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Digest - 8 Jan 1996 - Special issue
Mon, 8 Jan 1996
There are 34 messages totalling 1006 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Finding out about Tristar
2. NB Alert!!
3. spam :b
4. SOS PR:Two new ideas
5. PR Possibility: Bad Subjects
6. Press Release - Submission Posted (fwd)
7. Away (2)
8. Graphics: Screen Captures: Credits
9. save fk article in Brockton,MA Enterprise newspaper
10. A foot and a half of snow...
11. Fwd: Looking for CTV addresses
12. Fwd: Re: Bouquets, etc.
13. Another link to the SFK page
14. Arts & Crafts/Spamflowers
15. PR on the Web / Site Suggestion
16. Public Message Board Postings & Cards
17. SOS-FK FAQ??
18. 1/13 EPISODE
19. Response from WKBW (2)
20. ISO Felicia Lecou
21. FK Rave Ratings in September
22. Telemunchen and vows
23. SOS Fan Presidents Mail Loop
24. Oh no.... USA, where's FK? (3)
25. all-fandom boycott of USA?
26. Ben Bass and Graves' disease
27. What to do with WKBW Response
28. Seattle trip
29. What The . . . ?
30. Silk Stalkings in FK's time slot!
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:22:35 +1100
From: Rhys Threlfall <rhyst@IPACIFIC.NET.AU>
Subject: Finding out about Tristar
Lisa wrote:
>>Can someone in Los Angeles for whom it would be a local call, please
see if they can find the number for TriStar? We can then spread
it all over the universe. :)<<
Sony Pictures Entertainment -(310)280-8000
Tristar TV-(310)202-1234
>>Likewise, what about e-addresses and telegrams to Mr. Feltheimer?<<
I believe people are sending telegrams. However unfortunatly I can
give you e-mail address of SPE/Sony employees. Wish I could. I had a
several days ago sent an private e-mail to Feltheimer but haven't had
a reply yet.
Rhys
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:48:17 -0330
From: Dark Knight <phurley@b.......>
Subject: Re: NB Alert!!
According to Nigel's bio. on the FK page, he has the starring role, but I
know nothing beyond that, as I have never seen it, although I will remedy
that on Wednesday.
Paula
Knightie/
Nick&NatPacker/
And likes LaCroix(but I'm not a cousin)
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Apache wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Dark Knight wrote:
>
> > For anyone out there who gets the station BRAVO, "The Outside Chance Of
> > Maxmillian Glick" is being shown at 8 am EST on Wednesday the 10th.
> >
> More info, please: how much Nigel is there in this movie? (A
> virtual brick will be flung at anyone who says, "all of him.")
>
> Apache
>
> Perkulator
> Vaquera
> Stringin' along til Saturday...
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:33:16 -1000
From: Michele Agena <magena@h.......>
Subject: spam :b
Here are some more spam inspired recipes from the state with the highest
per capita spam consumption :) BTW I am the only person in the whole
family that doesn't like spam. I'm surrounded by spam eaters...they would
faint in shock if I started eating it for the sake of FK ;-)
teriyaki spam (recipe from a friend who can't eat spam any other way
because it's too gross)
Slice spam. Place in frying pan. Add some shoyu (soy sauce) and sugar. The
shoyu and sugar mixture will thicken in to a glaze for the spam. Fry till
nice and brown (the spam pink will be nicely covered up). Serve hot with
rice.
_____
pinapple spam (my dad's favorite)
Slice spam. Place in a rectagular cake pan in a single layer. Stud spam
with whole cloves. Cover spam with a can of crushed, cubed or sliced
pineapple (dad recommends crushed). Place in oven and bake till spam takes
on a golden color. Serve hot with rice.
______
Fried rice with spam
Add spam to your favorite fried rice recipe in place of other types of meat
(or in fact in addition). Spam should be thinly sliced into match sticks.
enjoy!
