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Digest - 24 Jan 1996 - Special issue

24 Jan 1996

There are 37 messages totalling 1016 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Please help!!
  2. Matrix; Fox show; list rules, etc.
  3. FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jan 1996 to 24 Jan 1996 - Special issue
  4. An insanely demented thought... (4)
  5. Forever Knightie shirts!
  6. HorrorFest '96 (2)
  7. Gemini Nominations (2)
  8. Gemini Awards
  9. Fanfic help needed
 10. Anyone want to talk (long) (2)
 11. Vampire corpses or lack of same
 12. YKYBW... and Give Blood, Get a Card
 13. Can we talk about FEVER?
 14. Nick's kids
 15. more on spoiler rules
 16. what are..
 17. GEMINI Alert!!! (2)
 18. Arisia Report
 19. We got the word out!!!!
 20. Rocky Horror
 21. schedule
 22. USA/Tri-Star responses anyone?
 23. some gripes
 24. GOODIES and Gingerbread vampires
 25. Ger conference <sob>
 26. What to talk about....
 27. rocky horror
 28. FK moves again?
 29. blood
 30. GER CONFERENCE RESCHEDULED!

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:52:59 -0500
From:    Kyle Watkins <spyder_x@u.......>
Subject: Re: Please help!!

WXXA (Fox 23) in Albany has FK on saturdays at Midnight.

- Kyle

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:00:26 EST
From:    Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Matrix; Fox show; list rules, etc.

To:           Forkni-l <forkni-l@p.......>

If anyone can supply a tape of Nigel's Matrix episode, I would also
like to have one. Please contact me offlist.

The new Fox vampire show is reportedly called The Kindred. Look, I
hope no one will take this for a flame, but may I just point out that
there's a list rule that other shows and vampires are only discussed
as they relate to FK? The rule is to keep traffic on topic. Believe
me, I've been the acting listowner for this list, and nothing brings
floods of complaints into owners' mailboxes like people with limited
time and space who are getting off topic posts on any list. (I've
had the same experience with the other 4 lists I've co-owned.)

The all purpose vampire internet list is Vampyres@h........ I can
supply details offlist if anyone wants them.

As for the Nielsens -- thanks, Laurie CF -- me so happy! :) That's
exactly what I said in my first email to SONY. <evil gloat>

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:07:44 CST
From:    Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jan 1996 to 24 Jan 1996 - Special issue

In: "Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jan 1996 to 24 Jan 1996 - Special issue", mailed
on Wed, 24 Jan 96 00:37:32 CST  , Katrinka wrote:

>
> who should play rocky in a recast rocky horror.
> MIKLOS of course!
> I better get some FK into me before I start writing horrible filks like:
> I'm LaCroix and I'm okay

%<%<%<%<%<%<

Don Durham replied:

Great, now I'm going to have that bloody song in my head all day.

Think my office mate will feel threatened if I break out in "The Lucien
LaCroix Song"?



                                                Don, Cousin
                                                don.durham@d.......
Woody:  "You're flying!"
Buzz:   "This isn't flying.  This is falling with style!"

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:08:18 -0400
From:    Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: An insanely demented thought...

The only problem is, I don't know who'd play Rocky.     >>

Urs? he hehh heh

toni m.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:23:15 -0400
From:    Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knightie shirts!

what is Lillian's email address, I want a teeshirt!!
Toni M.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:41:07 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: HorrorFest '96

I live near D/FW and would love to attend, when and where?

Let me know--have a life off line and need to request time off work.

Thanks,

Carrie Krumtum

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:41:05 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: Gemini Nominations

And now for the newbie knightie dumb question of the week (drum roll please):

   What is a Gemini award?


