are and if you don't your friends do):

JANUARY:  Vachon in burgundy silk boxers lying on his side on a bear skin
rug in front of a roaring fire.

FEBRUARY:  Vachon holding a teddy bear with a red ribbon around his neck,
silently mouthing the word "yes."

MARCH:  Vachon posing like Michelangelo's David with a strategically placed
four-leaf clover.

APRIL:  Vachon standing in his biker leathers with Tracy on the floor at his
feet offering up a bouquet of Calla Lilies, with the caption "She's no fool."

MAY:  Vachon standing over the grave of Screed at midnight, Toasting his
departed friend "See you in Hell, Sailor."

JUNE:  Vachon on the pitcher's mount in a skin tight Toronto Blue Jays
baseball uniform, with the hat askew like one of the Bowery Boys, holding a
baseball behind his back.

JULY:  Vachon wrapped, like a toga, in nothing but the American Flag, with
Nat, Tracy, and Janette in majorette uniforms holding aloft sparklers in the
backgound.

AUGUST:  Vachon in swim trucks walking down a moonlight drenched beach.

SEPTEMBER:  The entire crew playing volleyball, with Vachon spiking the ball
over the net and both Nick and LaCroix diving for the ball, but missing.

OCTOBER:  Trick -or- treat.  Vachon as Don Juan DeMarco.

NOVEMBER:  MY birhtday month (thank you, Patrick).  A full shot of Vachon
standing in the church with one hand in his front pocket and the other
stroking his five o'clock shadow, looking out from under his bangs as if to
say "Do you want me to draw you a picture?"  I'm thankful.

DECEMBER:  A room decorated for Christmas with a blazing fire in the hearth
and Vachon in a tuxedo motioning toward a candlelit dinner table for two....


--Bonnie <I can die happy now - SIGH>

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:46:02 -0500
From:    Roxanne Piccen <RoxanneP@a.......>
Subject: Ian Spelling's Columns/YKYBWTMFKW

Alright, somewhere in the far reaches of my mind (but strangely
absent on my hard drive) I seem to remember that someone
wanted Mr. Spelling's columns that mention our SOS effort
clipped and sent to them for publicity purposes.  Anybody know
who this person was?  Felicia?  And did this person ever get
their clippings?  If not, I can send the 2 columns I've saved.

The 1/19 column states that FK was cancelled and lists Kay's
name and address at USA as the person to direct any letters
of protest.  The 1/26 column provides the URL for the SFK web
page.  If anything shows up in tomorrow's column, I'll have that
too.  It's just one paragraph in each column, but it's neat seeing
our efforts recognized in print.

So if whoever wanted the columns still needs them, please e-mail
me privately.

YKYBWTMFKW... you're watching KF:TLC, one of the main
characters starts having visions while driving, and you jump up and
yell at the television, "Nick, you're suppose to pull over when you
have flashbacks!"  (It occurs to me now I should have said, "Watch
out for the vampire in the other lane.  He's having flashbacks.")

Happy February!

Roxanne

RoxanneP@a.......
====================================================
Save Forever Knight!  For more details:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
====================================================

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:56:31 -0500
From:    Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject: Abbreviations

I've been on the list for a few weeks and I think I've figured
most things, but I'm still puzzled by the abbreviations IMHO and
IMO. Would one of you wonderful people help me out?  Thanks. By
the way, I think I must be a Knightie.

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:59:32 -0500
From:    Helen Schreiner <HelenCS@a.......>
Subject: Correction-FK on USA

Regarding the listings for Monday 10PM in the NYC area TV Guide-- I had the
wrong date.  Silk Stalkings is listed for 10PM on USA on Monday Feb *5th*.
 Sorry for the confusion.

Helen  (HelenCS@a.......)

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:23:17 -0800
From:    debbie litchman <debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: SOS - Gift ideas

At 06:35 PM 1/31/96 -0800, Sherri wrote:
>If anyone is looking for a good gift to send someone (impress
>Feltheimer maybe??).............Ethel M Forever Yours Chocolates Collection
>
And the best part is, The Ethel M Chocolate Factory is located in Las Vegas :)=

Debbie8@e.......
The Few, The Proud, The FK NATPE Strikeforce Survivors

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Date:    Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:45:03 -0800
From:    Cousin Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: My Dream FK Calendar

Cousin Tippi,

Now Cousin Tippi, dear.  You KNOW I can't pass a challenge like that.