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:32:38 CST
From: "Cynthia J. Hoffman" <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: SOS PR:Two new ideas
Okay. Dug out December's Locus magazine (the January one doesn't have con
listings in it...) and here's what we have:
January:
Arisia, Boston, January 12-14
Chattacon, Chattanooga, TN, January 12-14
Confusion, Michigan, January 12-14
Rustycon, Tacoma, Washington, January 12-14
Tropicon, Ft. Lauderdale, January 12-14
Reality Check, Annapolis, January 26-28
February:
Cremecon, Glendale, Wisconsin, February 2-4
Hurricon Clive, Ft. Walton, Florida, February 2-4
Potlatch, Portland, Oregon, February 2-4
Radcon, Pasco, Washington, February 16-18
Shevacon, Charlottesville, VA February 16-18
Anaconism, Lakewood, Colorado, February 16-19
Con-Cave, Park City, Kentucky, February 23-25
Con-Dor, San Diego, CA February 23-25
Geocon, Olympia, Washington February 23-25
There are more. I've edited out the obvious "we don't belong here" ones.
There is at least one con that I know of that's not listed, and that's
Escapade, which is being held in Santa Barbara, February 16-19. I know of
one list member who's going to be there, and I might be there as well.
If any of these are in your neck of the woods and you're interested in
helping the cause, just holler!
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoffman
choff@v.......
Forever Knight is in trouble; get more information at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:38:22 CST
From: "Cynthia J. Hoffman" <choff@v.......>
Subject: PR Possibility: Bad Subjects
The final word from the issue editor regarding my writing an article on the
current crisis:
********************
>Well, I personally find the collaborative writing slant most interesting,
>but the fan activism could be valuable too. Not knowing the article, I'd
>say 70% collab. fic, 30% saving the show. How does that sound?
So guys, I'm writing on the war, and incorporating the current battle into
the piece.
Any suggestions for an appropriate GIF? I'm allowed one this issue to go
with the article.
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoffman
choff@v.......
Forever Knight is in trouble; get more information at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:40:16 EWT
From: molly <MSREED@c.......>
Subject: Re: Press Release - Submission Posted (fwd)
i've been on nomail for a few weeks. is forever knight definitely being
canceled for the fourth season.
msreed
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:46:43 -0500
From: Zackary <ermartin@i.......>
Subject: Away
Yes I know this is annoying.
Someone please tell me how to get off the list.
Privately please.
One reason I want to get off the list is there is so much personal stuff
going. Take parties for example. It is nice to say hey everyone I am in
New York and having a party. The people who want to go should contact
that person and then it should be talked about off of the list. Then
later please do not assume we are all terribly interested in every little
detail of that party. If it relates to the show and all that is cool but
there are so many people on the list who will never know who you are or
the little inside jokes about what happened during a so and so party.
Think before you type boys and girls.
Peace and Love and Long Life.
---Zackary
--------
Love is blindness I don't want to
see. Won't you wrap the night around
me. Blindness.
--U2
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:16:48 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Graphics: Screen Captures: Credits
Hiya. Speaking as WebGoddess, here...
Is there, anywhere in existence, screen captures of the opening credits of
FK, from any season? Specifically, the parts where we get the actors'
names in that dripping-blood logo typeface?
I'm looking to expand my collection of logo 'font' graphics, for use on the
web page when I do that massive update I keep talking about (sometime this
week, when I have new data). I currently have fourteen letters of the
alphabet; would like to work out the remaining twelve (and variants for the
first fourteen).
If anyone can help me w/this, e-mail me HERE AT PIPELINE, off-list please!
<webgoddess mode OFF>
--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:37:41 -0500
From: David Friedman <dgf@u.......>
Subject: save fk article in Brockton,MA Enterprise newspaper
On page 24 of the Brockton (Massachusetts) "Enterprise" Newspaper
(Sports section back end is the entertainment/tv area) on Monday
January 8th 1996, just below and to the right of a Star Trek DS9
article was the following: (please pardon the copying oh "Enterprise"
but is it for a VERY worthy cause)
Title on bold: Another popular genre show,
"Forever Knight" - about a vampire cop in Toronto - is generating a lot
of noise on the Internet because the USA cable network has cancelled it
in the middle of the third season, with completed episodes yet to air.