Dumb Newbie Knightie

Carrie Krumtum

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:43:59 -0500
From:    Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Gemini Awards

Hi all! Smoe good news! Flipping through the Globe and Mail's entertainment
section this morning, I discovered the list of nominees for the Gemini awards
for 1996.  (These are for canadian television).  Geraint has been nominated
for Best Leading Actor in an Ongoing Series (unfortunately, he's up against
both guys from Due South), and Catherine for Best Leading Actress in an
Ongoing Series. (Highlander has also been nominated for best hour-long drama,
but it's up against the much-beloved Road To Avonlea, so there's not much hope
there.)
Good luck, guys!

Katya
-=feel the call of the Knight...=-
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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:48:18 -0500
From:    Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fanfic help needed

Hi all,

I need help!  What kind of help you say?  (Not professional, you comedians)
I need info on the Toronto Metro Zoo.  I need to know what the keepers
uniforms look like and a good discripton of the Mayan temple where the
Jaguars are displayed.  Any help  would be appricated.  email me if you have
any info.  I have a general map a friend from Canada sent me, but I need the
details.

Thank you
(Cousin) Lisa C

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:52:04 U
From:    Deborah Menikoff <dmenikoff@c.......>
Subject: Anyone want to talk (long)

Sandra Gray writes:
> There are many things that can be discussed other than the current
> episodes.  For example:

And look! Here they are. In view of generating discussion related to things
other than the SOS efforts, which though paramount, are not all
emcompassing). Since Sandra was good enough to list them so succinctly, I'll
just answer the same way or I am likely to hare off in all sorts of
directions. Needless to say it's all IMO....

> Is FK vampirism scientific or supernatural in nature (or a
> combination of the two)?

After all we've seen, I'd vote for a combination.

I know they haven't found a cure but the various things that Nat and/or Nick
do from time to time have a definite effect on how strong the "virus" (if
that's what it is) is at any given time. Also, there have been a couple of
instances where Nat describes seeing a "dna strand" or something that doesn't
belong there but which disappears in samples to quickly or something like
that. So there is a physical something *there*

Then , having said that and made a case for a "virus" or scientific cause,
you have to explain that fact that, Nick can *fly*. You could *almost explain
everything else away somehow but there he'd be, flying away and all your
logic goes to h*ll. Flying is not symptomatic of anything I can think of
:-)))))))

> Is LC just amoral or evil? ;)

Well, if your definition of amoral is "neither moral or immoral; being
outside or beyond the moral order or a a particular code of morals" (which is
Webster's) then I'd say amoral. He has a "code". It's just not one that most
of us could live by or with.

Evil? Well, I am not sure I'd care to know enough about true evil to be able
to define it. Dictionary definitions seem rather weak in this regard. Evil as
defined by your average Funk and Wagnalls could be applied to many many
things and I think that dilutes the word. <shrug> IMO anyway.

> If FK vampirism is scientific (i.e. natural), how can the FK
> vampire fly?

well exactly. That's why I went with combo.

> Who is your favorite character and why?

LaCroix. It was inevitable. I have a long LONG history of falling for wicked,
well spoken characters. Always happens. I could give a long drawn out
analysis of why these characters appeal but I won't...for now. Maybe later
:-)))

> Why do you love FK?

Well, I used to love the fact that there were many different layers to each
story. For the most part that is still true though every now and again we get
a real howler! It doesn't insult my intelligence as thoroughly as most TV
does these days.  And it's different. It's not *Friends*. Now, I have nothing
against Friends. I watch Friends. But I don't need to see all the other
"friends" shows day in and day out. I like a little variety and FK certainly
isn't the same old thing.

> What is the worst thing a character has done?  The best thing?

The *worst*? Hmmm...I pass. I'm sure that if I gave it some thought, I could
come up with each character doing something truly low but...and as far as
*best* - I could probably find a corresponding redeeming action for each. Not
an answer? True, but that makes the show three dimensional and makes the
question...tricky. Interesting, but tricky.

> Does Nick love Nat?  Is she the love of his life?

