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Digest - 26 Jan 1996 - Special issue

26 Jan 1996

There are 29 messages totalling 1013 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. SOS effects in my neck of the woods
  2. Blooper tape
  3. Crew/staff/cast gift idea (2)
  4. Digests
  5. Grumblings...
  6. Tape Tree - Please help me!
  7. Does KTBC-Channel 7 in Austin still show FK? (2)
  8. Ger Chat Saturday Jan 27th, 10:00 PM
  9. Definition of Gaffer
 10. Bourbon, and other vamps list (2)
 11. Perkulators
 12. spam catalog and kudos to all
 13. NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw, we kicked a little *elbow*! :-) (2)
 14. getting listserv help
 15. The Sacred Brown Liquid
 16. NATPE Strike Force
 17. Oops
 18. Gemini tape tour?
 19. Nightcrawler/Ratings
 20. NATPE pamphlets
 21. LaCroix is sexier.
 22. The NATPE Quote List -or- Did We Really Say That?
 23. Tape giveaway contest
 24. More Blood & More Letters
 25. NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,              we kicked a little
     *elbow*! :-)

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:27:33 -0500
From:    "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Re: SOS effects in my neck of the woods

On Jan 26, 1996 10:29:45, '"Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>' wrote:

>You couldn't have seen me more suprised. These guys are tenured
>been-working-for-the-university-longer-than-you've-been-alive
>kind of old Finnish guys with an attitude. So I say "Yeah, what
>do you know about it?"

Yep, we Finns are famous for two things.  a really weird version of the
tango which is a social staple there, and attitude.  Yep, that's us! <g>

My favorite NATPE 7 story is the one about the guy who wistfully lamented
that he wished fans would have fought for *his* shows like we're fighting
for FK!  Fred's right--we are the best fans in the world, and if TriStar
doesn't know that then we'll just have to beat it into them! <g>

Off to give Jon Feltheimer another round of my $0.02--Jasmine's story of
the Finnish guys has me all whipped up now!

Sharon

--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........  Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:32:04 -0800
From:    Leah Thompson <thomplc@m.......>
Subject: Blooper tape

I'm thrilled to hear about the NAPTE efforts.  This is wonderful.  I was
wondering if someone could e-mail me about getting my fangs into that
bloooper tape...

Thanks,

Leah

Leah Thompson                                       Faculty Support Coordinator
Information Technology
Washington State University             "This e-mail has been brought to you
thomplc@m.......                      straight from the Pacific Northwest."

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:44:14 EST
From:    Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Crew/staff/cast gift idea

Unfortunately I didn't think of this until yesterday, when it was too
late to see if I really could get one made locally.

It would have made an interesting gift to get a dart board made with
USA's logo on it! <evil grin>

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:55:03 -0500
From:    Carla Pickering <carlap@e.......>
Subject: Digests

Help.  Proper format for requesting <Digest> from Listserv???  I have to
compact my mail a bit--I'm getting this at work.  Thanks.

Carla/Crowhawwk at
<Caer Kadau y Gi>
Recently Realized Ravenette and
Closet Cousine with Knightly leanings

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:03:46 -0800
From:    Russell Kurtz <russtms@e.......>
Subject: Grumblings...

I got a message yesterday that someone had set me to "nomail."
Could somebody please illuminate me as to why this was done, and why
I had to be notified by the list server rather than the person who
changed my options?

Thanks!
Russ Kurtz

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:04:32 -0500
From:    John Ewan <jwe@m.......>
Subject: Tape Tree - Please help me!

Apache told me someone was organizing a Tape Tree to try and provide tapes
of the episodes USA has chosen to skip in their descent into the morass of
the Lowest Common Denominator.  Please email me with particulars; I'l be
happy to provide postage and tape costs to see the next episodes.  Thanks!
and extra thanks to Apache!

John Ewan, jwe@m....... *Ratpack*  The "Forever Knight" show has been
cancelled on USA; ask your local station running the syndicated "Forever
Knight" to request the 4th season at NATFPE convention; check this URL!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:17:27 -0600
From:    Teresa J Warren <teriw@t.......>
Subject: Does KTBC-Channel 7 in Austin still show FK?

Just a question for those in Austin:  I haven't been able to find FK on
KTBC Channel 7 for several weeks.  Did the station drop it since it's
been at least semi-cancelled or what?