A local viewer has sent word of a national campaign to save the show, with
gimmicks ranging from contributing to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation in
the show's name, to sending lottery scratch tickets to Columbia/TriStar
Television in hopes of financing the remainder of the season. If you're
a fan and want to let USA know what you think write to: Mr. Rod Perth,
President and Programming Executive Vice President, USA Networks, 2049
Century Park East, #0000, Los Angeles CA 90067.
Actually, it was my father, who often watches FK, who let me know
about this article in the paper.
David (dgf@u.......)
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:59:04 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: A foot and a half of snow...
I know this is slightly off topic but.....
I WANT SOME SNOW, TOO. (From a displaced New Yorker now living in Texas)
I WANT TO WAKE UP (in a city that never sleeps....) AND SEE THE WHITE STUFF
and pull the sheets over my head and then go out and play in it.
It's hard to teach students the snow song if they've never seen the white stuff.
(sniff, sniff) Ditto with autumn leaves.....
OK, whew, I got that out of my system. Back to writing letters.
Happy snow day.
Sharon
Come in 81 Kilo. We've got a show to save!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Sharon Joy
A Forever Knightie
SJoy@u.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:05:16 EST
From: MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......>
Subject: Fwd: Looking for CTV addresses
> Does anyone out there have the address for CTV programming? The national
> address
John Cassady, President (at least he was in May)
CTV 250 Yonge, Ste 1800
Toronto, ON
M5B 2N8
(416)-595-4100
> Also, I promised to look for a sword pin for someone while I was in
> Ottawa. I'm sorry but the Scottish shop and MasterMark Pewter didn't have
>
The Scottish Shop in Toronto had several, in different sizes, but I
forgot to get the prices(duh!)
Marg
ZEZQ01A@p.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:05:08 EST
From: MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Bouquets, etc.
Cindy Brewer wrote:
> How about a fairly cheap bottle of red wine or what's that other
> stuff,start's with an R....(I'm drawing a complete blank on the name and
> I've seen it posted a zillion times....<G>)
Please be careful with this one. Some companies have a policy that
having any alcohol, drugs, etc on one's desk is grounds for instant
dismissal.
Marg
ZEZQ01A@p.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:01:51 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Another link to the SFK page
Back last week, I checked out the Sci-Fi Channel's Dominion web page. They
have a whole section on TV web pages. I noticed they had a Save MST3K page
so I wrote and asked them to add the Save FK page. However, since USA owns
SFC I didn't want to put them in a bad position, or cause other SOS pages
to be removed from their site, so I gave them an out on that (we are a
considerate fandom after all).
The Webguy wrote back to me today and told me that being in a "dicey
position" (my term) made his job interesting, and that he was adding the
link to the page.
I always knew the people at SFC were cool despite who owns them, and now we
have proof. Please visit the page at:
http://www.scifi.com/orbit/scifitv.html
Sharon
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:29:41 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Arts & Crafts/Spamflowers
On Jan 08, 1996 19:05:08, 'MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......>' wrote:
>Cindy Brewer wrote:
>> How about a fairly cheap bottle of red wine or what's that other
>> stuff,start's with an R....(I'm drawing a complete blank on the name and
>> I've seen it posted a zillion times....<G>)
You can't HONESTLY be proposing to send Ribena...
I cannot think of a better way to NOT get the show renewed.
Better you should send cans of spam... no, wait... SPAMbouquets! Carve the
pink stuff into little flowers, lacquer 'em, stick 'em on the end of green
fuzzy pipecleaners...
...and stick the Spamflowers into an empty Ribena bottle, as a vase.
Yes, I have completely lost my mind... <g>
--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:36:52 -0500
From: Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: PR on the Web / Site Suggestion
I think I've just found (1) two remarkably excellent places to put our
various PR releases; (2) similar adjectivally describable places to put
links to the SFK Webpage; and (3) an interesting idea to attract *even
more* people to the SFK Webpage (if it ain't too much work: I know Jamie's
absolutely swamped).
The sites are
Stewart Brand's WELL: http://www.well.com/
which has places (more than one, I think -- someone with a faster link than
I should explore this) to list news and websites; and it has a link to
Awarenet: http://www.awarenet.com/
which talks, among other things, about a Cyberspace Be-in planned for
January 11 in San Francisco (maybe we can be part of this).