I think he'll find that he does. As for being the end all"love of his life",
I don't think so. Assuming that Nick doesn't walk into the sun (and there is
no reason to suppose that he would take that step) he will go on and one day
Nat won't be there (for whatever reason - time has passed, she's found
someone she *can be with, or she didn't but too much time has passed and she
has passed away). Nick will find love again because I think he needs to. He
needs to have someone believe, to love him, because he doesn't. He is filed
with doubt, self-loathing, angst etc.

> Does LC have homosexual feelings for Nick?

I think there is a very sensual aspect of the relationship but I think that
the "sensual" or "erotic" is a key part of the vampires connection with each
other. For the time being, I'd say it that aspect that we see being played
out. How much is due to that fact that it is LC and Nick specifically?
<shrug> Don't know. I think two very skilled actors are giving us a lot of
latitude in which each of us can see what we want and/or feel comfortable
with.

> Does Nick love Janette?

Yes. It is tangled up with that self loathing again but in a different way.
She loves him for what he was, for what he is but he can't live with that.
Will she love what he becomes? Who knows? I wonder if he ever thinks of that
as he strives towards mortality. She's been through almsot anything you can
imagine with him but I don't imagine she'd go through that.

> If Nick achieves mortality again, will he like it?

I don't know if he'll *like* it but I am fairly sure he won't be able to live
with it. Just a gut feeling. No clearly thought out rationale.

> Can FK vampires engage in sex?

with other vamps, sure. With mortals, sure - but they'll die. Bummer:-))

> How does one become an FK vampire? (let me count the ways ;) )

She's right. There are more ways to become a vampire in the FK universe than
there are of catching cold. No wonder there are so many vampire in Toronto.
:-))))))

> If FK vampirism is natural, why do the vampires react with fear
  to religious items?

well that another point in the favor of the supernatural that I didn't thing
about earlier. And in regards to that, what is it about the "symbols" that
causes them to react across the board. I mean, to crosses, menorahs, *and*
sacred daggers, regardless of the original religious beliefs of the being
that became the vampire? Is it the object itself? I don't think so. I think
the object, whatever it might be, is imbued with the beliefs (faiths?) of
those who look to it#004##004##004##004##004# for what it represnets.

>  The appearances of FK actors in other upcoming roles.

I dream of a performace of the Pirates of Penzance starring the actors from
FK. I don't know why, I just always have. :-)))))))))

> Vachon's hair--like it or not? ;)

If he'd get it outta his eyes, it would be 100% better. Hey! <vbg> maybe
that's why he always looks like a deer caught in the headlights. He's trying
to see through all that hair ;-)))))

> How did LC survive being staked and burned in Dark Knight
    (speculation)?

I think Nick missed a bit with the stake and LC, faced with the uncoming
flames, found the strength (a surge of vamp adrenaline) to pull it out and
get away.

> That should give some ideas of the wide variety of things that can
> be discussed on forkni-l.

Whew! It sure did. My fingers hurt. I'm takin' a rest :-)))))))

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Cousin Deborah
*Never* let your conscience be your guide
menikoff@p.......
http://www.cup.org/people/homepages/djm/page.html

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:00:30 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Vampire corpses or lack of same

        What happens to vampire bodies when they die?  This is being
discussed to some extent over on the spoiler list, but I was just
wondering.  LaCroix, when he was staked on the battlefied in the
Crimean/Napoleonic War in Night in Question, was looking *terrible* until
Nicholas decided to share a little blood and pull the twig out.

        So was it a Dorian Gray thing, with the years catching up to
him?  Was he about to fall to ash, without the help of the sun?

Cheers,

Laura

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:01:58 EST
From:    MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: YKYBW... and Give Blood, Get a Card

     YKYBWTMFKW (is there such a thing?<g>)
     ...on the way home from the Baltimore blood drive you start
cracking up after you see a sign for a place called "Uncle Nicky's" The
joke's just write themselves, don't they? ;>
     Someone (sorry, I'm drawing a blank here) asked what was on the
other cards. The one with LaCroix on it says "I gave my blood for
Forever Knight" The words 'gave' and 'Forever Knight' are in red. Three
cheers for Lana for creating these great cards!! Now go out there and
give! :)=

Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......>
//"How long have I been sleeping and why do I feel so old? Why do I
feel so cold? My heart is saying one thing, but my body won't let go"--
Mary by Sarah McLachlan//

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:25:38 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Can we talk about FEVER?