So Give.  What's your Se...I mean.. Dream FK Calender.

Cousin Cherri

PS.  When's the next story?  Can I see?  Huh.  Can I? Can I?  CLM



"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club,  Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
      Save FOREVER KNIGHT!                       NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
      http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:44:31 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Call from TriStar;  Seeking Alice Riehl

re:  Call from TriStar

*Yeah*, Toni!!!!

Yippee!  Now I have more ammo for changing my local syndie's "hey, nothing
*we* can do" attitude!!!

Regarding my local affiliate and the problems folks have been having
convincing it...  would someone who has Alice Riehl's email address please
send it to me, *privately*?  I thought maybe, just maybe, I'd be lucky enough
that as station personnel in the same state, she might "know" Charles
Bivins... from a NY State broadcaster's association, maybe, if there is such
a thing??  Hope springs eternal....

Thanks for any help!!!

Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:46:38 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: FK List FAQ:  Where to find it

Dalton Spence writes:

>According to Darkangel's Informational Documents page, the
>author of the FAQ list only wants to distribute it to FK* list
>subscribers on request.

It's practically the same thing!  Honest!  I swear! <G>

To everyone who may have joined our lists recently, the Forever Knight FAQ,
which contains almost everything you need to know to survive and thrive in
our fandom (FORKNI-L, FKFIC, FKSPOILR, JADFE, and so forth) is on the FTP
site, *with the author's permission.*  The "newest" version, so to speak.
 Steve Fellows, the author, is either the person who posted it to the FTP
site, or gave permission to the person who did post it (I can't remember if
he currently has Net access).

For anyone and everyone on-list who wants it, the FK FAQ is available,
completely legally to the best of my knowledge, from the FTP site.  Path:

ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/people/lms5/fkmisc

(If they're not FK list members, and they go to all the trouble to track it
down through cac.psu.edu's myriad of directories, then more power to them,
imo <VBG>).

Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:52:02 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Improving AOL with FK sounds

OK, I've been on AOL for just over two weeks now and I've already gotten
sick of the guy's voice who keeps chirping things like "You've got mail!"
and "Welcome!" at me.  The worst is that godawfully cheerful "Goodbye!"
every time I log off.  Come on, now, I'm not *that* perky!

I found out that AOL will play virtually any .wav file with the
appropriate name, however, so I've personalized my copy of AOL with FK
sounds.  These sounds came off that lovely ftp site,
ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/people/lms5/fksounds/

All I did was move the sound files into my AOL directory and rename them.
I saved the old AOL sounds elsewhere just in case I decide I can't live
without that cheerful voice. (Yeah, right.)

This was even more fun than customizing my copy of Windows (opens with
theme music, closes with a vamp snarl).

"Welcome!" (welcome.wav) was replaced by LaCroix saying "The
Nightcrawler is waiting for you..." (crawler1.wav)

"You've got mail!" (gotmail.wav) was replaced by Nick's answering machine
message (yeah_nic.wav).

"Goodbye!" (goodbye.wav) was replaced by LaCroix saying "Oh, I'm sorry
Nicholas, it was all a joke!  There is no release." (all_joke.wav)

"Files done!" (filedone.wav) was replaced by Nick saying, "Why can't you
understand, our friendship is over," and LaCroix replying, "No, it's
forever.  And anyway it's not your choice."  (friend2.wav)

The incoming message sound (im.wav) was replaced by Nat saying, "Do I
smell pina coladas?" (pinacola.wav)

The drop sound (drop.wav) was replaced by LaCroix saying "That hurt!"
(hurt.wav)


OK, I realize that there are a preponderance of LaCroix sayings here, but
that's only because as a Knightie I feel a constant need to torment
myself.  ;)

* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie            percy91@w.......          *
*    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity!          *
*  _`\<,_    Contact me to pledge support or join the ride.  For info  *
* (*)/ (*)   see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html  *

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:59:35 -0500
From:    "Alanna J. Patrick" <APatr29003@a.......>
Subject: Re: 'Older' men and the age thing

Greetings from the Digest abyss!
I've lurked long enough, I've got to throw in my .02 on this weighty matter.