Thanks,


Gary L. Warren
(living in the boonies of Central Texas!  ;D)

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:19:31 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Ger Chat Saturday Jan 27th, 10:00 PM

For those of you who have been technologically challenged, the Ger chat will
be on AOL in the OMNI Colliseum at 10:00 PM (EST), Saturday, January 27th.

The FORMAL chats are a bit different than the free-for-all Monday night and
end of Month meething (EOM meeting is 10:00 PM, Remote Control, Sunday,
January 28th).  When you arrive, you are assigned a ROW #.  You can move to
another row, but rows can usually hold a maximum of 8 people (it won't let
you in if the row is full).

When you post a message, the guest and the moderator do not see that
message, only the other people in the row.  To post a question to the guest,
you use the INTERACT button, then type your message and send it.  It will be
sent to the moderator, who passes it along to the guest.

My advice is to come early.  At the aborted chat last weekend we had 300
people show.

Regards

susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Faithful Ravenette, because somebody STILL has to.
Save Forever Knight!  More info at the web page at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:52:55 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Definition of Gaffer

GWD is sexier! (pant!)

Although, really, shouldn't the choice have been between LC and Nick?

In that case, Nick is sexier! (pant!)

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie for obvious (and other) reasons :)
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:59:50 -0600
From:    Ninianne <copelasa@v.......>
Subject: Re: Bourbon, and other vamps list

>Also, I haven't
>included Jody or the Dog from "Blind Faith" because they weren't
>vampires, they were carouche (the spelling isn't quite known).

>Screed            SPOILER     ?          Black Buddha 2

OK, You don't list the lady and her dog, even tho you list Screed who both
Nick and Javier classify as a carouche?  And Nick just said they were a
"lesser class of vampire",  I don't see why they should be left of the list.
Vampires is Vampires, they suck the blood of the living, or drink it from a
bottle.

Samantha

    copelasa@v.......   &   COPELASA@c.......
    http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~copelasa/
            |     "This isn't an Olympic event, there's no medal
            /~\     for coming in second." --- Duncan MacLeod
     Oxxxxx|  (|=========================-
      \____/\_/   "I don't tan, I don't burn, I implode."
            |                         --- Nicholas de Brabant

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:05:59 -0800
From:    "Toni C. Holm" <tch@w.......>
Subject: Perkulators

Laura/Apache said:
>        Incidentally... who was the Lone Perkulator who went before me?
>I should be deferring in some appropriately perky fashion to this leader,
>and have no figurehead for my obeisance.  Or something.

        PartlyK was the lone Perkulator in War V.  We've all been wondering
where she is.  Come out wherever you are Becky, you've got quite a crowd
waiting <g>.

                -Toni   <tch@w.......>

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:55:26 +0000
From:    Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: spam catalog and kudos to all

Well, been ignoring my mail for almost a week. Just spent two hours
going through 660 message in forkni-l.  My, oh my..we are prolific.
Kudos and mahalo to all to all the great work trying to save FK.  I'm
about to put my checks in the mail for charity, the ad, the goody
bags, etc...

One last thing...Did one of you lovely wags send me a "Spamtastic"
catalog???  Just got it in the mail.  It's got spam silk ties, spam
athetic clothing, beach chairs, promotional posters, banks, ad
nauseum (and I *do* mean "nauseum.")  And I HATE SPAM.  If anyone
would *like* it, drop me a message and I'll be happy to snail mail it
to you.  Yuck.  (Just a thought...I wonder if they could special
order some little spam vampires.  ewwwww.)

sandy     martino@m.......     "The sun detests thought."  O. Wilde

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:09:12 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,
         we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)

USA's 10:00 PM timeslot put FK up against some strong network shows
(Chicago Hope, football).  In this area, Voyager airs at 8:00 PM
Mondays (EST).  I watch FK in syndication *first* because I can see
it before USA's telecast (it airs early Monday morning here), but I
also have watched USA.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:48:43 -0500
From:    "[M A Martin]" <mmartin@b.......>
Subject: getting listserv help

If you have a question about subscription options (like how to get
digests) you can ask the listserv itself for help.

Simply send the message

info refcard

to listserv@p....... and you will get a LOT of information back. I'm
not sure if all the options are available for the FK lists, but it is
worth a look here before you bother the entire list.