Hi, Cassie.

I'm sorry that someone flamed you for asking questions.  We were all
new here once, and most people on the list are friendly and polite to
newcomers and tolerant of the inevitable problems that will occur out
of ignorance.  Unfortunately, when you have more than 900 people on a
list, there are bound to be exceptions.

>My point was that I thought it would
>be nice to talk about the show itself--FK, which we all love enough to
>bust our buns to save.

Obviously, you can discuss anything you want about the first two
seasons, and anything about the first 9 episodes of third season, all
of which have been rerun, on forkni-l.  However, since discussions
often overlap, and people tend to relate something from this week's
episode to something from an earlier episode, most discussions of FK
itself when new episodes are airing tend to be carried on on fkspoilr.
For example, when A More Permanent Hell was broadcast last season,
Sandra and I got into a huge debate (one of several we've had) over
Nick and LaCroix. We carried on for more than a week, with long posts
every day, pulling in examples of things that had happened in virtually
every episode to make our points.  After a week of this, someone
pointed out that we weren't even talking about AMPH anymore <g> and the
discussion moved (briefly, since everyone including us was tired of it
<g>) to forkni-l.  A current example is the discussion on fkspoilr of
Nick's drinking habits, which pulls in earlier third season eps as well
as current ones.

When FK is in reruns, or in the offseason, the episodes are discussed
on forkni, and spoilr is quiet.  That's when we have contests like the
Best Worst First Line and the Answering Machine challenge that took
place last spring and summer.  When, like now, episodes are in first
run, almost all FK discussion tends to take place on fkspoilr.  Just
the way things have shaken out here.

>It's just that every day my mailbox is filled with at least 150 list
>messages about donating blood, sending letters and care packages,
>etc.--which is all very inspiring and makes me happy--but it would be
>nice to see some talk about FK itself every once in a while, too.

Since the campaign to save FK is in high gear at the moment, it's only
natural that it would dominate the discussion on forkni.  You can
expect this to change, to some extent, right after NATPE (this week)
and certainly by late February, early March, when the decision will
probably have been made.  (Not that attempts to revive FK won't
continue, but they'll undoubtedly do so at a slower pace, taking up
less bandwith on forkni-l.)

Hope this is somewhat helpful to you and to anyone else who is
wondering.

Laurie Fenster

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:01:01 -0500
From:    AC Chapin <sdragon@g.......>
Subject: Nick's kids

 A McLaughlin writes:
> >It would be great to see an episode where he (Nick) encountered a
> >vampire he made who was more like LaCroix ie, thrilled at being a
> >blood drinking maniac.

sad, isn't it?  Nick's congenital foolishness on the whole vamp
question has passed to every one of his kids.  They're either as whiny
as Nick (like Serena) or 'uncontrollable' (ie, Nick can't handle the
responsibility) and semi-immediately killed by Papa (Richard, Elizabeth,
etc).

Then again, Uncle's track record ain't so great either.  Of all the ones
he's brought across, only Janette is sane and stable.  Oh well.

AC Chapin     sdragon@g.......      http://www.glue.umd.edu/~sdragon
        ...just for those expressing doubt as to my Cousinly nature...

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:39:40 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: more on spoiler rules

Deborah Bender wrote:

>Where things got vague and confusing was in response to the question,
>"Well, when *can* I talk about the latest episode on FORKNI-L?"
>Someone posted that you have to wait until it is rerun. That is
>incorrect, unless there has been a rule change recently that I missed

There was a rule change, Deborah, earlier this season, and that is the
listowners decided.  Unless, of course, it's changed again <g>.

