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Digest - 4 Jan 1996 - Special issue

Thu, 4 Jan 1996

There are 33 messages totalling 1091 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Topic Rae - whoops, apologies...
  2. Huh?
  3. FK in Australia
  4. RAE: Please give this to your sysop.
  5. Ooops & OBFK... (3)
  6. Us New, Ahem, Perkulators
  7. Resumption of FK filming (2)
  8. If we pull this off... (2)
  9. TEST!
 10. Sci Fi Buzz
 11. These Are A Few Of My Favorite Things
 12. Retraction and Cigarette
 13. FK in DC
 14. SOS-FK idea
 15. Fan clubs
 16. PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)
 17. Another place to advertise?
 18. NB on X-Men
 19. Telemunchen e-mail/Web address?
 20. Some promises... (2)
 21. SPAM-the food
 22. Whimper of Joy
 23. Um.. what about TeleMunchen?
 24. Promises, promises...
 25. The resolution:  Bike for PAF
 26. Resolutions
 27. vows
 28. Imho: The Good Fight

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:03:52 -0500
From:    Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: Topic Rae - whoops, apologies...

It seems that I made a really bit -whoops_ here.


Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......> writes:
>Ahm, I'm not sure whether you were serious or not, but I didn't see
>any humor marks.

Oh oh....



>Topics for a list have to be established and set by the listowner(s).

OOPS!!  I thought that the "topics" command could screen anything that was
placed in capital letters before a colon, in a message topic.


>It takes a command to the listserv, just as any other thing that takes
>listowner privilleges does. All trying to set topics -rae will get you is an
>error message. You'd have to get Jaye or Laurie Salopek to set up Rae as a
>topic before you could use it as one. As of now, "Rae:" will go out to anyone
>on the list no matter how they set their topics.

>Again, if you knew this and were just being funny, I apologize for taking it
>seriously.

Actually, sorry about that... I seriously _am_ trying to solve this problem,
and I'm sure that you don't want the entire list being involved forever.  Rae
actually told me a different address to send mail to, but it _bounced_.  Ugh.

(...sounds of violins...)

W.

---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i.......          "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont.   "GOiDS Rule"

1995-96 Managing Editor, _The New Edition_, U of T ; Treasurer, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE ; Toronto Liaison Officer, M.E.R.G.E.
Proud Member of the National Coalition of Free Men (NCFM)

"Any sufficiently advanced intuition is indistinguishable from telepathy."
     - Steeves' Law

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:22:44 -0700
From:    Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Huh?

On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Cynthia J. Hoffman wrote:

> My guess is that the below is Hearts of Darkness...

I think this is right because of the part about a possible 'cure' for Nick

SPOILER WARNING








I can't remember the name of the woman who has the multiple personalities
in this episode who is a vampire but near the end, Natalie tells Nick to
think about it because this woman, when she was a human personality could
go out in the sun, etc. like a human but obviously wouldn't be able to
when the vampire personality came out which was at nite. So, if he had a
multiple personality or something along those lines, he might be able to
do the same?

Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:30:04 +22303754
From:    Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject: FK in Australia

On 4 Jan 1996 Rhys Threlfall wrote:

> Here in Australia FK will finish its first season tonight (thurs). Most
> eps where shown in 94/95 the remainder late 95 early 96 another network
> has bought seasons 2 and I believe season 3 as well. Although I have seen
> season 2 but nothing from 3 as yet.

<*bounce bounce*>  Great!  Have you any idea which network bought it?
Hopefully it will be a network which doesn't do as Nine does and buy
sf/fantasy shows only to hide them away in a closet for years at a time.

Always hopeful,

Christine Hawkins.

      *  "I'm what you might call a man of action" -- Don Schanke  *
      *                   to Janette in "Hunters".                 *
      *       Christine Hawkins   ~   c.hawkins@n.......         *

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:29:29 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: Re: RAE: Please give this to your sysop.

>
> For those who are _really_ tired of this soap-opera like attempt to get mail
> communication re-established between myself and Rae, please send a message to
> listserv@psu.psu.edu, saying:
>
> "set forkni-l topics -RAE"

*Better Idea*

Send them to *me* <moonlight@c.......> with the header "RAE" and I'll
bounce them to her.  I have had *no* problems getting through and it would
save a lot of bandwidth at a critical time.