And if you still can't figure it out, feel free to email me for specific
questions (or you can talk to one of the list admin types).

Meg                                (mmartin@b.......)

A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg. Samuel Butler (1877)
as found in _There Goes Archimedes_ by S Harris and SN Arseculerane p.63

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:25:21 U
From:    Celeste Hotaling-Lyons <celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......>
Subject: The Sacred Brown Liquid

                       Subject:                               Time:1:18 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          The Sacred Brown Liquid                Date:1/26/96

RE:  A Fitting Vessel For The Sacred Brown Liquid Of The Gods

Hoo-ray for the NATPE 7 Elbow-kickers!  Sounds to me like y'all female-bonded
real good this weekend!  I'm keeping your tales on a disk, to have and to keep
and to chortle over in years to come.  :-)

Now there is something I must get off my chest...

I WANT, I WANT, I WANT, I WANT A FOREVER KNIGHT MUG WITH A MUNCH TAKEN OUT OF
IT FOR MY CAW-FEEEEEEEE!!!!!  *sob*  :-O

*Whew*!  There, I feel much better now, having got that off my chest.  I
cannot believe TPTB will not sell these sorts of goodies to us!  What ever
happened to Capitolism?  They have a goodie we want, we give them money and
get it.  (If you sell it, they will buy.)  Any idea who we can write to, to
buy some of the cool stuff described by the NATPE guerilla force?

Cousine Celeste
celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:10:36 +0100
From:    "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: NATPE Strike Force

Dianne, Diane, Debbie, Cherri, Angela, Catherine, and Toni:  You guys (and
everyone else who has kicked *elbow* for this show) give new meaning to the
word FANtastic!! Thanks for doing such a terrific (if sneaky) job representing
us!

Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......>

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:21:52 -0600
From:    A Bit of Deb and Geoff <gebbie@e.......>
Subject: Re: Does KTBC-Channel 7 in Austin still show FK?

On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Teresa J Warren wrote:

> Just a question for those in Austin:  I haven't been able to find FK on
> KTBC Channel 7 for several weeks.  Did the station drop it since it's
> been at least semi-cancelled or what?

Yes, they do. It used to show at 11pm on Sunday, but they *moved* it to 3pm
 on Sunday afternoon. Channel KVC13 (which KTBC owns), also shows it
Saturday night at 9pm.
  We should probably consider ourselves lucky. KTBC has always shown FK
at a decent time, whereas most other FK fans seem to get it 2am, or some
such other evil time.


-Deb Martin
 gebbie@e.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:27:19 -0600
From:    A Bit of Deb and Geoff <gebbie@e.......>
Subject: Oops

I'm *so* sorry, my reply to that KTBC post should have been sent private
email. I can't think very clearly today because of a death in my
immediate family.

My sincere mea culpas.


-Deb Martin
 gebbie@e.......

"Psychos don't explode when sunlight hits 'em, I don't care how crazy
they are!" -- From Dusk Till Dawn

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:34:16 -0800
From:    Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,
         we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)

On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, vicki jean merriman wrote:

> Why were you kicked out and where were you standing?  Was it because you
> didn't have official NATPE memberships.  In retrospect that seems

In a word, yes.  Dianne and I were at the top of the elevator (the only
one, which you have to go up if you want to get to the booths, and are
too lazy to take the huge staircase, which everyone was ;), and there was
a guy passing out things in the same place, and he got booted at the same
time we did.  Right now, I'm guessing that we really were okay, but
they'd gotten so much grief from some people on Tues who were campaigning
for a food drive, that they acted first and thought later.  But as I
said, not all of us were kicked out, and even though he said we couldn't
pass anything out on the whole grounds, we all just went outside and had
not problem for the rest of the day.

> obvious, but it _never_ occurred to me when all this was discussed before.

Well, I would think it should have occured to the person from NATPE who told
us it would be no problem, but that's just me. :)

> 7 by 75 bags?  you must have bunches of bags left over.  Do the people
> who donated to Laurie get one?

No, we were actually all passing out bags the full 8 hours the convention
was open, it's just that about half of us moved outside instead of being
right in the lobby (which was just as good, whether you hit them inside
walls or outside).

