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Digest - 30 Jan 1996 - Special issue
30 Jan 1996
There are 35 messages totalling 1002 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Replacing Windows startup logo (was Ger Wallpaper)
2. NATPE / Nielsens (2)
3. A strange thought.. (2)
4. Things to do w/ junk mail...
5. Trying to locate
6. Episode Air Date
7. fanfic help, hospital thing too
8. media attention
9. Acronymonious (2)
10. Nick's NOT a Frenchman...but LaCroix IS a Roman
11. New Syndie
12. books -- the good old days
13. books (2)
14. Uses for SPAM
15. Tangled Web
16. SPOILERS: DoN
17. books -- the good old days; Nick's collection (2)
18. FK Back on USA?
19. Looking for certain people
20. OBNon-FKIC & YKYB... :-)
21. Shirtless scene
22. Titanic/ Breathing vampires
23. Roman Citizenship
24. Sounds of the Knighies
25. SOS: New AOL Area?
26. YKYBWTMFK-W
27. fk fan fic
28. Vicki's half-remembered scene
29. Nick's *NOT* a Frenchman
30. Ger on AOL
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:11:39 -0700
From: Gay Eckes <raven@r.......>
Subject: Re: Replacing Windows startup logo (was Ger Wallpaper)
>At 11:26 AM 1/29/96 -0900, Barbara wrote:
>>could you share the name of that program that replaces the windows
>>stratup with FK.
At 09:05 PM 1/29/96 -0800, Cherri wrote:
>YES! and could you do it on the list. Thanks.
FWIW, Brian Livingston's "Windows 3.1 Secrets" has the procedure in Chap.4,
pages 77-81. He uses one of the .bmp files that comes with Windows as an
example. Seems pretty straight-forward *but* I haven't tried it yet!
You need a graphics program that can convert a .bmp to a .rle file (a
compressed bitmap). He uses WinGif (shareware). Paint Shop Pro appears to do
it also.
Your own logo should be 640x480 in size to show full screen(VGA). The .rle
file can't be bigger than 55k. (A graphic with a solid background compresses
best)
The idea is to make your own personal version of the win.com file found in
the Windows directory. Win.com does 3 things:
Determines whether to start Windows in real,standard or enhanced mode.
Switches your PC into a graphics mode supported by your video card.
Displays the Windows advertising logo.
The section prior to the example discusses the win.com file and how to
*protect* it before doing any customizing. Well worth reading!
Later,
Gay Eckes raven@r....... gdeckes@i....... gdeckes@c.......
>>Just because I've ordered, doesn't mean I can't look at the menu . . .<<
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:10 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: NATPE / Nielsens
> She...reamed someone abou those FK people being at NATPE,
> and why were they here, and why did she know nothing about
> it. :-)
ROFLMAO!!! I wonder what her reaction was once she found out?
Methinks I'll have to save for NATPE next year... <grin> I wanna see
this stuff IN PERSON... <grin>
> If you happen to know any Nielsen's families...
Now seems as good a time to mention as any... (Gee, good thing I
copied this info, huh? <evil grin> Some days I'm as bad as a
cousin...)
If you want to try writing Nielsen's directly (I suggest also
CC:'ing the Nielsen letter to TriStar, USA, etc. so they're aware of
the support!!) here's the address:
John A Dimling
Nielsen Television Research
Xxxxxx 000
Xxxxxx, XX 00000-0000
0-000-000-0000 (# is for "any questions" about filling out the
ratings books, dunno how much use we could
put it to, but it certainly can't hurt! ;> )
AND, if anyone wants an ascii copy of the format I finally came up
with for semi-duplicating the information they're looking for, E-MAIL
ME DIRECTLY and I will zap a copy to you. Warning: It will be long!
It's about 5 pages, printed, unsure how much e-space (k'bytes) it
takes up. Or, if it would get "cut off" if sent entirely, let me know
when writing to me and I'll send it in parts. (Just give me an apx.
line count for max page lengths.)