In a message dated 96-02-01 19:47:01 EST, Cousin Tippi wrote:

>Ohmygawd!  Someone who is MY age has just been referred to as an older man!
> (Pardon me while I slink off into the corner -- providing my shriveled 23

Ah Tippi,  just think of how those of us who have surpassed 23 feel.  Picture
your best friend, on your 25th b'day, cheerfully telling you that you were
now a quarter of a century old.  Of course I smacked her with my cane <eg>.

As for 'older' men.
There are volumes of things to be said for 'older' men. The least of which is
that most of them are not walking around in the  hormone fog that usually
afflicts those from 12- early 20's.

>it fizzles!"  LC needs someone of intellect, elegance, and innocence giving
>way to wickedness!  Oh, wait, that's me!  Muahaha!

Get in line Darlin' <hehe>

Rant over, back to lurking.

Cousin Alanna
who's innocence is giving way to wickedness
day by day <wg>

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:36:24 -0800
From:    [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: Calendar (a Cousinly version)

On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Tippi wrote on AC's cousinly calendar:

> >        JANUARY: LaCroix in black jeans and no shirt, looking out over a
> >                snowy Toronto skyline>
> I dunno.  I somehow have a hard time imagining Uncle shopping for jeans.
>  "These fit fine, but they ride up a little when I fly..."

As if any of those poses would have been natural and comfortable for our
favourite characters :) But we know what you mean, Cousin Tippi. Me, i don't
happen to see a problem having LC in something a little too tight for his
bum (it's not like he needs to keep his little swimmers free, happy, and
well-ventilated or anything.)

> *Cousin Tippi*
> "Vampires bring people together." --overheard at a FK party

In the wackiest ways. You guys bring out the most embarrassing in me,
thanks :)


How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? -BGW

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:23:56 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: CTV / Question for all

>Hugo Trepanier wrote:
>Question:
<snip>
>bad guy, and Nick being shot?  I remember he told Schank to continue to chase
>the bad guy, and that he would call an ambulance for himself. I think Nick was
>wearing a black leather jacket.  Maybe an ep. from the 1st season?

Just saw several of the first season eps.  Nick has been shot several times
in that jacket!  In "Dark Knight" he gets shot during a hostage rescue but
Schanke doesn't realize it, then later the museum curator comments on the
hole and Nick says that he got the jacket from a drug dealer who was shot
and he wears it to remind him of his own mortality.  The second time was
"For We Have Sinned" (or something like that - ep #4, season 1).  Nick gets
shot in the hallway outside the 1-900-sex-line office trying to protect a
phone hooker.  She runs off to call the ambulance and he goes after the
attacker, revealing a huge hole in the wall behind him from the bullet.

>wondering if they still show the USA logo at the end.  Well, they do!

Not around on the syndie station here they don't.

Bonnie de las Vaqueras (bonnie@o.......)
   "Go quietly?  So you can sweep this under the rug and pretend it never
happened?  I don't *think* so."

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 04:19:29 -0500
From:    "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: We ought to get a life...

...but this one is TOOO much fun to give up! <ROFL>

Leah Rosenthal:
  >I can't stay up from 1am to 2am every Sunday night

I know the feeling! Fortunately, I don't have kids, so I can just
crawl in the sack for a pre-viewing 4 or 5 hour nap. then I get up
later, tape the show, and crash again. Breaks up the sleep pattern,
but makes me less of a zombie in the morning. (Thank GAWD for
Mountain Dew! Hey, is Pepsi an FK advertiser? I'd love to buy stock
in 'Dew...)

Personally, I'd rather have the show pushed back - but intact - than
have it run on time and the beginning portions cut off.


Love the calendars guys! ROFL...


  Katrinka:
  > ...artest that does spam mugs out of spam cans. Honest...