> Catherine wrote:
> > okay.  After a few hours, the security guy directing cars across
> > from me started talking, and he offered to trade jobs ($12.75 an
>
> What a good idea.  Get the security guy on _YOUR_ side :)

Yeah, I was getting support from the security guys, the cabbies driving
by ("Hey, how's the bag business?"), and all the executives at 5 coming
back out the same door, who all said "Wow!  I got a bag from you this
morning.  You're *still* here?"  Hey, maybe it'll make them look a little
more closely at those flyers. :)

> ooo ooo  ooo!  Shriek.  That is just _so_ exciting.  TriStar really
> really knows who we are.  he actually stopped and came back.  Just
> guessing, I'd have to say that is really really unusual in and of itself.

Yeah, he's the only guy I saw who actually passed by, stopped, turned
around, and came back.  And when we talked to the FK PR lady, it sounded
very much from the gist of what she said that FK is really being talked
about over the coffee breaks at TriStar.  She emphasized that, and kept
coming back to it, that everyone there is amazed and pleasantly surprised
by all the tremendous response from what they originally considered a
poorly watched show.

> > way, but there's an entrance through the bathrooms that works
> > extremely well) and checked out all the booths.  There was a
>
> Aha. Je comprends.  You snuck in :)

You betcha! :)  We've got Angela to thank for finding such a handy (and
well-used!) solution. :))

> What I really don't understand is why it failed at USA?  With the changes

Oh dear.  Now you've done it. :)  This is one of the questions they made
us memorize in case we were ever asked.  Just sit back now...

The reason USA dropped the show is because they thought that no one was
watching it, based on the ratings they were getting.  But the real story
is that most people started watching the show when it was in
syndication.  And, while USA brought in an entirely new audience when it
aired there, those who started watching on their syndies, kept watching
on their syndies.  Hence the illusion of low ratings.  But now that USA's
not going to air it anymore, all those new fans will need a home.  And
wouldn't you like it to be your station? :)))

I apologize to the listowners in advance, I think I'm going to end up
going over my post limit, too.  I think I'm the only one around who's
caught up on my mail! :)  At any rate, I'll try to answer as many
questions as I can.

Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone                 catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
 themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:37:30 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Bourbon, and other vamps list

        Vachon's age:  481 according to Ben Bass.  491 if you add years
since brought over (464) plus Ben Bass' age, 27.

L.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:33:00 PT
From:    Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Crew/staff/cast gift idea

yes the logo and a picture of Kay K. in the center (or at least a nametag
with her name on it). Wish I knew how to do it.

Tami LaFrank                 : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a.......
Forever Faithful Ravenette   : King Arthur ran the first (K)Night club.
The Raven Health Spa         : Never play Leapfrog with a Unicorn.
"Dying to prolong your life" : Celibacy is not Hereditary.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:39:32 PST
From:    Valery King <kingv@c.......>
Subject: Gemini tape tour?

Since I've got a satellite dish, I have access to a couple Canadian
satellites and plan to watch and tape the Gemini awards.

And, being a nice but fairly busy person, I thought I'd make the offer of
something that was done last year for the Due South listfolks: instead of
copying for an enless number of people, I would instead offer my tape for a
Forever Knight Gemini Tape Tour.

How this works: I will take names/addresses of people interested in
receiving this tape. It will go out to you in order of receipt of request
in this way: I shall mail it (via priority mail--cost is $3) to the first
person on the list, who will IN A TIMELY MANNER watch/copy said tape, and
mail it immediately onto the next person on the list.

This way you may make copies of the pieces or the whole show if you wish,
or simply just watch it. Invite friends over; have a party! Zap past the
boring parts, or watch the whole thing, whatever strikes your fancy (Due
South is up for 15 awards, so if you're also a DS fan you might want
especially to get in on this). But it will only work if everyone cooperates
and does a minimum of a 3-day turnaround, and mails via priority mail.
You'd all have to agree to that up front to get on the list for the tour.

Who's interested? I could also possibly make a "FK Highlights" tape of the
show to send around to a second list, if there's enough interest, but the
drawback is it would be a copy and wouldn't reproduce very well.

And would anyone else with satellite, or some of our Canadian listmembers,
want to help out with their own tapes as well? Let me know.