Dianne
The Mad Digester :-)
Dianne la Mercenaire...   -*-   <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
*Web info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Daily digest/list-summary email loop:  moonlight@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:34:48 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: Ooops & OBFK...

That last post to Will was supposed to be private, sorry all!

You know you've been an FKer too long <possible???<g> when...

...you're at a staff meeting and the dermatologist you've been
hired to do a web page for says: "People want to live forever
and look good doing it!" --and you have to fight to keep a
straight face. :-)

...you're heading home from that staff meeting and on the freeway
you pass a big semi full of "Garlic, Fresh from Gilroy!" and all
you can think about it what would happen if one of those crashed
in downtown TO... <g>

Dianne
The Mad Digester :-)
Dianne la Mercenaire...   -*-   <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
*Web info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Daily digest/list-summary email loop:  moonlight@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:43:12 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Us New, Ahem, Perkulators

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Deanna Dudney wrote:

> Signed (I can't believe I have to do this)
> Deanna
> A Happy Perkulator

        I don't remember any more who was the lone, lorn Perkulator
before this all started.  I do recall that I was not the only one who
made this vow...  Deanna has 'fessed up, but who else?

        And what exactly do we have to do?  Exactly?.... oh dear oh dear

        I guess I'm writing for an affiliation pin, for one thing... oh
dear oh dear  ,,,I've had Leo McKern from the old Beatles movie "Help!" going
through my mind ever since I learned the Black Buddha was really
Kai-ee-leeeee...
         Just like the old Brick to mess up his life with the wrong god,
eh?  "Help!" ... another good song dedication!



Laura
born a Vaquera
Happy Happy Perkulator now

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:42:40 -0800
From:    Karin Welss <KWELSS@u.......>
Subject: Resumption of FK filming

Okay, now that Apache has broken the good news about TriStar filming the
remainder of season 3, I can confirm that this news is indeed true, and that
filming on the last set of 6 episodes begins January 8th.

:-) :-) :-)

Minor extra piece of gossip: we can look forward to two more Gillian Horvath
episodes this season: "Fever," airing at the end of January, and one more in
the last 6 eps.

<*doing the dance of joy joy joy*>

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 Oracle Corporation          000-000-0000
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  idiot."  -- Anon
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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:54:47 -0600
From:    "Susanne M. Clark" <sclark@u.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...

>At 12:05 PM 1/3/96 -0600, Jennifer Mingee wrote:
>
>>I...uh...will learn the Texas A&M fight song... AND SING IT IN PUBLIC AT
>>THE NEXT TEXAS AREA FK PARTY.
>>Gag!!!
>Linda wrote:
>Oh, Jennifer, you would!  GAG.  GAG!  GAG!  GAG!  But if you can do it, so
>can I.

Ladies:  All together now.  Goodbye to Texas University/So long to the
Orange and the White/Good luck to dear old Texas Aggies/They are the ones
that show the real old fight/The eyes of Texas are upon you...We'll get the
other half later before the formal performance :).  And per MY vow, the
aviation show viewings and playing of DOOM II and will commence immediately.

Susanne Clark
sclark@u.......
Forever Knightie
Texas A&M classes of '86(B.B.A.) and '88(M.A.)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:02:00 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: TEST!

****Test post, please ignore!***

Damn!  Everybody reads these things anyway.  You're _all_
out there reading this!  I know it!  Go away!  Nothing to see!
Move it along, peoples.  Go back to your homes.

(It's not working, is it?)

>        *When* we pull this off <g>...
>               I will write (and <gulp!>_ post_!) a story in
>               which Tracy gets the better of LaCroix *and*
>               Nick is not made fun of or injured in _any_ way.
> <gasp!>
> Sorry, folks, that's giving my *all* right there! <g>
> Dianne

uh...um...

*surely* no one's gonna hold me to something that *ridiculous*?

Right?

...oh...<sigh>...o.k...

<mee mee mee>

**********************************************************
"The Right Stuff" (1/1)
   by a Merc

Deep in the Toronto night the voice of the Nightcrawler
echoed.  Suddenly the mesmerizing, rich tone was broken by a
resounding crash as the door to the broadcast booth burst open.