Got the address/phone for the artist? I wouldn't mind "spamming" Kay
with a spam mug! ROFL


  Dianne De Sha:
  > New Orleans, second week of Jan 1997

ROFMAO! Yep, that's a definite! <grin> As a brief explanation, the
Vampire: The Masquerade game that I'm currently in is set in New
Orleans, and my character is a Gangrel hacker. <g> (Gangrel are known
for shapeshifting, and man, I *love* the idea of shapeshifting...)
Sorta like visiting home, almost.


  Diane Echelbarger:
  > Please do *not* ues a manilla envelope larger than 8x11
  > for your SASE.

I realize Diane can't see this, but I'm posting this for everyone
else: What I did was I grabbed two Priority Mail 2-lb envelopes and
sent those. That way, whatever fits in will be mailed at the 2-lb
rate. It's $3 (granted, more than normal postage for a normal
envelope) but it saves worrying about whether you included enough
postage. Diane oughta get a kick out of it when she sees my envelope.
<grin>


  June Williams:
  > ..written to or faxed various and sundry print and electronic
  > media regarding the SOS campain...tell us who you attempted
  > to contact and what you sent them.

Okay, here's my list:



  Location Faxed       What Releases Sent          Date
  ================================================================
  Democrat&Chronicle   General                     1/2/95
  New York Times       Charity
  Detroit Free Press   General
  Jerry Springer Show  General & Charity
  US News & World...   General & Charity
  TSR                  Internet
  Strange Magazine     Charity, General, Internet
  Information Week     Internet
  Scrye                Charity, General, Internet
  ----------------------------------------------------------------
  Byte Magazine        Charity, Internet           1/2/95
  BIX Online           Charity, Internet
  ----------------------------------------------------------------
  Fortune              Charity, Internet           1/4/95
  City Newspaper       Charity, General, Internet
  Variety              Charity, General
  ----------------------------------------------------------------
  TV Times             Charity, General            1/5/95
  Village Voice        Charity, Internet

Please note the dates these were sent. I also didn't send them to any
specific person, nor did I include cover sheets. (my fax software's
major limitation, but then it's a few years old anyway) Thus, I don't
know that they actually got to anyone important enough to worry about.

I've done faxing since then, but only the "save FK" flyers and only
to businesses, not media houses.

Some duplication to these places might be in order, with specially
aimed cover sheets.

Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!!                 The Mad Fax Spammer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
    or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
     http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 1996 04:20:41 -0500
From:    "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Who needs a sex life?

  Lisa Sutherland-Fraser:
  >Old is sexy.

Hmmmpf. Depends on whether they LOOK old. <grin> I *will* agree on
the age/experience thing - it also gives older men the opportunity to
appreciate intelligent women.


  Eliot
  > But 1am, 2am, 3am; only the hookers, junkies, cops, and
  > those lucky enough to have night jobs are around at those
  > times!

Or the *truly* dedicated, 'PROFESSIONAL FK fans' who take naps ahead
of time so they're rested enough to stay up that late. <grin>


  Shadow:
  > ...what to send our crew in Toronto...The overall consensus
  > was Popcorn!

ROFL! Send a reminder of "the popcorn scene" from 1st season, just in
case it's slipped their minds with everything else that's going on.

And just in case you haven't seen 1st season, Basically, the scene is
with Nick and Nat on the couch in Nick's place, she's eating popcorn -
wearing a nightshirt, socks and not much else -  and he vamps out at
her.  Not pouncing, just sitting there, and suddenly the eyes change
and the fangs pop out. She gives a little shriek and backs up onto the
arm of the couch, then as Nick relaxes the "vamp look", she settles
back down and the camera shifts to Nick's face being bombarded with
popcorn, as he's smiling this absolutely GORGEOUS bemused smile, as if
to say "why is she hitting me with popcorn? I didn't do anything
WRONG..."  The word is this was an "ad libbed" scene, not in the
script, and was talked about continually for months in the FK
`newsgroups' on GEnie...<grin>

In fact, some of use "old-timer" fans who've been around since 1st
season still make jokes about "The Popcorn Scene"...

Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!!                 The Mad Fax Spammer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
    or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
     http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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