If the WebGoddess wants to convert the ascii to HTML format, I'd be
happy to send the ascii. Sorry, I myself have not had time to teach
myself HTML even though I have a refernce sheet for it...
<--------------------------------------------------------->
Hubby had an awesome idea: A swimsuit/lingerie calender with Nick,
Nat, Janette and LaCroix in something silk and skimpy...
Of course we ALL know that we'll have the most trouble peeling NICK
out of clothes, but still, it makes a wonderful fantasy... <heh heh>
Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!! The Mad Fax Spammer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:30:31 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: A strange thought..
On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Mark L. Elliott wrote:
> Uncle and Tracy...incest??? Call me dense, but, I don't get it. :(
Agreed. 1) Uncle and Tracy wouldn't be incest. They aren't related in
the slightest.
2) I simply can't imagine why LaCroix would have any interest in
Tracy excepting in draining her, and he probably wouldn't do that because
of Nick. Tracy just doesn't strike me as the type that would elicit any
sort of curiousity of interest in LaCroix.
> Vachon and Nat...interesting, it would definitely make Nick stand up and
Can't imagine this one either. Nat isn't the type to go seek out a mad,
wild night of passion and this, IMO, is about all Vachon can offer. His
looks are great, inside isn't much. This is precisely why I don't think
that Janette would be terribly interested in Vachon, except as perhaps a
minor chew toy.
Now this is exactly what Nat needs, A flaming affair, but it doesn't
seem to be her way.
I can see Nat and LaCroix together before Nat and Vachon.
> Nick going off to be angst-ridden about never being able to give Nat what she
> needs.
The only interesting thing about this is that if Vachon could give Nat
what she wanted and/or needed, then it would be some evidence that Nick
is avoiding being close with Nat not so much because he is a vampire but
because of his own inherent Nick personality:
1. I am evil. I don't deserve her.
2. I will only hurt her.
3. If we can't have forever, then we can't have anything
4. Angst, angst, angst
5. I am a martyr. I must be punished. therefore, I can't have Nat.
Etc. etc. etc. It does get a little tiresome.
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:32:07 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Things to do w/ junk mail...
I got a piece of junk mail today (like whats new, right? <g>) for a
"secured" credit card. I was about to toss it away when I realized...
>>> it's got a postage paid envelope! <<<
So I stuffed it with 3 "save FK" flyers and will be mailing it
tomorrow. The application will get tossed (I don't need to send off
my money in the hopes that I get ANOTHER credit card...) but I
thought that was a perfectly neat thing to do with the return
envelope.
So how many cousins thought of THAT I wonder... heh heh heh...
My envelope for NATPE goodies will be on it's way later today...
Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!! The Mad Fax Spammer
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Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:37:53 -0600
From: "Susanne M. Clark" <sclark@u.......>
Subject: Re: Trying to locate
I also have a location problem. Paula Hurley, could you please e-mail me
privately? A hard disk crash has eaten all my mail!!
Susanne Clark
sclark@u.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:36:56 -0500
From: Chanda Keith <cwkeith@c.......>
Subject: Episode Air Date
Could someone please tell me when "Human Factor" is due to air? I have a few
innocent victims that I plan to convert to Mistress Janette with that episode.
Chanda Keith
Ravenette and Immortal Beloved
ckeith@u....... or cwkeith@c.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:57:04 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: fanfic help, hospital thing too
In a message dated 96-01-30 16:55:22 EST, you write:
>Iatrogenic is the term for a doctor or treatment created disease or problem.
> I don't know the term for "hospital created".
I wonder if they're talking about a "staph" infection? People can get staph
infections anywhere, but you always here about it in a hospital. The illness
*I* get when I go to the hospital is "Idontgotanyinsurance Syndrome"!
Also, could someone very patient and gentle and wonderful email me offline?
I need some fanfic help. I vowed to write a friend of mine some fanfic, but
I've never done it before and I'm new enough to FK that I'd get dates and
spellings wrong. I *love* this show and am in the process of weedling tapes
from people because I only got a VCR (a bad one) about two weeks ago!
Thanks!