"Hands in the air, bloodsucker," Detective Tracy Vetter
yelled, waving her weapon at the astounded vampire, "You're
under arrest!"

"You _must_ be joking."  The quiet menace in the tone was
enough to make any sane person run for the hills.  Tracy stood
her ground.

"I've got full rounds of garlic-laced holy water in this gun,
buster," she smiled as LaCroix winced, "and I'm not afraid to
use them!"

LaCroix sighed deeply, as though all the weight of his two
thousand years had decended upon him.  "You've got me," he
admitted sadly.  "Very impressive work, detective.  I'll go
peacefully."

And he did.

Nick, meanwhile, stood quietly to one side and sustained no
injuries whatsoever.

*The End*
***************************************************

*TA-DAH!*

<ducks>
...o.k....o.k...I'll write a _real_ one, I *promise*.
(Can't risk reneging now...!)
I just need time to think... and _pray_ for inspiration... <g>

Dianne
The Mad Digester :-)
Dianne la Mercenaire...   -*-   <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
*Web info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Daily digest/list-summary email loop:  moonlight@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:03:25 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Sci Fi Buzz

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Tammy Stephanie Davis wrote:

> Has any mention been made to the SciFi Channel's "SciFi Buzz"
> about our efforts?
>
        To the best of my knowledge, no one has yet.  We are talking about
calling them with a comprehensive message that will give the firm dates
of the earliest things in which people can participate, like the PAF
campaign (with a specific money turnover date), blood drives in New York,
DC (and ?) which are aiming to occur pre-NATPE, and so on.

        A nice irony, eh... use USA's puppy channel to publicize our
crusade?

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:01:00 GMT
From:    Katy Deery <gb61@d.......>
Subject: Re: These Are A Few Of My Favorite Things

I love anything that involves Nick and Lacroix sharing one of their
'Moments' together where you realise there is more to this relationship
that meets the eye.  I loved the bit in Curiouser & Curiouser when Nick
obviously doesn't want to believe that Lacroix is dead.  We know he
doesn't really hate Lacroix at all, but sometimes things happen to make
him face that fact and realise what life would <really> be like without his
'oldest friend'.

Katy Deery  <gb61@d.......>

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:09:35 -0600
From:    Linda Pulis <l.pulis@m.......>
Subject: Re: Ooops & OBFK...

At 02:34 PM 1/4/96 -0800, Dianne Therese De Sha wrote:

>...you're heading home from that staff meeting and on the freeway
>you pass a big semi full of "Garlic, Fresh from Gilroy!" and all
>you can think about it what would happen if one of those crashed
>in downtown TO... <g>

Or if Nick ran into it while he was having a flashback!  <EG>

Cousin Linda                                            l.pulis@m.......
Dreading having to sing the Aggie fight song, but thankful for the reason
behind it.

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:16:23 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Retraction and Cigarette

In the spirit of being high-minded, mature, forward-thinking and showing
goodwill toward all, even those who treat you like crap (as befits the
WebGoddess)...  I hereby retract any and all statements made in my previous
post "Business Matters", which was mistakenly directed to the list by my
$#@! mailer, which the Pipeline software people INSIST has no glitches in
the programming.

The above statement has required a cigarette, in order to complete.

The Patron Saints of Cancelled Television Shows will just have to
understand.

--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***
Kicking the Nicotine Habit for Forever Knight!  (I am.  Really.)
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:23:30 EST
From:    MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: FK in DC

     This is for everyone who watches FK on WBDC, channel 50 in
Washington DC. It will air two hours later than usual, at 1am late
Saturday/early Sunday due to a telethon.

Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......>

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:30:27 -0700
From:    "Tiger Tiger burning bright....." <tango@u.......>
Subject: SOS-FK idea

Okay, I just received word that Alpha Centuri, a science fiction society
in my city, is meeting tomorrow night.

I'm going to spread the word about FK while I'm there. I know sci-fi
isn't fantasy, but there are a lot of Crossover fans(me included! <g>)
who might be able to help.

LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT!! :)=

*******************************************
Erika.             *
Knightie,NatPacker * "You know, Nicholas,
Nick&NatPacker     * sometimes you really
extrodinare!       * are one umbrella short
                   * of a cocktail."
tango@u.......     * Natalie, Curiouser & Curiouser
******************************************
SW Fan, HL Fan, X-Phile & LGW #24
'The Few, the Proud, the Paranoid.'
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT!(E-Mail me for details)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:43:27 -0500
From:    Susan Honig <SUEKENN@a.......>
Subject: Fan clubs

Just to let you know I got my mailing from the Forever Knight Fan club with
all the correct addresses to mail to.

I also Spoke to the President of Forever Knight Canada and her mailing is
going out tomorrow.

Sue
SUEKENN@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:04:39 -0800
From:    Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)

Hi All!

Just so no Forever Knight fan can say they "forgot"!!

Laura (Apache)   started this whole thing off on 1/2/96 with her Forever
                 Knight Resolutions.  She promised to eat SPAM, join the
                 Perkulators and *take up sex*.  She *also* promised to
                 form the Lisa Ryder Fan Club if we got the 4th season.

Sharon Himmamen  will eat a can of SPAM

Julie M Randall  our Webgodess (did I spell that right?) will QUIT SMOKING!

Karen Tobin      will stop biting her nail, watch Outside the Line 5 times
                 and lose 25 pounds

Jane Snyder      will attend 3 months of sporting events with her husband

Abbey (?)        will watch Blind Faith, type with capial letters for a
                 week, won't use ellipses and sing the Trojan Fight song in
                 Nebraska

Diane Layno      will go without chocolate for 1 month and admit that Tracy
                 isn't *that* bad

Susan Garrett    will wash the Caddie

Lisa Ann Prince  will watch "Campus Cops"  *and* write TPTB saying she
                 enjoyed it (this I *gotta* read;does the List get a copy?)

Jill Kirby       will give up Diet Cola *forever*

Sandy Martino    will watch "Silk Stalkings" - the new one or the ones with
                 Rita and Chris???

Lillian Feder    will ride the Healthrider 3 times a week or more (for how
                 long?)

Muldy Sculler    will *give up* sex (again, for how long, Barbara???)

Torrey Harris    will join our Webgoddess and give up smoking

Sue Hoenig       will maintain her loss of 32 pounds (jealous looks all
                 around, Sue!) and go through Tax season without complaint

Cindy Brewer     will give up taping "All My Children" (for how long?)

Chanda Keith     will give blood - way to go, girl!!!  Chanda is deathly
                 afraid of needles and I bow in respect to this resolution!

Diane De Sha     will write a fanfic with Tracy as the heroine and Nick
                 not being the butt of her jokes

Felicia Bollin   will write pro-Janette fanfic and finish these stories;
                 she will join the Optimists Club and write to any and all
                 shows that mention Forever Knight.  She will *also* never
                 say "no FK is better than bad FK" ever, ever, ever again!

Christina        will not eat chocolate until Easter and will Rollerblade
Kamnikar         on her lunch hour; if we get the 4th season, she won't eat
                 chocolate until Halloween (that's 10 looong months!!)

Susanne Clark    will watch any aviation program of her husband's choice
                 and give up *some* computer time in favor of Doom II

Marg Rothschild  will give up Pepsi and lose 20 pounds

Leslie Remencus  will learn, and sing, all the lyrics to "The Sound of
                 Music" and never watch "Only the Lonely" again

Tami LaFrank     will play "kiss and tell" about what happened to her and
                 Miklos and the Mai Tais in the last war

Kristina Mairi   will not be thanatophobic, will enroll in a biology
                 course, will join the Perkulators *and* watch Beverly
                 Hills, 90210" with her brother (*such* sacrifice!:) )

Ngaire Genge     she will write letters to TPTB on a regular basis

Jennifer Minge   will learn the Texas A&M fight song and sing it at the
                 next Texas FK party and also write regular letter to TPTB

Allison Percy    *will* join the Perkulators and wear an "OK, now I'm
                 Perky" button.  She will also do a bicycle tour from
                 Philadelphia to Toronto and raise funds for PAF
                 (seriously?)

Laura Waskey     will eat a Big Mac (you have my total sympathy :( )

Patrick Kortner  will quit smoking, not call Nick a "b***k, and be nicer
                 to Tracy and the Perkulators (does this include Allison?)