Also, Awarenet has a feature called VoteLink, which won a Best Interactive
Site award. One uses it to vote on and discuss political issues. So, the
idea: what if we did Bea's Short Form Survey (the 20 Questions done for
Arisia) on the Website? We could find out demographics (and remove
duplicates if we did it by email addresses) on who hits the site -- and
encourage more people to do so, since people *like* interactive sites, and
like to make their opinions heard.
Scary thought: what about a hotlink for email messages to TPTB? Is that
allowed/legal? Is it a good idea, even if it's okay? Is it possible? Just a
thought...
Anyway, do check out these two sites: they could be good places to spread
the word.
Rae M
rmontor@v.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:39:26 -0400
From: "Carolyn P. McLelan" <cmclelan@f.......>
Subject: Public Message Board Postings & Cards
Let's make sure we are keeping those Chariy cards going. Does anyone have
a recent count. Let's everyone swear to send at least 2 more before the night
is out!
Also, just an update. There are message/discussions started on a couple
of Web site discussion boards. Please join in and let's keep our topic
near the top of the updated topic list, and generate some more interest.
The sites I've posted to are:
Pathfinder - you have to register with them (no fee) your demographics, so
that they know how people are using the information, before you can reply
to any messages. The address to register with them is:
http://pathfinder.com/@@TKfHg6JfTwAAAC95/pathfinder/bbs-home.html
Then to jump to our Save Our Show topic, the address is:
http://pathfinder.com/@@NKOT6hGzYQMAQN94/boards/0018/0297/index.html
The other message/discussion base I've posted on is TV Net. The address
to our topic is:
http://tvnet.com/cgi-bin/TVpost/read/tv/2777
Carry on carrying on!
--
Rage, Rage against the dying of the Knight!
Carolyn P. McLelan Knightie Heartbreaker
For information on the campaign to save Forever Knight, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
(site is case sensitive)
cmclelan@f....... 102735.1111@c.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:01:46 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: SOS-FK FAQ??
Can someone e-mail me a *current* copy of the Save FK FAQ? I intend
to fax it to a few places that *just* occured to me.
BTW, I faxed a copy of the Charity and General press releases to the
Arizona Republic Newspaper.
The Mad Fax Spammer o/~ Spamming the night away... o/~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forever Knight is cancelled! Write nightmist@g....... for info
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:29:43 -1000
From: "Heidi S. McKeon" <beagle4u@l.......>
Subject: 1/13 EPISODE
Check with your local affilaites. My local station, KHNL 13 IN HAWAII,
shows that episode 312 'Strings' will air this weekend 1/13. So check w/
your stations so that you don't miss it. The web page has the shcedule off
by a week.
Heidi
Heidi
beagle4u@l.......
"We swaer by peace and love to stand
Heart to heart and hand in hand" from druidic blessing.
**************************************************************
Waving a flag for Duncan & Methos
<<<<<<()===================>>
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:27:24 -0500
From: Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Response from WKBW
Hi y'all,
After reading several posts that encouraged us to write to our syndicated
station, I searched around and found the web page for WKBW, the Buffalo
station that carries Forever Knight. They had a place for sending e-mail to
the Programming Director, so I sent her a nice message, praising Forever
Knight, thanking them for giving it such a nice timeslot (12:05 a.m. on
Saturday/Sunday is much better than some I've heard of), and asking that
they continue showing FK, and that they request it at NATPE.
The following is the response I got. I'm not really sure what to make of
it. I'm going to write back and ask her if this means that they won't be
showing the rest of the third season. I'll let you know what she says.
If nothing else, we now have the name of someone to write to at WKBW.
All it makes me want to do is start writing more and more and more letters.
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:10:40 -0500
>X-Sender: snorat@w.......
>To: Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
>From: Sarah Norat-Phillips <snorat@w.......>
>Subject: Re:
>
>>Dear Jane,
>
>Thank-you for your recent communication on Forever Knight. I have also been
>a fan of the show for a while. Unfortunately, the program is being pulled
>out of production and will not be available in syndication next season. We
>will look for interesting programming to fill this slot. If you hear of any
>good products out there feel free to share your opinions with us.