Tippi (not entirely French, not entirely Belgian, just a little bit Welsh,
and a whole lotta crazy)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:57:11 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: media attention
Has anyone contacted EXTRA? They're that entertainment-related TV show.
They have an email address on AOL. They might be interested! Who knows?
*Cousin Tippi*
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:57:58 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Acronymonious
On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Celeste Hotaling-Lyons wrote:
> A sleep-deprived Jamie announced the meaning of her acronym:
> >C.O.U.S.I.N.:
> are of course in the midst of War 6 at the moment.) He's gonna be real, real
> upset with you, esp. after what (he believes) you did to him in War 5. I
> wonder if Uncle is the type to nurse a grudge. What do *you* think?
Tell Uncle that if it wasn't for Jamie's efforts (as well as the efforts
of all the incredible people who have worked so hard) he would have
ceased to exist by the end of February. Surely, she gets some points for
her making of the SOS-FK web page?
I thought that the SOS-FK _war_ the declared War 6, and that the next
fictional war will be 7? It isn't real important, but I kind of like
referring to this as War6.
> Don sez:
> >Not suitable for selling at a mere antique store, but he does have in a
> >box in his living room Joan of Arc's own personal cross.
>
> Ah, but owning is one thing, *proving* it, to sell it, is another.
One might be able to prove that the age was about right on the cross, but
anything after that? Nah.
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
"The mind of the son was so inferior to that of the father that he had
not a common understanding. He was sent to New Jersey, in America."
1772 biography of poet Edmund Waller
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:57:58 -0800
From: Alikhat <alikhat@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's NOT a Frenchman...but LaCroix IS a Roman
At 12:18 PM 1/30/96 EST, you wrote:
>Btw, we can't be certain that LaCroix is an Italian in modern terms.
>Yes, he was a Roman general, but that doesn't mean he was born in
>what is now Italy. As was pointed out, he could easily have been a
>native of Gaul. By the time of Pompeii, Gaul had been a Roman
>province, complete with Romanized local population and upper >class, for
several hundred years.
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Well, um, no.
Actually, Gaul did not become a Roman province until 51 BC after
Julius Caesar invaded and conquered the area in a series of bloody
battles known as the Gallic Wars. ( 58 -51 BC )
At this particular time, only free men born *in Rome* were granted
citizenship. Even other Italians were denied this priveledge. This was, in
fact, a huge bone of contention between Rome and it's allied states and was
a source of enormous hostility, culminating at last in the Marsic War (
90-88 BC ) wherein the Italian city states banded
together against Rome to force the point. As a result, citizenship was
expanded to include all Italians in 89 BC.
It would not be until 212 AD, 133 years after the eruption of
Vesuvius that the emperors Geta and Caracalla ( ruling jointly ) would sign
the Constitutio Antoniniana granting Roman citizenship to all free
inhabitants of the Empire.
So LaCroix might not been a native of the city of Rome, but he would
absolutely have had to be Italian. Furthermore, in order to rise to the rank
he occupied he would have required important familial ties in Rome proper.
If he himself was not a patrician, he would have had to have contractual
connections with a patrician clan.
As for his physical appearance; well, take a look at some of the busts of
actual Romans (not gods and mythological figures) and you'll find a wide
variety of facial features that often have nothing
at all to do with the stereotyped Roman "look". For instance, the Julians
(Caesar's line) were almost all blonde.
I, Alikhat ( alikhat@i....... )
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:06:04 -0500
From: Marianne Courtney <u1a00401@m.......>
Subject: New Syndie
Ooh, ooh, just found out yesterday from a friend at work that WPGH-TV in
Pittsburgh, PA, has started carrying FK. I don't know if they started
carrying it with the Strings episode or not but Jo. said that this past
Saturday's episode was Dead of Night. To make sure I just checked out next
week's TV Guide and it's there. YESSSSSS. They are airing it at 10:00 p.m.
Glory, glory. I now have access to TWO count em TWO channels.