Email me at my OTHER account (kingv@u.......) if you'd like to be
included. I'll keep a list, in order of receipt, as well as a list of
anyone else willing to provide tapes for the tour, and we can get it
started March 4th.

--Valery
kingv@c.......
kingv@u.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:08:00 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Nightcrawler/Ratings

I remember someone once hunted around for interest for a Nightcrawler tape.
What's up with that?  Because I am interested.

Also, who's in charge of keeping track of the ratings?

Falcon Storm
Knightie/Cousin/Vaquera
satori@m.......
                                        LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:09:40 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: NATPE pamphlets

I don't know who folded the pamphlets but the entire list should send the
biggest, the most incredible thank you that anyone has ever received to
them.  The pamphlets were perfectly folded in precision thirds.  Every time
I looked at them.  Every time I handed one to another person, I stood a
little taller because they were so incredibly professional looking.

THANK  YOU!      THANK  YOU!      THANK  YOU!

Of course, I would be remiss if I didn't say that same thing to whoever did
the actual designing of the pamphlets.

All of you...STAND UP....TAKE a BOW.

The NATPE Strike Force's job was easy when you had these pamphlets and the
sturdy, double thick FK bags.

One of the most thrilling sights at NATPE was to see someone carrying our bags.

But, the most thrilling sight at NATPE was to see someone carrying our bags

                   CHOCK   FULL  of  NATPE  GOODIES!

We thanked everyone who carried them or said they had a bag.

OK List.  NOW everyone stand up and take a bow.

Without your support, ** no ** mention of FK would have happened at NATPE.
It would have died without a second thought.

Forever Knight was NOT forgotten at NATPE.
In fact, it will be talked about for years to come and remembered.

They will be shaking their heads and wondering ** how ** so many people
throughout the country and the world could organize so quickly into a
coherent force and be able to speak loudly enough that they were heard.

We may or may not get the fourth season but we will be remembered.


Thank you for the warm fuzzies we received while in Vegas.
The flowers...the cookies....the chocolate   --       It was fabulous!

As for chocolate.  I wish I had a picture of Dianne the Merc when she
discovered the chocolate.  <bounce> <bounce> <bounce>   She's was estatic!

Again...  THANK  YOU!      THANK  YOU!      THANK  YOU!  from the NATPE
strike force.

Cousin Cherri




"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......>  FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FOREVER
KNIGHT!Checkout:http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:23:35 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: LaCroix is sexier.

At 12:52 PM 1/26/96 -0500, Sandra Gray wrote:
>GWD is sexier! (pant!)
>
>Although, really, shouldn't the choice have been between LC and Nick?
>
>In that case, Nick is sexier! (pant!)
-----------------------------------------------
No! No!

LC is definitely sexier. <pant> <pant> <pant>

but if you want to talk about the actors then:

NB is sexier.  He moves like poetry in motion.  Yum!

     AND   HIS   VOICE!

                          .....Need I say more!


"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......>  FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FOREVER
KNIGHT!Checkout:http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:56:49 -0800
From:    Angela Yung-Ju Lai <resa42a@u.......>
Subject: The NATPE Quote List -or- Did We Really Say That?

Hallo! To follow up the wonderful missive that Catherine
compiled, here is the official (well, more or less) NATPE
Quote List! Keep in mind, of course, that we did not actually
have a clipboard handy when comments were being made, so I am
going mostly on memory here. Anything that might not really
have been said can be attributed to my overly active
imagination, I have taken many liberties in putting this thing
together.

The beginning, the beginning...

About three hours into the trip, whilst flitting through
the Mojave Desert, Angela starts whimpering and finally
bursts out in tears: "Turn the car around, I miss my computer!!"
To which Cherri answers by drawing attention to her
twitching fingers: "I need a keyboard...NOW!"
The other members of the LA contingent surreptitiously
turned their heads the other way to avoid making similar
comments, while Catherine got a really smug look on her
face, knowing that her laptop was riding along in the trunk.

Upon arriving at the Vagabond Inn (it wasn't the MGM Grand,
but it had its own quaint charms), located conveniently
next-door to the Sands convention center. Being the foolish
newbie I was, the first thing I said when I got out was:
"Shouldn't someone be keeping a quote list?" Followed by
a series of groans, which alerted me to my fatal mistake.
Debbie remarks: "Quote list? You can't expect me to harrass
people to my full potential and be witty at the same time!"
The group turns to me as one and issues their sentence:
"You were the first person to bring it up, you have to do it."
And here I am.