Deanna Dudly     will force her kids to eat SPAM (and may try some also :)
                 will watch "Silk Stalkings" *and* join the Perkulators

Dawn Steele      will forego chocolate until March (the 1st??:) )and hand
                 in all her papers *on time*

Marina Bailey    will rinse twice weekly with that delicious combo of salt
                 and bicarbonate of soda and allow her dad in the lounge to
                 watch TV more often

Michelle Mark    will join Allison's bicycle tour to Toronto *and* will
                 buy, and listen to, Michael Jackson's "HIStory"

Kristy Fickert   will stop smoking, along with Jamie and Pat (I can see
                 *this* trio now :) :) :)

Jill Marie       will never make fun of German TV and the German obsession
Spetoskey        with Knight Rider and David Hasselhoff again (at least
                 they got *half* the show's name right:) )

Sorry if I missed anyone...there were an awful lot of posts to go through to
come up with this; Good luck on your resolutions, everyone!  Success to all
and to our efforts!



Jackie

Support your local Attorney
Send your kid to Medical School
ejdjd@i.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:57:17 -0500
From:    Lillian Feden <feden@m.......>
Subject: Another place to advertise?

I was talking to my vendor about the cost and timing of plastic bags for
NATPE and he asked what show we were going to.  When I said NATPE, he said
<they> were going to NATPE.  They do alot of work for the broadcasting
industry.  He gets a newsletter faxed to him weekly from a group, Promax (I
think). They are a group of broadcasting executives.  He says that they take
ads for their newsletter and it's hitting just the audience we're looking
for.  I'll get the number etc. from him tomorrow.

Lillian
feden@m.......   aka   RotsaRuck@a.......
Knightie; Optimist's Club
Help Save Forever Knight!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:09:59 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <raissa@i.......>
Subject: NB on X-Men

Sorry about that guys. The show was on 4:30 (EST).

                                Raissa Devereux
                                raissa@i.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:11:44 -0400
From:    "Carolyn P. McLelan" <cmclelan@f.......>
Subject: Telemunchen e-mail/Web address?

I've searching, but so far, all I've found in references to Telemunchen on
pages as it refers to FK.  Has any one found an e-mail address or Web site
yet?

--
       Rage, Rage against the dying of the Knight!


                  Carolyn P. McLelan
                  Knightie Heartbreaker
For information on the campaign to save Forever Knight, check out
   http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
  cmclelan@f.......             102735.1111@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:05:55 -0500
From:    Lillian Feden <feden@m.......>
Subject: Some promises...

I think that those who promised to watch USA shows have an out.  I mean, USA
hasn't backed down, right?  Do we want to support them?  Do we actually want
to support shows like Campus Cops?  ::gag::

As for the rest of us... we should still be on the hook.  And since I never
said how long I'd be on the Healthrider, I'll say at least 20 minutes (the
minimum to get any results).  There, I've committed myself.  Or maybe I
should be committed, for many reasons.

Lillian
feden@m.......   aka   RotsaRuck@a.......
Knightie; Optimist's Club
Help Save Forever Knight!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:56:13 -1000
From:    "Heidi S. McKeon" <beagle4u@l.......>
Subject: SPAM-the food

Hey for all you who will be eating spam,  buck up its not all that bad.
It a staple here in Hawaii.
try cutting up in saimin(sorry ramen for you mainlanders) or putting in
fried rice.
As Mikey would say "try it you'll like it"
Heidi

 Heidi McKeon
BEAGLES4US@a.......
Beagle4u@l.......
                Your dog loves you when no one else does
*********************************************************
"We swear by peace and love to stand
Heart to heart and hand in hand
Mark,O Spirit, and hear us now,
Confirming this our sacred vow"
a druidic blessing for unity
 *******************************************************************

  Waving a flag for Duncan &Methos
                   @
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                    @

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:32:00 CST
From:    Jill Kirby <jtkirby@m.......>
Subject: Whimper of Joy

Jamie said...
>Jill?  You out there?  Enjoy that last Diet Coke, dear...

Then Mike deviously posted...
>Join me in a diet Coke, Jill?

Ack.  I'm absolutely ecstatic and ready to die at the same time!