On a sad note, I wish I HAD known about it earlier. Because of the <ugh>
Super Bowl, in order for WBOY in Clarksburg to carry their <sigh>
Infomercial on Psychics at 1:00 a.m. they did not show the tag of Dead of
Night. So I am going to have to definitely call them and ask them if they
know when they will be repeating the episode so I can finishing taping it.
BUT, I got another station, I got another station.
I am going to check at work tomorrow and see if I can find their address and
get is posted to the list so everyone in the viewing area of WPGH-TV,
Channel 53, Pittsburgh, PA, can WRITE them and THANK THEM, please. If
anyone out there can get their address sooner, please post it and send it to
the person in charge of the Syndie List.
BTW, I know that someone mentioned sometime last week that USA had been
getting some heat for shortening their boxing program to 1 hour and showing
FK at 9:00 p.m. on Tuesdays, but I wonder if its just coincidence that the
schedule was changed back with no warning after Ms. Koplovitz came back from
NATPE.
Oh, yeah, one more thing. WPGH-TV is one of our FOX affiliates around here.
Marianne Courtney
u1a00401@m.......
Joy, joy, X-Files on Friday and FK on Saturday
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:24:07 -0500
From: AC Chapin <sdragon@g.......>
Subject: Re: books -- the good old days
On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Jackie wrote:
> Would I sound like an "old fogie" if I say that I can remember the
> days when people used to actually sit down and *read*, quietly, by
> themselves, in a comfortable chair with a chocolate bar and 2 apples sitting
> next to them?
yeah... the good old days... waitaminute! that was yesterday! (well, ok,
no apples were involved) but I read John Gardner's _Grendel_ for the
zillionth time last night; I find that all this email doesn't cut into my
reading time, it just makes me read faster. (BTW, every FK fan who's read
Beowulf should read _Grendel_, not only is it brilliantly written, if you
cast Nick as Grendel and LaCroix as the Dragon... scary)
obFK: we know Vachon misses the good old days when you could just walk up
to a pretty girl and take her. What about the others? Does Nick miss
the good old days when you could drink cow straight from the cow? Does
Nat miss the good old days when dead people (no matter how cute) stayed
dead?
AC Chapin sdragon@g....... http://www.glue.umd.edu/~sdragon
...accused of being a young whippersnapper today...
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:22:59 +0300
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: Acronymonious
hey is there a war going on? Can i join?
toni m.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:41:47 -0800
From: Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: A strange thought..
At 02:32 PM 1/30/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Uncle and Tracy...incest??? Call me dense, but, I don't get it. :(
No, no, no...I *didn't* say it *would* be incest, I said it would
sort of *seem* like incest (big difference!) :) Believe me, I am in no way
"innocent" or prudish or even virginal (vvvbg), but...I have never really
seen what a fairly young woman wants with "older" men (aside from money,
assumed power, riding on coattails, assumptions of inheritance, exposure to
the "good life, etc.), and I do think LaCroix would qualify on that count!!
It would just seem sort of creepy to me.
On the other hand, now Natalie and Vachon (absolutely *nothing*
wrong with an older woman/younger man scene, btw :) ), that is definitely a
scene to pant over, or drool, or fantasize, or .....well, you get my meaning!
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...send your kid to Medical School.
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:44:17 -0500
From: Marianne Courtney <u1a00401@m.......>
Subject: Re: books
>At 11:21 AM 1/30/96 you wrote:
> Books? Books? Who has time for BOOKS what with all the FK mail,
>and FK fiction, and FK reruns, and FK letter writing, and FK fiction reading!!!
> Would I sound like an "old fogie" if I say that I can remember the
>days when people used to actually sit down and *read*, quietly, by
>themselves, in a comfortable chair with a chocolate bar and 2 apples sitting
>next to them?
>
Yes, I still read just as you wrote above. In fact that has been my way of
relaxing since I was 8 years old. I am frequently in the fkfic archives
looking for stories to download to read at my leisure. In fact I am going
to introduce a friend of mine, who just happens to work at our local paper
and likes FK to the fiction very shortly. She doesn't have access to the
net so I am picking out certain stories for her to read.