>
>Sincerely,
>Sarah Norat - Phillips
>Program Director
Jane (janes@i.......)
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Reality is a Crutch for the Unimaginative -- Ben Bova (Death Dream)
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:38:13 -0500
From: Marf Shopmyer <aa108460@d.......>
Subject: ISO Felicia Lecou
Felicia,
Call K. Krumrey and suck up to her. She misses you. I tried to enlist
her to help in The Cause (plus another one) and she mentioned you got her
involved before.
marf -- back to lurking.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:44:28 -0400
From: "Carolyn P. McLelan" <cmclelan@f.......>
Subject: FK Rave Ratings in September
When you're talking/writing to sponsors, affiliates, reporters, etc.
Here's the web site address of the rave ratings FK was getting in
September. You might also wish to point some of your contacts here tool
http://www.cognito.com/0003/articles/00017326/17326824.htm
--
Rage, Rage against the dying of the Knight!
Carolyn P. McLelan Knightie Heartbreaker
For information on the campaign to save Forever Knight, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
(site is case sensitive)
cmclelan@f....... 102735.1111@c.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:57:52 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: Telemunchen and vows
Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......> writes...
>First- about the telemunchen thing...if you are going to write and you are
>not fluent in German, I would highly recommend you NOT attempt to translate!
>You may think you're saying one thing when actually you are saying another.
I'll bet that it's one of two things that you're talking about here...
>For example (warning! anecdote follows..) I took German in college because my
>inlaws are German and I thought it would be nice to communicate w/ them
>occasionally. *Huge* mistake! I barely eeked through it. Anyway, I got
>called on in class one day to make up a sentence. It was summer, so I said
>"Ich bin heiss" which is "I am hot" directly translated from English. Turns
>out that when you say it like that, it means "I am horny"
I knew it! :-)
I've never taken a German course, but I know a few little bits, here and
there. The two _worst_ mistakes to make, as I was told, are "Ich bin heiss"
and "Ich bin colte" (blast, I forget the spelling of that one). In the case
of the second, it literally means "I am dead".
That's why one is supposed to say "Ich habbe heiss" (literally "I have hot")
to say "I'm hot", and "Ich habbe colte" ("I have cold"). I got a laugh out of
being told about those two potential boo-boo's.
>My teacher got a good laugh.(but still gave me a "D" for the course, the
>bastard!) Moral of the story: just write it in English!! if its postmarked
>from Kansas they *know* you're American!!! Don't worry about
>impressing them...we're not trying to buy the company! I think they would be
>happy for our gratitude whether its written in Swahili, japanese, or just
>plain old English!
Hmm, but if you send it in German, they won't have to send in the
translators... :-)
W.
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont. "GOiDS Rule"
1995-96 Managing Editor, _The New Edition_, U of T ; Treasurer, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE ; Toronto Liaison Officer, M.E.R.G.E.
Proud Member of the National Coalition of Free Men (NCFM)
"Any sufficiently advanced intuition is indistinguishable from telepathy."
- Steeves' Law
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:05:23 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: SOS Fan Presidents Mail Loop
Apache <lf@c.......> writes...
> The following is the test/intro post of this Loop. It asks that
>anyone who should be on the loop but is not (e.g, the Prez of FK Canada?)
Ah, well as far as I know, Tracy Essam doesn't have e-mail access. However, I
would be more than glad to pass any messages along to her, on her behalf,
unless someone else wishes to step forward and do so instead. (Lynne, do you
want to do this instead? Anna/Jonathan? Hilary?)
Unless someone else _really_ wants the job that badly, I'd be glad to take
messages for her, and communicate her thoughts to your e-mail loop.
Hopefully, she'll get mail access soon, though!
W.
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont. "GOiDS Rule"
1995-96 Managing Editor, _The New Edition_, U of T ; Treasurer, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE ; Toronto Liaison Officer, M.E.R.G.E.
Proud Member of the National Coalition of Free Men (NCFM)
"Any sufficiently advanced intuition is indistinguishable from telepathy."
- Steeves' Law
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:20:51 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Oh no.... USA, where's FK?