But if it hasn't, there isn't supposed to be discussion of new eps on
forkni until they are rerun. Hope that clears up the confusion.
Deborhah is right;  the rule used to be as she described it, but it was
changed this season.


>BTW, any* discussion of the content, even, "This was a really good
>episode," has to wait until the blackout period is over or if you
>can't wait, be posted on FKSPOILR.

This is a valid point, and well worth repeating.

And everyone, please remember to quote NO MORE THAN FOUR LINES at a
time when responding to a post! :-)  (You can, of course, respond to
multiple points within your post, quoting up to four lines each time.)


Laurie Fenster

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:43:07 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: what are..

> On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jason Ryan wrote:
> >         What are "mercs, cousins and war#5" i keep hearing about? They
> Mercs, cousins and wars, Oh my!  Mercs, Cousins and Wars, Oh my!  Someone
> who has it convenient will not doubt send you a copy of the factions
> list.  Wars are just a fan fictional round robin sort of thing.

Any chance I could get a copy too?

Alora

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:49:57 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: GEMINI Alert!!!

Haven't seen this yet, so I'm posting.  If it's already dropped, I'm
sorry;  one of the limitations of being on digest.

Just found out from a friend in Toronto that the Gemini nominations
were listed in today's paper, and in addition to Ger being nominated
for best lead actor, Catherine, Deborah and Nigel are also all up for
awards (lead actress, supporting actress and supporting actor)!

Take THAT, USA!!!

Laurie Fenster

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:48:09 EST
From:    MS ANNE P PINZOW <TBZY17B@p.......>
Subject: Re: Arisia Report

Dear List,

Mea cupla, I am very sorry about not including the following
information in my Arisia report and also for the lateness of this
addendum.  (I never had to evacuate before.) My only excuse in not
giving credit where credit is due is that I did not know.

The article in the Herald came about due to the tireless efforts of Cal
Montgomery and Rae Montor (both of  whom talked at length to the Herald
reporter starting early in the week.)

 Cal (who had never been to a con in her life before, or done anything even
 remotely like PR work) made the initial contact  (at some serious length)
 with the reporter from the Herald, whom  she found by talking the Boston
 University-owned commercial  television station and getting a referral.
 Rae spoke with the  reporter later, and faxed her info. Cal also spoke at
 length  with the Program Manager of the local syndicator, and primed him
 to call TriStar. Then, at the con, she ran around and did xeroxing and
 posted notices all over the hotel. She even brought her palmtop computer
 to make last-minute signs and help, if needed, in letter- writing to
 TriStar, etc.

 Rae arranged the existence, titles, and times of the two FK panels with
 Programming at the convention (and got them listed in the con's  daily
 newsletter),  plus  put in a great deal of work writing and organizing
 and  typesetting and telephoning for an event which she was prevented
 from attending.
  Also, a special mention should go to  Lynne Levine for making the Forever
  Knight party into an "official" event, and  finding out what was needed for
  the panels and also for  printing out tons of press releases, and shopping
  for the party. And  Celeste  Hotaling for making the flyers and the poster
  happen (she brought it down from the website, converted through
  difficult means to printable work), and  collecting FK PAF donations
  with high visibility at the Print Shop in  the  Art Show.)"  -- and she
  brought down two flyers (making a poster out of one of them).

  Special mention should also go to Bea Quindlen, who worked with Rae to
 redesign the survey she had originally posted to the list to  make it a
 fast (and evocative) 20 Questions to Save the Knight, and  then she made
 750 copies of it and shipped them to the con.  (She did this by spending
 over 6 hours with several friends  digging out of 29" of snow so she could
 go to her office, and  thence to UPS!)

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:59:55 CST
From:    L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: An insanely demented thought...