Marianne
u1a00401@m.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:57:42 -0500
From: Marianne Courtney <u1a00401@m.......>
Subject: Re: Uses for SPAM
>Deanna's mom:
>> A few minutes later, she said, "You know, you can polish your furniture with
>> SPAM."
>
>Oh my! I will *never* look at the can on my monitor quite the same
>way again!!!
>
>Dianne
>"It's a furnature oil *and* a dessert topp... <*EEEEW*!!! *shudder*>"
>
>
Hey, why, not. My father, who worked for Coca-Cola for 40 years, said that
when he was in the Army they used Coke to clean the bumpers on their
vehicles. And someone I knew when I was a kid told me that her dad used to
clean his windshield with it. But she also said he only really worked well
if you did it while it was raining. She said the combination of the rain
and the coke along with the swishing of the wipers really did the job. So
why not Spam for cleaning furniture. If you can get past the smell. <eg>
Marianne
u1a00401@m.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:17:10 +0300
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE / Nielsens
>
>Hubby had an awesome idea: A swimsuit/lingerie calender with Nick,
>Nat, Janette and LaCroix in something silk and skimpy...
>
don't forget Vachon (yummy!)
toni m.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:26:57 EST
From: Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Tangled Web
Well, I sent them a check on 1/12 for Hauntings, and received it today!!
Deanna
Devoted Knightie and Perkulator
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:16:38 -0800
From: Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: SPOILERS: DoN
[general oohs and ahhhhhhhhhs skipped as being too redundant by the
time I caught up to y'all... take 'em for granted at this point! <g>]
Comments from the audience at La Casa de Menikoff:
> "Nice wedding threads. He looks like the Stay Puff marshmellow man"
Laughed until I almost died at this one! Weren't they *awful*??? I
think I just sat there with my mouth hanging open unattractively
saying things like "Oh my *Goddess*!" and "Where are they getting
married-- *Disneyland*???" I expected happy bearded dwarves and
talking forest creatures to appear at any moment.
Felicia Bollin writes:
>--- *Yow*! Look at young Tracy! Shades of "the Brady Bunch", or what??
Oooooooh! Nasty War5 flashbacks to that whole "Vampire Bunch" subthread...
<*shudder*> <g>
Jackie Wagner stuns me by saying: <g>
> I fear this ep may be having the same effect on fen that the Halloween ep from
> Quantum Leap did...strange things happened...tonight my hubby and I were
Oooooh! I wasn't the only one thinking that then? <g> (Yeah, a light
suddenly flipped *on* on me at a critical moment... but it's an old lamp...
right??? :-)
Dianne
(I am *not* looking over my shoulder! ...wait! did _you_ hear something...?)
The No-Longer-Mad Ex-Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD
"Are you okay?" "I think I'm just a _little_ over-caffeinated."
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:23:41 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: books -- the good old days; Nick's collection
I truly thought that this post was from my Biblio listserv, and it wasn't
until I reached the bit about Nick that I dashed back up to the top and
realized it wasn't a bookseller lamenting the "good old days." :-)
On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, AC Chapin wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Jackie wrote:
> > Would I sound like an "old fogie" if I say that I can remember the
> > days when people used to actually sit down and *read*, quietly, by
>
> yeah... the good old days... waitaminute! that was yesterday! (well, ok,
> no apples were involved) but I read John Gardner's _Grendel_ for the
No apples involved, but a pot of tea and an armchair figure into the
equation.
> zillionth time last night; I find that all this email doesn't cut into my
> reading time, it just makes me read faster. (BTW, every FK fan who's read
e-mail cuts down on some reading for me, but also TV. I watch little TV
anymore. Unfortunately, some of the reading it cuts down on is homework
type reading. Not good.
> obFK: we know Vachon misses the good old days when you could just walk up
> to a pretty girl and take her. What about the others? Does Nick miss
> the good old days when you could drink cow straight from the cow? Does
> Nat miss the good old days when dead people (no matter how cute) stayed
> dead?
I suspect that Vachon backslides every now and then on the "taking the
pretty girl bit". We are supposed to like him, and that means that he
isn't a killer, but somehow, his moral precepts seem a bit weak to me.