My screen crawl shows Silk Stalkings on at 10, not the Hearts of
Darkness rerun I'm really looking forward to...
anyone know the story here? eeeeeeee what about tomorrow?
Thursday. Thanks.
L.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:26:40 -0500
From: Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: all-fandom boycott of USA?
Here's a random idea I had this afternoon after reading something Sharon had
on her NatPack page about how USA is buying up shows and stripping
'em/destroying 'em to get "free" stuff for the Sci-Fi Channel (sorry for the
bad paraphrasing...but that's the basic idea, as I understand it):
Since USA is doing this not only to FK, but did do it to TekWar, and is
apparently tampering with Highlander, as well...what if there were to be a
cross-fandom boycott of USA?
Maybe this procedure is good business for USA, but it's bad news for us fans,
the very people they're trying to "please" on the Sci-Fi Channel! With our
numbers, plus fans of HL, TekWar, etc., not to mention the sheer number of
SF/fantasy fans of *all* sorts out there who are aware of and displeased by
what's going on (or who need to know!)....we could cause quite a stir, I
think, and raise a little consciousness, garner a little media attention,
possibly turn things around, if not for FK, then for all of the good little
shows to come in the future...
Now, I don't know if we want to make USA *too* angry--we do want FK, after
all! But still...I think that it would pay to make use, somehow, of our
knowledge of how the "other side" operates.
This is a half-formed, stray thought, as I said, but I'd like to open it up
to discussion.
Opinions, everybody?
Lisa
MVRJasper@a.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:28:24 -0500
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Re: Ben Bass and Graves' disease
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, michael wayne jackson wrote:
[snip]
>results in goitre) and by exophthalmos (protrusion of the eyeballs), with
>eyelid retraction and other eye signs."
>
>According to her, Marty Feldman had Graves' disease. Does anyone know if
>the connection to Mr. Bass is merely my friend's overactive imagination or not?
Yes, Marty Feldman had Graves' disease and so do I. Excessive blinking
is not one of the other eye signs.
--
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:44:03 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Away
Hey Zachary--lighten up. Relating such info helps in creating a sense of
community. Frankly, that sense of community is what has empowered this
list during this crisis. Since that sense of community seems to distress
you leaving the list is a good idea. Bye.
Barbara
Forgive me for including the entire message--the system I am on is
difficult at times.
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Zackary wrote:
> Yes I know this is annoying.
> Someone please tell me how to get off the list.
> Privately please.
> One reason I want to get off the list is there is so much personal stuff
> going. Take parties for example. It is nice to say hey everyone I am in
> New York and having a party. The people who want to go should contact
> that person and then it should be talked about off of the list. Then
> later please do not assume we are all terribly interested in every little
> detail of that party. If it relates to the show and all that is cool but
> there are so many people on the list who will never know who you are or
> the little inside jokes about what happened during a so and so party.
> Think before you type boys and girls.
>
> Peace and Love and Long Life.
>
> ---Zackary
>
>
>
> --------
> Love is blindness I don't want to
> see. Won't you wrap the night around
> me. Blindness.
> --U2
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:45:19 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: What to do with WKBW Response
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Jane Snyder wrote:
I sent her a nice message, praising Forever
> Knight, thanking them for giving it such a nice timeslot (12:05 a.m. on
> Saturday/Sunday is much better than some I've heard of), and asking that
> they continue showing FK, and that they request it at NATPE.
> Her response
> >>Dear Jane,
> >
> >Thank-you for your recent communication on Forever Knight. I have also been
> >a fan of the show for a while. Unfortunately, the program is being pulled
> >out of production and will not be available in syndication next season.
This is a potential ally! At a minimum, we should send her the
press releases, but definitely also write back and ask if she is willing
to ASK FOR the show at NATPE. TriSTar is a sitting duck there...
Also, ask how she know it wasn't available; it's been interesting
how many programming execs at stations don't know that yet.
Apache
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:31:55 PST
From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: Response from WKBW
Jane - Ms. Sarah Norat-Phillips of WKBW does not sound like much of a fan to
me. She sounds totally disinterested in the fact that the show isn't going
to be available for syndication. Are there other people in the Buffalo area,
on-line or off, who could pelt her with a heavy load of letters and suggest
that the show might become available for syndication if Program Directors got
off their duffs and asked for it? People might also let her know that they
don't care about "other interesting programs to fill the time slot? (I don't
want another one, I want *that* one! in other words).