As much as I'd like to take Mike up on his suggested loophole, I don't play
that way.  As soon as I get official confirmation (JP or FM or NB) that
we're getting the rest of this season, the DC is GONE.  I may need to go
down to one a day for a week or so (my doctor told me once that I do so much
caffeine that she would <never> let me go cold turkey; I'd be sick as a dog)
but I'll be off of it long before I cheer Deb on in HF.

I'll save so much money that I'll never miss a con again.

I think we need to start a support group for FK fen giving things up-- it'll
be a mighty crabby group for a while!

And may I close by saying that I send Laurie CF a huge virtual hug regarding
the ad in EM. What a wonderful, generous act that will look SO good to the
programming folk at NATPE...

Jill
***
Jill Kirby - jtkirby@m....... - http://www.mcs.net/~jtkirby/
Forever Knight has been cancelled-- check out:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
           We have not yet begun to fight!

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:35:21 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Some promises...

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Lillian Feden wrote:

> I think that those who promised to watch USA shows have an out.  I mean, USA
> hasn't backed down, right?  Do we want to support them?  Do we actually want
> to support shows like Campus Cops?  ::gag::

        My original vow said "as God is my witness," not  "as USA is my
witness"   (TNT was showing Gone with the Wind again).

        God moved in a mysterious way, if you ask me, in Germany, a
country he seemed to content to leave untouched for much of this century,
and in a company we hadn't even thought to get an address for.

        Personally, I don't want to mess with divine providence, and I'm
sticking to what I said to the letter.  The Spam, of course, is also
sticking to me, but that's another story. (And the take-up-sex one...  oh
god, diet city.  Plus, I forget how....).

        I mean, maybe God has plans for KK that we wot not of,
eh? ...  Like, for example, give those new Saturday shows twelve weeks to
tank and then come back with 20% of FK's next season (and no damn escape
clause in the contract this time)?

        But our letters could say, "Because it was advertised on Forever
Knight, I gave your program 'Campus Cops' a look this Saturday
evening...."
        And for Lisa, who rashly promised to *praise* Campus
Cops... well, maybe you can say the colors were nice and bright, and the
sound was clear?  -- That's a real hard one, I have to agree....

Cheers

Laura
I'm a *good* co ...er, Perkulator

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:39:30 -0500
From:    Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject: Re: Resumption of FK filming

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Karin Welss wrote:

> Okay, now that Apache has broken the good news about TriStar filming the
> remainder of season 3, I can confirm that this news is indeed true, and that
> filming on the last set of 6 episodes begins January 8th.

Yes!  The day after my birthday.  Couldn't ask for more for a birthday
present.

> Minor extra piece of gossip: we can look forward to two more Gillian Horvath
> episodes this season: "Fever," airing at the end of January, and one more in
> the last 6 eps.

Well if "Blackwing" is an example of what to expect, then I looked forward
even moreso to seeing the rest of the season (if thats possible.)

  --tsd@u....... (A happy Knightie.)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:39:33 -0500
From:    Anne Merrill <Amely@a.......>
Subject: Um.. what about TeleMunchen?

A friend of mine called TeleMunchen today or yesterday and had this to
report:
"I have Speak with Tele Muenchen and there are not needet the 3rd Season to
Buy for German TV !! And there will also Cancel Forever Knight !! What wi
will do ?????
<Sniff> !!"
Yep.. he's really a German, if you hadn't figured that out :)  Anyway, so did
TeleMunchen not know then?  Maybe it wasn't TM at all that kept it going?
 Maybe we lost something in the translation <g>?

Oh, and he wants 3rd season on tape.. if anyone has them all that would be
cool... I don't have MBIAV (which will rerun again soon) but I also don't
have Trophy Girl (WAIL!!) so I couldn't get them to him either.  I will ask
him if he has our VHS or if someone needs to switch them to PAL for him.

-Anne, non-veteran Merc.. guess that makes me green?  The Green Merc!!
amely@a.......
amely@j.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:40:05 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: Promises, promises...

O.K.  I know I haven't made good on my last vow (sheesh, it's
gonna be _work_!  gimme time! :-) but I'm out here being stupid <g>
and making another.