That isn't fair. Not weak, just not like Nicks. If fresh human blood is
really as much better as the vampires imply on the show, I just don't see
Vachon doing without any more than I see LaCroix doing without. I think
they are just _much_ more careful than they used to be.
So far we have seen Vachon sitting in the Raven drinking Blood and,
presumably, wine, and carting up wine cases full of blood to show that he
at least has a regular, non-living, supply. However, my guess is that he
augments it from time to time.
Nick? er, no, I'm sure that was a rhetorical question. Nat? probably
so. There must be days, seriously, when Nat wishes that she had never
met Nick, at least that she didn't know he was a vampire and that
vampires existed. It must be a terrific burden at times for her.
On the Fk subject of books, it is hard for me to understand why Nick
doesn't have a library full of rare books. Of course, this is just
because I can't imagine anyone living through the times he did that
didn't develop a love of books. Silly, but what can I say. At times,
Nick had to depart quickly, but he seems to have fair amounts of some
items, like that cross from Joan of Arc. that's been carted around for
some 500 years.
So where are the books? I like to think that Nick has a large library in
one of his extra rooms that we've never seen on the show. I also suspect
that LaCroix would have a library of first editions of philosophers and
such, at least. Now LC isn't into possessions, per se, but he would have
no problem with abandoning things and then repurchasing them later.
Silly question # 253 - I have a memory of Nick looking through an entire
storeroom of stuff, piles of it. Is this from an episode or from fanfic?
--
Vicki - vmerrima@i.......
Nick "What are you doing here?"
LaCroix "Making your life a living hell, as usual"
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:33:26 -0800
From: Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: books -- the good old days; Nick's collection
Vicki Merriman asked:
>Silly question # 253 - I have a memory of Nick looking through an entire
>storeroom of stuff, piles of it. Is this from an episode or from fanfic?
This was fanfic. I have this feeling it's fanfic from Sharon Scott called
"Ordering the Past" with Nick doing a new year's resolution type thingie
and clearing out his storage shed and getting pretty freaked out by it in
the process.
In a related fanfic moment, Janette does an inventory of her jewelry in
another story written by Susan Garrett called "And memories, like
diamonds, shine."
Cynthia, ye old FTP site fiction goddess
choff@v.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:58:33 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: books
Actually Jackie,
I guess you DO sound like an "old fogie", but what's wrong with that? I DO
spend ling hours with a book, many books, AND chocolate, AND diet coke, AND
the sound track from Sleepless in Seattle, AND....well you get the gist.
I guess hopeless romantics just have to consider themselves 'old fogies' and
take what they can get....anyone read a good book lately? FK novel
perhaps.....:)=
Carrie,
Newbie Knightie
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:02:02 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: FK Back on USA?
OK, well they're advertising Tuesday Night Fights on USA right now so I
guess FK isn't going to be on.
*However* I just got my cable guide, and on a hunch I checked on Monday
night at 10pm (FK's *old* USA slot, the one where new eps of Silk Stalkings
is currently crashing and burning) and . . .
Lo and behold, Forever Knight is listed!!!!! Can someone check TV Guide,
etc. I simply refuse to believe that a network exec could actually get a
clue.
Sharon
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:59:47 -0500
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Looking for certain people
Who is the Genie contact?
Who is the Prodigy contact?
Who is keeping the Resolution list?
PLEASE contact me ASAP.
Regards
When we get a fourth season, the hair GOES.
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:43:31 -0800
From: Preta <preta@e.......>
Subject: Re: OBNon-FKIC & YKYB... :-)
>OBNon-FKFIC <g>: I could say it's for a fic, but I'd be lying
>:-) It's just been bugging me for _days_ now! And, as always,
>I have faith that The List Knows!
>
>*What's the term for a disease you catch _in_ the hospital?*
>
>There's a term... I _know_ there is!