>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, L'Phantom wrote:
>
> > ...FK characters recast in the Rocky Horror Picture Show:
> >
> > The only problem is, I don't know who'd play Rocky.
>
>
>         Miklos!
>
>
I *like* it!

Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training

Help Save Forever Knight!  Ask me how!  jrarmstr@b.......
>

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:58:48 EWT
From:    molly <MSREED@c.......>
Subject: Re: HorrorFest '96

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF ANY OF FOREVER KNIGHT CAST WILL BE ATTENDING?

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:01:39 -0800
From:    "Leslie A. Orlando" <lao@i.......>
Subject: We got the word out!!!!

Hello, fellow SOS'ers.

Just got word from my friend Marsha at NAPTE (her booth is the Blair
booth so those of you who are visiting NAPTE, say hello to Die-Hard
Marsha) that we got a very large article in Electronic Media by Wayne
Walley concerning our efforts to save our _favorite_ show.

It was a very favorable article and mentions Ravenette Catherine and
AnnMarie.

Looks like we made some waves.  Now lets hope the waves wash upon the
4th season shores!

Gotta love it.  Thanks to all the great people who were part of this
effort.

Cousin Lee
LAO@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:05:09 CST
From:    L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror

>Cousin Lisa wrote:

> Actually, Nigel did play Riff Raff in an Italian tour of Rocky Horror.
> This came out when someone at DOW2 asked him if he'd played Janet. His
> dead pan reply was, "no, I played Magenta." :)
>

Somehow, I can see that... hmm.
Although, I'd like to see him try Frank, just the same.  <G>

Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training

Help Save Forever Knight!  Ask me how!  jrarmstr@b.......


>

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:58:34 EST
From:    MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Gemini Nominations

Congratulations to Ger, Catherine, Nigel and Deb on being nominated
for Geminis this year (the Geminis are the Canadian equivalent of the Emmys)!!

The awards run for three nights - March 1-3 - with the first two
nights mainly being "industry" nights, that is, that's when the
technical awards are given out.  March 3 is the "big" night, that's
the one that's televised, and when most of the acting awards are given
out.

Now there's another reason to write the cast and show our support for
them and the program <g>!!

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!)    Via Internet:  gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
           *** Help save Forever Knight!  Ask me how. ***
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:01:11 -0600
From:    Lani Lyman-Henley <lhenley@s.......>
Subject: schedule

Hi folks- Is there a current airdate schedule available? I'm no-mail so
please send it to my address if possible. Also, would anybody know what
the deal is with FOX vs USA airings? I'm getting confused as to which one
airs first (for VCR setting reasons!!)

Thanks mucho-

Snakelady Lani
lhenley@s.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:08:45 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: USA/Tri-Star responses anyone?

Has anybody received a response of *any kind* from snail mail, lottery
tickets, telegrams, etc. sent to any of the USA people or Feltheimer at
Tri-Star. It's been a month now. I wasn't expecting a phone call, but I am
surprised no one has mentioned a form letter by now. Anybody? Wonder why
not?!?

Lynn
Chatelyne@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:28:44 -0500
From:    Katja Stokley <cstokley@g.......>
Subject: Re: Anyone want to talk (long)

On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Deborah Menikoff wrote:
> > How does one become an FK vampire? (let me count the ways ;) )
>
> She's right. There are more ways to become a vampire in the FK universe than
> there are of catching cold. No wonder there are so many vampire in Toronto.
> :-))))))

I'm a third season newbie - what *are* the ways? People have become
vampires by some other method than being bitten by a vampire?

Katja

                  Katja Stokley    -*-    cstokley@g.......
            -*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:30:32 -0800
From:    Ida K Egenberger <egenberi@w.......>
Subject: Re: An insanely demented thought...

On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, L'Phantom wrote:

> ...FK characters recast in the Rocky Horror Picture Show:
>
> The only problem is, I don't know who'd play Rocky.
> Any ideas?