All during the check-in-get-the-luggage-and-get-to-our-rooms
process, we must not forget Cherri bouncing along perkily and
chirping repeatedly: "I can't believe we're here, I can't believe
we're here! I can't believe we're here!"  <insert dirty look
Cherri gives to anyone saying she's perky here, g, phhhtttf>
Perkulators, be alerted: there is recruiting potential here.

On arriving at the room, the first thing Catherine does is whip
out her trusty laptop and start typing away, intent on sending
an update to the list. Angela, after six or so hours of computer
deprivation on the trip there, walks reverently up to the laptop
and stares intently at it before daring to reach out a hand and
touch it. "Have you named it yet?" To which Catherine brushes
my annoying self off with "Of course, what fool wouldn't?"

During the rehearsal session held in Fearless Leader Diane's
room after returning from the Land of Buffets:

"So are you a fan?"
Dianne: "No, I hate the show and only took off time from work
and paid my way here for the novelty of getting to annoy you."

"What would I say to my fundamentalist viewers out there?"
"Forever Knight takes religion very seriously."
Angela: "Yeah, tell them we're satanic worshippers who'll come
over and start building bonfires and dancing outside on their
lawns if the show's not renewed. <polite smile>"

"Hey, where did Toni go?"
"Dunno, she said she was just going to check her luggage."
"That was half an hour ago."
<A rather awestruck silence ensues>
A quiet, trembling voice breaks through: "She's been eaten
by an Elvis impersonator!"

Our rooms had windows facing out picturesquely onto the
strip and particularly the Treasure Island resort's
Buccaneer Bay Show (which plays every half hour or so)
We drifted off to sleep with the sounds of cannons firing,
ships sinking and various people yelling through bullhorns
"Arrrghhh...Avast, ye matees!"

Wednesday morning, an hour before the start of the convention.
A trip to the QuickieMart next door for milk brings a pleasant
surprise. Along one whole wall of the store is a large
collection of Elvis paraphrenelia. Toni (or was it Dianne?):
"Donuts and keychains of The King...we're in FoD heaven!"

During the convention...

While the rest of the group stationed themselves by the elevators
and various other places in the lobby, Toni and I marched up to
the guards with a cargo of bags and brochures (Diane's right,
they're much too nice to be called flyers) and proceeded to
deliver them to the nice ladies at Paragon. Toni spent time trying
to befriend the guard who escorted us, while I was having my own
personal troubles involving trying to keep my too-short skirt from
sliding up too much. A few guys at one of the booths was smiling a
little too broadly at me and I didn't want to look *too* much like I
belonged in Vegas, y'know.

Arriving back to meet up with the rest, we found out that they
had been asked to stop distributing flyers. However, since *we*
had not been approached yet by said security people, it was decided
that we would continue to nonchalantly do so. I was sent off to
hit the bathrooms, leaving brochures in every stall if nothing else.
All the while keeping an eye out, of course, to see if I could find
any passerbys that happened to have their official badges clipped on
loosely enough for me to *borrow* them. Like someone said, if we
couldn't afford them, we had to find other means of procuring them,
correct?

The bathroom I was going to was being serviced, so I was directed
to the next one, which, luck would have it, was in the main exhibition
area. The guard was about to stop me, but immediately skirted the
subject when he was told my reason. Being a female in search of the
facilities can have its advantages. I cheerfully brochured all the
stalls, then decided to do the exhibition areas while I was at it.
All the free stuff bins were hit, as well as any rack that looked
like it had could contain literature at all. Yes, I made sure to leave
a particularly large stack <snicker> (where the reps couldn't see them
but the customers sure could) at the USA booth.

After covering the two floors and on my way back to the lobby to
regroup, I discovered a passageway that the guards had conveniently
forgotten. This would prove to be our main means of entering the
exhibit area, thus eliminating our need of the pesky identification
badge. True, they actually checked when we tried to get into the
Tri-Star booth the first three times, but eventually we even got into
there. That was around the time when Toni and Catherine were meeting
the polite-but-exhausted PR rep.