Nosocomial
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:47:10 -0500
From: Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Re: Shirtless scene
At 10:03 PM 1/29/96 +0200, Marina Bailey wrote:
>Sandra Gray (who wouldn't mind seeing Nick's chest) wrote:
> Tm> there is a red drapery "artfully" draped in front of them so you don't
> Tm> see much beyond the very *upper* part of Nick's chest. :(
>
>Hey, I'll take it! :) Interesting to find out that this was only in the
FWIW, rumour has it that that the red drapery was at least partially dropped
in the German version of that episode.
>I was wondering, for those who saw the Canadian versions of FK first, how
>does seeing that version first colour your interpretation of the episodes?
I've only ever seen the Canadian versions of FK first season. I didn't know
until I signed onto these lists last year that the US versions were
different. IMHO, seeing the Cdn version gives you a fuller idea of the
characters. From what I've heard, most of the stuff that was cut dealt with
character development, not action.
The best example of this that I've come across is: someone once commented
on-list that Nick was a complete loner, not getting involved in anything --
going to official parties, BBQs, etc. I automatically responded, well what
about the tag scene in one 1st season episode (sorry, can't remember which
one), in which Nick goes to a police picnic. Turned out this scene wasn't
in the US version. Of course, this was also the one where Schanke was
talking to a little boy about playing baseball -- I had assumed this was
his son, only to be completely taken by surprise when it turned out that he
had only one kid and she was a girl named Jenny.
Jane (janes@i.......)
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Writing is easy -- just stare at the page until your forehead
bleeds (G. Horvath)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:48:14 -0500
From: Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Re: Titanic/ Breathing vampires
At 10:54 PM 1/29/96 -0500, Apache wrote:
> Submerged for the day -- actually was the explanation that
>occurred to me, then I figured he could sneak onto the Carpathia or
>something.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find themselves with a silly grin on
their face when they picture a vampire sneaking onto a ship named the
"Carpathia"?
For those rare few of you who are just looking at your screen blankly, and
have no idea what I'm talking about, the Carpathian mountains in
Transylvania are where the Dracula/vampire legends grew up.
Jane (janes@i.......)
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Writing is easy -- just stare at the page until your forehead
bleeds (G. Horvath)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:47:53 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Roman Citizenship
Alikhat, I admit I didn't make myself clear, but it was possible for
a Gaul to be a Roman citizen. It took an individual grant, but it was
regularly done for the local aristocracy as an inducement to Romanize.
This was done more or less en masse in Gaul in the generation after
the conquest.
The grant was done by or in the name of the Emperor, which is why you
get so many Gauls with Julius and Claudius in their names. It was
customary to add the new citizen to the Emperor's clan.
Another way someone with Gaulish ancestory could be a Roman citizen
was by being the son of one of those Roman legionaries who were encouraged
to marry local women and settle down in conquered territories.
I admit I didn't check on the point at which all adult men in the
empmire became citizens, but it didn't occur to me that anyone would
think I meant Lucius (LaCroix's original name) was a citizen because
I thought all men in the Empire were. Sorry -- I'm just so used to knowing
that wasn't true that I never thought of stating it.
And yes, I'm familiar with Roman portrait busts.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:21:00 EST
From: Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: Sounds of the Knighies
Jason Ryan wrote:
>> Well here's some more sounds of the "Knighties"(snerf)
>where do you get these sounds, they SOUND pretty cool:)
I think most of them can be found by ftping to cac.psu.edu/pub/people/lms5
Maryann Jorgensen majorge@i.......
***********************************************************************
Nat: "Look, I know you're a figment of my imagination, but you have to
stop sneaking up on me!"
Mulder to Scully: "Go ahead, I know you love to slap on the latex."
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:43:55 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: SOS: New AOL Area?
Guys, here's a golden opportunity:
AOL just inaugurated an area called "AOL Canada". It has sections for TV
Canadian and American, to paraphrase, as well as a couple other useful ones.
Problem: I don't have the memory to run the AOL web browser.
So, who wants to run on over there, check it out and maybe post some info?
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:00:42 CST
From: "OREL, SARA" <FA55@n.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFK-W
You KNOW you have been watching too much FK when (or at least reading
WAY too much of the list)...