How about Stonetree? <g>

Ida Egenberger
egenberi@w.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:38:01 -0500
From:    Jack De Winter <jackdw@m.......>
Subject: Re: GEMINI Alert!!!

At 08:49 AM 96-01-24 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Haven't seen this yet, so I'm posting.  If it's already dropped, I'm
>sorry;  one of the limitations of being on digest.
>
>Just found out from a friend in Toronto that the Gemini nominations
>were listed in today's paper, and in addition to Ger being nominated
>for best lead actor, Catherine, Deborah and Nigel are also all up for
>awards (lead actress, supporting actress and supporting actor)!
>
>Take THAT, USA!!!

any idea when the Gemini awards are this year?  maybe we can get a
contingent there, depending on where they are being held?

regards,
Jack
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Jack De Winter           'why isn't phoenetic spelt the way it sounds?'
Software Metrics, inc.   'why do they have interstate highways in Hawaii?'
jackdw@m.......       'why is there only one Monopolies Commission?'

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:42:20 -0800
From:    Ida K Egenberger <egenberi@w.......>
Subject: Re: some gripes

On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, A McLaughlin wrote:

> another botched job of his bringing someone across and they are unhappy. This
> has been DONE too many times folks. It would be great to see an episode where
> he encountered a vampire he made who was more like LaCroix ie, thrilled at
> being a blood drinking maniac. That's a scary idea!

Nick has brought over quite a few vampires that have been like Lacroix.
There's been Elizabeth and Richard from first season and the 'good
doctor' in Fever, and I'm sure many others I'm forgeting at the moment.
The only problem is, Nick kills them off after realizing what kind of
vampires they become.
The only time I can remember Nick bringing someone across when they
didn't want it was Serena in Baby,Baby. I don't consider Alexandra one of
his since LaCroix did the actual bringing across.

Ida Egenberger
egenberi@w.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:46:25 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: GOODIES and Gingerbread vampires

Karin Welss <KWELSS@u.......> said:
> Gillian [Horvath] also wrote:

> >Jim [Parriott] said the gingerbread bears
> >(three vampires, a cop and a Doctor) were
> >yummy.  Of course he bit their heads off.

> So, 'fess up, folks. Whodunit?  :-) :-P :-)

Y'know, people have been pretty good about letting me know what they're
sending so I can put it in the GOODIES report.  But no one said anything
to me (as far as I recall) about gingerbread vampires!  My guess is that
it was someone off-list??  If the guilty party *is* on the list and wants
to 'fess up, please do!

I have quite a list of GOODIES for the next report, coming soon, honest!

And as a reminder, use the following address when sending appreciation
cards/notes/gifts to the cast and crew:

Paragon Entertainment/Forever Knight
119 Spadina Ave., Suite 900
Toronto, Ontario M5V 2L1  Canada

E-mail me off-list if you want a list of cast & crew names.

If you don't know what to send, pick something fun or perhaps a specialty
of your hometown.  (C'mon, Texans, send 'em barbeque sauce!) If you're
mailing things from outside Canada, avoid fresh fruits or other things
that might freak out the customs officials.  On the customs form, identify
what you're sending and say it's a gift.

Also, avoid gifts that seem personal or romantic, since we don't want to
freak out the cast & crew either.  Make 'em laugh.

>From your friendly neighborhood keeper of the GOODIES list --

* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie            percy91@w.......          *
*    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity!          *
*  _`\<,_    Contact me to pledge support or join the ride.  For info  *
* (*)/ (*)   see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html  *

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:49:00 PT
From:    Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ger conference <sob>

I knew it. Blast. Darn. I will be out of town that weekend. Anyone want to
buy a nice, friendly Ravenette with Knightly leanings a laptop and modem.
Or lend her one for the weekend. <sob> <boo-hoo> And I even was 10 min
early last week and didn't ask for a refund figuring the money spent for
Ger and FK was well-spent anyway. <sniff>

Oh well.
Anyone in the Monterey, CA area; when and where is FK seen down there?
Is it on Sat nite? I will be taping at home, but would love to see it real
time.