Most of this has already been covered by the rest, so I'll just skip
right ahead. Highlights included:

- Toni chasing after every television camera to come into sight.

- The VR Troopers (oooh!), the Power Rangers (aaahh!), and
  various other people dressed in large fuzzy costumes. Shades
  of Disneyland, anybody?

- Dropping a couple of FoFK business cards in every bowl we
  could find that would accept them.

- "Was that lady wearing a costume?" "Which lady wearing a costume?"
  "That one." "Oh, I thought you were talking about the two over
  there." "No, there's another one over there." "You mean that one
  by the stairs?" "No, the *other* one.." Ah, Las Vegas. Even those
  of us that live in LA, mecca of weirdness, were startled sometimes.

- A lunch break, during which Toni and Cherri encountered a convenience
  shop in Treasure Island and hurriedly snap up pairs of insole cushions.
  Cherri to the cashier: "You carry Dr. Shoals...my feet could kiss you."

I didn't pass out nearly as much bags and brochures face-to-face as
the rest of the team (I admit I spent most of the time canvassing the
exhibition floor with my brochures instead of doing the really dirty
work...sorry!). However, I did meet a nice lady from an Arizone
station who said the only reason she started working there was because
that station was showing FK. She was immediately directed over to the
Tri-Star booth. As a whole, we definitely made an impression at that
convention. I overheard some exec mentioning that he had seen
"those FK people with the brochures" popping up almost everywhere,
no escape, so we must've made some impression. Good work, guys!

Well, after more schmoozing around and such, we came back
to the hotel to change. Sighs of relief resounded as heels
were tossed across the rooms and various people ran to the
sinks to remove make-up. In my particular room, Catherine
spent half the time applying bandages to her tired footsies,
Dianne was staring blissfully at the bottle of make-up
remover and I was wondering whether my toes turning purple
was a good or bad thing.

Four more hours passed before we were off again as a group.
There have been various versions circulating of what happened
when we split up, but as I recall it, Dianne and her apprentice
sneak Cherri were stacking brochures inside the publicly visible
lobbies of various hotels, Debbie and I went by the Las Vegas
Hilton (where she won $100, no less!), and Toni (and someone
else?) dropped off flowers to the nice people who did our EM
stuff. Debbie and I came back around the time when Catherine
was doing her little happy dance because of the Gemini news.
An hour more of signing postcards and we were off to invade
Las Vegas.

Walking down the sidewalks in our grungies (but still looking
very nice, nonetheless)...

Upon seeing a huge poster of the rather familiar Las Vegas
duo, Dianne remarks, "Hmmm...Sigfried and Roy. What are the
chances that *they* would be here?"
"Dunno. Guess we just lucked out, eh?"

Later, whilst standing in front of the white tiger exhibit,
a still rather time-lagged Diane peers through the glass:
"Ooooh, I wanna pet the big fluffy white kitties..."
To which night-person Dianne reminds her: "Yes, big fluffy
white kitties with big not-so-fluffy white teeth."
To which half-comatose Diane goes: *blink blink* <blank stare>
-tick tock tick tock, five seconds pass by-
Diane, nodding says: "Ooooooohhhhhh."

Later still that night, back in our room and looking over the
tacky postcards Dianne would be mailing out to certain list-
members the next day.
Catherine: "This is not natural...they're not supposed to
hang down to there..." <gestures to about waist level>
Dianne: "<nodding understandingly> Oh, it's natural...only
in Las Vegas or those covered by National Geographic specials.."

And then, then next morning we departed. Debbie was driving
like she was in the Indy 500, making me wonder if the bugs
hitting the windshield would bullet-hole cracks. Catherine
was writing out her official report, Dianne was trying to
wrestle the computer away from Catherine, and Cherri was
happily reading her book. We had arrived safely in the vicinity
of Southern California (Catherine being sent off rather reluctantly
to class, and me getting my first glimpse of Dianne's infamous
orange bug). I ended up ditching yet another day of class,
opting instead to crawl into bed. That was around 2:00 PM yesterday.
I didn't wake up until 8:00 AM today. Lovely stuff, sleep.

Gee, my first real post and I've already written more than
is welcome. Sorry, guys! I'm done, really...<pushing herself
away from the computer> Thanks for everything, we couldn't
have done it without your wonderful support!