The current Ancient Near East discussion list is titled "WHAT???!!!
Bricks Again?!" and you stop and think -- I know Forkni-l is on digest,
so I shouldn't be getting individual posts. My favourite titles (they
are doing a bibliography and discussion of brick size (no snide remarks,
please) are of an article titled "L'origine de la brique dans le Proche
Orient ancien" and "Plano-convex Bricks and the Methods of Their
Employment" hmmm... a human body could easily be classified as
plano-convex (back and most tummies); I wonder if Nick is looking for a
job again.
Tittering away in the back of class...
Mercenarily yours,
Sara
Oh, and by the way, my vote for how Nick survived the Titanic disaster
is as one of those on the back of Collapsible B with Lightoller. I am
not sure that a really detailed discussion of this is appropriate here,
but if anyone is interested, I would be happy to explain how Lightoller
could have been happy even to have a vampire help him... I wonder if
they knew (not that anyone could have remotely cared at that point). It
was clear and sunny by the next morning, and this was the last boat to
be emptied -- by this time Nick would have been crispy crittered. He
probably dragged himself on board the Carpathia earlier (just slid off
the collapsible as if he was dead and then appeared on the Carpathia in
the confusion -- the Carpathia arrived on the scene and started picking
up lifeboats by 4 am). Oh well, Titanic trivia is one of my things...
Along with vampires and profit, that is!
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:28:38 -0800
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: fk fan fic
Is anyone else having trouble getting fan fic from the forever knight web
site? I can't get it to pull up.
Heather
penni@w.......
Knightie, Nick/Nat Packer
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:28:59 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Vicki's half-remembered scene
Vicki (vmerrima@i.......) said:
> Silly question # 253 - I have a memory of Nick looking through an entire
> storeroom of stuff, piles of it. Is this from an episode or from fanfic?
Well, it could be that you're remembering the first season episode "1966,"
in which Nick spends a fair amount of the episode digging through the
basement archives of a library in East Berlin.
Most notable line in this episode (at least in the Canadian version) --
an old man opens some canned meat or pate and spreads it on a cracker.
A woman asks him what it is. The old man sniffs it, and declares,
"I do not know what it is, but it not schtink!"
Yes, he did say it like that. "schtink!"
FWIW, the canned meat in question was probably not SPAM. I don't think
they had SPAM in the German Democratic Republic in 1966.
I think this part of the scene was cut in the American version. Tragic,
isn't it?
One more thing -- in "Outside the Lines" there is a flashback that takes
place during WWII, when Nick was with the French Resistance. I just
re-watched this episode and could swear I remember more of this
flashback than I saw in the episode. Is there another French Resistance
flashback in a different episode somewhere? Specifically, do we see Claude
again? This has been driving me crazy and pretty soon I'll be
reduced to re-watching every single episode to find that flashback.
(*That* would be tragic, wouldn't it?) ;)
...wishing the flashback timeline were a bit more up-to-date... :(
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* __o Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity! *
* _`\<,_ Contact me to pledge support or join the ride. For info *
* (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html *
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:30:41 -0800
From: Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's *NOT* a Frenchman
At 12:46 PM 1/30/96, Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......> wrote:
>The area that was Brabant in Nick's time (ca. 1200-1228) is now in
>Belgium, so if you want to give him a nationality in modern terms,
>Nick's a Belgian.
So you mean that Nick is a d*mn "Belgique" vampire? ;)
Sorry, my little grey cells are hurting me... just think, Hercule Proiut as
a vampire... ouch!
Elizabeth
elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a.......
Methos Flagwaver |~~~~~~~~~
Merc (What do you expect? I'm a starving student!)
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life
http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:50:47 -0700
From: Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Ger on AOL
I don't have an AOL account, so could some kind soul please send me a copy?
BTW, I just learned how to create web pages, and I have included a link to
the Save FK page. Jamie, is that okay? I haven't come across any
legalities on the issue.
Falcon Storm
Cousin/Knightie/Vaquera
satori@m.......
http://www.mt.net/~satori/Falcon
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