Of course one doesn't want to anger a program director, so it should be done
nicely. But this lady does need to be made aware that there is more than one
person asking for the show (as if they're precious 12:05 a.m. time slot was
worth much!). Too bad you can't turn her on to the Net... If nothing else,
give her some idea of just how much is going on to SOS; might be an
eye-opener for her.
SLG
**Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. us011164@p....... --
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had
such friends" in Forever Knight. SAVE FK! Write for info re SOS webpage**
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:41:09 PST
From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Seattle trip
I'm going to be in Seattle from Thursday until early Sunday morning. Can
anyone in that area tell me if FK is on in Seattle during those days; if so,
what time? Anything going on regarding SOS activities by Seattle area folks
that I could help with? If nothing else, I don't want to miss the next show,
and I'm not too trusting of my mother to work the VCR correctly while I'm
gone.
If people want to send something besides the same old letters, try cards that
are blank inside so you can write your own message. I've found some really
great cards with unusal pictures that you can use as a basis for your
comments. ie. a little dog flat on its back with a fan blowing over it (you
know how dogs lay to cool off from the heat? -- a funny pic that catches the
eye, at least) and I wrote inside "The news about FK knocked me flat on my
back!!), then proceeded with the rest of the message. Or a man sitting in a
chair in front of an audio speaker that appears to be blasting him half out
of the seat, "The news about FK blew me away!" You get the idea.... The
point is, its catchier than the same old letter, humourous, and they have to
open the card to read it. Works for me...
SLG
**Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. us011164@p....... --
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had
such friends" in Forever Knight. SAVE FK! Write for info re SOS webpage**
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:09:09 -0500
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: What The . . . ?
Gang:
Has USA removed FK from Mondays 10 p.m. already? My _TV Guide_ said
that FK was supposed to be on, but I turn on the tube and _Silk Stalkings_
is on.
Kinda funny that it gave me an ObFK: the show started out in a strip
club with lots of scantily clad women, and I thought -- "this _could_ be FK;
after all, Uncle does allow strippers now." In a way it's sad that you can't
tell the two shows apart, though.
If someone can tell me via private e-mail that this is indeed what
USA has done, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Y'all are great.
Pat -- the Lone Nanette
. . . with increasing FoD tendencies
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:09:19 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Silk Stalkings in FK's time slot!
Hmm, I guess USA was serious about that cancellation thing.
I just tried to watch FK at 10pm EST on Monday, when the TV Guide had it in
the schedule, & ended up getting Silk Stalkings instead. I guess I'll
try again at 11pm, when the TV Guide said Silk Stalkings was supposed to
air. Maybe they switched time slots. I assumed USA would at least
finish out the month with FK!
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
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* _`\<,_ Contact me at percy91@w....... to find out *
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:00:38 -0500
From: Lillian Feden <feden@m.......>
Subject: Re: Oh no.... USA, where's FK?
At 09:20 PM 1/8/96 -0500, Apache wrote:
> My screen crawl shows Silk Stalkings on at 10, not the Hearts of
>Darkness rerun I'm really looking forward to...
>
> anyone know the story here? eeeeeeee what about tomorrow?
>Thursday. Thanks.
>
>L.
>
When I saw the first few seconds I just <knew> it was Silk Stalkings. I
remembered HOD started with that "Let's get naked" line, but I didn't
remember it being <that> bad.
I wonder if that's the last we're going to see of FK on USA.
Lillian
feden@m....... aka RotsaRuck@a.......
Knightie; Optimist's Club
Help Save Forever Knight!
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:13:00 EST
From: Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: Oh no.... USA, where's FK?
> My screen crawl shows Silk Stalkings on at 10, not the Hearts of
>Darkness rerun I'm really looking forward to...
>
> anyone know the story here? eeeeeeee what about tomorrow?
>Thursday. Thanks.
In my local TV guide its listed for Tuesday. In the TV Guide it says Monday
and Tuesday. Go figure
Maryann Jorgensen majorge@i.......
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