Thanks
Tami LaFrank                 : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a.......
Forever Faithful Ravenette   : King Arthur ran the first (K)Night club.
The Raven Health Spa         : Never play Leapfrog with a Unicorn.
"Dying to prolong your life" : Celibacy is not Hereditary.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:52:17 EST
From:    Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: What to talk about....

>This is a highly intellectual list, don't'cha know.  When I first joined in
>August, I was flung headlong into a detailed and meaningful debate on
>"Ger's Butt".

(LOL) Yeah, when I joined the main topic of discussion was something
about JADFE (of course, at the time I had no idea what that was...).
(Too bad I missed the debate on Ger's butt -- I'm serious here, folks.)

Hey, does anyone remember a post where someone asked what JADFE
meant, and came up with about 5 different possible meanings?  It ended
up being signed, Just About Dying For Enlightenment, or something like
that.  It was hysterical, and I accidentally deleted it.  If anyone has a copy
of that post, please e-mail it to me (102575.114@c.......).

My .02 worth:  I *love* staying informed on the SOS efforts, and don't want
to miss any of that, but I agree that we should take a little time out for
some recreational FK talk, too.

Deanna
Devoted Knightie and Perkulator

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:58:48 +0200
From:    Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: rocky horror

I know who should play Rocky in a recast of rocky horror
MIKLOS!
I better get some forever knight into me before I write anymore horrible
filks like this:
I'm LaCroix and I'm okay
I sleep all day and I work all Knight
I drain virgins, I fly and jump
I like to drain wild punks
I put on Janette's dresses and hang around in her bar,
I want to be a psycho
just like rosebud's internet pal!!!!!!

this is what comes from seven tests in seven days!!!!!!

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:07:14 CST
From:    L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: An insanely demented thought...

"How about Stonetree? <g>"

Now *that's* a frightening thought (!)

But, then again, it is the Rocky *Horror* Picture Show...

Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training

Help Save Forever Knight!  Ask me how!  jrarmstr@b.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:05:17 -0800
From:    Ida K Egenberger <egenberi@w.......>
Subject: FK moves again?

Would anyone happen to know when USA will be airing Fever? I heard on
Tuesday Night Fights yesterday (no I wasn't watching it! I left the tv
while recording Strings!) that they will be returning to their original 2
hour format which means 9-11pm PT. The 2 commentators were also saying
how they got "hundreds of thousands" of pieces of mail from people
discouraged that the 2 hour format was gone. What about the mail we sent,
huh?!!

Ida Egenberger
egenberi@w.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:18:04 -0800
From:    Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: blood

Well against all better judgement I went down and gave blood for FK. I
even went wilingly. I am frightned by needles scared to death but hay I
figured that it would be worth it. I went throught the whole thing and
the lady asked if I was giving for anyone...I said in honor of FK she
said who? I said a Vampire show.."oh you can go on now" well I sat in the
chair and waited and then I got flash back to what happened last time...I
fainted..needles do that to me...well I made it they got that blood out
of me till they took the needle out and I saw it..I was
history..out...but hay I did it and when I was recovering...they made me
stay forever and a day stuffing me full of twinie and choclate things and
apple juice I met another FK fan who was just giving blood. She had no
idea it was being cancled and I am going to get her the address and she
is gong to start writing and calling. The whole experience was worth it.
I don't have a reciept so I don't know if you can count it but I thaught
I would share.
I am however never going to give blood again....except mabey to a Vampire <G>

Love,
Wendy Marie
wendy@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:22:21 -0600
From:    Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: GER CONFERENCE RESCHEDULED!

Question about Sat. nite's conference:

Do we have to sign up in advance?

I was going to send this privately, but thought others mght also want to know.


--------Sharon Joy -  A Forever Knightie -  SJoy@u.......
          Come in 81 Kilo.  We've got a show to save!
Go here:  http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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