Celebrating and looking to the future, I just returned from the store
with a can of _Spam_(tm).  It is now sitting inspirationally (and
non-toxically <g>) on my monitor.

        *** _When_ we get a fourth season of FK, I will take
        *** it to the very next list party I attend and make
        *** a public spectacle of myself by eating the whole
        *** thing right there!

                        <***shudder***>

FK SOS:  One battle down... and a war to go!


Dianne
The Mad Digester :-)
Dianne la Mercenaire...   -*-   <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
*Web info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Daily digest/list-summary email loop:  moonlight@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:45:00 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: The resolution:  Bike for PAF

OK all, I've seen the re-post of the resolutions and I want to be clear
on this.  I really do want to do a bike ride from Philly to Toronto, but
I'm saving that one for a 4th season renewal.  I have resolved, however,
to organize some sort of bike ride to Toronto to celebrate the completion
of season 3 and to raise more money for the Pediatric AIDS Foundation.
You see, in addition to hitting up the listmembers again (pledges now
being accepted!) I can hit up the Philly area bike club & my friends &
family for donations.  Sooo....

Michelle Mark & Don Durham are also cyclists, apparently.  Let's get
together and organize something!  I know it seems cold right now
(particularly up in Ontario), but I think it would be nice to do something
in the next couple of months while it's timely! (i.e., before they finish
shooting season 3 and maybe break down the sets and disperse the cast &
crew.)  We can also organize something larger this summer (e.g., following
Don's suggesting and joining the aptly named Hotter'n Hell Hundred in
Texas -- I get sweaty just thinking about a summer ride in Texas), but
keep in mind that by then any decisions about 4th season renewals will be
made & the whole timeliness thing goes out the window.

Maybe Lisa Ryder, who according to her bio is a cyclist, would lend her
support to our cause!  I'm writing her a fan letter today as a small part
of fulfilling my resolution (so far there isn't an official fan club to
join, but I have my checkbook ready!).

Now where's my button?  ;)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Allison Percy, Knightie                   percy91@w.......
    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight and the Pediatric AIDS Foundation!
  _`\<,_    Contact percy91@w....... to find out how to
 (*)/ (*)   pledge your support and/or join the ride!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:58:23 -0500
From:    jennifer delaine lackey <lackeyj@i.......>
Subject: Resolutions

Heh, heh. Very sneaky, Dianne. Posting your Perkolator story as a test
message - My admiration for you grows with every passing day. You are
truly a credit to our Mercenaries' Guild.

However, I'm afraid I have to call everyone's attention to this little
scheme. Ya'll, if you missed Dianne's little piece of penance, I've got a
copy and will forward it to anyone who would like to participate in
Dianne's humil - <cough> um, resolution.

Just because I've been lurking since I started teaching doesn't mean that
I'm not still capable of tossing a little mayhem around, now and then.

Your collective servant,

Jen
Mercenary with a song in her heart - for a price
lackeyj@i.......    "Just watching the dark" - Richard Thompson
   Any resemblance between graduate students and the living dead
                     is purely coincidental
******************************************************************

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:09:13 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: Ooops & OBFK...

Dianne Therese De Sha wrote:
>You know you've been an FKer too long <possible???<g> when...
>
>...you're heading home from that staff meeting and on the freeway
>you pass a big semi full of "Garlic, Fresh from Gilroy!" and all
>you can think about it what would happen if one of those crashed
>in downtown TO... <g>

There's something weirdly "Body Snatchers" about that...  87


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:10:20 -0500
From:    Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......>
Subject: vows

Die Deutschen haben unser Arshen geretten!!!! (or loosely translated- The
Germans have saved our asses!!!!

I really  hope we can get some *official* confirmation of this news- (ie:
season 3 will finish)  JP? Nigel? Fred?  You listening????

Because if it's true I'm in for a *long* bike ride along with Allison and any
other brave souls!

Does anyone with connections know when filming will continue and terminate
for season 3?   Feb? March?

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:12:23 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...

At 04:54 PM 1/4/96 -0600, you wrote:
 Susanne Clark!

  <tsk tsk>   Are you sure you're not a Cousin?  Sounds real Cousinly to me!