Cousin Angela, Lurking Commando
-variously known as-
Whatshername
Theothergirl
Youknowthatonewiththefunnymiddlename

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:39:18 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Tape giveaway contest

Hi all --

I was looking through my rapidly growing collection of FK tapes and
realized that I have an extra videotape with "Night in Question" and
"Fever,"  both first generation and taped SP.  The quality of the NiQ
episode is fine; there are some ghosts marring the quality of the Fever
episode but it's still eminently watchable.

Rather than hoard these for myself, I realized that I should spread the
wealth and send the tape to someone who missed these eps for some reason.

Because some folks are busy or on digest, I'm not going to offer the tape
to the first person who responds; rather, I'm giving people 48 hours to
respond and give me the most creative reason they can think of why they
should get the tape.  I'm not a Merc, so don't try to bribe me with
chocolates or anything.  The reasons you list can be almost anything
except bribery.  You can tell me what creative goodies you've sent up to
some of the cast and crew in Toronto, you can tell me some exploit of
yours on the list that will get me laughing, you can send me bad poetry,
whatever!

Really, really creative answers might even convince me to find other
tapes to give away!

Respond off-list to percy91@w........  If I get some interesting
responses, I'll post a summary to the list!

* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie            percy91@w.......          *
*    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity!          *
*  _`\<,_    Contact me to pledge support or join the ride.  For info  *
* (*)/ (*)   see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html  *

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:48:40 -0500
From:    Bea  Quindlen <OCaoin@a.......>
Subject: More Blood & More Letters

If you have sent correspondence of any type to save FK e-mail me with a count
so we can see how we're doing! Please specify who you sent to, that is, do
not say TPTB. Using the list below as a guide would be a big help.  Thank
you.

I have only counted blood donations that have been posted DIRECTLY to me (not
the list in general. If you've donated a pint e-mail me at OCaoin.AOL.COM to
be counted.
Thank you

=================================
Time: 4:00 pm    Fri. Jan 26, 1996

27 Blood Donations:

3- Fredericton, New Brunswick
1- Corner Brook, Nfld.,
2 - location not specified
9 - NYC
8 - Baltimore
1 - Hammond, Il
1 - Pasadena
1 - Dothan, Al
1- Fitchburg, Mass

Correspondence:
119 lottery tickets

3086  Letters so far to:
602 Kay Koplovitz    USA
588 Jon Feltheimer  TriStar/Columbia
299 Ron Perth   USA
200 Bonnie Hammer   USA
  17 Telemuchen
  54 Paragon
  96 Sony
104 TriStar/Columbia
152 USA
  37 James Parriot
  14 FOX
330 Local Syndicators
556 Sponsors
  12 Cast/Crew
  30 misc.

74 FAXES:
34  Kay Koplovitz    USA
  4  USA
  8  Columbia/TriStar
28  misc.

293 E-MAILS:
  67 USA
  37 SONY
  44 Columbia/TriStar
  14 Fred Mollin
  12 Nigel Bennett
    7 James Parriot
115 misc

10 Telegrams
63 People have indicated they donated to charity as well.

Misc= Marvin Kittman, Steve Case(AOL), Prodigy, USA Weekend, Ian Spelling, TV
Guide, Sci-Fi Weekly, Entertainment Weekly,  Ontario Development Corp., and
the recently acquired fax numbers, Terri Johnson, etc.
=============================================

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:49:15 -0800
From:    Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,
         we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)

At 11:10 PM 1/25/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Dianne Therese De Sha wrote:

>TriStar has GOT to be convinced that that 1.7 doesn't mean didly.  What can
they expect when the stupid show is shown at 2 in the morning (on 59 in
Indianapolis,....

        Didn't the show use to have a *very* nice slot at 9:00 P.M. on
Sunday nights?  On Long Island, it is shown at 9:00 P.M. on Tuesdays, and
1:10 A.M. on Thursdays....I have to work so taping the show is the only
option!  A more favorable time slot is probably the only change that would
make a major difference!  It is not over the top adult oriented as is Silk
Stalkings, so I don't understand why it isn't given an earlier time period.
When the WB station was showing it for a short time, it was also on at 9:00
P.M., I think on Thursdays...what happened?


Jackie

Support your local Attorney...send your kid to Medical School.
ejdjd@i.......

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