 <ducking and running back to California and fast as I can>

>>At 12:05 PM 1/3/96 -0600, Jennifer Mingee wrote:
>>
>>>I...uh...will learn the Texas A&M fight song... AND SING IT IN PUBLIC AT
>>>THE NEXT TEXAS AREA FK PARTY.
>>>Gag!!!
>>Linda wrote:
>>Oh, Jennifer, you would!  GAG.  GAG!  GAG!  GAG!  But if you can do it, so
>>can I.

           Susanne Clark wrote:

>Ladies:  All together now.  Goodbye to Texas University/So long to the
>Orange and the White/Good luck to dear old Texas Aggies/They are the ones
>that show the real old fight/The eyes of Texas are upon you...We'll get the
>other half later before the formal performance :).  And per MY vow, the
>aviation show viewings and playing of DOOM II and will commence immediately.
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......>  FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
                         --------------------
FOREVER KNIGHT has been cancelled. Please help save it by writing:
Tristar/Columbia Pictures TV, 00000 Xxxxxxxxxx Xxxx, Xxxxxx Xxxx, XX 00000
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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:27:53 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Imho: The Good Fight

        The attached is a string of personal opinions.  It seems to use
the word "we" a lot, so I want to say that I know I only speak for
myself, and I hope that I don't offend anyone too deeply by saying "we."


On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, MS ANNE P PINZOW wrote:

>
> Dear List,
> We have to look at the
> big picture.  We have to focus on the way things are done in the board
> rooms of Madison Avenue

        That is exactly what the SOS project has done.  We have done it
from the consumer, rather than executive, side, however, because we are
the consumers.

>
> Among the more than 800 people on this list and the millions of people
> who watch "our" type of shows there have to be a few lawyers,
> mathematicians, accountants and budding advertising and network
> executives who want to change the world for the better and make a few
> million dollars doing it.

        Everyone fantasizes about doing good and getting rich
simultaneously.  It even occasionally happens.  The business project you
suggest, revamping the ratings system, might be doable.  It doesn't call
to my heart, however.  I'm a labor lawyer who does appellate litigation of
occupational safety and health issues on the worker side, and that *does*
call to my heart and it keeps the heat on in my house.


> Yes, this world is becoming more and more hostile to the educated,

        Not nearly as hostile as it is to the uneducated.  Have a look at
the unemployment statistics for people without college degrees.


> So, here it is, plain out.  Why don't you really make some money and
> figure out a whole new way of rating television shows that would be
> more reflective of what really is going on.

        If that's what calls to your heart, do it.

> Why don't you use your
> talents to show the world that fiction is more important than war, that
> fantasy drives the stuff on which the world is built?

        Based on my experience as a relic of the anti-Vietnam War
movement, and on twenty years of legal practice, and writing and
publishing poetry in a country where poetry is not much read, I
think you can't really show "the world" anything it doesn't want to see.

        That said, in my view, you're absolutely right -- in fact, there's
a poem in my book about the ad for Star Trek VI, "The Battle for Peace Has
Begun"-- that says "don't call that my > war <."  I believe in the power
of fiction, and of metaphor, to alter the universe.  But one can't, all of
us on this list all put together can't, "show the world."  We have to go
out, and do, and it's a daily deal.

        Look at the power of this metaphor we all love.  The show we're
working on keeping alive uses the metaphor of a mass-murdering vampire for
the struggle inside each human being to get to his or her value.  I see
myself in Nick just as I did in Mr. Spock long ago.  It's something as
simple as wanting to get life right, and being clueless about it.  In my
reading of each of those characters, there are plenty of reasons and more
than enough pain inside for each of them to just quit and suicide. And
instead they each show up and do their jobs and add what they can to the
good of existence every day.

> Can you imagine what
> would happen if the governments of the world one day woke up and
> realized that they each could accomplish their goals if they followed
> the tactics of the "Friends of Forever Knight?"

        What do you imagine to be the goals of governments?  Countries
are rather more like Lacroix than like Nick.  Some are like Vachon, a few
are like Screed.

> Don't waste time fighting the same battle over and over again because
> eventually Forever Knight will be cancelled.

        I hope the above explains why I think this fight is The Good
Fight.  To quote the listowner, Jaye the Red, "pardon me if I continue
to crusade."

Trying to build something good, you should excuse the expression, brick
by brick.

Apache

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